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Dear friends,

 

All astrologers know that Ascendant ot Lagna  is connected  to the Sun and the

Nakshatra to the Moon.  It is clearly written in the Sanskrit verse in the

Ramayana  regarding the birth of Bharata as " Mina Lagne " , which means the Lagna

or Ascendent at the time of Bharata's birth was Mina or Pisces and the Moon was

in Pushya

 

 

Due to utter ignorance of astrology Shri Krishen had quoted the following wrong

statement from the website of Robert Briggs, who is  also ignorant of the

nuances of astrology. Only an person ignorant in astrology will go by this

wrtong translation.  Giving the website in very big font has no meaning.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:

 

Krishen <jyotirved

[VRI] [ind-Arch] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

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Ramayana: Bala-kanda

CHAPTER 18

Birth of Rama, Bharata, Lakshmana and Shatrughna

When the horse sacrifice and the sacrifice for procuring a son were concluded,

the immortal demigods took their share of the offerings and departed as they had

come. Having completed the period of consecration, accompanied by his wives,

King Dasharatha entered the city with his servants and soldiers. Having been

appropriately honored by the king, the monarchs of the world were satisfied and,

offering respects to the great sage Rishyashringa, returned to their own lands.

Upon leaving the city of Ayodhya to return to their own homes, the soldiers of

the glorious kings, being overwhelmed with joy, shone brightly. When the kings

had departed, King Dasharatha again entered his capital with the topmost

brahmanas walking before him. Being properly honored and followed by the wise

king and his entourage, Rishyashringa departed with his wife Shanta. Sending

them all away in this manner and completely achieving his desired goal, the king

happily resided in Ayodhya

while thinking about the birth of his sons.

After the sacrifice had been completed, one year elapsed. Then in the twelfth

month called Caitra (April), on the ninth day, when the asterism Punarvasu was

in the ascendant, the five planets—Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus—were

exalted, and Jupiter and the Moon were in the sign of Cancer, the Lord of the

universe who is worshiped in all the worlds appeared from the womb of Kausalya

as Rama, possessing divine marks. Her son was manifested from the half portion

of the rice pudding given by Lord Vishnu. He was the most fortunate son of the

Ikshvaku Dynasty. His eyes were reddish, His arms strong, His lips red and His

voice like the sound of a drum. Kausalya shone with the immeasurable splendor of

her son, like Aditi with her son Indra, the lord of the gods who carries a

thunderbolt in his hand. To Kaikeyi was born a son of true prowess named

Bharata. Being produced from the quarter portion of the rice pudding, he was

endowed with all the

transcendental qualities of Lord Vishnu Himself. Then, Sumitra gave birth to

two sons—Lakshmana and Shatrughna. They were valorous, expert in all weaponry

and endowed with one eighth of the qualities of Lord Vishnu. Bharata was born

when the constellation Pushya was in the ascendant and the Sun was in Pisces.

The two sons of Sumitra were born when the constellation ashlesha was in the

ascendant and the sun was in Cancer. The four great-souled- sons of the king

were born separately. They were endowed with all good qualities, and resembled

one another. In splendor they were equal to the four stars of the constellation

Bhadrapada.

vedic_research_ institute, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Jai Shri Ram,

>

> When Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya at the noon-time there were places on the

earth at some longitude where the Sun was rising. I already told that Ascendent

is also called the " Rising Sun " . I wrote the the phrase " Rising Sun " so that one

who knows the western astrology will be able to appreciate that Lagna is nothing

but the " Rising Sun " , which they use. Shri Ramji was born in Ayodhya at noon

time and the Sun was rising at that time on some places (with particular

longitude on the earth) in the Karkata rashi and thus the Lagna of Shri Ramji is

Karkata. As these things are beyond the comprehension of Shri Kaul he should

leave these things alone. These are for the people who know astrology. Now,

friends, you can well understand why Shri kaul hates astrology. he could not

master even the " abc " of astrology.

>

> Bharata was born in Mina lagna as stated in that verse and as I have shown he

was born after 14 hours as there are 7 rashis between Karakata and Mina. But

with zero knowledge oif astrology Shri Kaul will not understand that.

