Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra

September 8, 2009

Namaste Sanjay and friends,

In your book " Brihat Nakshatra " , you said regarding Ramakrishna Paramhamsa's

chart:

" In all my years of study and tens of thousands of charts, I have never come

across anything as close to this chart which represents a perfect incarnation of

Lord Shiva. "

Then you went on to talk about the " specific " form of " Shiva " shown by the

chart.

* * *

However, this is inconsistent with what Ramakrishna himself revealed and

religious authorities at his time opined.

When Ramakrishna was on death bed with cancer, Narendra (Swami Vivekananda) once

thought to himself, " I will accept his divinity if he declares his divinity

*now*, inspite of this sickness and suffering. " As if he detected the thought,

Ramakrishna said to Narendra, " you still have doubts? He who was Rama and

Krishna before is in this body now. And I do not mean it in your vedantic

sense! "

By explicitly saying that he did not mean it in the vedantic sense and referring

to " He who was Rama and Krishna before " , he clearly revealed that he was an

incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ramakrishna never spoke a lie and valued

truthfulness highly. The words of the realized man in question himself must be

more reliable than questionable and unreliable astrological principles.

Moreover, a couple of great religious authorities of the time studied

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in his younger days when he was being trained by

Bhairavi Brahmani and saw all behavioral signs and physical marks that confirmed

to them that he was an incarnation of Vishnu. They declared him to be an

incarnation of Vishnu.

Given these two facts, your conclusion cannot be correct.

Vivekananda was inherently a jnaani. He rejected Maayaa and even called

Ramakrishna's visions of various deities as hallucinations and plays of the

mind. He only accepted the formless. Ramakrishna slowly created in him respect

and love for Vishnu Maayaa that governs duality. Well, it takes one with

purified Vishnu tattva to create respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa in one with

raw Shiva tattva. Moreover, it was at the Shiva temple at Amarnath in Himalayas

that Vivekananda finally realized his true nature.

* * *

As Jupiter and Mercury are the natural guru and sishya and Jupiter is supposed

to show Sadashiva and Mercury is supposed to show Vishnu, one may be tempted to

theorize that Shiva is guru and Vishnu is sishya and attribute Shiva tattva to

guru in a guru-sishya pair. However, that is no logic. Jupiter is not just

Sadashiva, he is Jagannath too. Some of Vishnu's avataras have been the greatest

gurus. Krishna is the ultimate jagadguru for his teaching of Bhagavad Gita, the

greatest spiritual teaching ever.

Also, take the example of another illustrious guru-sishya pair from a few

millennia back - Govinda Bhagavatpada and Aadi Shankara. Govinda Bhagavatpada

was a highly learned and elevated master. He too had several great sishyas. His

main sishya Aadi Shankara is considered an incarnation of Lord Shiva and Govinda

Bhagavatpada is considered to be of Vishnu tattwa.

If one says that Govinda Bhagavatpada must have had an amsha of Shiva (Jupiter)

because he was the guru and that Aadi Shankara must have had an amsha of Vishnu

(Mercury) because he was the sishya, that would be no logic at all! Shiva

himself said that he would be born as Aadi Shankara.

Actually, given the parallels between the lives of Aadi Shankara and

Vivekananda, it is possible that Vivekananda was a re-incarnation of Aadi

Shankara.

* * *

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Abhisheka Nakshatra Principle

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You said in the same book that abhisheka nakshatra's lord (as per Vimsottari

dasa lordship) being AK is the " first indication of a high level soul having

incarnated " . You use the charts of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and a

questionable chart of Lord Krishna to justify it.

However, there are many exampsles like Sarada Mata, Ramana Maharshi, Swami

Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada and Swami Sivananda, which do not

satisfy the criterion. All of them are definitely " high level souls having

incarnated " .

Moreover, it is questionable to have such an important formula based on

" vimsottari lordships " , which is just a star-planet mapping for one specific

dasa scheme among many, as taught by Parasara. Secondly, the space of Vimsottari

lord of abhisheka nakshtra contains nine planets, while the space of chara

karakas contains eight planets. A formula based on equating them is mixing up

two unequal sets. That is illogical. Moreover, this formula fails in many

examples and works in just two (third example is based on questionable data).

Thus, it sounds like a formula constructed based on an observation which was

made based on just 2-3 charts.

Any genuine formula should work in a far higher percentage of applicable charts.

* * *

I tried to find some reasonable and logical criterion based on abhisheka

nakshatra to find initial indications of a potential for liberation, that works

in all the charts I mentioned above. I was unsuccessful. Each formula works in

some and fails in some. The example charts I chose are all unquestionably very

high caliber spiritual people.

After my failure, I bowed to Maharshi Parasara after a daily Chandi homam and

prayed to him to kindly show me a criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra that

works in a higher percentage of applicable charts. The formula that was given to

me is this: " The abhisheka nakshatra - the 28th nakshatra - reckoned from chara

aatma kaaraka has aspect or vedha in sarvatobhadra chakra (SBC) from a planet

that is also associated with (a) the 12th house from chara aatma kaaraka in D-20

chart and (b) 5th or 9th house from lagna in rasi chart. If chara aatma kaaraka

is Rahu, counting of the 28th star in SBC as well as counting of the 12th house

in D-20 is in anti-zodiacal order. "

The D-20 is the chart of spiritual progress. The 12th house from AK in it shows

the liberation of individual soul as one progresses spiritually. Similarly, SBC

is the chakra in the nakshatra space and abhisheka (28th) nakshatra from AK in

it shows liberation of soul in the nakshatra space. Planet having an influence

on both the factors supports spiritual liberation. The 5th and 9th from lagna

show poorvapunya and bhagya. If the same planet influences all the three

factors, that planet can suggest liberation. The reverse counting from Rahu is

because Rahu goes in reverse. Even when defining argala, Parasara asked to

reckon argalas and virodha argalas based on houses from Rahu and Ketu in

anti-zodiacal order.

