Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee and Kishore, I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope not me! I have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika lagna. Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna muhurta? I think none of us do. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear Swee, Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should have 7th shuddhi. Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i have pointed out in the past several times. I give the marriage about 8 months time Kishore patnaik On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Gaurav,NamasteFor a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and not the Sun nor the Moon :)Love,Swee <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>< >Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)< >Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bipin, You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is karnapischachini)among many others. In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are assured. We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in future to come.. I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I wish them all the best for the future.. Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, bipinprag writes: ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear SweeHare KrishnaWith the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.Best wishes BipinSource: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html <http://www.news24.com/> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee and Kishore, I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope not me! I have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika lagna. Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna muhurta? I think none of us do. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear Swee, Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should have 7th shuddhi. Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i have pointed out in the past several times. I give the marriage about 8 months time Kishore patnaik On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Gaurav,NamasteFor a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and not the Sun nor the Moon :)Love,Swee <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>< >Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)< >Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bipin, You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is karnapischachini)among many others. In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are assured. We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in future to come.. I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I wish them all the best for the future.. Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, bipinprag writes: ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear SweeHare KrishnaWith the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.Best wishes BipinSource: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html <http://www.news24.com/> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Namaste SarbanijiI agree with your golden rules as far as lagna shuddhi goes. What I have learnt is that:In the marriage lagna:Graha where it should NOT beSun 1,7Moon in 1, 6,7,8Mars in 1,7,8,10 Mercury in 7,8Jupiter in 7,8Venus in 3,6,7,8Saturn in 1,7,12Rahu-Ketu in 1,7,8and the marriage lagna lord in 6,8 Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/21/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee and Kishore, I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope not me! I have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika lagna. Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna muhurta? I think none of us do. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear Swee, Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should have 7th shuddhi. Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i have pointed out in the past several times. I give the marriage about 8 months time Kishore patnaik On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Gaurav,NamasteFor a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and not the Sun nor the Moon :)Love,Swee <yobrevol< >Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)< > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bipin, You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is karnapischachini)among many others. In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are assured. We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in future to come.. I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I wish them all the best for the future.. Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, bipinprag writes: ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear SweeHare KrishnaWith the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.Best wishes BipinSource: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html <http://www.news24.com/> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Hi Bipin, Just saw your mail. See my posts to Gaurav. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com Bipin Prag [bipinprag] Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear SweeHare KrishnaWith the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart.News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.Best wishes BipinSource: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Ha ha, it’s so funny. Kishore must mean the current trend in the expression “of late” ) Thanks for extras. Love, Swee Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani Organization: Sri Jagannath Centre Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:59:50 +0530 Cc: <sohamsa > RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee and Kishore, I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope not me! I have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika lagna. Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna muhurta? I think none of us do. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear Swee, Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should have 7th shuddhi. Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i have pointed out in the past several times. I give the marriage about 8 months time Kishore patnaik On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and not the Sun nor the Moon Love, Swee <yobrevol < <http://ups.com/> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) < <http://ups.com/> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bipin, You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is karnapischachini)among many others. In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are assured. We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in future to come.. I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I wish them all the best for the future.. Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, bipinprag writes: ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| Dear Swee Hare Krishna With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. Best wishes Bipin Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> <http://www.news24.com/> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very different panchanga being used. Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of wedding as planned. At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have taken place just after 6:30 pm. So lagna is indeed Libra. Hari sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Swee and Kishore, > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope not me! I > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika > lagna. > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > Dear Swee, > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should > have 7th shuddhi. > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i > have pointed out in the past several times. > > I give the marriage about 8 months time > > Kishore patnaik > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan com> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Gaurav, > Namaste > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and > not the Sun nor the Moon > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > _____ > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol com> > < <http://ups.com/> > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > < <http://ups.com/> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah > > Namaste Bipin, > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in- law of the > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is > karnapischachini)among many others. > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are > assured. > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in > future to come.. > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I > wish them all the best for the future.. > > Gaurav > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag com writes: > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > Dear Swee > Hare Krishna > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify > this. > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. > > Best wishes > > Bipin > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday > with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24. > <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- 2108_21024 > 01,00.html> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html > <http://www.news24.com/> <http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > _____ > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/? ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com astroblogg [astroblogg] Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very different panchanga being used.Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of wedding as planned.At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have taken place just after 6:30 pm.So lagna is indeed Libra.Harisohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope not me! I> have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO> planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden> rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to> have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should> not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are> we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either> Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage> muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their> point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in> lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels.> The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual> ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika> lagna.> > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing> for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna> muhurta? I think none of us do. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > Dear Swee, > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should> have 7th shuddhi. > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont> think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i> have pointed out in the past several times. > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > Kishore patnaik > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan com> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Gaurav,> Namaste> > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and> not the Sun nor the Moon > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > _____ > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol com>> < <http://ups.com/> >> Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> < <http://ups.com/> >> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > Namaste Bipin,> > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the> now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> karnapischachini)among many others. > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the> press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and> moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are> assured. > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more> and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the> chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in> 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and> maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated> MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu> and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a> very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow> and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of> father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in> future to come.. > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident> above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I> wish them all the best for the future..