>

> It is real Kaliyuga as the People like Shri Kaulji, who does not understand

astrologucal data, are dabbling at it to discredit the Ramayana, Even if the

Balakanda has been interpolated it has been done by a great rishi of the stature

of Valmiki otherwise the people would not have allowed it stay amalgamated with

the other middle kandas of the Ramayana for centuries. Only a man with common

sense can understand this.

>

> Jai Shri Ram

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 9/26/09, jyotirved jyotirved@.. . wrote:

>

> jyotirved jyotirved@.. .

> [ind-Arch] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

> indiaarchaeology

> Saturday, September 26, 2009, 6:44 AM

 

>

>

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> jyotirved

> @ grups. com

> Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:08 PM

> Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> Dear friends,

> Jai Shri Ram,

> Shri Bhattacharjya has said, " Now you can see for yourself that the original

> Sanskrit verse says that Bharata was born in Pushya nakshatra (ie. the Moon

was

> in the Pushya nakshatra) and the

> lagna (or the Ascendent also

> called the rising Sun)  was in Mina (Pisces), ie. the Sun rose on that

> day in Mina........ .. "

>

> If Shri Bhattacfharjya, being himself a jyotishi--- apraoksya as well as

> parokshya--- says, " the sun rose on that day in Mina " it naturally means that

> Bharata was born with the sun in Mina!  The sun of Shri Ram, as per the

> same Bhattacharjya- aparokshya as well as parokshya jyotishi---was in

> Mesha!  Obviously, Bharata was either younger than Shri Ram by at least

> eleven months or elder than Him at least by one day--since the sun does not

move

> backwards like Rahu, from Mesha to Mina--but from Mina to Mesha!  Or maybe

> Bhattacharjya Sun does move even backwards, since if Bhattacharjya Ram can be

> born in impossible astronomical combinations, when there were no Mesha etc.

> rashis around in the whole world, what power can prevent the

> Bhattacharjya sun to go retrograde!  After all, " Vedic astrologers "

> are more omnipotent than even Parabrahma, since they can " create " and

" destroy "

> even divine incarnations whenever it pleases them!

> Then again, if the sun of the sons of Sumitra was " kuleere abyudite ravav " ,

> why is Shri Bhattacharjya so adamant that it could not mean that the sun of

> Shatrugana and Lakshama was in karkata! 

> It is surprising that on the one hand Shri Bhattacharjya has himself admitted

> that the Balakanda and Uttarakanda of the Ramayana, which contain

> astrological details of the charts of Shri Ram and his

> siblings, are concoctions by someone other than than Valmiki, 

> since that " adulterator " has said that Shri Ram ruled for eleven

> thousand years, which does not gell with the views of " Vedic astrologers " ,

> but the same Shri Bhattacharjya jyotishi is fighting tooth and nail to

> prove those very concoctions by some good for nothng jyotishi to be

> correct, just because they contain some impossible astronomical

> combinatoins!

> Kaliyuga, after all!

> Jai Shri Ram

> A K Kaul

> With regards,

> A K Kaul

>

> >

> > --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya

> sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

> > ,

> Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

> > 

> Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > Re: Dating of

> Ramayana Period

> > USBrahmins@gro ups.com

> > Cc:

> WAVES-Vedic

> > Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:40

> PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear

> friends,

> >  

> > Further to my mail I wish to bring to your

> notice that my friend Shri Kaulji has raised doubt about

> Bharata's birth on the day following the day of Lord Rama's birth.and he

> quoted  a translation of the Ramayana verse 1-18-15. That translation,

> which he says he took from the Gita press edition of the Valmiki

> Ramayana, is patently wrong as you can see for yourself, if you look at the

> original verse, which I am giving below for your ready reference. Shri

> Kaulji just copied the wrong translation from that book,

> without caring to check whether the translation was correct or

> not. 

> >  

> > The wrong translation was

> >

>  

> > " Bharata of cheerful mind was born when the constellation Pushya

> was in the ascendent and the Sun had entered the sign of Pisces, while the

twin

> sons of Sumitra wereborn when the constellation Ashlesha was in ascendent and

> theSun hasreached the meridian touching the Zodiacal sign of karkata ie.

> cancer.