Thus, we are finding a planetary influence that brings poorvapunya and bhagya

(5th and 9th) to this specific existence (lagna) and promotes liberation (12th

house/28th star) of individual soul (AK) in the conscious mental plane (SBC) and

the plane of spiritual activity (D-20).

Please note that this formula does not use Vimsottari dasa lordships. It uses

nakshatra chakra (SBC) for nakshatras and D-20 for rasis.

* * *

When the formula came to me, I tried it on the charts of Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa, Sarada Mata, Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi, Swami

Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada, Swami Sivananda. It worked in all

the charts.

Sarada Mata's AK is Moon. He is in Uttara Phalguni. The 28th star from him is

Poorva Phalguni. It has vedha only from Mars. In D-20, Moon is in Ta and the

12th lord from him is Mars. In rasi, Mars is the 5th lord.

Ramakrishna's AK is Rahu. He is in Krittika. The 28th star from him counted

anti-zodiacally is Rohini. It has vedha in SBC only from Saturn. In D-20, Rahu

is in Cp and the 12th house counted anti-zodiacally is Aq. Saturn owns it. In

rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.

Vivekananda's AK is Sun. He is in Uttarashadha. The 28t star from him is

Poorvashadha. It has vedha in SBC only from Moon and Saturn. In D-20, Sun is in

Pi and Saturn is the 12th lord from him. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.

Ramana Maharashi's AK is Moon. He is in Punarvasu. The 28th star from him is

Ardra. It has vedha from Sun and Rahu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20,

Moon is in Aq and Jupiter and Rahu aspect Cp. In rasi, Jupiter occupies the 5th

house.

Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati's AK is Saturn. He is in Chitra. The 28th star

from him is Hasta. It has vedha from Rahu and Ketu and aspect from Jupiter in

SBC. In D-20, Saturn is in Cp and Jupiter owns the 12th while Rahu and Ketu

aspect it. In rasi, Jupiter owns 5th and occupies 9th.

Srila Prabhupada's AK is Rahu. He is in Dhanishtha. The 28th star from him is

Satabhishak. It has no vedha in SBC, but Sun aspects it. In D-20, Rahu is in Sg.

The 12th from him reckoned anti-zodiacally is Cp and Sun aspects it. In rasi,

Sun is the 9th lord.

Swami Sivananda's AK is Sun. He is in Poorva Phalguni. The 28th star from him is

Magha. It has vedha from Moon and Rahu in SBC and Saturn aspects it. In D-20,

Sun is in Pi. The 12th from him is Aq. Saturn and Rahu own it and Moon aspects

it. In rasi, Moon is lagna lord in 9th house.

* * *

Maharshis who overcame the concept of Time and space-time continuum when living

here in a body can bless us even after they leave earth. To those of you who do

any kind of homam daily or weekly and want to surrender to Parasara and get some

blessings from him, I suggest making 4 or 8 or 12 aahutis (oblations) of ghee at

the beginning of uttaraangam while saying one of the following:

daivavidbhyo varaM viGYaM shaktiputraM munIshvaraM

horaa shaastra pravaktaaraM paraasharaM namaamyahaM. svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM

na mama.

or

om pam paraasharaaya namaH svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama.

Best regards,

Narasimha

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September 9, 2009

Namaste Rajarshi,

(1) Of course not. This is just a conducive factor. It makes sense logically and

it seems to work in several charts in which you would expect it to apply. That's

all.

I have no view on (2) and (3). Obviously, I do not have all answers.

* * *

> Thanks for your research. Appreciate them a lot.

What I shared is the tip of the iceberg, just like the planetary special lagna

concepts that I illustrated using Ve7 as an example sometime back.

There are so many reference points in charts, so many houses and so many

nakshatras. If one applies oneself intelligently and tests using many examples,

one can arrive at so many formulas using what I gave as a template.

I will illustrate just one more principle. If the 6th house reckoned from AmK in

D-10 and the 10th star (karma nakshatra) reckoned from AmK in SBC have an

influence of the same planet and that planet is also associated with a trine

from GL in rasi chart, one rises to a position of power and influence in one's

work. We are basically looking for synergy between (a) the professional (D-10)

effort (6th) and (b) mental (SBC) activity (10th star) of the spirit of work in

one (AmK) and the blessings (trines) related to power and influence (GL).

Nehru's AmK is Rahu. From Ardra containing Rahu, the 10th star counted

anti-zodiacally is Satabhishak. In SBC, it has vedha from Mercury and Venus. In

D-10, the 6th house from Li containing Rahu counted anti-zodiacally is Ta. Venus

owns it. In rasi chart, Venus is the lord of GL and joins the lord of the 5th

house from GL.

Indira Gandhi's AmK is Venus. From Poorvashadha containing Venus, the 10th star

is Aswini. In SBC, it has vedha from Mars and Jupiter. In D-10, the 6th house

from Cn containing Venus is Sg. Jupiter owns it. In rasi chart, Jupiter is the

9th lord from GL.

Rajiv Gandhi's AmK is Rahu. From Punarvasu containing Rahu, the 10th star

counted anti-zodiacally is Poorvabhadra. In SBC, it has vedha from nodes and

aspect from Mercury and Mars. In D-10, the 6th house from Pi containing Rahu

counted anti-zodiacally is Li. Mars and Mercury aspect it from Ta. In rasi

chart, Mervcury is the 9th lord from GL.

PV Narasimha Rao's AmK is Venus. From Krittika containing Venus, the 10th star

is Uttara Phalguni. In SBC, it has vedha from Mercury and aspect from Moon and

Mars. In D-10, the 6th house from Cp containing Venus is Ge owned by Mercury and

only Mercury aspects it. In rasi chart, Mercury is the dispositor of the 5th and

9th lords from GL and is with them, aspecting GL.

Ronald Reagan's AmK is Sun. From Dhanishtha containing Sun, the 10th star is

Mrigasira. In SBC, it has vedha from Mercury and aspect from Mars and Saturn. In

D-10, the 6th house from Ar containing Sun is Vi owned and occupied by Mercury

and only Mars aspects it from Pi. In rasi chart, Mercury and Mars are in GL and

Mars owns the 5th from GL.