> > Gaurav> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag com writes:> > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > Dear Swee> Hare Krishna> > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news> everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday> 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify> this. > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should> not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed> in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage.> > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which> of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was> when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in> Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama.> Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these> 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > Best wishes > > Bipin> > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday> with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_21024> 01,00.html>> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> <http://www.news24.com/> <http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra. I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers were given free reign to choose any date in the year. Also note the wedding time was around sunset. But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha. Hari sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official > time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would > have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were > consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had > priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a > bit intrigued about the muhurta. > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM > sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used. > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned. > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm. > > So lagna is indeed Libra. > > Hari > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40> .com, " Sarbani > Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > wrote: > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore, > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope > not me! I > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels. > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika > > lagna. > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani. > <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > @gro <%40> ups.com > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > Namaste > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com> > > <@gro <% 40> > ups.com <http://ups.com/> > > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > > <@gro <%40> ups.com > <http://ups.com/> > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah > > > > Namaste Bipin, > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in- > law of the > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are > > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in > > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I > > wish them all the best for the future.. > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes: > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > > > Dear Swee > > Hare Krishna > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify > > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage. > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama. > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin > > > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday > > with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24. > > <http://www.news24. > <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- > 2108_21024 > > 01,00.html> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- 2108_2102401,00.html > > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> <http://www.news24. > <http://www.news24.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/? > com/? > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 oh me, Sarbanii, I certainly dont know how you fix muhurthas so i have not meant you or any one else on the group. Whenever I get a wedding card, I immediately look at the muhurat's balam and see how good or bad it is. Of course, the parents would indeed ask me how the muhurat is and i have no other go to tell them the positive aspects- which certainly the pundits must have told them before. However, sometimes i do suggest some remedies which thankfully, were found to be effective and the problems encountered could be successfully solved. Hence, it is from this experience that I have learnt that people are ignoring saptama shuddhi. Hope I am clear,kishore patnaik On 4/22/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Ha ha, it's so funny. Kishore must mean the current trend in the expression "of late" ) Thanks for extras. Love, Swee Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> Organization: Sri Jagannath Centre Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:59:50 +0530 Cc: <sohamsa > RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee and Kishore, I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope not me! I have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels. The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika lagna. Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna muhurta? I think none of us do. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> kishore patnaik [ kishorepatnaik09] Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear Swee, Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should have 7th shuddhi. Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i have pointed out in the past several times. I give the marriage about 8 months time Kishore patnaik On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and not the Sun nor the Moon Love, Swee <yobrevol < <http://ups.com/> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) < <http://ups.com/> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Aum Durgayai Namah Namaste Bipin, You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is karnapischachini)among many others. In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are assured. We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in future to come.. I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I wish them all the best for the future.. Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, bipinprag writes: ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| Dear Swee Hare Krishna With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify this. Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage. Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama. Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. Best wishes Bipin Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> <http://www.news24.com/> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear friends, Knowing of hindu marriages I don't think time is 1830.My friends marriage took more then 3 hours.I know it because I was one of the few persons who sat through the marriage from midnight to about 3 am.To me it seems to be closer to 2153 which will give a vorgotam scorpio lagna.Rest we will know as the future unfolds. Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 If you are taking the lagna as Venusian lagna on a friday, the muhurat seems to be very bleak from the traditional point of view. But since it seems to be more of a convenient marriage of sorts, the stress seems to be on the dhana yogas rather than on the marital happiness. I know someone who personally knows the Bachan's personal astrologer. You would have noticed that Bachan was sick for last sometime and this was since he was wearing a blue neelam. He was advised to wear it for prosperity but bad health. Kishore patnaik You would notice that jupiter is in 2nd On 4/22/07, jagmeet s dheendsa <jsdheendsa wrote: Dear friends,Knowing of hindu marriages I don't think time is 1830.My friends marriagetook more then 3 hours.I know it because I was one of the few persons whosat through the marriage from midnight to about 3 am.To me it seems to becloser to 2153 which will give a vorgotam scorpio lagna.Rest we will knowas the future unfolds.Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Jagmeet, Nowadays Indian marriages are of varying times depending on individuals. The abhiash ceremonies were for one hour. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com jagmeet s dheendsa [jsdheendsa] Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:12 PMsohamsa Cc: sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Dear friends,Knowing of hindu marriages I don't think time is 1830.My friends marriagetook more then 3 hours.I know it because I was one of the few persons whosat through the marriage from midnight to about 3 am.To me it seems to becloser to 2153 which will give a vorgotam scorpio lagna.Rest we will knowas the future unfolds.Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Astroblogg, The bachhans are very heavily dependant on astrology and they have more than one astrologer. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com astroblogg [astroblogg] Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:50 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra.I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers were given free reign to choose any date in the year.Also note the wedding time was around sunset.But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha.Harisohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official> time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would> have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were> consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had> priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a> bit intrigued about the muhurta.> Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used.> > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned.> > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > Hari> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Sarbani> Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > not me! I> > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO> > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden> > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to> > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should> > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are> > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either> > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage> > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their> > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in> > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels.> > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual> > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika> > lagna.> > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing> > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna> > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani.> <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > @gro <%40> ups.com> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should> > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont> > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i> > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > Namaste> > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and> > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > <@gro <%40>> ups.com <http://ups.com/> >> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > <@gro <%40> ups.com> <http://ups.com/> >> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> law of the> > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the> > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and> > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are> > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more> > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the> > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in> > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and> > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated> > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu> > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a> > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow> > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of> > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in> > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident> > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I> > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > Dear Swee> > Hare Krishna> > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news> > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday> > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify> > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should> > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed> > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage.> > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which> > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was> > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in> > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama.> > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these> > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin> > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday> > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> 2108_21024> > 01,00.html>> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/?> com/?> ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 ||Hare Ram Krishna|| Dear Sarbani ji, The main priest was from Kashi Vishwanath Mandi Trust..the ceremony started after 613 pm and ended at 8 pm, as per HT. Regards Sharat - Sarbani Sarkar Rath sohamsa Cc: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:00 PM RE: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Astroblogg, The bachhans are very heavily dependant on astrology and they have more than one astrologer. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com astroblogg [astroblogg ] Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:50 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra.I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers were given free reign to choose any date in the year.Also note the wedding time was around sunset.But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha.Harisohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official> time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would> have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were> consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had> priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a> bit intrigued about the muhurta.> Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used.> > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned.> > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > Hari> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Sarbani> Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > not me! I> > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO> > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden> > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to> > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should> > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are> > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either> > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage> > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their> > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in> > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels.> > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual> > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika> > lagna.> > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing> > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna> > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani.> <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > @gro <%40> ups.com> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should> > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont> > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i> > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > Namaste> > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and> > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > <@gro <%40>> ups.com <http://ups.com/> >> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > <@gro <%40> ups.com> <http://ups.com/> >> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> law of the> > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the> > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and> > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are> > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more> > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the> > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in> > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and> > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated> > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu> > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a> > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow> > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of> > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in> > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident> > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I> > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > Dear Swee> > Hare Krishna> > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news> > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday> > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify> > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should> > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed> > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage.> > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which> > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was> > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in> > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama.> > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these> > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin> > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday> > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> 2108_21024> > 01,00.html>> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/?> com/?> ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| Dear Sarbani Ji & Learned members, That is quite a well-known fact. Many years back, I had come across a book by Shri K.N. Rao where a lot of space was given to describing how one doctor well known to the Bachchan family would frequent Mr. Rao's place for Shanti Path during Amitabh Bachchan's illness. I believe his name was said to be Dr. Caroli. If I remember correctly, a reference was also made to his mother Smt. Teji Bachchan coming over to inquire astrologically about Amitabh Bachchan's health during that period. This was from a book by Shri Rao but even otherwise Amitabh Bachchan wears many gemstones and so does his son Abhishek. Out of habit, I spotted the latter wearing either a Neelam or a Gomed on the Madhyama, but this was a few months back. I am sure their astrologers are working on the 'other' school of thought of Shani lording the Madhyama etc. Much has been made of Mangal Shanti for Aishwarya Rai's 8th House Mangal retrograde in Mesha Rashi. Admittedly most of this is media reporting but the sense one gets from watching the Bachchan family is that they are quite reliant on Jyotish. So, odds are that the Muhurta could not have been chosen without care. Just a couple of other thoughts that come to mind. It seems that the actress may have actually wanted to marry Salman Khan, rather than the relationship being just that, merely a relationship. In her chart (November 1, 1973; 4:05 AM; 74 E 51, 12 N 54), the Darapada is in Vrishchik Rashi conjoined Vakra Budh. The actor Salman Khan has Makar Lagna ( Dec. 27, 1965; 9:15 AM; Mumbai, India) which is not reflected accurately from this Darapada. However, the lord of her Upapada Guru is Neecha in Makar Rashi. As the Upapada is stronger than the 7th from the Upapada, the placement of the lord of the Upapada in a sign can indicate the rising sign of the potential spouse. There is Kalatra Shrapa in the 4th House conjoined the UL. Pt. Sanjay Rath in his paper on the Atmakaraka discussed the horoscope of Salman Khan and the Shukra-Rahu Yuti in both the horoscopes. These vulnerabilities might have prevented the relationship from culminating into marriage and also precipitating what it did. On the other hand, the actor Vivek Oberoi with his penchant for press conferences (retrograde Budh)fits the Darapada profile for Aishwarya Rai. References were made to violence and being very skilled in fighting and not having any fear, quite Scorpio in content. In the absence of birth data for Vivek (or is it Viviek) this can only be informed conjecture but it does seems to fit her A7 profile of colleagues (3rd House) conjoined A5- affection. The families have been doing many Upaya and propitiation, visiting Tirupati Balaji (Rahu Shanti)and other temples. These would be well in order as Aishwarya Rai's 2nd UL would be Karka, and its lord Moon is involved in the Shrapa. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Astroblogg,> > The bachhans are very heavily dependant on astrology and they have more than> one astrologer.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:50 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on > astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first > chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which > should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed > quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra.> > I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna > and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers > were given free reign to choose any date in the year.> > Also note the wedding time was around sunset.> > But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and > ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha.> > Hari> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Sarbani> Sarkar Rath" sarbani@ > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the > official> > time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits > would> > have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of > astrologers were> > consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's > had> > priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence > I am a> > bit intrigued about the muhurta.> > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani.> <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg@] > > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. > Bachans > > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the > Rais > > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > > different panchanga being used.> > > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time > of > > wedding as planned.> > > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding > was > > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > > > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > > > Hari> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%> 40> .com, "Sarbani> > Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > > not me! I> > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > > should have NO> > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The > second > > golden> > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden > rule > > is not to> > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally > there > > should> > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going > by > > this, are> > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It > is > > either> > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > > marriage> > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > > their> > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika > with > > guru in> > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > > channels.> > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > > actual> > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > > Vrishchika> > > lagna.> > > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on > the> > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an > auspicious > > thing> > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the > Tula > > lagna> > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com> com> <http://sarbani.