> >  

> > The relevant original verse is as follows :

>

> >  

> > puShye jaataH tu bharato mIna lagne prasanna dhIH

> |

> > saarpe jaatau tu saumitrI kuLIre abhyudite ravau ||

> 1-18-15 

> >  

> > Now you can see for yourself that the

> original Sanskrit verse says that Bharata was born in Pushya nakshatra (ie.

the

> Moon was in the Pushya nakshatra) and the lagna (or the Ascendent also

> called the rising Sun)  was in Mina (Pisces), ie. the Sun rose on that

> day in Mina. As Lord Rama was born in Punarvasu nakshatra and his Lagna was

> Karkata (cancer) it took 14 hours (+) for the Lagna to be in Mina

> ie. for the Sun to rise in Mina (Pisces) when Bharata was born and by

> that time the Moon also had reached the Pushya nakshatra. The twin Lakshmana

and

> Shatrughna were born in the Ashlesha nakshatra (the Nakshatra ruled by sarpa)

> when the Sun rose in the (next) morning.

> >  

> > This is

> so because the Lagna remains in one sign only for two hours and

> thus in the geocentric model it takes 7 X 2 = 14 hours for the Sun to traverse

> the

> 7 intermediate           

> signs between Cancer  and Pisces,  which are : Leo

> (Simha). Virgo (Kanya), Libra (Tula), Scorpio (Vrischik) , Dhanu

(Saggittarius) ,

> Makar (Capricorn) and Kumbha (Aquarius). 

> >  

> > I

> hope Shri Kaulji will take proper care in futuere to check such wrong

> translations by referring to the original sanskrit verse.

> >  

> >

> I wish to bring to your notice another important point about the dating of

> Ramayana by Dr. P.V.Vartak. He took the precessional data from the five

> middle kandas of Ramayana to show that Lord Rama was born around 7300 BCE. 

> So, irrespective of whether the Bala kanda and the Uttara kanda are

interpolated

> or not, one need not have any apprehension about the date of Lord Rama in the

> 74th century BCE.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  

> > Sunil

> K. Bhattacharjya

> >

> >  

> >

> >

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Dear friends,

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

<All astrologers know that Ascendant ot Lagna is connected to

the Sun and the Nakshatra to the Moon>

 

Yet another distortion of the meaning of the interpolations in the VR

and AR The jyotishis who made those interpolations in the VR and the AR

must have been at least aware that lagna is lagna and surya is surya!

One cannot be confused with the other! Jyotisha expert Bhattacharjya

does not even know that the duration of a rashi vis-à-vis lagna is

not more than a couple of hours on an average but the sun stays in a

rashi for a month

 

And if you ask Shri Bhattacharjya to quote any jyotsha shastra in

support of his argument that lagna is Surya, he will ask you to go

through all the jyotisha shastras instead yourself! That is the way he

keeps on confusing the common man, so that " Vedic astrologers " like Shri

Bhattacharjya continue to subjugate divinities like Shri Ram and Shri

Krishen to their jyotisha pranks, for their selfish motives, even if the

Rishis like Valmiki or Vedavyasa never intended it that way!

 

This is what Shri Bhattacharjya had said in his original post, " I

already told that Ascendent is also called the " Rising Sun " . I wrote the

the phrase " Rising Sun " so that one who knows the western astrology will

be able to appreciate that Lagna is nothing but the " Rising Sun " ,

 

Shri Bhattqcharjya does not even know that lagna at the time of sunrise,

what he calls rising sun, is always the same sign in which the sun is

then! Thus unless the sun was in Mina Rashi, the lagna at the time of

sunrise on the day of Bharata's birth could never be Mina! Thus

Bhattacharjya Jyotishi is proving himself what he is trying to disprove,

that the good for nothing jyotishi iinterpolator in the VR had goofed

and said tht Bharata's sun was in Mina!

 

Similarly, if the VR says that the sons of Sumitra were born " Kuleer

abyudite Ravav " , Shri Bhattacharjya, " Vedic astrologer " as

he is, wants everybody else to believe that Valmiki and Vyasa were

ignorant to such an extent that instead of saying " karka-lagne tu

jataav-ubhav " he would have said " kukleere abyuditeravav " .