George W Bush's AmK is Jupiter. From Chitra containing Jupiter, the 10th star is

Sravana. In SBC, it has vedha from none but aspected by Mercury, Jupiter and

Venus. In D-10, the 6th house from Cp containing Jupiter is Ge owned by Mercury

and aspected by Venus from Sg. In rasi chart, Mercury and Venus are in the 9th

house from GL.

* * *

Bottomline:

One may be able to unearth many ways to combine nakshatra chakra (SBC), various

divisional charts and rasi chart. What factor at the mental level (SBC), what

factor at the level of a specific environment in life (i.e. a divisional chart,

examples of various environments shown in various divisional charts are -

professional in D-10, parental in D-12, educational in D-24, spiritual in D-20,

financial in D-2 etc) and what factor at the physical level (rasi chart) need to

have a synergy, in order to produce a specific result?

* * *

Namaste Rajarshi and other young sadhakas-cum-Jyotishis,

I want to humbly say a word on " research " . Please ignore my 2 cents if this

makes no sense to you.

I was quite passionate about Jyotish research several years back and used to

spend a lot of time in research. I used to sleep at 3 am and get up at 6 am. I

used to spend long hours formulating principles and testing them out on charts,

changing JHora sometimes for it. After coming home from work, I used to spend as

much time on astrology study and research, as I used to spend on my main

profession during the day.

After spiritual transformation in recent years, I stopped spending that much

time. However, the productivity of my Jyotish research went up. Some ideas that

struck to my mind at the end of nice meditation sessions turned out to be good

and simply worked in several charts that I tried out later.

If you surrender to god and rishis, you will receive whatever knowledge you need

for your activities in this life. Have faith in god and rishis and surrender.

Also, it is important to approach Jyotish knowledge with the spirit of a

brahmana. Brahmana is one who cares about nothing other than knowledge and

liberation. Kshatriya is one who cares about power, authority and control over

others. Vaisya is one who cares about money. Do not look at your Jyotish

knowledge as a means to have some control or authority over people and do not

feel proud of your knowledge, like a kshatriya. Also, do not look at your

Jyotish knowledge as a means to get money and try to increase your gains, like a

vaishya. Be a true braahmana in the prusuit of Jyotish knowledge and surrender

to god and rishis. Sky is the limit for you then.

Of course, it is also possible then that you lose interest in Jyotish completely

or partially and do not receive any or much Jyotish knowledge. But so be it. As

I said, you will receive " whatever knowledge *you need* " . You don't know what

you really need, but god does! Complete surrender means not asking for any

specific thing and accepting whatever comes one's way!

* * *

Reply to Mail 2 below:

I am replying publicly while keeping your anonymity.

2. Yes, a blue light from a Shiva linga entered his mother when she was pregnant

with him. She also had darshan of many celestial beings on a regular basis

during her pregnancy, which stopped after the delivery.

Actually, Vishnu told his father in the dream at Gaya that you refer to, that

*he himself* would come as a son.

There are different indications, but what Ramakrishna himself declared should be

the final word.

4. When I meditate deeply after homam or in general, I sometimes go into a nice

spiritual state. Though there was some desire to find some principle based on

abhisheka nakshatra *before* meditation started, it completely vanished from my

consciousness as meditation deepened and the regular self-awareness vanished

too. Then I was in a nice spiritual state where the logical mind and intuitive

mind were very very calm without much mental activity. When I was coming back to

a state of normal self-awareness from such a state, I just became aware of a

thought. It felt like it was someone's thought just flowing in the universe and

I happened to be on the same wavelength and was able to observe it.

I only said I prayed to Parasara and this formula was given to me. I did not say

who gave it to me, because I do not know. But I express my gratitude to

Parasara, as I had prayed to him before and then this thought came and moreover

this principle is far more logical and far more accurate than anything I was

able to synthesize using my rational and intuitive minds before. If one begged

the king for money and suddenly found a bag of gold coins thrown into one's

backyard by an unseen person, one will only thank the king. Especially if the

coins seem to be made of real gold..

5. I am glad you were thinking along those lines! It shows you have some really

good samskaras guiding your instincts. You can ask Agni to carry an oblation of

ghee to various deities and rishis, without a separate invocation. For example,

if your gotra is Goutama, you can offer an oblation in the fire while saying " om

gautamaaya svaahaa. gautamaayedam na mama " . Or, if you want to offer to Jupiter,

you can offer an oblation in the fire while saying " om bR^ihaspataye svaahaa.

bR^ihaspataya na mama " . You can do this after the main homam and before you

start the final offerings to Agni, Vaayu, Surya, Prajapati, Vishnu and Shiva.

If you want to specifically invoke, you can use the Ganesha invocation from

Krishna homam or Shiva homam manual as the template and follow that procedure.

Replace " oM gaM gaNapataye namaH " with " oM paM paraasharaaya namaH " or just " oM

paraasharaaya namaH " or the verse for Parasara below. Irresepctive of the exact

procedure you used, the keys to success are (a) the strength of belief that

Parasara is there in fire and (b) respect and surrender for him. Use whatever

procedure maximizes those aspects in you.

Best regards,

Narasimha

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sohamsa , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

>

> Namaste Narasimha,

>

> Very good work.

>

> I was trying this in some charts and most of them gave very accurate results.

>

> I have a few queries:

>

> 1) If both condition (a) and condition (b) get fulfilled, can we safely

conclude that this person will attain to the highest spiritual experience of

Moksha?

>

> 2) If only one condition is fulfilled, say the Vedha graha aspects the 12th

from Ak in D20, but is not connected to 5th and/or 9th in rasi, or vice versa,

can we conclude that the person is spiritual but may not reach the highest

realization?

>

> 3) In case of no Vedha graha, does it indicate that this person cannot attain

moksha in that life time?

