Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: Hi shanmukh I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write 1.Crux of vedic astrology 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrated approach Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors The details are given in the first few pages of both books The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid regardss vishnu Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear friend, Shree Shanmukha Jee. When you have already admitted in other jyotish(AIA) groups that you have the same four chapters of Jaimin Upadesha Sutra (predictive part) available with you...and suggest the need for research... So at the end you came to the same point ... the need for fresh thinking and research...on the basis of available resources... the points origianlly echoed in the Sthira Dasa paper by PVR. Hope you will come up with some contributions on Jaimini Upadesa Sutra. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy Jaimini Sutras.sohamsa , teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > > > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: > > Hi shanmukh > > > I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group > > > The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write > > > 1.Crux of vedic astrology > 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrated approach > > > Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com > > > They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors > > > The details are given in the first few pages of both books > > > The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid > > > regardss > > > vishnu > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Om Namah Sivaya Namaste Sri Tripathy, I dont know whether I am misunderstood or I am not able to communicate correctly. The point is I never said fresh thinking / research is unnecessary. I welcomed it manytimes in this list itself, for example Chara Karaka, Drigdasa articles by Narasimha. The point I differ is to state / doubt the caliber and efficacy of other commentators of Jaimin, when you never read them. If a person like Sri Narasimha writes that way many students here will definitely be influenced and the necessary research into Jaimini will be lost. People will always read the all-in-one books, forgetting the references, which will be detrimental in the long run. This is been done for centuries and at least shall we try to bring out those works to light. Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, not all the available resources. By the way, I admitted on AIA list, that there are contradicting points in 3rd and 4th chapter only, which somehow surfaced this century by the efforts of gaints like Sri S.K.Kar, Sri Ghosh etc. Hope I am understood. Warm Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friend, > > > Shree Shanmukha Jee. > > When you have already admitted in other jyotish(AIA) groups that > > you have the same four chapters of Jaimin Upadesha Sutra (predictive part) available with you...and suggest the need for research... > > > So at the end you came to the same point ... > > the need for fresh thinking and research...on > > the basis of available resources... > > the points origianlly echoed in the Sthira Dasa paper by PVR. > > Hope you will come up with some contributions on Jaimini Upadesa Sutra. > > Regards, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > Jaimini Sutras.sohamsa , teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi shanmukh > > > > > > I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group > > > > > > The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write > > > > > > 1.Crux of vedic astrology > > 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrated approach > > > > > > Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com > > > > > > They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors > > > > > > The details are given in the first few pages of both books > > > > > > The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid > > > > > > regardss > > > > > > vishnu > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Namaste, > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, > not all the available resources. And, I have clarified my reasons in the paper. When I tried to avail all the resources I had access to, I could not come up with anything that worked with any reasonable consistency. When I faithfully stuck to Parasara, I was satisfied with the results. When one maharshi (Jaimin) spoke extremely tersely and *cryptically* and another maharshi (Parasara) spoke with more clarity on the same thing, I see nothing wrong in relying on the latter. There must be a way to interpret the former so that he is consistent with the latter. After all, maharshis do not contradict each other. Especially, if different ancient and modern commentators of the former maharshi gave conflicting views on what he meant (which is the case with Jaimini), it is very very logical and prudent to fall back on the latter maharshi to draw conclusions (especially, if the principle works in a far higher percentage of charts than indicated by the random probabilities). Please note that I am not " attacking " or dismissing or disrespecting any maharshi here. I am pointing out that we should take our limitations into consideration and pay more attention to the maharshi who came down to our level when teaching things. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Namaste Sri Tripathy, > > I dont know whether I am misunderstood or I am not able to communicate correctly. The point is I never said fresh thinking / research is unnecessary. I welcomed it manytimes in this list itself, for example Chara Karaka, Drigdasa articles by Narasimha. The point I differ is to state / doubt the caliber and efficacy of other commentators of Jaimin, when you never read them. If a person like Sri Narasimha writes that way many students here will definitely be influenced and the necessary research into Jaimini will be lost. People will always read the all-in-one books, forgetting the references, which will be detrimental in the long run. This is been done for centuries and at least shall we try to bring out those works to light. > > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, not all the available resources. > > By the way, I admitted on AIA list, that there are contradicting points in 3rd and 4th chapter only, which somehow surfaced this century by the efforts of gaints like Sri S.K.Kar, Sri Ghosh etc. > > Hope I am understood. > > Warm Regards, > Shanmukha > > sohamsa , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > Shree Shanmukha Jee. > > > > When you have already admitted in other jyotish(AIA) groups that > > > > you have the same four chapters of Jaimin Upadesha Sutra (predictive part) available with you...and suggest the need for research... > > > > > > So at the end you came to the same point ... > > > > the need for fresh thinking and research...on > > > > the basis of available resources... > > > > the points origianlly echoed in the Sthira Dasa paper by PVR. > > > > Hope you will come up with some contributions on Jaimini Upadesa Sutra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Jaimini Sutras.sohamsa , teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi shanmukh > > > > > > > > > I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group > > > > > > > > > The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write > > > > > > > > > 1.Crux of vedic astrology > > > 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrated approach > > > > > > > > > Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com > > > > > > > > > They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors > > > > > > > > > The details are given in the first few pages of both books > > > > > > > > > The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid > > > > > > > > > regardss > > > > > > > > > vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Namaste, > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, > not all the available resources. And, I have clarified my reasons in the paper. When I tried to avail all the resources I had access to, I could not come up with anything that worked with any reasonable consistency. When I faithfully stuck to Parasara, I was satisfied with the results. When one maharshi (Jaimin) spoke extremely tersely and *cryptically* and another maharshi (Parasara) spoke with more clarity on the same thing, I see nothing wrong in relying on the latter. There must be a way to interpret the former so that he is consistent with the latter. After all, maharshis do not contradict each other. Especially, if different ancient and modern commentators of the former maharshi gave conflicting views on what he meant (which is the case with Jaimini), it is very very logical and prudent to fall back on the latter maharshi to draw conclusions (especially, if the principle works in a far higher percentage of charts than indicated by the random probabilities). Please note that I am not " attacking " or dismissing or disrespecting any maharshi here. I am pointing out that we should take our limitations into consideration and pay more attention to the maharshi who came down to our level when teaching things. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Namaste Sri Tripathy, > > I dont know whether I am misunderstood or I am not able to communicate correctly. The point is I never said fresh thinking / research is unnecessary. I welcomed it manytimes in this list itself, for example Chara Karaka, Drigdasa articles by Narasimha. The point I differ is to state / doubt the caliber and efficacy of other commentators of Jaimin, when you never read them. If a person like Sri Narasimha writes that way many students here will definitely be influenced and the necessary research into Jaimini will be lost. People will always read the all-in-one books, forgetting the references, which will be detrimental in the long run. This is been done for centuries and at least shall we try to bring out those works to light. > > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, not all the available resources. > > By the way, I admitted on AIA list, that there are contradicting points in 3rd and 4th chapter only, which somehow surfaced this century by the efforts of gaints like Sri S.K.Kar, Sri Ghosh etc. > > Hope I am understood. > > Warm Regards, > Shanmukha > > sohamsa , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > Shree Shanmukha Jee. > > > > When you have already admitted in other jyotish(AIA) groups that > > > > you have the same four chapters of Jaimin Upadesha Sutra (predictive part) available with you...and suggest the need for research... > > > > > > So at the end you came to the same point ... > > > > the need for fresh thinking and research...on > > > > the basis of available resources... > > > > the points origianlly echoed in the Sthira Dasa paper by PVR. > > > > Hope you will come up with some contributions on Jaimini Upadesa