In this case also, as Bhattacharjya Jyotishi wants us to believe that

the sons of Sumitra were born at karka Lagna at the time of sunrise,

that itself means that they were born when the sun was in karata Rashi!

 

<Due to utter ignorance of astrology Shri Krishen had quoted the

following wrong statement from the website of Robert Briggs, who is also

ignorant of the nuances of astrology.>

 

Robert Briggs has done the translation with the help of Indian pundits,

and he has made it clear in his introductory page. Thus Indian pandits

also are ignorant of everything according to Bhattachajya jyotishi!

 

Surprisingly, Gita Press editions, both Hindi and English editions also

carry a similar translation of the relevant shlokas as Robert Briggs!

Even Griffith has done a similar translation! Thus according to Shri

Bhattacharjya, the Sanskrit scholars at Gita Press , actually all over

India as per Shri Bhattacharjya, are very bad scholars as compared to

Bhattacharjya Jyotishi, since he is the only one who is translating

every shloka the way he wants to!

 

We must definnitely fathom as to what Shri Bhattacharjya really wants to

achieve by all these misinterpretations and bringing to disrepute all

the Sanskrit scholars of India!

 

< Giving the website in very big font has no meaning.>

 

Repeating a lie hundreds of times does have a meaning---to confuse the

general public---- and that is what Jyotishi Bhattacharjya is doing!

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

A K Kaul

 

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> All astrologers know that Ascendant ot Lagna is connected to

the Sun and the Nakshatra to the Moon. It is clearly written in the

Sanskrit verse in the Ramayana regarding the birth of Bharata as

" Mina Lagne " , which means the Lagna or Ascendent at the time of

Bharata's birth was Mina or Pisces and the Moon was in Pushya

>

>

> Due to utter ignorance of astrology Shri Krishen had quoted the

following wrong statement from the website of Robert Briggs, who isÂ

also ignorant of the nuances of astrology. Only an person ignorant in

astrology will go by this wrtong translation. Giving the website in

very big font has no meaning.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, Krishen jyotirved wrote:

>

> Krishen jyotirved

> [VRI] [ind-Arch] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

> vedic_research_institute

> Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:25 AM

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> http://ramayana. tigercoder. com/index. php

> Ramayana: Bala-kanda

> CHAPTER 18

> Birth of Rama, Bharata, Lakshmana and Shatrughna

> When the horse sacrifice and the sacrifice for procuring a son were

concluded, the immortal demigods took their share of the offerings and

departed as they had come. Having completed the period of consecration,

accompanied by his wives, King Dasharatha entered the city with his

servants and soldiers. Having been appropriately honored by the king,

the monarchs of the world were satisfied and, offering respects to the

great sage Rishyashringa, returned to their own lands. Upon leaving the

city of Ayodhya to return to their own homes, the soldiers of the

glorious kings, being overwhelmed with joy, shone brightly. When the

kings had departed, King Dasharatha again entered his capital with the

topmost brahmanas walking before him. Being properly honored and

followed by the wise king and his entourage, Rishyashringa departed with

his wife Shanta. Sending them all away in this manner and completely

achieving his desired goal, the king happily resided in Ayodhya

> while thinking about the birth of his sons.

> After the sacrifice had been completed, one year elapsed. Then in the

twelfth month called Caitra (April), on the ninth day, when the asterism

Punarvasu was in the ascendant, the five planets†" Sun, Mars,

Saturn, Jupiter and Venus†" were exalted, and Jupiter and the Moon

were in the sign of Cancer, the Lord of the universe who is worshiped in

all the worlds appeared from the womb of Kausalya as Rama, possessing

divine marks. Her son was manifested from the half portion of the rice

pudding given by Lord Vishnu. He was the most fortunate son of the

Ikshvaku Dynasty. His eyes were reddish, His arms strong, His lips red

and His voice like the sound of a drum. Kausalya shone with the

immeasurable splendor of her son, like Aditi with her son Indra, the

lord of the gods who carries a thunderbolt in his hand. To Kaikeyi was

born a son of true prowess named Bharata. Being produced from the

quarter portion of the rice pudding, he was endowed with all the

> transcendental qualities of Lord Vishnu Himself. Then, Sumitra gave

birth to two sons†" Lakshmana and Shatrughna. They were valorous,

expert in all weaponry and endowed with one eighth of the qualities of

Lord Vishnu. Bharata was born when the constellation Pushya was in the

ascendant and the Sun was in Pisces. The two sons of Sumitra were born

when the constellation ashlesha was in the ascendant and the sun was in

Cancer. The four great-souled- sons of the king were born separately.