>

> Thanks for your research. Appreciate them a lot.

>

> -Regards

> Rajarshi

>

> ------------------

>

> Mail 2:

>

> Dear Narasimha, namaste & pranaams

>

> *The nature of this email is necessarily private. Do not quote this email

> unless you feel some points/your reply to points would benefit a larger

> section of society. Thanks in advance.*

>

> 1. I am so excited at your directly received revelation from Maharishi

> Parasara! This indicates that vargas can be read as independent charts and

> gives some valuable pointers as to how connections between rasi and vargas

> can be synthesized. The tip of an iceberg is indicated here!

>

> 2. It is mentioned (I cannot cite the reference) that a blue light emanated

> out of the Shiva Linga when Sri Ramakrishna's mother went to the temple and

> the waves of the blue light passed into her. She felt as if she was pregnant

> immediately. At the same time, Sri Ramakrishna's father had a dream at Gaya

> that Vishnu would bless him with an illustrious progeny.

>

> 3. The statement of Sanjay cited by you below is at best an empirical

> statement. It does not give any criteria as to how the judgement was arrived

> at.

>

> 4. May I respectfully ask how you received the revelation?

>

> 5. Nowadays I am performing the Ganesha homam weekly. I had been toying with

> the idea of whether to invoke Maharishis Parasara and Jaimini in the homam,

> bow before them and seek their blessings for studying the jyotisa shastra.

> You indirectly answered the unspoken desire! How may I invoke Maharishi

> Jaimini in the homan?

>

> best regards

> <name deleted>

>

> --- On Tue, 8/9/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

>

> Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

> Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra

> sohamsa , vedic astrology ,

, sjcBoston ,

sjc-guru

> Tuesday, 8 September, 2009, 5:22 AM

>

> Namaste Sanjay and friends,

>

> In your book " Brihat Nakshatra " , you said regarding Ramakrishna Paramhamsa's

chart:

>

> " In all my years of study and tens of thousands of charts, I have never come

across anything as close to this chart which represents a perfect incarnation of

Lord Shiva. "

>

> Then you went on to talk about the " specific " form of " Shiva " shown by the

chart.

>

> * * *

>

> However, this is inconsistent with what Ramakrishna himself revealed and

religious authorities at his time opined.

>

> When Ramakrishna was on death bed with cancer, Narendra (Swami Vivekananda)

once thought to himself, " I will accept his divinity if he declares his divinity

*now*, inspite of this sickness and suffering. " As if he detected the thought,

Ramakrishna said to Narendra, " you still have doubts? He who was Rama and

Krishna before is in this body now. And I do not mean it in your vedantic

sense! "

>

> By explicitly saying that he did not mean it in the vedantic sense and

referring to " He who was Rama and Krishna before " , he clearly revealed that he

was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ramakrishna never spoke a lie and valued

truthfulness highly. The words of the realized man in question himself must be

more reliable than questionable and unreliable astrological principles.

>

> Moreover, a couple of great religious authorities of the time studied

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in his younger days when he was being trained by

Bhairavi Brahmani and saw all behavioral signs and physical marks that confirmed

to them that he was an incarnation of Vishnu. They declared him to be an

incarnation of Vishnu.

>

> Given these two facts, your conclusion cannot be correct.

>

> Vivekananda was inherently a jnaani. He rejected Maayaa and even called

Ramakrishna' s visions of various deities as hallucinations and plays of the

mind. He only accepted the formless. Ramakrishna slowly created in him respect

and love for Vishnu Maayaa that governs duality. Well, it takes one with

purified Vishnu tattva to create respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa in one with

raw Shiva tattva. Moreover, it was at the Shiva temple at Amarnath in Himalayas

that Vivekananda finally realized his true nature.

>

> * * *

>

> As Jupiter and Mercury are the natural guru and sishya and Jupiter is supposed

to show Sadashiva and Mercury is supposed to show Vishnu, one may be tempted to

theorize that Shiva is guru and Vishnu is sishya and attribute Shiva tattva to

guru in a guru-sishya pair. However, that is no logic. Jupiter is not just

Sadashiva, he is Jagannath too. Some of Vishnu's avataras have been the greatest

gurus. Krishna is the ultimate jagadguru for his teaching of Bhagavad Gita, the

greatest spiritual teaching ever.

>

> Also, take the example of another illustrious guru-sishya pair from a few

millennia back - Govinda Bhagavatpada and Aadi Shankara. Govinda Bhagavatpada

was a highly learned and elevated master. He too had several great sishyas. His

main sishya Aadi Shankara is considered an incarnation of Lord Shiva and Govinda

Bhagavatpada is considered to be of Vishnu tattwa.

>

> If one says that Govinda Bhagavatpada must have had an amsha of Shiva

(Jupiter) because he was the guru and that Aadi Shankara must have had an amsha

of Vishnu (Mercury) because he was the sishya, that would be no logic at all!

Shiva himself said that he would be born as Aadi Shankara.

>

> Actually, given the parallels between the lives of Aadi Shankara and

Vivekananda, it is possible that Vivekananda was a re-incarnation of Aadi

Shankara.

>

> * * *

>

> ------------ --------- --------- -

> Abhisheka Nakshatra Principle

> ------------ --------- --------- -

>

> You said in the same book that abhisheka nakshatra's lord (as per Vimsottari

dasa lordship) being AK is the " first indication of a high level soul having

incarnated " . You use the charts of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and a

questionable chart of Lord Krishna to justify it.

>

> However, there are many exampsles like Sarada Mata, Ramana Maharshi, Swami

Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada and Swami Sivananda, which do not

satisfy the criterion. All of them are definitely " high level souls having

incarnated " .

>

> Moreover, it is questionable to have such an important formula based on

" vimsottari lordships " , which is just a star-planet mapping for one specific

dasa scheme among many, as taught by Parasara. Secondly, the space of Vimsottari

lord of abhisheka nakshtra contains nine planets, while the space of chara

karakas contains eight planets. A formula based on equating them is mixing up

two unequal sets. That is illogical. Moreover, this formula fails in many

examples and works in just two (third example is based on questionable data).

