Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, I fully agree with your logic. But, what I notice is that Saturn's aspect on Venus is very weak as Saturn is at 2 degrees and Venus is at 28 degrees. Of course, Saturn occupies Venus's sign. But, with that can we say Saturn controls Venus? Regards, Krishna ________________________________ neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Thursday, 6 August, 2009 8:51:02 PM Re: Re: Creativity and Jyotish I am sorry, please exclude taurus! Neelam 2009/8/6 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Dear Krishna ji, > > Moon and venus under full control of Saturn can lead to denial of marriage, > especially when there is no benefic influence on 7H/7L. Here moon, cancer, > venus, libra and Taurus are all under saturn’s control. Saturn strongly > influencing moon gives a thirst for spirituality and its association with > venus leads to vairagya. More so in this case as Saturn and venus enjoy 5/9 > lordship. > > It might be difficult to blame any one factor solely for any event, but I > think this may be a very strong factor. > > Regards > Neelam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, I think the word CONTROL comes from the translated dictum.:-) Nonetheless, Saturn does greatly influence Venus. Despite the difference in longitude, Saturn has come with a greater purpose and strength (5L exalted in 10th from its house). It can even convey effectively from a distance. Venus is in 10H from Saturn, and its dispositor under check of saturn. And from Venus, Saturn is also the 7L aspecting venus. In navamsha it is conjoined the dispositor of venus. If we check the subtle impulses of these planets (through NL/SL), may be its ketu who connects and delivers! Venus, however, would surely try to go out of saturn’s hold, being distant and closer to mars, etc., whenever its dasha/antars arrive. But having been through the Venus MD before 23 years of age might be one of the discouraging factors. But of course, it is easier said on the hindsight! Thanks and Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Dear Su ji, No problem and i believe it is a good question also.I never ever had any inclination to marry.Your observation is also right about the combinations and permutations according to me!!!! Regards, gopi. , " vreality_au " <reality_v wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji > > I just took note of this thread. I beg your pardon in advance if this question is inappropriate - but has marriage simply been denied in your life or hve you also been disinterested in it? I ask because I've noticed, esp in charts of spiritual natives, tht when both UL and lord of UL are influenced by Saturn the native seems to have absolutely no interest in marriage, more so when the planet happens to be Venus!. > > rgds > Su > > > , " gopi_b927 " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy ji, > > > > thank you for your time and analysis.Yes my chart appears like that and > > i feel it is a good chart for research.The saying appearances are > > deceptive is true in my chart. > > > > The main problem i find is though mercury is powerful as you said it is > > in papakartari yoga as lagna and 10th lord with all three 6,8,12 lords > > zooming on.....the ray of hope and grace may be jupiter's 4th aspect. > > > > Secondly the yogakaraqka venus became weeak as you said. > > > > From moon also 10th house and 10th lord are in papakartari inspite of a > > Rajayoga!yes moon is strengthened by jupiter. > > > > What about Rahu?I read somewhere that tamil scriptures praise Rahu in > > capricorn.The present operating dasa is Rahu.Hope that Neelam ji also > > will have a look at it and come out with a few gems. > > > > By the way i am a bachelor to the core.Hope that this helps the study. > > > > I will study the rectified time for sure leisurely and deeply but the > > time i gave you is rectified by me basing Divisional charts..... > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi ji, > > > > > > When I first looked at your chart, I was astonished by very visible > > excellent placements of many planets both in Rasi and in Navamsha. > > However, one can see some inherent weakness that has robbed lot of the > > charm w.r.t creativity: > > > > > > From Lagna: > > > > > > - 9L Venus is close to Gandantha, hence is weak > > > - 5L Saturn is disposited by weak Venus > > > - Vargottama strength of Saturn is very low as there is huge > > difference in placement in terms of degrees in Rasi and Navamsha > > > > > > From Moon: (Similar pattern as from Lagna) > > > > > > - 9L Sun is weak being in Rasi Sandhi > > > - 5L Mars is disposited by weak Sun > > > > > > > > > However, you are blessed with a very strong lagna lord and very good > > placement of Moon. No wonder that you are a contented man. > > > > > > I tried to rectify your chart using my technique and find that the > > rectified time to be 6:33:44. You may want to use it in case you want to > > study varga charts in detail. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > gopi_b927 gopi_b927@ > > > > > > Wednesday, 5 August, 2009 8:52:42 PM > > > Re: Creativity and Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy ji, > > > > > > hope i am not interupting. Creativity combined with spirituality and > > also > > > science and research ;your example of swamy Chinmayananda and Einstein > > > are really good. > > > > > > In this regard both yourself and Neelam ji have mentioned Rahu.I have > > > Rahu in my 5th house in mutual aspect with venus 2nd and 9th lord in > > > 11th ofcorse with Ketu.5th lord saturn is vargottama and exalted in > > 2nd > > > is also aspected by jupiter4,7 from 10th.Jupiter conjuncts vargottama > > > saturn in 8th in Navamsa of venus who is exalted in lagna and in > > > exchange with jupiter as well. Apart from spirituality from my early > > age > > > there is no material achievements at all.I have been practicing kriya > > > yoga since last 35 yrs or so.Into astrology since 1996.But one thing > > .I > > > am contented. > > > > > > If you please show some more light i will be obliged.I am giving my > > > birth details below. > > > > > > D.O.B....... 17/9/1953 > > > > > > P.O.B.....GUNTUR( INDIA) > > > > > > T.O.B....... 6.35hrs. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Namita ji, > > > > > > > > When I was studying at IISc., we had invited Swami Chinmayananda to > > > talk about 'The Role of Spirituality in Scientific Discoveries' . This > > > was about 30 years ago. Though I have forgotten most of what he said, > > > till today I clearly remember one point he made: > > > > > > > > A scientist does not discover something at the end of a series of > > > experiments. However, first something strikes him suddenly, he > > > instantaneously recognizes that he has latched on to something new > > that > > > was unknown until then. However, he goes on conducting series of > > > experiments for years just to be able to demonstrate his idea to the > > > scientific community or public at large, in a way that they could > > > understand and appreciate. If something like that has to strike to > > > someone, their mind has to be fully focussed on a particular > > > problem/topic. Spirituality can help make the mind improve its > > focussing > > > ability. Spirituality can help the mind to become more disciplined > > > /fcoussed so that more discoveries could be achieved. > > > > > > > > How true this statement is! > > > > > > > > When it comes to mind, it is ruled by Moon. And, Rahu gives the > > > ability to think beyod the traditional knowledge or borders. 5L (of > > > creativity) plays an importnat role too. The other piece is 9L - the > > > lord of dharma/spirituality . > > > > > > > > Let us look at Albert Einstein's chart. His Moon though is in the > > sign > > > of debilitation, has comfortably crossed the deepest point of > > > debilitation and hence is not tainted. Its dispositor Mars is getting > > > closer to its deepest point of exaltation. 5L Venus is exalted in a > > > Kendra! 9L satrun is under parivartana with Jupiter in Rasi and with > > > Venus in Navamsha. As a result it behaves like a vargottama planet in > > > its MT sign (9H). It also occupies its exaltation sign in Navamsha. > > Rahu > > > is conjunct Mars, the planet that rules logic. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Namita Jain namita.saket@ ... > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 3:21:45 PM > > > > Re: Creativity and Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam ji > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree every one has some > > creative > > > potential in them. And all the houses contribute in a way or another. > > > How each house makes a difference is perhaps important to understand. > > > You have thrown some light on the subject. > > > > If time permits please guide me more in this regard. For example how > > > can we differentiate the charts of famous scientists from common > > people. > > > In this too how can we make out the subject of research. > > > > > > > > thanks and regards > > > > namita > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Namita ji, > > > > > > > > > > Fifth house, perhaps, is the *generalised hub of creativity*, if I > > > may say > > > > > so. As the house of procreation and progeny, this is where the > > > essential and > > > > > ultimate creativity is bestowed. Also, it carries the mandate of > > > previous > > > > > merits, from where the innate potential (creativity) might arise. > > > Further, > > > > > some significations assigned to it like dhi (intelligence) , > > buddhi > > > > > (intellect), viveka (discrimination) , vidya (learning), etc., > > form > > > a good > > > > > package