Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Namskarm Swee ji Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( brain motor nerve) problem … see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha 12th lord placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord … Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem started in beginning of 2005 .. same can be judged from naryana dasa meena dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the result where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will not be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will create problem for some more time…. RegardAmit puriOn 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear List, Namaste A Baffling case that requires your inputs: Male DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) TOB 20:27 Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... I'm all ears. love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional with his muscles which was affirmative. For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to bring some form of cure. In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May 08. Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm Swee ji > > > >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha 12thlord > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the result >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will not >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. > >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will >create problem for some more time?. >Regard > >Amit puri > >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear List, >> Namaste >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> Male >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> TOB 20:27 >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Namskarm swee ji Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me ………..as your command on this subject is great ….. that is why I touch this mail to learn something from you.. As you said the about Saturn antra ……. Even I was finding the reason why Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found that sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention …as this is not part of our teaching…any way As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I think) for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is shukra which is badhakesha ………if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve ...Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? regardOn 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional with his muscles which was affirmative. For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to bring some form of cure. In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May 08. Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm Swee ji > > > >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha 12thlord > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the result >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will not >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. > >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will >create problem for some more time?. >Regard > >Amit puri > >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear List, >> Namaste >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> Male >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> TOB 20:27 >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. As for badhakesh Shukra: The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani mantra. Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. Material/physical help: Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to protect his bhakta. Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in Jyotish Digest. ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm swee ji > >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch this >mail to learn something from you.. > >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found that >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of our >teaching?any way > >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I think) >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >regard > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> bring some form of cure. >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May >> 08. >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> > >> > >> > >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> 12thlord >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> result >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> not >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> > >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it >> will >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >Regard >> > >> >Amit puri >> > >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> Male >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> his >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to >> be >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> Beethoven, >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Dear Swee, Amit, Thank you for inspiring astroanalysis- I just want to add some info here- Swee seems to consider muscular problems in this case, not neurological ones.In psy-diagnostic is well known that jerking facial muscles accompany difficult illnesses, psychosis, border-line personality disorder, etc. Involuntary movements happen because of the lack of neurological control, so simpatical nervous system /controls 'body language'- iris, involuntary movements, reflexes.../ takes over /instead para-sympatical. Anti-psychotic therapy usually helps- very OFTEN no neurological defect can be detected, Sometimes it seems that 'physical problems- like muscles' control,serve the purpose to protect individual's "sanity". Secondly, I would consider this Rahu-related dysfunction, illness difficult to diagnose,or poisoning that's difficult to diagnose /a year ago I experienced tremor of my hands for a week, which disappeared when I decided to stop using medication/Ventolin/- my instinct led me to my Rahu in 8th, Aq, which may manifest as false-neurological disorder, related to hard-to-diagnose- poisoning. I've always been aware of that fact that chemical medication-cures is not good for me, I avoid using any drug and believe in natural medicine and prayers- almost exclusivelly- there is a joke among my friends, that I am in perfect health, since I use only prayers as a cure! I could easily recognize Rahu influence in this /not-just/ a joke. Following my track, my doctor almost immediately found out that medication I was using for bronchitis is long past expiry date, thus poisonous, by definition. And I was really feeling like being poisoned/allergic, etc.. My guess is that Rahu can disturb normal /by majority-standards/ drug-tolerance, as well, so I would try pancha-karma therapy to clean the body tissues, thus making them less vulnerable to potentially harmful agents: drugs, even aspirin etc.. Hope this helps. Regards, Anna JAYA JAGANNATHADear Amit,NamasteThank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's traversal in gandanta 0 degrees.Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional with his muscles which was affirmative.For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as "mother" is sure to bring some form of cure.In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May 08.Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a "hammering" - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone?The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa.I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both "Gurus." The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the reason why the matron has asked "people like us" to help ) love,SweeOn Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, "Amit Puri" <amitpuri20 > wrote:>Namskarm Swee ji>>>>Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem (>brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa>which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha 12thlord> placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head>area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ?>Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem>started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena>dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the result>where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is>placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will not>be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily..>>in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on>peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some>mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will>create problem for some more time?.>Regard>>Amit puri>>On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote:>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha>>>> Dear List,>> Namaste>>>> A Baffling case that requires your inputs:>> Male>> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar)>> TOB 20:27>> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54>>>> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his>> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be>> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have>> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven,>> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate...>>>> I'm all ears.>>>> love,>>>> Swee>> >>> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional with his muscles which was affirmative. For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to bring some form of cure. In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May 08. Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm Swee ji > > > >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha 12thlord > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the result >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will not >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. > >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will >create problem for some more time?. >Regard > >Amit puri > >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear List, >> Namaste >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> Male >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> TOB 20:27 >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. As for badhakesh Shukra: The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani mantra. Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. Material/physical help: Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to protect his bhakta. Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in Jyotish Digest. ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm swee ji > >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch this >mail to learn something from you.. > >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found that >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of our >teaching?any way > >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I think) >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >regard > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> bring some form of cure. >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May >> 08. >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> > >> > >> > >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> 12thlord >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> result >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> not >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> > >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it >> will >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >Regard >> > >> >Amit puri >> > >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> Male >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> his >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to >> be >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> Beethoven, >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Namskaram Swee ji First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this case ………these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and karmaphala… again thanks… Please consider my one sincere advice……….. Write book on Gems therapy and specially your practical experience with it.. Regard On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA Dear Amit, Namaste Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. As for badhakesh Shukra: The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani mantra. Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. Material/physical help: Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to protect his bhakta. Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in Jyotish Digest. ) love, Swee On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskarm swee ji > >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch this >mail to learn something from you.. > >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found that >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of our >teaching?any way > >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I think) >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >regard > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - Saturn's >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the planet >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari Ve/Sa >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn in >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - isn't >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been dysfunctional >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> bring some form of cure. >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place during >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) should >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 May >> 08. >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and Jupiter >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is the >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20% 40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> > >> > >> > >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem ( >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> 12thlord >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows head >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord ? >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think problem >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa meena >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> result >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada is >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> not >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> > >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it >> will >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >Regard >> > >> >Amit puri >> > >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> Male >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> his >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to >> be >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> Beethoven, >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Dear Swee, This is indeed a case which is strange at first glance. If we look at the chart, we see that it has a Shasha yoga, 3rd lord going to 6th causing raj yoga, and Mars the yogakaraka occupying the trine causing other raj yoga. We also see Jupiter a trine lord conjoining Moon the lagna lord in Dhana bhava indicating another raj yoga. So far so good. But we also see that Moon the lagnesha is conjunct Mandi and the 5th lord Mars is conjunct Mandipati Sun and conjunct Gulika. Further what I can make out here is that Mercury who rules nerves occupies the 6th bhava and is afflicted by Rahu leading to the diagnosis being difficult to make as rahu has the capacity of creating a smoke screen. The 6th lord Jupiter (he is also that, besides being the 9th lord) is also conjunct