Thus, it sounds like a formula constructed based on an observation which was

made based on just 2-3 charts.

>

> Any genuine formula should work in a far higher percentage of applicable

charts.

>

> * * *

>

> I tried to find some reasonable and logical criterion based on abhisheka

nakshatra to find initial indications of a potential for liberation, that works

in all the charts I mentioned above. I was unsuccessful. Each formula works in

some and fails in some. The example charts I chose are all unquestionably very

high caliber spiritual people.

>

> After my failure, I bowed to Maharshi Parasara after a daily Chandi homam and

prayed to him to kindly show me a criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra that

works in a higher percentage of applicable charts. The formula that was given to

me is this: " The abhisheka nakshatra - the 28th nakshatra - reckoned from chara

aatma kaaraka has aspect or vedha in sarvatobhadra chakra (SBC) from a planet

that is also associated with (a) the 12th house from chara aatma kaaraka in D-20

chart and (b) 5th or 9th house from lagna in rasi chart. If chara aatma kaaraka

is Rahu, counting of the 28th star in SBC as well as counting of the 12th house

in D-20 is in anti-zodiacal order. "

>

> The D-20 is the chart of spiritual progress. The 12th house from AK in it

shows the liberation of individual soul as one progresses spiritually.

Similarly, SBC is the chakra in the nakshatra space and abhisheka (28th)

nakshatra from AK in it shows liberation of soul in the nakshatra space. Planet

having an influence on both the factors supports spiritual liberation. The 5th

and 9th from lagna show poorvapunya and bhagya. If the same planet influences

all the three factors, that planet can suggest liberation. The reverse counting

from Rahu is because Rahu goes in reverse. Even when defining argala, Parasara

asked to reckon argalas and virodha argalas based on houses from Rahu and Ketu

in anti-zodiacal order.

>

> Thus, we are finding a planetary influence that brings poorvapunya and bhagya

(5th and 9th) to this specific existence (lagna) and promotes liberation (12th

house/28th star) of individual soul (AK) in the conscious mental plane (SBC) and

the plane of spiritual activity (D-20).

>

> Please note that this formula does not use Vimsottari dasa lordships. It uses

nakshatra chakra (SBC) for nakshatras and D-20 for rasis.

>

> * * *

>

> When the formula came to me, I tried it on the charts of Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa, Sarada Mata, Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi, Swami

Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada, Swami Sivananda. It worked in all

the charts.

>

> Sarada Mata's AK is Moon. He is in Uttara Phalguni. The 28th star from him is

Poorva Phalguni. It has vedha only from Mars. In D-20, Moon is in Ta and the

12th lord from him is Mars. In rasi, Mars is the 5th lord.

>

> Ramakrishna' s AK is Rahu. He is in Krittika. The 28th star from him counted

anti-zodiacally is Rohini. It has vedha in SBC only from Saturn. In D-20, Rahu

is in Cp and the 12th house counted anti-zodiacally is Aq. Saturn owns it. In

rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.

>

> Vivekananda' s AK is Sun. He is in Uttarashadha. The 28t star from him is

Poorvashadha. It has vedha in SBC only from Moon and Saturn. In D-20, Sun is in

Pi and Saturn is the 12th lord from him. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.

>

> Ramana Maharashi's AK is Moon. He is in Punarvasu. The 28th star from him is

Ardra. It has vedha from Sun and Rahu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20,

Moon is in Aq and Jupiter and Rahu aspect Cp. In rasi, Jupiter occupies the 5th

house.

>

> Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati's AK is Saturn. He is in Chitra. The 28th star

from him is Hasta. It has vedha from Rahu and Ketu and aspect from Jupiter in

SBC. In D-20, Saturn is in Cp and Jupiter owns the 12th while Rahu and Ketu

aspect it. In rasi, Jupiter owns 5th and occupies 9th.

>

> Srila Prabhupada's AK is Rahu. He is in Dhanishtha. The 28th star from him is

Satabhishak. It has no vedha in SBC, but Sun aspects it. In D-20, Rahu is in Sg.

The 12th from him reckoned anti-zodiacally is Cp and Sun aspects it. In rasi,

Sun is the 9th lord.

>

> Swami Sivananda's AK is Sun. He is in Poorva Phalguni. The 28th star from him

is Magha. It has vedha from Moon and Rahu in SBC and Saturn aspects it. In D-20,

Sun is in Pi. The 12th from him is Aq. Saturn and Rahu own it and Moon aspects

it. In rasi, Moon is lagna lord in 9th house.

>

> * * *

>

> Maharshis who overcame the concept of Time and space-time continuum when

living here in a body can bless us even after they leave earth. To those of you

who do any kind of homam daily or weekly and want to surrender to Parasara and

get some blessings from him, I suggest making 4 or 8 or 12 aahutis (oblations)

of ghee at the beginning of uttaraangam while saying one of the following:

>

> daivavidbhyo varaM viGYaM shaktiputraM munIshvaraM

> horaa shaastra pravaktaaraM paraasharaM namaamyahaM. svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM

na mama.

>

> or

>

> om pam paraasharaaya namaH svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

September 9, 2009

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Narasimha,and all,

To make the research even more credible.

It seems that it should be tried also on a number

non spiritual persons charts as well.

Hopefully the members of this group can try out your research on a number of charts , both of spiritual and more mundane peoples charts.

Narasimha are you saying when trying this to only use the Jagannath Ayanamsa?

thanks

Lakshmi

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14sohamsa Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:10:22 AMRe: Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra

Namaste Narasimha,

Very good work.

I was trying this in some charts and most of them gave very accurate results.

I have a few queries:

1) If both condition (a) and condition (b) get fulfilled, can we safely conclude that this person will attain to the highest spiritual experience of Moksha?