They were endowed with all good qualities, and resembled one another. In

splendor they were equal to the four stars of the constellation

Bhadrapada.

> vedic_research_ institute, Sunil

Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Jai Shri Ram,

> >

> > When Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya at the noon-time there were places

on the earth at some longitude where the Sun was rising. I already told

that Ascendent is also called the " Rising Sun " . I wrote the the phrase

" Rising Sun " so that one who knows the western astrology will be able to

appreciate that Lagna is nothing but the " Rising Sun " , which they use.

Shri Ramji was born in Ayodhya at noon time and the Sun was rising at

that time on some places (with particular longitude on the earth) in the

Karkata rashi and thus the Lagna of Shri Ramji is Karkata. As these

things are beyond the comprehension of Shri Kaul he should leave these

things alone. These are for the people who know astrology. Now, friends,

you can well understand why Shri kaul hates astrology. he could not

master even the " abc " of astrology.

> >

> > Bharata was born in Mina lagna as stated in that verse and as I have

shown he was born after 14 hours as there are 7 rashis between Karakata

and Mina. But with zero knowledge oif astrology Shri Kaul will not

understand that.

> >

> > It is real Kaliyuga as the People like Shri Kaulji, who does not

understand astrologucal data, are dabbling at it to discredit the

Ramayana, Even if the Balakanda has been interpolated it has been done

by a great rishi of the stature of Valmiki otherwise the people would

not have allowed it stay amalgamated with the other middle kandas of the

Ramayana for centuries. Only a man with common sense can understand

this.

> >

> > Jai Shri Ram

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 9/26/09, jyotirved jyotirved@ . wrote:

> >

> > jyotirved jyotirved@ .

> > [ind-Arch] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

> > indiaarchaeology

> > Saturday, September 26, 2009, 6:44 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > jyotirved

> > @ grups. com

> > Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:08 PM

> > Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear friends,

> > Jai Shri Ram,

> > Shri Bhattacharjya has said, " Now you can see for yourself that the

original

> > Sanskrit verse says that Bharata was born in Pushya nakshatra (ie.

the Moon was

> > in the Pushya nakshatra) and the

> > lagna (or the Ascendent also

> > called the rising Sun)  was in Mina (Pisces), ie. the Sun

rose on that

> > day in Mina........ .. "

> >

> > If Shri Bhattacfharjya, being himself a jyotishi--- apraoksya as

well as

> > parokshya--- says, " the sun rose on that day in Mina " it naturally

means that

> > Bharata was born with the sun in Mina! The sun of Shri Ram, as

per the

> > same Bhattacharjya-Â aparokshya as well as parokshya

jyotishi---was in

> > Mesha! Obviously, Bharata was either younger than Shri Ram by

at least

> > eleven months or elder than Him at least by one day--since the sun

does not move

> > backwards like Rahu, from Mesha to Mina--but from Mina to Mesha!Â

Or maybe

> > Bhattacharjya Sun does move even backwards, since if Bhattacharjya

Ram can be

> > born in impossible astronomical combinations, when there were no

Mesha etc.

> > rashis around in the whole world, what power can preventÂ

the

> > Bhattacharjya sun to go retrograde! After all, " Vedic

astrologers "

> > are more omnipotent than even Parabrahma, since they can " create "

and " destroy "

> > even divine incarnations whenever it pleases them!