> > <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > > @gro <%40> > ups.com> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > > addition should> > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by > benefics. > > I dont> > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > > sometimes, as i> > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > Namaste> > > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > > importance and> > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > > @gro <%> 40>> > ups.com <http://ups.com/> >> > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > > @gro <%40> > ups.com> > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> > law of the> > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage > given > > to the> > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy > that> > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > > both sun and> > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good > things > > are> > > assured. > > > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > > gain more> > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > > given the> > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > > house in> > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others > feelings > > and> > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > > debilitated> > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further > aspected > > by rahu> > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > > sani is a> > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > > lord. slow> > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > > role of> > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > > marriage in> > > future to come.. > > > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > > evident> > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > > gives me..I> > > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > > > Dear Swee> > > Hare Krishna> > > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > > big news> > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > > Friday> > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > > please verify> > > this. > > > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > > 7H should> > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > > is placed> > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > > hours which> > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > > marriage was> > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > > exhalted in> > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > > Vargottama.> > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > > these> > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Bipin> > > > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > > on Friday> > > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > > <http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> > 2108_21024> > > 01,00.html>> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> 2108_2102401,00.html> > > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/>> com/> > <http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.> <http://www.aol.com/?> com/?> > com/?> > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. My friends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings. I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage of convenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feel something isn't right with this marriage. hardeoOn 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com astroblogg [astroblogg] Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very different panchanga being used.Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of wedding as planned.At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have taken place just after 6:30 pm.So lagna is indeed Libra.Harisohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope not me! I> have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO> planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden> rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to> have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should> not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are> we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either> Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage> muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their> point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in> lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels.> The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual> ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika> lagna.> > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing> for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna> muhurta? I think none of us do. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > Dear Swee, > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should> have 7th shuddhi. > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont> think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i> have pointed out in the past several times. > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > Kishore patnaik > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan com> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Gaurav,> Namaste> > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and> not the Sun nor the Moon > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > _____ > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol com>> < <http://ups.com/> >> Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> < <http://ups.com/> >> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > Namaste Bipin,> > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the> now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> karnapischachini)among many others. > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the> press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and> moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are> assured. > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more> and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the> chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in> 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and> maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated> MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu> and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a> very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow> and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of> father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in> future to come.. > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident> above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I> wish them all the best for the future..> > Gaurav> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag com writes:> > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > Dear Swee> Hare Krishna> > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news> everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday> 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify> this. > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should> not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed> in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage.> > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which> of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was> when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in> Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama.> Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these> 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > Best wishes > > Bipin> > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday> with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24.> < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_21024> 01,00.html>> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ ॐ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members, Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007 when the wedding took place. Beneficial points : 1) Uttarayana is excellent. 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life. 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth. 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one. 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highly favourable. 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women. Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart. 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in 7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha. 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka. 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th. 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri, Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should be avoided. 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born. 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple. 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond of quarrelling. 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity with the couple. 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or from Chandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha. So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listen to the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ). With úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao. Hardeo Singh <hardenedsoul wrote: Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. My friends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings. I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage of convenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feel something isn't right with this marriage. hardeo On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com astroblogg [astroblogg ] Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very different panchanga being used.Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of wedding as planned.At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have taken place just after 6:30 pm.So lagna is indeed Libra.Harisohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope not me! I> have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house should have NO> planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second golden> rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule is not to> have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there should> not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by this, are> we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is either> Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a marriage> muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from their> point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with guru in> lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between channels.> The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The actual> ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be Vrishchika> lagna.> > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious thing> for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula lagna> muhurta? I think none of us do. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09] > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > Dear Swee, > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in addition should> have 7th shuddhi. > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. I dont> think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics sometimes, as i> have pointed out in the past several times. > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > Kishore patnaik > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan com> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Gaurav,> Namaste> > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost importance and> not the Sun nor the Moon > > Love,> > Swee> > > > > _____ > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol com>> < <http://ups.com/> >> Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> < <http://ups.com/> >> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > Namaste Bipin,> > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-law of the> now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> karnapischachini)among many others. > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given to the> press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when both sun and> moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things are> assured. > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will gain more> and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, given the> chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own house in> 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings and> maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury debilitated> MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected by rahu> and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) sani is a> very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th lord. slow> and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the role of> father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the marriage in> future to come.. > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as evident> above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa gives me..I> wish them all the best for the future..