2) If only one condition is fulfilled, say the Vedha graha aspects the 12th from Ak in D20, but is not connected to 5th and/or 9th in rasi, or vice versa, can we conclude that the person is spiritual but may not reach the highest realization?

3) In case of no Vedha graha, does it indicate that this person cannot attain moksha in that life time?

Thanks for your research. Appreciate them a lot.

-Regards

Rajarshi

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 8/9/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatrasohamsa@ .com, vedic astrology, , sjcBoston@grou ps.com, sjc-guru@ s.comTuesday, 8 September, 2009, 5:22 AM

Namaste Sanjay and friends,In your book "Brihat Nakshatra", you said regarding Ramakrishna Paramhamsa's chart:"In all my years of study and tens of thousands of charts, I have never come across anything as close to this chart which represents a perfect incarnation of Lord Shiva."Then you went on to talk about the "specific" form of "Shiva" shown by the chart.* * *However, this is inconsistent with what Ramakrishna himself revealed and religious authorities at his time opined.When Ramakrishna was on death bed with cancer, Narendra (Swami Vivekananda) once thought to himself, "I will accept his divinity if he declares his divinity *now*, inspite of this sickness and suffering." As if he detected the thought, Ramakrishna said to Narendra, "you still have doubts? He who was Rama and Krishna before is in this body now. And I do not mean it in your vedantic sense!"By explicitly saying that he did not

mean it in the vedantic sense and referring to "He who was Rama and Krishna before", he clearly revealed that he was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ramakrishna never spoke a lie and valued truthfulness highly. The words of the realized man in question himself must be more reliable than questionable and unreliable astrological principles.Moreover, a couple of great religious authorities of the time studied Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in his younger days when he was being trained by Bhairavi Brahmani and saw all behavioral signs and physical marks that confirmed to them that he was an incarnation of Vishnu. They declared him to be an incarnation of Vishnu.Given these two facts, your conclusion cannot be correct.Vivekananda was inherently a jnaani. He rejected Maayaa and even called Ramakrishna' s visions of various deities as hallucinations and plays of the mind. He only accepted the formless. Ramakrishna slowly created in him respect

and love for Vishnu Maayaa that governs duality. Well, it takes one with purified Vishnu tattva to create respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa in one with raw Shiva tattva. Moreover, it was at the Shiva temple at Amarnath in Himalayas that Vivekananda finally realized his true nature.* * *As Jupiter and Mercury are the natural guru and sishya and Jupiter is supposed to show Sadashiva and Mercury is supposed to show Vishnu, one may be tempted to theorize that Shiva is guru and Vishnu is sishya and attribute Shiva tattva to guru in a guru-sishya pair. However, that is no logic. Jupiter is not just Sadashiva, he is Jagannath too. Some of Vishnu's avataras have been the greatest gurus. Krishna is the ultimate jagadguru for his teaching of Bhagavad Gita, the greatest spiritual teaching ever.Also, take the example of another illustrious guru-sishya pair from a few millennia back - Govinda Bhagavatpada and Aadi Shankara. Govinda

Bhagavatpada was a highly learned and elevated master. He too had several great sishyas. His main sishya Aadi Shankara is considered an incarnation of Lord Shiva and Govinda Bhagavatpada is considered to be of Vishnu tattwa.If one says that Govinda Bhagavatpada must have had an amsha of Shiva (Jupiter) because he was the guru and that Aadi Shankara must have had an amsha of Vishnu (Mercury) because he was the sishya, that would be no logic at all! Shiva himself said that he would be born as Aadi Shankara.Actually, given the parallels between the lives of Aadi Shankara and Vivekananda, it is possible that Vivekananda was a re-incarnation of Aadi Shankara.* * *------------ --------- --------- -Abhisheka Nakshatra Principle------------ --------- --------- -You said in the same book that abhisheka nakshatra's lord (as per Vimsottari dasa lordship) being AK is the "first indication of a high level soul having

incarnated". You use the charts of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and a questionable chart of Lord Krishna to justify it.However, there are many exampsles like Sarada Mata, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada and Swami Sivananda, which do not satisfy the criterion. All of them are definitely "high level souls having incarnated".Moreover, it is questionable to have such an important formula based on "vimsottari lordships", which is just a star-planet mapping for one specific dasa scheme among many, as taught by Parasara. Secondly, the space of Vimsottari lord of abhisheka nakshtra contains nine planets, while the space of chara karakas contains eight planets. A formula based on equating them is mixing up two unequal sets. That is illogical. Moreover, this formula fails in many examples and works in just two (third example is based on questionable data). Thus, it sounds like a formula constructed based on an

observation which was made based on just 2-3 charts.Any genuine formula should work in a far higher percentage of applicable charts.* * *I tried to find some reasonable and logical criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra to find initial indications of a potential for liberation, that works in all the charts I mentioned above. I was unsuccessful. Each formula works in some and fails in some. The example charts I chose are all unquestionably very high caliber spiritual people.After my failure, I bowed to Maharshi Parasara after a daily Chandi homam and prayed to him to kindly show me a criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra that works in a higher percentage of applicable charts. The formula that was given to me is this: "The abhisheka nakshatra - the 28th nakshatra - reckoned from chara aatma kaaraka has aspect or vedha in sarvatobhadra chakra (SBC) from a planet that is also associated with (a) the 12th house from chara

aatma kaaraka in D-20 chart and (b) 5th or 9th house from lagna in rasi chart. If chara aatma kaaraka is Rahu, counting of the 28th star in SBC as well as counting of the 12th house in D-20 is in anti-zodiacal order."The D-20 is the chart of spiritual progress. The 12th house from AK in it shows the liberation of individual soul as one progresses spiritually. Similarly, SBC is the chakra in the nakshatra space and abhisheka (28th) nakshatra from AK in it shows liberation of soul in the nakshatra space. Planet having an influence on both the factors supports spiritual liberation. The 5th and 9th from lagna show poorvapunya and bhagya. If the same planet influences all the three factors, that planet can suggest liberation. The reverse counting from Rahu is because Rahu goes in reverse. Even when defining argala, Parasara asked to reckon argalas and virodha argalas based on houses from Rahu and Ketu in anti-zodiacal order.Thus, we are