Sutra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Jaimini Sutras.sohamsa , teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi shanmukh > > > > > > > > > I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group > > > > > > > > > The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write > > > > > > > > > 1.Crux of vedic astrology > > > 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrated approach > > > > > > > > > Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com > > > > > > > > > They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors > > > > > > > > > The details are given in the first few pages of both books > > > > > > > > > The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid > > > > > > > > > regardss > > > > > > > > > vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 The approach of PVR is perfect in principle, although one may fall short in the application of this principle. Maharshis do not contradict each other, and if we find contradictions we should try to check interpolations, wrong interpretations & c.-Vinay Jha========================= ====Narasimha PVR Rao <pvrsohamsa ; vedic astrology ; Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:40:26 PM Fw: Jaimini and parasara Namaste, > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, > not all the available resources. And, I have clarified my reasons in the paper. When I tried to avail all the resources I had access to, I could not come up with anything that worked with any reasonable consistency. When I faithfully stuck to Parasara, I was satisfied with the results. When one maharshi (Jaimin) spoke extremely tersely and *cryptically* and another maharshi (Parasara) spoke with more clarity on the same thing, I see nothing wrong in relying on the latter. There must be a way to interpret the former so that he is consistent with the latter. After all, maharshis do not contradict each other. Especially, if different ancient and modern commentators of the former maharshi gave conflicting views on what he meant (which is the case with Jaimini), it is very very logical and prudent to fall back on the latter maharshi to draw conclusions (especially, if the principle works in a far higher percentage of charts than indicated by the random probabilities) . Please note that I am not "attacking" or dismissing or disrespecting any maharshi here. I am pointing out that we should take our limitations into consideration and pay more attention to the maharshi who came down to our level when teaching things. Best regards, Narasimha ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - sohamsa@ .com, "Shanmukha" <teli_sha2002@ ...> wrote: > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Namaste Sri Tripathy, > > I dont know whether I am misunderstood or I am not able to communicate correctly. The point is I never said fresh thinking / research is unnecessary. I welcomed it manytimes in this list itself, for example Chara Karaka, Drigdasa articles by Narasimha. The point I differ is to state / doubt the caliber and efficacy of other commentators of Jaimin, when you never read them. If a person like Sri Narasimha writes that way many students here will definitely be influenced and the necessary research into Jaimini will be lost. People will always read the all-in-one books, forgetting the references, which will be detrimental in the long run. This is been done for centuries and at least shall we try to bring out those works to light. > > Sri Narasimha based his paper only on BPHS, not all the available resources. > > By the way, I admitted on AIA list, that there are contradicting points in 3rd and 4th chapter only, which somehow surfaced this century by the efforts of gaints like Sri S.K.Kar, Sri Ghosh etc. > > Hope I am understood. > > Warm Regards, > Shanmukha > > sohamsa@ .com, "Mrutyunjay Tripathy" <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > Shree Shanmukha Jee. > > > > When you have already admitted in other jyotish(AIA) groups that > > > > you have the same four chapters of Jaimin Upadesha Sutra (predictive part) available with you...and suggest the need for research... > > > > > > So at the end you came to the same point ... > > > > the need for fresh thinking and research...on > > > > the basis of available resources... > > > > the points origianlly echoed in the Sthira Dasa paper by PVR. > > > > Hope you will come up with some contributions on Jaimini Upadesa Sutra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > > > Jaimini Sutras.sohamsa@ .com, teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/8/09, As Th wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi shanmukh > > > > > > > > > I am trying to post this message to you in sohmasa for last 3 days.My post is not published by sohmasa group > > > > > > > > > The stand of SJC is very clear in the books they write > > > > > > > > > 1.Crux of vedic astrology > > > 2.Vedic Astrology-Integrate d approach > > > > > > > > > Both books area vailable as free download in scribd.com > > > > > > > > > They both have ample references by the author stating that Jaimini and parashara system are same with only minor differences as it is possible among different authors > > > > > > > > > The details are given in the first few pages of both books > > > > > > > > > The statements made by Sarbani ratha and other members of SJC are really stupid > > > > > > > > > regardss > > > > > > > > > vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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