for creativity to be. > > > > > > > > > > Worldly perceptions and our resultant creative expressions, > > however, > > > may not > > > > > be confined to any one house. An understanding of the elements of > > > creativity > > > > > could help in locating its spread. The houses and signs provide > > the > > > environs > > > > > to express and unfold, like the *outlets* from where creativity > > > emerges! > > > > > > > > > > It might have to do with the entire gamut of planetary forces and > > > their > > > > > inter-planetary positioning that one arrives with. It could be > > this > > > > > dynamism, supported by dashas, which enlivens the chart. Everyone > > is > > > not > > > > > born a Vinci or a Picasso, but every individual may be creative in > > > some > > > > > area, in some house! > > > > > > > > > > Manas (Moon), often reflecting the soul (Sun), may be where > > > creativity wells > > > > > from. Mutable Buddha(i), flanking the lights absorbs and braces > > the > > > idea, > > > > > thinking or the thought process. Other influences, then pour their > > > colours > > > > > to complete the picture, which is made to adorn some area of life. > > > > > > > > > > An out-of-the-box thinking may be an important element of > > > creativity, which > > > > > is also what we need while judging creativity astrologically. > > > Creativity of > > > > > ACTION may be different from creativity of FICTION! Wasn't our > > > toothless > > > > > Fakir just as creative, if not more, as say Wordsworth? How about > > > RAHU > > > > > throwing his hat into the ring, for that crazy, innovative streak? > > > > > > > > > > Just sharing some random thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 dear Gopi ji thank you for your feedback. rgds Su , " gopi_b927 " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > > Dear Su ji, > > No problem and i believe it is a good question also.I never ever had any > inclination to marry.Your observation is also right about the > combinations and permutations according to me!!!! > > Regards, > > gopi. > , " vreality_au " <reality_v@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi ji > > > > I just took note of this thread. I beg your pardon in advance if this > question is inappropriate - but has marriage simply been denied in your > life or hve you also been disinterested in it? I ask because I've > noticed, esp in charts of spiritual natives, tht when both UL and lord > of UL are influenced by Saturn the native seems to have absolutely no > interest in marriage, more so when the planet happens to be Venus!. > > > > rgds > > Su > > > > > > , " gopi_b927 " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy ji, > > > > > > thank you for your time and analysis.Yes my chart appears like that > and > > > i feel it is a good chart for research.The saying appearances are > > > deceptive is true in my chart. > > > > > > The main problem i find is though mercury is powerful as you said it > is > > > in papakartari yoga as lagna and 10th lord with all three 6,8,12 > lords > > > zooming on.....the ray of hope and grace may be jupiter's 4th > aspect. > > > > > > Secondly the yogakaraqka venus became weeak as you said. > > > > > > From moon also 10th house and 10th lord are in papakartari inspite > of a > > > Rajayoga!yes moon is strengthened by jupiter. > > > > > > What about Rahu?I read somewhere that tamil scriptures praise Rahu > in > > > capricorn.The present operating dasa is Rahu.Hope that Neelam ji > also > > > will have a look at it and come out with a few gems. > > > > > > By the way i am a bachelor to the core.Hope that this helps the > study. > > > > > > I will study the rectified time for sure leisurely and deeply but > the > > > time i gave you is rectified by me basing Divisional charts..... > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > When I first looked at your chart, I was astonished by very > visible > > > excellent placements of many planets both in Rasi and in Navamsha. > > > However, one can see some inherent weakness that has robbed lot of > the > > > charm w.r.t creativity: > > > > > > > > From Lagna: > > > > > > > > - 9L Venus is close to Gandantha, hence is weak > > > > - 5L Saturn is disposited by weak Venus > > > > - Vargottama strength of Saturn is very low as there is huge > > > difference in placement in terms of degrees in Rasi and Navamsha > > > > > > > > From Moon: (Similar pattern as from Lagna) > > > > > > > > - 9L Sun is weak being in Rasi Sandhi > > > > - 5L Mars is disposited by weak Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > However, you are blessed with a very strong lagna lord and very > good > > > placement of Moon. No wonder that you are a contented man. > > > > > > > > I tried to rectify your chart using my technique and find that the > > > rectified time to be 6:33:44. You may want to use it in case you > want to > > > study varga charts in detail. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > gopi_b927 gopi_b927@ > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 5 August, 2009 8:52:42 PM > > > > Re: Creativity and Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy ji, > > > > > > > > hope i am not interupting. Creativity combined with spirituality > and > > > also > > > > science and research ;your example of swamy Chinmayananda and > Einstein > > > > are really good. > > > > > > > > In this regard both yourself and Neelam ji have mentioned Rahu.I > have > > > > Rahu in my 5th house in mutual aspect with venus 2nd and 9th lord > in > > > > 11th ofcorse with Ketu.5th lord saturn is vargottama and exalted > in > > > 2nd > > > > is also aspected by jupiter4,7 from 10th.Jupiter conjuncts > vargottama > > > > saturn in 8th in Navamsa of venus who is exalted in lagna and in > > > > exchange with jupiter as well. Apart from spirituality from my > early > > > age > > > > there is no material achievements at all.I have been practicing > kriya > > > > yoga since last 35 yrs or so.Into astrology since 1996.But one > thing > > > .I > > > > am contented. > > > > > > > > If you please show some more light i will be obliged.I am giving > my > > > > birth details below. > > > > > > > > D.O.B....... 17/9/1953 > > > > > > > > P.O.B.....GUNTUR( INDIA) > > > > > > > > T.O.B....... 6.35hrs. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Namita ji, > > > > > > > > > > When I was studying at IISc., we had invited Swami Chinmayananda > to > > > > talk about 'The Role of Spirituality in Scientific Discoveries' . > This > > > > was about 30 years ago. Though I have forgotten most of what he > said, > > > > till today I clearly remember one point he made: > > > > > > > > > > A scientist does not discover something at the end of a series > of > > > > experiments. However, first something strikes him suddenly, he > > > > instantaneously recognizes that he has latched on to something new > > > that > > > > was unknown until then. However, he goes on conducting series of > > > > experiments for years just to be able to demonstrate his idea to > the > > > > scientific community or public at large, in a way that they could > > > > understand and appreciate. If something like that has to strike to > > > > someone, their mind has to be fully focussed on a particular > > > > problem/topic. Spirituality can help make the mind improve its > > > focussing > > > > ability. Spirituality can help the mind to become more disciplined > > > > /fcoussed so that more discoveries could be achieved. > > > > > > > > > > How true this statement is! > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to mind, it is ruled by Moon. And, Rahu gives the > > > > ability to think beyod the traditional knowledge or borders. 5L > (of > > > > creativity) plays an importnat role too. The other piece is 9L - > the > > > > lord of dharma/spirituality . > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at Albert Einstein's chart. His Moon though is in > the > > > sign > > > > of debilitation, has comfortably crossed the deepest point of > > > > debilitation and hence is not tainted. Its dispositor Mars is > getting > > > > closer to its deepest point of exaltation. 5L Venus is exalted in > a > > > > Kendra! 9L satrun is under parivartana with Jupiter in Rasi and > with > > > > Venus in Navamsha. As a result it behaves like a vargottama planet > in > > > > its MT sign (9H). It also occupies its exaltation sign in > Navamsha. > > > Rahu > > > > is conjunct Mars, the planet that rules logic. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Namita Jain namita.saket@ ... > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 3:21:45 PM > > > > > Re: Creativity and Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree every one has some > > > creative > > > > potential in them. And all the houses contribute in a way or > another. > > > > How each house makes a difference is perhaps important to > understand. > > > > You have thrown some light on the subject. > > > > > If time permits please guide me more in this regard. For example > how > > > > can we differentiate the charts of famous scientists from common > > > people. > > > > In this too how can we make out the subject of research. > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards > > > > > namita > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ > > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Namita ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Fifth house, perhaps, is the *generalised hub of creativity*, > if I > > > > may say > > > > > > so. As the house of procreation and progeny, this is where the > > > > essential and > > > > > > ultimate creativity is bestowed. Also, it carries the mandate > of > > > > previous > > > > > > merits, from where