finding a planetary influence that brings poorvapunya and bhagya (5th and 9th) to this specific existence (lagna) and promotes liberation (12th house/28th star) of individual soul (AK) in the conscious mental plane (SBC) and the plane of spiritual activity (D-20).Please note that this formula does not use Vimsottari dasa lordships. It uses nakshatra chakra (SBC) for nakshatras and D-20 for rasis.* * *When the formula came to me, I tried it on the charts of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sarada Mata, Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada, Swami Sivananda. It worked in all the charts.Sarada Mata's AK is Moon. He is in Uttara Phalguni. The 28th star from him is Poorva Phalguni. It has vedha only from Mars. In D-20, Moon is in Ta and the 12th lord from him is Mars. In rasi, Mars is the 5th lord.Ramakrishna' s AK is Rahu. He is in Krittika. The 28th star from him counted

anti-zodiacally is Rohini. It has vedha in SBC only from Saturn. In D-20, Rahu is in Cp and the 12th house counted anti-zodiacally is Aq. Saturn owns it. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.Vivekananda' s AK is Sun. He is in Uttarashadha. The 28t star from him is Poorvashadha. It has vedha in SBC only from Moon and Saturn. In D-20, Sun is in Pi and Saturn is the 12th lord from him. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house.Ramana Maharashi's AK is Moon. He is in Punarvasu. The 28th star from him is Ardra. It has vedha from Sun and Rahu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20, Moon is in Aq and Jupiter and Rahu aspect Cp. In rasi, Jupiter occupies the 5th house.Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati's AK is Saturn. He is in Chitra. The 28th star from him is Hasta. It has vedha from Rahu and Ketu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20, Saturn is in Cp and Jupiter owns the 12th while Rahu and Ketu aspect it. In rasi, Jupiter owns 5th and

occupies 9th.Srila Prabhupada's AK is Rahu. He is in Dhanishtha. The 28th star from him is Satabhishak. It has no vedha in SBC, but Sun aspects it. In D-20, Rahu is in Sg. The 12th from him reckoned anti-zodiacally is Cp and Sun aspects it. In rasi, Sun is the 9th lord.Swami Sivananda's AK is Sun. He is in Poorva Phalguni. The 28th star from him is Magha. It has vedha from Moon and Rahu in SBC and Saturn aspects it. In D-20, Sun is in Pi. The 12th from him is Aq. Saturn and Rahu own it and Moon aspects it. In rasi, Moon is lagna lord in 9th house.* * *Maharshis who overcame the concept of Time and space-time continuum when living here in a body can bless us even after they leave earth. To those of you who do any kind of homam daily or weekly and want to surrender to Parasara and get some blessings from him, I suggest making 4 or 8 or 12 aahutis (oblations) of ghee at the beginning of uttaraangam while saying one of the

following:daivavidbhyo varaM viGYaM shaktiputraM munIshvaraMhoraa shaastra pravaktaaraM paraasharaM namaamyahaM. svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama.orom pam paraasharaaya namaH svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.vedicastrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.vedicastrologer.org/Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www..org/------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

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September 9, 2009

Namaste Lakshmi,

That's good thinking!

After this principle passed in 7 out of 7 spiritually elevated charts I picked,

I tried it on 15 normal charts. There were 2 false positives out of 15. In other

words, success rate is 100% in correct set and 13% in wrong set.

Similar testing can be done with various other principles. For example, take

Sanjay's principle that I started with, viz lord of abhisheka nakshatra from

Moon being AK as per Vimsottari dasa scheme. As mentioned before, it worked in 2

out of 7 spiritual charts I tried. In the normal charts, there were 6 false

positives out of 15. In other words, success rate is 29% in correct set and 40%

in wrong set. Success rate of a good principle should be considerably higher in

the correct set than in the wrong set.

The data for 6 false positives with Sanjay's principle is: Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

(1928 January 5, 4:29 pm LMT, 68e08, 27n27), Yasser Arafat (1929 August 29, 2:05

am, 2 hrs east of GMT, 31e15, 30n03), Subhash Chandra Bose (1897 January 23,

12:15 pm LMT, 85e50, 20n30), Telugu film star turned politician Chiranjeevi

(1955 August 22, 10:31 am IST, Mogaltur, India), my wife Padmaja (1971 September

12, 8:25 am IST, Guntur, India), a nephew of mine called Srikar (2000 September

28, 4:49 pm EDT, Edison, NJ).

* * *

> Narasimha are you saying when trying this

> to only use the Jagannath Ayanamsa?

I will even say this - to get reliable lagna in divisional charts in TP, use

Jagannatha ayanamsa always. Lahiri is almost correct, but has a small error that

can have a big impact in TP.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Narasimha,and all,

> To make the research even more credible.

> It seems that it should be tried also on a number

> non spiritual persons charts as well.

> Hopefully the members of this group can try out your research on a number of

charts , both of spiritual and more mundane peoples charts.

> Narasimha are you saying when trying this to only use the Jagannath Ayanamsa?

> thanks

> Lakshmi

>

> ________________________________

> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:10:22 AM

> Re: Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra

>

> Namaste Narasimha,

>

> Very good work.

>

> I was trying this in some charts and most of them gave very accurate results.

>

> I have a few queries:

>

> 1) If both condition (a) and condition (b) get fulfilled, can we safely

conclude that this person will attain to the highest spiritual experience of

Moksha?

>

> 2) If only one condition is fulfilled, say the Vedha graha aspects the 12th

from Ak in D20, but is not connected to 5th and/or 9th in rasi, or vice versa,

can we conclude that the person is spiritual but may not reach the highest

realization?

>

> 3) In case of no Vedha graha, does it indicate that this person cannot attain

moksha in that life time?

>

> Thanks for your research. Appreciate them a lot.