> > Then again, if the sun of the sons of Sumitra was " kuleere abyudite

ravav " ,

> > why is Shri Bhattacharjya so adamant that it could not mean that the

sun of

> > Shatrugana and Lakshama was in karkata!Â

> > It is surprising that on the one hand Shri Bhattacharjya has himself

admitted

> > that the Balakanda and Uttarakanda of the Ramayana, which

contain

> > astrological details of the charts of Shri Ram and his

> > siblings, are concoctions by someone other than than

Valmiki,Â

> > since that " adulterator " has said that Shri Ram ruled for

eleven

> > thousand years, which does not gell with the views of " Vedic

astrologers " ,

> > but the same Shri Bhattacharjya jyotishi is fighting tooth

and nail to

> > prove those very concoctions by some good for nothng jyotishi to

be

> > correct, just because they contain some impossible astronomical

> > combinatoins!

> > Kaliyuga, after all!

> > Jai Shri Ram

> > A K Kaul

> > With regards,

> > A K Kaul

> >

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya

> > sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

> > > ,

> > Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

> > >Â

> > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya

> > > Re: Dating of

> > Ramayana Period

> > > USBrahmins@gro ups.com

> > > Cc:

> > WAVES-Vedic

> > > Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:40

> > PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear

> > friends,

> > > Â

> > > Further to my mail I wish to bring to your

> > notice that my friend Shri Kaulji has raised doubt about

> > Bharata's birth on the day following the day of Lord Rama's

birth.and he

> > quoted a translation of the Ramayana verse 1-18-15. That

translation,

> > which he says he took from the Gita press edition of the

Valmiki

> > Ramayana, is patently wrong as you can see for yourself, if you

look at the

> > original verse, which I am giving below for your ready

reference. Shri

> > Kaulji just copied the wrong translation from that book,

> > without caring to check whether the translation was correct or

> > not.Â

> > > Â

> > > The wrong translation was

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> > > " Bharata of cheerful mind was born when the constellation Pushya

> > was in the ascendent and the Sun had entered the sign of Pisces,

while the twin

> > sons of Sumitra wereborn when the constellation Ashlesha was in

ascendent and

> > theSun hasreached the meridian touching the Zodiacal sign of karkata

ie.

> > cancer.

> > > Â

> > > The relevant original verse is as follows :

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> > > puShye jaataH tu bharato mIna lagne prasanna dhIH

> > |

> > > saarpe jaatau tu saumitrI kuLIre abhyudite ravau ||

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> > > Â

> > > Now you can see for yourself that the

> > original Sanskrit verse says that Bharata was born in Pushya

nakshatra (ie. the

> > Moon was in the Pushya nakshatra) and the lagna (or the

Ascendent also

> > called the rising Sun)  was in Mina (Pisces), ie. the Sun

rose on that

> > day in Mina. As Lord Rama was born in Punarvasu nakshatra and his

Lagna was

> > Karkata (cancer) it took 14 hours (+) for the Lagna to

be in Mina

> > ie. for the Sun to rise in Mina (Pisces) when Bharata was bornÂ

and by

> > that time the Moon also had reached the Pushya nakshatra. The twin

Lakshmana and

> > Shatrughna were born in the Ashlesha nakshatra (the Nakshatra ruled

by sarpa)

> > when the Sun rose in the (next)Â morning.

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> > > This is

> > so because the Lagna remains in one sign only for two

hours and

> > thus in the geocentric model it takes 7 X 2 = 14 hours for the Sun

to traverse

> > the

> > 7 intermediate         Â

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> > signs between Cancer  and Pisces,  which are

:Â Leo

> > (Simha). Virgo (Kanya), Libra (Tula), Scorpio (Vrischik) , Dhanu

(Saggittarius) ,

> > Makar (Capricorn)Â and Kumbha (Aquarius).Â

> > > Â

> > > I

> > hope Shri Kaulji will take proper care in futuere to checkÂ

such wrong

> > translations by referring to the original sanskrit verse.

> > > Â

> > >

> > I wish to bring to your notice another important point about the

dating of

> > Ramayana by Dr. P.V.Vartak. He took the precessional data from

the five

> > middle kandas of Ramayana to show that Lord Rama was born around

7300 BCE.Â

> > So, irrespective of whether the Bala kanda and the Uttara kanda are

interpolated

> > or not, one need not have any apprehension about the date of Lord

Rama in the

> > 74th century BCE.

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> > > Regards,

> > > Â

> > > Sunil

> > K. Bhattacharjya

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