Mandi. So there do appear to be health problems to the jataka and nervous system could get affected. We also see the 11th lord (^th from 6th) Venus with Kendraadhipati dosha occupying the 3rd bhava (8th from 8th) in debility. Needless o say that dispositor of Venus is in the 6th. Now we look at Navamsha and find that Venus and Jupiter are afflicted by conjunction with Mandi and Rahu. Mercury occupies the rasi of an enemy but is in kendra and so not very weak. We also see sun the Mandipati in Rasi chart being in debility and afflicted by Gulika in the navamsha. Then we observe that the 8th lord Saturn goes to 6th bhava of the navamsha chart and is afflicted by conjunction with Ketu. We know that Saturn also rules over tendons etc. So there is a possibility of health problems that could be related to nervous system and difficult to diagnose. The time when the problem was severe (17th July 2007) also shows these connections as the dasha running is Venus -Mercury -Saturn -Mercury - Sun (360 Savana days dasha year). I am not a medical person but would say that the reason for the ailment has perhaps to do something with fat levels and fluid in the region of neck, perhaps in the spinal column (2nd Dreshkaana/ Jupiter- Moon aspecting the 8th and Venus in the 3rd). Of course I could be off by a mile. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear List, Namaste A Baffling case that requires your inputs: Male DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) TOB 20:27 Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... I'm all ears. love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Om Guruve Namah Respected Jyotishas There have been very interesting analysis done in this thread and most of it was beyond my bandwidth. A couple of basic comments though that I would like to present:- 1. The 6th lord is Ju and he is placed in the 2nd house. As Sanjay Ji teaches that we need to see the rashi of the 8th lord and the house of the 6th lord. That can justify the problem arising in the facial region. Mercury(Nervous) is also there afflicted with Ra. 2. Since the lagna is in Venusian Amsa we should Dwadasottari Dasa for this native and there we can see that the native had been running Ju mahadasa from the last 10 years till 2006. The native ran Ju-mo in 2004 sept. 3. From the Yuti principle of Guru ji Mo will give Ju results in the AD so we get full result of the 6th lord Ju in that period. 4. On July 17 with the entry of Saturn into this Rasi where the 6th lord is placed the situation has got worse. So i think the remedy would be somewhere with Ju dont you think? Just my humble opinion. Amit ji// that reference above is from the lecture of Sanjay ji where he discusses that we should not eat stuff signified by the planets in the 8th house... ;-) Regards Tarun Garg sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear List, > Namaste > > A Baffling case that requires your inputs: > Male > DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) > TOB 20:27 > Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 > > 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... > > I'm all ears. > > love, > > Swee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Guruvi and list, Hare Krishna I took a shot at this case by asking the Ascended Masters for help. The message i received was that situation involves a teacher or "Guru" . There is an important lesson to be learned with this case- perhaps a new medical discovery. A proffesor of medicine may be able to provide answers for this problem or maybe a very senior Guru - Or maybe the planet Guru may be able to help. One way or the other- this situation is linked to a teacher of some sort. Please forgive my ignorance or my ramblings. Just wanted to see if this information may be able to help. Hare Krishna BivashSwee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear List,NamasteA Baffling case that requires your inputs:MaleDOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar)TOB 20:27 Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W543 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating his own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had to be admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they have found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play Beethoven, Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate...I'm all ears.love,Swee Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Amit et al, Namaste Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. love, Swee On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskaram Swee ji > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and >karmaphala? again thanks? > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and >specially your practical experience with it.. > >Regard > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. >> >> As for badhakesh Shukra: >> >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani >> mantra. >> >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: >> >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. >> >> Material/physical help: >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to >> protect his bhakta. >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? >> >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in >> Jyotish Digest. ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm swee ji >> > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch >> this >> >mail to learn something from you.. >> > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found >> that >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of >> our >> >teaching?any way >> > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I >> think) >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >> >regard >> > >> > >> > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> >> >> Dear Amit, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - >> Saturn's >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the >> planet >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari >> Ve/Sa >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn >> in >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the >> co-lords >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - >> isn't >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been >> dysfunctional >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> >> bring some form of cure. >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place >> during >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) >> should >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 >> May >> >> 08. >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and >> Jupiter >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is >> the >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " < >> amitpuri20 <amitpuri20%40gmail.com><amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem >> ( >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> >> 12thlord >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows >> head >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord >> ? >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think >> problem >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa >> meena >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> >> result >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada >> is >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> >> not >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> >> > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also >> on >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal >> it >> >> will >> >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >> >Regard >> >> > >> >> >Amit puri >> >> > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com><sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> >> Male >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> >> his >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had >> to >> >> be >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they >> have >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> >> Beethoven, >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sarajitji, So, here we have another example, Ma is Maheshvara, person passed away in Thula MD (brahma-dasa). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Swee Chan napisał(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Amit et al, Namaste Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. love, Swee On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, "Amit Puri" <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: >Namskaram Swee ji > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and >karmaphala? again thanks? > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and >specially your practical experience with it.. > >Regard > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. >> >> As for badhakesh Shukra: >> >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani >> mantra. >> >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: >> >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa "for Ma's" favourable sideward glance. >> >> Material/physical help: >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to >> protect his bhakta. >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? >> >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in >> Jyotish Digest. ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, "Amit Puri" <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com<amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> > >> wrote: >> >Namskarm swee ji >> > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch >> this >> >mail to learn something from you.. >> > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? ......then I found >> that >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of >> our >> >teaching?any way >> > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I >> think) >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha.. ??? >> >regard >> > >> > >> > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac. com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> >> >> Dear Amit, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - >> Saturn's >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the >> planet >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari >> Ve/Sa >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn >> in >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the >> co-lords >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - >> isn't >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been >> dysfunctional >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as "mother" is sure to >> >> bring some form of cure. >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place >> during >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) >> should >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 >> May >> >> 08. >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> >> "hammering" - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and >> Jupiter >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both "Gurus." >> >> >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is >> the >> >> reason why the matron has asked "people like us" to help ) >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, "Amit Puri" < >> amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> <amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem >> ( >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> >> 12thlord >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows >> head >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord >> ? >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think >> problem >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa >> meena >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> >> result >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada >> is >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> >> not >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> >> > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also >> on >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal >> it >> >> will >> >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >> >Regard >> >> > >> >> >Amit puri >> >> > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac. com><sweechan% 40mac.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> >> Male >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> >> his >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had >> to >> >> be >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they >> have >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> >> Beethoven, >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate. .. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Yeah, and Swee do not forget to incorporate my case in your gems book--in spite of Saturn being Yogkarka in my chart from every angle, Blue Sapphire doesnot suit me. manoj --- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Amit et al, > Namaste > > Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. > > I wish to inform all who've participated that young > Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. > > love, > > Swee > > > On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " > <amitpuri20 wrote: > >Namskaram Swee ji > > > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and > thanks for discussing this > >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand > the play of karma and > >karmaphala? again thanks? > > > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write > book on Gems therapy and > >specially your practical experience with it.. > > > >Regard > > > > > > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > >> > >> > >> JAYA JAGANNATHA > >> > >> Dear Amit, > >> Namaste > >> > >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... > but place importance in the > >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, > lagna nakshatra lord is > >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and > Mars. Not a good start is > >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor > the Surya and Mangal. > >> > >> As for badhakesh Shukra: > >> > >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani > mantra by Lord Shiva was > >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed > the Ruby Linga. After > >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He > decided to give the sanjivani > >> mantra. > >> > >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: > >> > >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable > sideward glance. > >> > >> Material/physical help: > >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen > with a sphatik mala to > >> protect his bhakta. > >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the > Dakshinamurti form was seen > >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? > >> > >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by > different celstial and non > >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look > out for my new article in > >> Jyotish Digest. ) > >> > >> love, > >> > >> Swee > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit > Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> > >> wrote: > >> >Namskarm swee ji > >> > > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are > always adorable for me > >> >???..as your command on this subject is great > ?.. that is why I touch > >> this > >> >mail to learn something from you.. > >> > > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I > was finding the reason why > >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health > problem ? .....then I found > >> that > >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub > lord is Venus which is > >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention > ?as this is not part of > >> our > >> >teaching?any way > >> > > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is > best remedy (the way I > >> think) > >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra > nakshtra and even sub lord is > >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya > blessed .. he will improve > >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for > vargotmma badhakesha..??? > >> >regard > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan > <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA > >> >> > >> >> Dear Amit, > >> >> Namaste > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began > almost 3 years ago...which I'd > >> >> intuitively given including the date of > admission to hospital - > >> Saturn's > >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. > >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is > Saturn, in rasi, it is the > >> planet > >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and > Rahu. Hence, vimsottari > >> Ve/Sa > >> >> period should indicate something to do with > his physical body (Saturn > >> in > >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). > Saturn and Rahu are the > >> co-lords > >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular > problems and not nervine - > >> isn't > >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's > always been > >> dysfunctional > >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. > >> >> > >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from > Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to > >> >> bring some form of cure. > >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins > with AK, Rahu and in direct > >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and > Ketu). Birth took place > >> during > >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru > (as he is the weakest) > >> should > >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa > Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 > >> May > >> >> 08. > >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn > and Saturn gets more of a > >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is > a better choice. Anyone? > >> >> > >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so > his problem is very deep > >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and > navamsa. > >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra > tomorrow so that Mathew can > >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon > exalts in Venus' sign and > >> Jupiter > >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both > " Gurus. " > >> >> > >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to > decipher the problem, so what > >> >> makes you say that the problem will be > dicovered soon by them? This is > >> the > >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like > us " to help ) > >> >> > >> >> love, > >> >> > >> >> Swee > >> >> > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Amit et al, Namaste Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. love, Swee On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskaram Swee ji > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and >karmaphala? again thanks? > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and >specially your practical experience with it.. > >Regard > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. >> >> As for badhakesh Shukra: >> >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani >> mantra. >> >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: >> >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. >> >> Material/physical help: >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to >> protect his bhakta. >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? >> >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in >> Jyotish Digest. ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm swee ji >> > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch >> this >> >mail to learn something from you.. >> > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found >> that >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of >> our >> >teaching?any way >> > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I >> think) >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >> >regard >> > >> > >> > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> >> >> Dear Amit, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - >> Saturn's >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the >> planet >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari >> Ve/Sa >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn >> in >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the >> co-lords >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - >> isn't >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been >> dysfunctional >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> >> bring some form of cure. >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place >> during >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) >> should >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 >> May >> >> 08. >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and >> Jupiter >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is >> the >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " < >> amitpuri20 <amitpuri20%40gmail.com><amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem >> ( >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> >> 12thlord >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows >> head >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord >> ? >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think >> problem >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa >> meena >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> >> result >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada >> is >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> >> not >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> >> > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also >> on >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal >> it >> >> will >> >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >> >Regard >> >> > >> >> >Amit puri >> >> > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com><sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> >> Male >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> >> his >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had >> to >> >> be >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they >> have >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> >> Beethoven, >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Parnam Swee jiOh so said news ... and it also bad on our part......... Disease is on its peak as i mentioned in my first mail " prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also on peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal it will create problem for some more time " …. even then i didnt work on life this is very bad on my part will keep in mind for future..regard Amit puriOn 02/08/07, Swee Chan < sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Amit et al, Namaste Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. love, Swee On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: >Namskaram Swee ji > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and >karmaphala? again thanks? > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and >specially your practical experience with it.. > >Regard > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. >> >> As for badhakesh Shukra: >> >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani >> mantra. >> >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: >> >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. >> >> Material/physical help: >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to >> protect his bhakta. >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? >> >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in >> Jyotish Digest. ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20% 40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >Namskarm swee ji >> > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch >> this >> >mail to learn something from you.. >> > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found >> that >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of >> our >> >teaching?any way >> > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I >> think) >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? >> >regard >> > >> > >> > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> >> >> Dear Amit, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - >> Saturn's >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the >> planet >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari >> Ve/Sa >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn >> in >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the >> co-lords >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - >> isn't >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been >> dysfunctional >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> >> bring some form of cure. >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place >> during >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) >> should >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 >> May >> >> 08. >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and >> Jupiter >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is >> the >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " < >> amitpuri20 <amitpuri20% 40gmail.com><amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem >> ( >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> >> 12thlord >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows >> head >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord >> ? >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think >> problem >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa >> meena >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> >> result >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada >> is >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> >> not >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> >> > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also >> on >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal >> it >> >> will >> >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >> >Regard >> >> > >> >> >Amit puri >> >> > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com><sweechan% 40mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> >> Male >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> >> his >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had >> to >> >> be >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they >> have >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> >> Beethoven, >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rafal, How did you get Tula Dasa? I am getting Kumbha! Best Wishes Sarajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:53 PM sohamsa Re: A Baffling Case hraum namah adityaya Dear Sarajitji, So, here we have another example, Ma is Maheshvara, person passed away in Thula MD (brahma-dasa). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Swee Chan napisa³(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Amit et al, Namaste Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. love, Swee On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: >Namskaram Swee ji > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and >karmaphala? again thanks? > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and >specially your practical experience with it.. > >Regard > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> Dear Amit, >> Namaste >> >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. >> >> As for badhakesh Shukra: >> >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani >> mantra. >> >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: >> >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. >> >> Material/physical help: >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to >> protect his bhakta. >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? >> >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in >> Jyotish Digest. ) >> >> love, >> >> Swee >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com<amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> > >> wrote: >> >Namskarm swee ji >> > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch >> this >> >mail to learn something from you.. >> > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found >> that >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of >> our >> >teaching?any way >> > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I >> think) >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha.. ??? >> >regard >> > >> > >> > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac. com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA >> >> >> >> Dear Amit, >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - >> Saturn's >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the >> planet >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari >> Ve/Sa >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn >> in >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the >> co-lords >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - >> isn't >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been >> dysfunctional >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. >> >> >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to >> >> bring some form of cure. >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place >> during >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) >> should >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 >> May >> >> 08. >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? >> >> >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and >> Jupiter >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " >> >> >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is >> the >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " < >> amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> <amitpuri20% 40gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem >> ( >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha >> >> 12thlord >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows >> head >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord >> ? >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think >> problem >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa >> meena >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the >> >> result >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada >> is >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will >> >> not >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. >> >> > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also >> on >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal >> it >> >> will >> >> >create problem for some more time?. >> >> >Regard >> >> > >> >> >Amit puri >> >> > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com <sweechan%40mac. com><sweechan% 40mac.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear List, >> >> >> Namaste >> >> >> >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: >> >> >> Male >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) >> >> >> TOB 20:27 >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating >> >> his >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had >> to >> >> be >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they >> have >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play >> >> Beethoven, >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate. .. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm all ears. >> >> >> >> >> >> love, >> >> >> >> >> >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Swee, Do yuu know the death-diagnosis/major stroke, hoemorraghe,/ Thanks, Anna sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Amit et al, > Namaste > > Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. > > I wish to inform all who've participated that young Mathew passed away at 1:23am, Krishna Cathurthi. > > love, > > Swee > > > On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 09:19AM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: > >Namskaram Swee ji > > > >First of all parnam to you on Guru purinima and thanks for discussing this > >case ???these kind of cases help me to understand the play of karma and > >karmaphala? again thanks? > > > >Please consider my one sincere advice???.. Write book on Gems therapy and > >specially your practical experience with it.. > > > >Regard > > > > > > > > > >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > >> > >> > >> JAYA JAGANNATHA > >> > >> Dear Amit, > >> Namaste > >> > >> Of course, nakshatra's part of our teaching... but place importance in the > >> lordship itself and not the sub lords. This said, lagna nakshatra lord is > >> also Shani; Shani on lagna, presides over Sun and Mars. Not a good start is > >> it when Shani is not friendly with lagna lord nor the Surya and Mangal. > >> > >> As for badhakesh Shukra: > >> > >> The reason why Shukra was given the Sanjivani mantra by Lord Shiva was > >> because, in a previous life, Shukra had installed the Ruby Linga. After > >> Shukra's eulogy which please Lord Shiva, He decided to give the sanjivani > >> mantra. > >> > >> Cure to illness due to deep-rooted cause: > >> > >> Look at 4th from Karakamsa " for Ma's " favourable sideward glance. > >> > >> Material/physical help: > >> Sphatik Mala: Lord Narayana's appearance, seen with a sphatik mala to > >> protect his bhakta. > >> Pearl Mala: Lord Shiva's appearance in the Dakshinamurti form was seen > >> with the Pearl mala.... any more, anyone? > >> > >> There's an extended list of lingas installed by different celstial and non > >> celestial forms, yaksha and rishis. Have a look out for my new article in > >> Jyotish Digest. ) > >> > >> love, > >> > >> Swee > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 04:19PM, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20<amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> > >> wrote: > >> >Namskarm swee ji > >> > > >> >Excellent .........Thanks for your mail you are always adorable for me > >> >???..as your command on this subject is great ?.. that is why I touch > >> this > >> >mail to learn something from you.. > >> > > >> >As you said the about Saturn antra ??. Even I was finding the reason why > >> >Venus/Saturn (in own sign) started health problem ? .....then I found > >> that > >> >sshani in nasktra of sun neecha in navmsnh sub lord is Venus which is > >> >badhkesha ..Enough reason for me didn't mention ?as this is not part of > >> our > >> >teaching?any way > >> > > >> >As far as mirtunjay mantra is consrnd this is best remedy (the way I > >> think) > >> >for the native as the chander is in shukra nakshtra and even sub lord is > >> >shukra which is badhakesha ???if shukraachrya blessed .. he will improve > >> >..Which is quite tough..why not some remedy for vargotmma badhakesha..??? > >> >regard > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On 28/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> JAYA JAGANNATHA > >> >> > >> >> Dear Amit, > >> >> Namaste > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for your inputs. Problem began almost 3 years ago...which I'd > >> >> intuitively given including the date of admission to hospital - > >> Saturn's > >> >> traversal in gandanta 0 degrees. > >> >> Sifting through the dasas, moola dasa is Saturn, in rasi, it is the > >> planet > >> >> which gets virodhargala from AK Venus, MeR and Rahu. Hence, vimsottari > >> Ve/Sa > >> >> period should indicate something to do with his physical body (Saturn > >> in > >> >> 7th, 7th being natural house of muladhara). Saturn and Rahu are the > >> co-lords > >> >> of 8th - Saturn should indicate muscular problems and not nervine - > >> isn't > >> >> this to do with Mercury? I hence asked if he's always been > >> dysfunctional > >> >> with his muscles which was affirmative. > >> >> > >> >> For shakti sthana, we look at 4th from Karakamsa as " mother " is sure to > >> >> bring some form of cure. > >> >> In navamsa, 4th from karakamsa lord cojoins with AK, Rahu and in direct > >> >> drishti and rasi drishti with Saturn (and Ketu). Birth took place > >> during > >> >> Krishna paksha, so the mantra indicating Guru (as he is the weakest) > >> should > >> >> be chanted during its dasa - moola dasa Saturn/Jupiter 6th Nov 05 - 19 > >> May > >> >> 08. > >> >> Taking the 4th from svamsa, it is Capricorn and Saturn gets more of a > >> >> " hammering " - perhaps obeisance to Mahakali is a better choice. Anyone? > >> >> > >> >> The 8th lord from Navamsa is also deb. AK, so his problem is very deep > >> >> rooted....and is lord Gulika in both rasi and navamsa. > >> >> I will be sending the mahamrytujaya mantra tomorrow so that Mathew can > >> >> begin listening to it from Monday - Moon exalts in Venus' sign and > >> Jupiter > >> >> exalts in Moon's sign - good day for both " Gurus. " > >> >> > >> >> The doctors have taken almost 3 years to decipher the problem, so what > >> >> makes you say that the problem will be dicovered soon by them? This is > >> the > >> >> reason why the matron has asked " people like us " to help ) > >> >> > >> >> love, > >> >> > >> >> Swee > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Saturday, July 28, 2007, at 03:41AM, " Amit Puri " < > >> amitpuri20 <amitpuri20%40gmail.com><amitpuri20%40gmail.com>> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >Namskarm Swee ji > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Just touching your question to start discussion on it.. nerve problem > >> ( > >> >> >brain motor nerve) problem ? see the badhkesh shashukra vargottma Dasa > >> >> >which is Ak in 12th house of navmansh is going on and Antra of budha > >> >> 12thlord > >> >> > placed in 6th from lagna with 8th lord rahu in amsha of Mesha shows > >> head > >> >> >area for roga hemmed between mars and Saturn and 4th from M.dasa lord > >> ? > >> >> >Shukra don't like anything 4th from it when operating .. I think > >> problem > >> >> >started in beginning of 2005 . same can be judged from naryana dasa > >> meena > >> >> >dasa is going on ..dasa started from 7th house so Kanya will tell the > >> >> result > >> >> >where neecha shukra is placed and the antra of mesha where roga pada > >> is > >> >> >placed for right now .. in D6 and d30 tridoshik dosha so the cure will > >> >> not > >> >> >be easy.. more badkesha dasa will not allow to cure easily.. > >> >> > > >> >> >in prashna chakra I found doctor are capable and the diseases is also > >> on > >> >> >peak level for right now but the diseases lord with ketu showing some > >> >> >mistake in diagnose as shukra is retro now which badhkesha for natal > >> it > >> >> will > >> >> >create problem for some more time?. > >> >> >Regard > >> >> > > >> >> >Amit puri > >> >> > > >> >> >On 27/07/07, Swee Chan <sweechan <sweechan% 40mac.com><sweechan%40mac.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Dear List, > >> >> >> Namaste > >> >> >> > >> >> >> A Baffling case that requires your inputs: > >> >> >> Male > >> >> >> DOB 28Nov1991 (Guru vaar) > >> >> >> TOB 20:27 > >> >> >> Chester, UK : 53N12; 2W54 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 3 years ago, he started making jerking movements and kept on beating > >> >> his > >> >> >> own head/mouth region....and on 17th July 2007, it got so bad he had > >> to > >> >> be > >> >> >> admitted into hospital. The doctors are completely baffled as they > >> have > >> >> >> found nothing to be wrong with him. The matron has tried to play > >> >> Beethoven, > >> >> >> Mozart to to soothe him so that he may begin to communicate... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm all ears. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> love, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Swee > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.