the innate potential (creativity) might > arise. > > > > Further, > > > > > > some significations assigned to it like dhi (intelligence) , > > > buddhi > > > > > > (intellect), viveka (discrimination) , vidya (learning), etc., > > > form > > > > a good > > > > > > package for creativity to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > Worldly perceptions and our resultant creative expressions, > > > however, > > > > may not > > > > > > be confined to any one house. An understanding of the elements > of > > > > creativity > > > > > > could help in locating its spread. The houses and signs > provide > > > the > > > > environs > > > > > > to express and unfold, like the *outlets* from where > creativity > > > > emerges! > > > > > > > > > > > > It might have to do with the entire gamut of planetary forces > and > > > > their > > > > > > inter-planetary positioning that one arrives with. It could be > > > this > > > > > > dynamism, supported by dashas, which enlivens the chart. > Everyone > > > is > > > > not > > > > > > born a Vinci or a Picasso, but every individual may be > creative in > > > > some > > > > > > area, in some house! > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas (Moon), often reflecting the soul (Sun), may be where > > > > creativity wells > > > > > > from. Mutable Buddha(i), flanking the lights absorbs and > braces > > > the > > > > idea, > > > > > > thinking or the thought process. Other influences, then pour > their > > > > colours > > > > > > to complete the picture, which is made to adorn some area of > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > An out-of-the-box thinking may be an important element of > > > > creativity, which > > > > > > is also what we need while judging creativity astrologically. > > > > Creativity of > > > > > > ACTION may be different from creativity of FICTION! Wasn't our > > > > toothless > > > > > > Fakir just as creative, if not more, as say Wordsworth? How > about > > > > RAHU > > > > > > throwing his hat into the ring, for that crazy, innovative > streak? > > > > > > > > > > > > Just sharing some random thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, Thank you for your good analysis.I also agree with your analysis and feel it is ketu that changed the whole thing being with 9th lord and also aspected by saturn.Saturn as you said is also aspecting the dispositor of venus.Inturn saturn is aspected by jupiter along with moon. Some how i always feel venus,ketu and jupiter with no other planet in between are controling my destiny.I have observed this combination in a few highly spiritual people. Both jupiter and saturn are in the nakshatra of mars stationed in 12th house(moksha/change) which is my ultimate goal if any.Saturn's influence as 5th lord of sadhana and 6th lord of yoga is unquestionable. As far as marriage is concerned apart from other combinations of no marriage i believe it is again sat in upapada and also at the sametime in 2nd from lagna influencing the lord ofU/P and 2nd with ketu is clinching. Regards, gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Krishna ji, > > I think the word CONTROL comes from the translated dictum.:-) > > Nonetheless, Saturn does greatly influence Venus. Despite the difference in > longitude, Saturn has come with a greater purpose and strength (5L exalted > in 10th from its house). It can even convey effectively from a distance. > Venus is in 10H from Saturn, and its dispositor under check of saturn. And > from Venus, Saturn is also the 7L aspecting venus. In navamsha it is > conjoined the dispositor of venus. If we check the subtle impulses of these > planets (through NL/SL), may be its ketu who connects and delivers! > > Venus, however, would surely try to go out of saturn's hold, being distant > and closer to mars, etc., whenever its dasha/antars arrive. But having been > through the Venus MD before 23 years of age might be one of the discouraging > factors. > > But of course, it is easier said on the hindsight! > > Thanks and Regards > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, this is a real GEM as expected.Thanks a lot.Through out my life i have been feeling the PKY efects.But i am never dejected/depressed may be due2jup in 10th?.... Regards, gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > > Lagnesh mercury rises in exact conjunction with lagna. It forms a nice > Bhadra MPY in lagna and makes you the bhadra purush that you are, but lagna > and lagnesh are with 12L sun besides being in PKY. Any malefic influence > afflicts both lagna-lagnesh. > > Rahu is in exact trine (not good for progeny) from lagna-LL. Lagnesh is > debilitated in lagna in navamsha and navamsha LL is in 8H with 8L. An > exalted venus in navamsh lagna, but it is the 3/8 lord, not good for lagna > giving obstacles and problems. From Moon, moon is also 8L in lagna, aspected > by 3L