>

> -Regards

> Rajarshi

>

> The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

>

> --- On Tue, 8/9/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> >Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>

> > Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra

> >sohamsa@ .com, vedic astrology,

, sjcBoston@grou ps.com, sjc-guru@

s.com

> >Tuesday, 8 September, 2009, 5:22 AM

> >

> >Namaste Sanjay and friends,

> >

> >In your book " Brihat Nakshatra " , you said regarding Ramakrishna Paramhamsa's

chart:

> >

> > " In all my years of study and tens of thousands of charts, I have never come

across anything as close to this chart which represents a perfect incarnation of

Lord Shiva. "

> >

> >Then you went on to talk about the " specific " form of " Shiva " shown by the

chart.

> >

> >* * *

> >

> >However, this is inconsistent with what Ramakrishna himself revealed and

religious authorities at his time opined.

> >

> >When Ramakrishna was on death bed with cancer, Narendra (Swami Vivekananda)

once thought to himself, " I will accept his divinity if he declares his divinity

*now*, inspite of this sickness and suffering. " As if he detected the thought,

Ramakrishna said to Narendra, " you still have doubts? He who was Rama and

Krishna before is in this body now. And I do not mean it in your vedantic

sense! "

> >

> >By explicitly saying that he did not mean it in the vedantic sense and

referring to " He who was Rama and Krishna before " , he clearly revealed that he

was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ramakrishna never spoke a lie and valued

truthfulness highly. The words of the realized man in question himself must be

more reliable than questionable and unreliable astrological principles.

> >

> >Moreover, a couple of great religious authorities of the time studied

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in his younger days when he was being trained by

Bhairavi Brahmani and saw all behavioral signs and physical marks that confirmed

to them that he was an incarnation of Vishnu. They declared him to be an

incarnation of Vishnu.

> >

> >Given these two facts, your conclusion cannot be correct.

> >

> >Vivekananda was inherently a jnaani. He rejected Maayaa and even called

Ramakrishna' s visions of various deities as hallucinations and plays of the

mind. He only accepted the formless. Ramakrishna slowly created in him respect

and love for Vishnu Maayaa that governs duality. Well, it takes one with

purified Vishnu tattva to create respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa in one with

raw Shiva tattva. Moreover, it was at the Shiva temple at Amarnath in Himalayas

that Vivekananda finally realized his true nature.

> >

> >* * *

> >

> >As Jupiter and Mercury are the natural guru and sishya and Jupiter is

supposed to show Sadashiva and Mercury is supposed to show Vishnu, one may be

tempted to theorize that Shiva is guru and Vishnu is sishya and attribute Shiva

tattva to guru in a guru-sishya pair. However, that is no logic. Jupiter is not

just Sadashiva, he is Jagannath too. Some of Vishnu's avataras have been the

greatest gurus. Krishna is the ultimate jagadguru for his teaching of Bhagavad

Gita, the greatest spiritual teaching ever.

> >

> >Also, take the example of another illustrious guru-sishya pair from a few

millennia back - Govinda Bhagavatpada and Aadi Shankara. Govinda Bhagavatpada

was a highly learned and elevated master. He too had several great sishyas. His

main sishya Aadi Shankara is considered an incarnation of Lord Shiva and Govinda

Bhagavatpada is considered to be of Vishnu tattwa.

> >

> >If one says that Govinda Bhagavatpada must have had an amsha of Shiva

(Jupiter) because he was the guru and that Aadi Shankara must have had an amsha

of Vishnu (Mercury) because he was the sishya, that would be no logic at all!

Shiva himself said that he would be born as Aadi Shankara.

> >

> >Actually, given the parallels between the lives of Aadi Shankara and

Vivekananda, it is possible that Vivekananda was a re-incarnation of Aadi

Shankara.

> >

> >* * *

> >

> >------------ --------- --------- -

> >Abhisheka Nakshatra Principle

> >------------ --------- --------- -

> >

> >You said in the same book that abhisheka nakshatra's lord (as per Vimsottari

dasa lordship) being AK is the " first indication of a high level soul having

incarnated " . You use the charts of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and a

questionable chart of Lord Krishna to justify it.

> >

> >However, there are many exampsles like Sarada Mata, Ramana Maharshi, Swami

Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada and Swami Sivananda, which do not

satisfy the criterion. All of them are definitely " high level souls having

incarnated " .

> >

> >Moreover, it is questionable to have such an important formula based on

" vimsottari lordships " , which is just a star-planet mapping for one specific

dasa scheme among many, as taught by Parasara. Secondly, the space of Vimsottari

lord of abhisheka nakshtra contains nine planets, while the space of chara

karakas contains eight planets. A formula based on equating them is mixing up

two unequal sets. That is illogical. Moreover, this formula fails in many

examples and works in just two (third example is based on questionable data).

Thus, it sounds like a formula constructed based on an observation which was

made based on just 2-3 charts.

> >

> >Any genuine formula should work in a far higher percentage of applicable

charts.

> >

> >* * *

> >

> >I tried to find some reasonable and logical criterion based on abhisheka

nakshatra to find initial indications of a potential for liberation, that works

in all the charts I mentioned above. I was unsuccessful. Each formula works in

some and fails in some. The example charts I chose are all unquestionably very

high caliber spiritual people.

> >

> >After my failure, I bowed to Maharshi Parasara after a daily Chandi homam and

prayed to him to kindly show me a criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra that

works in a higher percentage of applicable charts. The formula that was given to

me is this: " The abhisheka nakshatra - the 28th nakshatra - reckoned from chara

aatma kaaraka has aspect or vedha in sarvatobhadra chakra (SBC) from a planet

that is also associated with (a) the 12th house from chara aatma kaaraka in D-20

chart and (b) 5th or 9th house from lagna in rasi chart. If chara aatma kaaraka

is Rahu, counting of the 28th star in SBC as well as counting of the 12th house

in D-20 is in anti-zodiacal order. "

> >

> >The D-20 is the chart of spiritual progress. The 12th house from AK in it