Saturn (6L from lagna). > > These are some issues which can predispose the chart to challenges in life. > Continuous supportive dashas often lift the chart, which has not happened. > 12L sun with its MD at the prime of life could have given you a difficult > time. In D-10, Moon is LL in 8H, hence not expected to give good results > regarding profession. Mars is 3/8 lord, understandably not encouraging for > virgo lagna in 12H. > > For any extraordinary rise or achievement, there must be a good number of > rajyogas in both d-1 and d-9. Involvement of lagna/lagnesh or moon/moon sign > lord is a must in rajyogas (as in Einstein's chart). This seems to be > missing. > > Saturn is exalted 5L aspecting 9L venus, giving spiritual inclinations and > progress, but Saturn is also 6L which afflicts venus, both its signs, moon > and cancer, which affects the significations of both moon and venus. > > Rahu with its exalted dispositor seems to be a good dasha for spiritual > sadhna etc., but will also bring forth challenging issues from Ra-Ve > onwards. This might test your creativity in handling the situation. > > Thank you for sharing your chart. > > Best Regards > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Gopi ji, Thanks. I guess nature paves the way for us to walk and reach the post assigned or destined! Strong LL Mercury in lagna gets excellent support from its natural friends and the other two legs of dharma tripod, Saturn and Venus, who become Atimitra in panchadha and lift the chart for spiritual progress. Nodes again reveal the close karmic connection of poorva punya and prarabdh and indicate the journey which you will undertake. Vargas fortify these placements. IMHO, and if you do not mind my saying so, what you’ve been denied in the worldly sense, has only helped you progress better on your path. Nature has mercifully removed the bottlenecks! Or was it meant to be? Best Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, you are right. //IMHO, and if you do not mind my saying so, what you've been denied in the worldly sense, has only helped you progress better on your path. Nature has mercifully removed the bottlenecks! Or was it meant to be?// never mind.I feel that i have no mind.This is also corect.My chart operates from lagna only not from moon!From moon i have RY and from lagna PKY.i know somehow the above is corect and also meant to be..... thanks and regards, gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > > Thanks. I guess nature paves the way for us to walk and reach the post > assigned or destined! > > Strong LL Mercury in lagna gets excellent support from its natural friends > and the other two legs of dharma tripod, Saturn and Venus, who become > Atimitra in panchadha and lift the chart for spiritual progress. Nodes again > reveal the close karmic connection of poorva punya and prarabdh and indicate > the journey which you will undertake. Vargas fortify these placements. > > IMHO, and if you do not mind my saying so, what you've been denied in the > worldly sense, has only helped you progress better on your path. Nature has > mercifully removed the bottlenecks! Or was it meant to be? > > Best Regards > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Not sure why but at this point I was reminded of what a childhood friend once shared back in mid-90s. He went on to become a doctor and he shared an experience from his early internship years I believe. It was the first time he was actually performing an invasive procedure which involved entering with a fat needle the space around the spinal chord, the Sushumnaa. On this crucial moment in his life, there was an elder 'brother' who was supportive and a ward-boy who had seen many interns and just kept on encouraging, almost mechanically! There were also a bunch of Juniors who were watching and 'one' of them was kind of special for this budding doctor. Also in addition to this group of brats, sans one of course, was an elder SISTER who knew how hard doctoring is and while mocking and challenging was also supportive and humorous and yet none of the 'acolytes' walked out of that experience with the feeling that they would not be placed in the very same position some day where despite the surrounding ambience -- what saves your performance is what you focus upon and actually manage to do and deliver! Not for yourself, not for the brats, not for the 'cheer-leaders' not for 'her' you were trying to impress, BUT the ONE that you are performing your first 'procedure' upon! The NATIVITY! If you 'get' that, you will be okay and will never do no harm! |||||||||||||||||||||| I think my childhood friend taught me a lot, about practical Jyotish through his much more exciting and in many ways a much more important and vital experience! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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