> > Gaurav> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag com writes:> > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > Dear Swee> Hare Krishna> > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya big news> everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on Friday> 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone please verify> this. > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, 7H should> not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury is placed> in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for marriage.> > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two hours which> of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of marriage was> when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun exhalted in> Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being Vargottama.> Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what these> 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > Best wishes > > Bipin> > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 on Friday> with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_21024> 01,00.html>> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar! Very nice post. It is funny I had all these questions in my mind and you actually answered all of them in a single post. I am curious if you have the DOB of Abhishek Bachhan. Warm regards, PranavAnurag Sharma <anuraagsharma27 wrote: |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| Dear Sarbani Ji & Learned members, That is quite a well-known fact. Many years back, I had come across a book by Shri K.N. Rao where a lot of space was given to describing how one doctor well known to the Bachchan family would frequent Mr. Rao's place for Shanti Path during Amitabh Bachchan's illness. I believe his name was said to be Dr. Caroli. If I remember correctly, a reference was also made to his mother Smt. Teji Bachchan coming over to inquire astrologically about Amitabh Bachchan's health during that period. This was from a book by Shri Rao but even otherwise Amitabh Bachchan wears many gemstones and so does his son Abhishek. Out of habit, I spotted the latter wearing either a Neelam or a Gomed on the Madhyama, but this was a few months back. I am sure their astrologers are working on the 'other' school of thought of Shani lording the Madhyama etc. Much has been made of Mangal Shanti for Aishwarya Rai's 8th House Mangal retrograde in Mesha Rashi. Admittedly most of this is media reporting but the sense one gets from watching the Bachchan family is that they are quite reliant on Jyotish. So, odds are that the Muhurta could not have been chosen without care. Just a couple of other thoughts that come to mind. It seems that the actress may have actually wanted to marry Salman Khan, rather than the relationship being just that, merely a relationship. In her chart (November 1, 1973; 4:05 AM; 74 E 51, 12 N 54), the Darapada is in Vrishchik Rashi conjoined Vakra Budh. The actor Salman Khan has Makar Lagna ( Dec. 27, 1965; 9:15 AM; Mumbai, India) which is not reflected accurately from this Darapada. However, the lord of her Upapada Guru is Neecha in Makar Rashi. As the Upapada is stronger than the 7th from the Upapada, the placement of the lord of the Upapada in a sign can indicate the rising sign of the potential spouse. There is Kalatra Shrapa in the 4th House conjoined the UL. Pt. Sanjay Rath in his paper on the Atmakaraka discussed the horoscope of Salman Khan and the Shukra-Rahu Yuti in both the horoscopes. These vulnerabilities might have prevented the relationship from culminating into marriage and also precipitating what it did. On the other hand, the actor Vivek Oberoi with his penchant for press conferences (retrograde Budh)fits the Darapada profile for Aishwarya Rai. References were made to violence and being very skilled in fighting and not having any fear, quite Scorpio in content. In the absence of birth data for Vivek (or is it Viviek) this can only be informed conjecture but it does seems to fit her A7 profile of colleagues (3rd House) conjoined A5- affection. The families have been doing many Upaya and propitiation, visiting Tirupati Balaji (Rahu Shanti)and other temples. These would be well in order as Aishwarya Rai's 2nd UL would be Karka, and its lord Moon is involved in the Shrapa. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com--- In sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Astroblogg,> > The bachhans are very heavily dependant on astrology and they have more than> one astrologer.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > _____ > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:50 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on > astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first > chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which > should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed > quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra.> > I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna > and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers > were given free reign to choose any date in the year.> > Also note the wedding time was around sunset.> > But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and > ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha.> > Hari> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Sarbani> Sarkar Rath" sarbani@ > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the > official> > time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits > would> > have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of > astrologers were> > consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's > had> > priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence > I am a> > bit intrigued about the muhurta.> > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani.> <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg@] > > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. > Bachans > > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the > Rais > > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > > different panchanga being used.> > > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time > of > > wedding as planned.> > > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding > was > > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > > > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > > > Hari> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%> 40> .com, "Sarbani> > Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > > not me! I> > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > > should have NO> > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The > second > > golden> > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden > rule > > is not to> > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally > there > > should> > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going > by > > this, are> > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It > is > > either> > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > > marriage> > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > > their> > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika > with > > guru in> > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > > channels.> > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > > actual> > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > > Vrishchika> > > lagna.> > > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on > the> > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an > auspicious > > thing> > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the > Tula > > lagna> > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com> com> <http://sarbani.> > <http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com/> com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > > @gro <%40> > ups.com> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > > addition should> > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by > benefics. > > I dont> > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > > sometimes, as i> > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > Namaste> > > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > > importance and> > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > > @gro <%> 40>> > ups.com <http://ups.com/> >> > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > > @gro <%40> > ups.com> > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> > law of the> > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage > given > > to the> > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy > that> > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > > both sun and> > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good > things > > are> > > assured. > > > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > > gain more> > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > > given the> > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > > house in> > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others > feelings > > and> > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > > debilitated> > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further > aspected > > by rahu> > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > > sani is a> > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > > lord. slow> > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > > role of> > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > > marriage in> > > future to come.. > > > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > > evident> > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > > gives me..I> > > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > > > Dear Swee> > > Hare Krishna> > > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > > big news> > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > > Friday> > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > > please verify> > > this. > > > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > > 7H should> > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > > is placed> > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > > hours which> > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > > marriage was> > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > > exhalted in> > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > > Vargottama.> > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > > these> > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Bipin> > > > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > > on Friday> > > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > > <http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24.> <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225->> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> > 2108_21024> > > 01,00.html>> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> 2108_2102401,00.html> > > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/>> com/> > <http://www.news24.> > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.> <http://www.aol.com/?> com/?> > com/?> > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>> > com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear RamadasRaoji, Members, With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, most important if the blessings of lord are there, can they override these doshas ? I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happening within a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near & dear, so please give them good wishes, " kahate hai doosrein ke liye maang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai " . rest is their karma. Cheers, Abhijeet sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2\ 351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405; > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2\ 360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405; > Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members, > Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007 when the wedding took place. > Beneficial points : > 1) Uttarayana is excellent. > 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life. > 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth. > 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one. > 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highly favourable. > 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women. > Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart. > 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in 7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha. > 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka. > 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th. > 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha > 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri, Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should be avoided. > 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born. > 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple. > 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond of quarrelling. > 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity with the couple. > 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or from Chandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha. > So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listen to the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ). > With > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a > Ramadas Rao. > > > Hardeo Singh <hardenedsoul wrote: > Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. My friends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings. I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage of convenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feel something isn't right with this marriage. > > hardeo > > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta. > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > http://sarbani.com > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM > sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used. > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned. > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm. > > So lagna is indeed Libra. > > Hari > > sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > wrote: > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore, > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope > not me! I > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels. > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika > > lagna. > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > Namaste > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com> > > < <http://ups.com/> > > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > > < <http://ups.com/> > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah > > > > Namaste Bipin, > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in- > law of the > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are > > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in > > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I > > wish them all the best for the future.. > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes: > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > > > Dear Swee > > Hare Krishna > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify > > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage. > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama. > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin > > > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday > > with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24. > > < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- > 2108_21024 > > 01,00.html> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html > > <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/? > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Om Gurave Namaha What was told by their traditional Jyotish from " Jabalpur " was theet the marriage will be done at 06:13 pm when moon is exalted. regards, Kaartik Gor sohamsa , " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: > > ||Hare Ram Krishna|| > > Dear Sarbani ji, > The main priest was from Kashi Vishwanath Mandi Trust..the ceremony started after 613 pm and ended at 8 pm, as per HT. > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > sohamsa > Cc: > Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:00 PM > RE: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Astroblogg, > > The bachhans are very heavily dependant on astrology and they have more than one astrologer. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > http://sarbani.com -- ---------- > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:50 PM > sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > To be honest I don't think the families have relied heavily on > astrologers advice, as you can see from the way the grooms side first > chose a date which is incompatible with the brides chart, which > should never happen in the first place, and then the date is changed > quickly to the next day just because of Nakshatra. > > I think the reason is simple. They decided Friday with Venusian lagna > and a 'safe' nakshatra would be ok. I don't think the astrologers > were given free reign to choose any date in the year. > > Also note the wedding time was around sunset. > > But the couple did visit Sri Balaji temple before the wedding, and > ultimately this blessing can override any bad muhurtha. > > Hari > > sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > wrote: > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the > official > > time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits > would > > have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of > astrologers were > > consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding. The Bachhan's > had > > priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence > I am a > > bit intrigued about the muhurta. > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > > http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg@] > > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM > > sohamsa > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha. > Bachans > > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the > Rais > > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > > different panchanga being used. > > > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time > of > > wedding as planned. > > > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding > was > > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > > taken place just after 6:30 pm. > > > > So lagna is indeed Libra. > > > > Hari > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa% > 40> .com, " Sarbani > > Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore, > > > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope > > not me! I > > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > > should have NO > > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The > second > > golden > > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden > rule > > is not to > > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally > there > > should > > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going > by > > this, are > > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It > is > > either > > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers > > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > > marriage > > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > > their > > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika > with > > guru in > > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > > channels. > > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > > actual > > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > > Vrishchika > > > lagna. > > > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on > the > > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an > auspicious > > thing > > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the > Tula > > lagna > > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath > > > http://sarbani. <http://sarbani.com> com <http://sarbani. > > <http://sarbani.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > > @gro <%40> > ups.com > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > > addition should > > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by > benefics. > > I dont > > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > > sometimes, as i > > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > Namaste > > > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > > importance and > > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com> > > > <@gro <% > 40> > > ups.com <http://ups.com/> > > > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > > > <@gro <% 40> > ups.com > > <http://ups.com/> > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah > > > > > > Namaste Bipin, > > > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father- in- > > law of the > > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is > > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage > given > > to the > > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy > that > > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > > both sun and > > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good > things > > are > > > assured. > > > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > > gain more > > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > > given the > > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > > house in > > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others > feelings > > and > > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > > debilitated > > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further > aspected > > by rahu > > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > > sani is a > > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > > lord. slow > > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > > role of > > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > > marriage in > > > future to come.. > > > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > > evident > > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > > gives me..I > > > wish them all the best for the future.. > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes: > > > > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > > > > > Dear Swee > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > > big news > > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > > Friday > > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > > please verify > > > this. > > > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > > 7H should > > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > > is placed > > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > > hours which > > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > > marriage was > > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > > exhalted in > > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > > Vargottama. > > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > > these > > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Bipin > > > > > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > > on Friday > > > with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24. > > > <http://www.news24. > > <http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2- 1225-> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- > > 2108_21024 > > > 01,00.html> > > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- > 2108_2102401,00.html > > > <http://www.news24. <http://www.news24.com/> com/> > <http://www.news24. > > <http://www.news24.com/> com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/? > > com/? > > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > > <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com? ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ ॐ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear Abhijeet Rai, I am sorry for that statement. From yesterday night ,I was wondering and thinking too much about this Muhurta as it was given by famous Astrologers I suppose. Today morning after my prayers,I got the reply. Some 2 years ago I was explaing about Upanayana and Marriage Muhurtas.So I got remembered about this special Muhurta.It is nothing but GODHULI MUHURTA.During Sunset,we see the Bimba by 3 parts.From this part, 2 Ghatikas is considered very very auspicious for performing Marriages.This is the time when Cows return their shed after having their food in the grass ground.So when this Muhurta is selected, there is no need to see any Muhurta Lagna,Tithi,weekday,Nakshatra,Jamitra Dosha, Lagnamsha,Ashtama Paapa Stithis etc.On 20th of April, Sun set took place at 18 :57 Hrs.The marriage took place at 18 :30 Hrs.The Sun set time is taken as the time when the top tip of Sun just be seen.So the Sun set started at 18 :54 Hrs.From this time 2 Ghatikas ie., 48 minutes is reduced, we will get 18:06 Hrs.So from 18 :06 minutes to 18 :54 Hrs.is GODHULI Lagna.So the Astrologers fixed this GODHULI Muhurta for this marriage to nullify any Muhurta Doshas. With śrī hari vāyu guru nāma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao.Abhijeet Rai <anr75 wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear RamadasRaoji, Members,With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, mostimportant if the blessings of lord are there, can they override thesedoshas ?I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happeningwithin a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near & dear, so please give them good wishes, "kahate hai doosrein ke liyemaang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai".rest is their karma. Cheers,Abhijeetsohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members,> Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007when the wedding took place.> Beneficial points :> 1) Uttarayana is excellent.> 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life.> 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth.> 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one.> 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highlyfavourable.> 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women.> Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart.> 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha.> 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka.> 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th.> 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha> 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri,Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should beavoided.> 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born.> 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple.> 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond ofquarrelling.> 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity withthe couple.> 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or fromChandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha.> So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusionthat the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listento the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ).> With > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao.> > > Hardeo Singh <hardenedsoul wrote:> Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. Myfriends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings.I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash andAbhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage ofconvenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feelsomething isn't right with this marriage. > > hardeo> > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: ShriBrahmadaru Smarami> > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was theofficial time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think thepundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host ofastrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding.The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from theSringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta.> Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com> > > > > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha.Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used.> > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned.> > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > Hari> > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > not me! I> > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO> > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden> > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to> > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should> > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are> > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either> > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage> > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their> > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in> > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels.> > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual> > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika> > lagna.> > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing> > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna> > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should> > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont> > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i> > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > Namaste> > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and> > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > < <http://ups.com/> >> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > < <http://ups.com/> >> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> law of the> > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the> > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and> > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are> > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more> > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the> > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in> > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and> > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated> > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu> > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a> > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow> > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of> > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in> > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident> > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I> > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > Dear Swee> > Hare Krishna> > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news> > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday> > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify> > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should> > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed> > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage.> > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which> > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was> > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in> > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama.> > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these> > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin> > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday> > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> 2108_21024> > 01,00.html>> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?> ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 om krishna guru, respected ramadsji, Namaskar and pranams. Thanks for the illuminating post. with deep respect. your sisya sunil nair. om shreem mahalaxmai namah.sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Abhijeet Rai,> I am sorry for that statement.> From yesterday night ,I was wondering and thinking too much about this Muhurta as it was given by famous Astrologers I suppose.> Today morning after my prayers,I got the reply.> Some 2 years ago I was explaing about Upanayana and Marriage Muhurtas.So I got remembered about this special Muhurta.It is nothing but GODHULI MUHURTA.During Sunset,we see the Bimba by 3 parts.From this part, 2 Ghatikas is considered very very auspicious for performing Marriages.This is the time when Cows return their shed after having their food in the grass ground.So when this Muhurta is selected, there is no need to see any Muhurta Lagna,Tithi,weekday,Nakshatra,Jamitra Dosha, Lagnamsha,Ashtama Paapa Stithis etc.On 20th of April, Sun set took place at 18 :57 Hrs.The marriage took place at 18 :30 Hrs.The Sun set time is taken as the time when the top tip of Sun just be seen.So the Sun set started at 18 :54 Hrs.From this time 2 Ghatikas ie., 48 minutes is reduced, we will get 18:06 Hrs.So from 18 :06 minutes to 18 :54 Hrs.is GODHULI Lagna.So the Astrologers fixed this GODHULI Muhurta for this marriage to nullify any Muhurta Doshas.> With > & #347;r & #299; hari v & #257;yu guru n & #257;ma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao.> > Abhijeet Rai anr75 wrote:> || Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear RamadasRaoji, Members,> > With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, most> important if the blessings of lord are there, can they override these> doshas ?> > I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. > > Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happening> within a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near> & dear, so please give them good wishes, "kahate hai doosrein ke liye> maang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai".> > rest is their karma. > > Cheers,> Abhijeet> > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> >> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;> & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351;> & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;> & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351;> & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members,> > Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007> when the wedding took place.> > Beneficial points :> > 1) Uttarayana is excellent.> > 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life.> > 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth.> > 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one.> > 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highly> favourable.> > 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women.> > Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart.> > 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in> 7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha.> > 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka.> > 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th.> > 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha> > 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri,> Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should be> avoided.> > 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born.> > 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple.> > 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond of> quarrelling.> > 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity with> the couple.> > 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or from> Chandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha.> > So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion> that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listen> to the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ).> > With > > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Hardeo Singh hardenedsoul@ wrote:> > Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. My> friends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings.> I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and> Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage of> convenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feel> something isn't right with this marriage. > > > > hardeo> > > > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath sarbani@ wrote: Shri> Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the> official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the> pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of> astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding.> The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the> Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta.> > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg@] > > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> > sohamsa > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha.> Bachans > > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > > different panchanga being used.> > > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > > wedding as planned.> > > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > > > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > > > Hari> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > > not me! I> > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > > should have NO> > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > > golden> > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > > is not to> > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > > should> > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > > this, are> > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > > either> > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > > marriage> > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > > their> > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > > guru in> > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > > channels.> > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > > actual> > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > > Vrishchika> > > lagna.> > > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > > thing> > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > > lagna> > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > > addition should> > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > > I dont> > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > > sometimes, as i> > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > Namaste> > > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > > importance and> > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> > law of the> > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > > to the> > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > > both sun and> > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > > are> > > assured. > > > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > > gain more> > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > > given the> > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > > house in> > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > > and> > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > > debilitated> > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > > by rahu> > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > > sani is a> > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > > lord. slow> > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > > role of> > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > > marriage in> > > future to come.. > > > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > > evident> > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > > gives me..I> > > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > > > Dear Swee> > > Hare Krishna> > > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > > big news> > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > > Friday> > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > > please verify> > > this. > > > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > > 7H should> > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > > is placed> > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > > hours which> > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > > marriage was> > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > > exhalted in> > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > > Vargottama.> > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > > these> > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Bipin> > > > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > > on Friday> > > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > > < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> > 2108_21024> > > 01,00.html>> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > > <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?> > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear RamadasJiNamasteYou are absolutely correct Godhulika is a good Muhurta as Swee pointed out to us earlier quoted from Narada Purana 512-13a. This did cross my mind, but I did the computation and found that it didnt correlate with the time proceedings started. In the notes to this text it says... .....This Muhurta is called Godhulika because it occurs at dusk when cows return home from pasture, happy and expectant... Godhulika Muhurta is 2hours before sunset. So from JHL sunset was 18h54 for the day, thus computing the Muhurta to be at 16h54 which doesnt fit with what we know, unless the purohit did a special offering at this time to signify the wedding. This Godhulika Muhurta does seem like a proposition - my only doubt is to confirm whether this muhurta is indeed two hours before sunset.Best Wishes Bipin On 24/04/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥Dear Abhijeet Rai,I am sorry for that statement. From yesterday night ,I was wondering and thinking too much about this Muhurta as it was given by famous Astrologers I suppose.Today morning after my prayers,I got the reply. Some 2 years ago I was explaing about Upanayana and Marriage Muhurtas.So I got remembered about this special Muhurta.It is nothing but GODHULI MUHURTA.During Sunset,we see the Bimba by 3 parts.From this part, 2 Ghatikas is considered very very auspicious for performing Marriages.This is the time when Cows return their shed after having their food in the grass ground.So when this Muhurta is selected, there is no need to see any Muhurta Lagna,Tithi,weekday,Nakshatra,Jamitra Dosha, Lagnamsha,Ashtama Paapa Stithis etc.On 20th of April, Sun set took place at 18 :57 Hrs.The marriage took place at 18 :30 Hrs.The Sun set time is taken as the time when the top tip of Sun just be seen.So the Sun set started at 18 :54 Hrs.From this time 2 Ghatikas ie., 48 minutes is reduced, we will get 18:06 Hrs.So from 18 :06 minutes to 18 :54 Hrs.is GODHULI Lagna.So the Astrologers fixed this GODHULI Muhurta for this marriage to nullify any Muhurta Doshas. With Å›rÄ« hari vÄyu guru nÄma smaraṇaRamadas Rao. Abhijeet Rai <anr75 wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear RamadasRaoji, Members,With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, mostimportant if the blessings of lord are there, can they override thesedoshas ? I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happeningwithin a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near & dear, so please give them good wishes, " kahate hai doosrein ke liye maang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai " .rest is their karma. Cheers,Abhijeet sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members,> Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007when the wedding took place.> Beneficial points : > 1) Uttarayana is excellent.> 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life.> 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth.> 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one. > 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highlyfavourable.> 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women.> Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart. > 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha.> 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka.> 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th. > 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha> 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri,Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should beavoided.> 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born. > 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple.> 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond ofquarrelling.> 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity withthe couple. > 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or fromChandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha.> So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listento the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ).> With > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao. > > > Hardeo Singh <hardenedsoul wrote:> Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. Myfriends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings.I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage ofconvenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feelsomething isn't right with this marriage. > > hardeo> > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: ShriBrahmadaru Smarami> > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was theofficial time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host ofastrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding.The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta.> Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com> > > > > > > > astroblogg [ astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha.Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used.> > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned. > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > So lagna is indeed Libra. > > Hari> > sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope > not me! I> > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO> > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden> > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to> > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should> > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are> > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either> > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage> > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their> > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in> > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels.> > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual> > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika> > lagna.> > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing> > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna> > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should> > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont> > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i> > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) < sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > Namaste> > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and> > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > < <http://ups.com/> >> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > > < < http://ups.com/> >> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > Namaste Bipin, > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> law of the> > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the> > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and> > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are> > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more> > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the> > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in> > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and> > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated> > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu> > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a> > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow> > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of> > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in> > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident> > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I> > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > > > Dear Swee> > Hare Krishna> > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news> > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday> > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify> > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should> > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed> > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage.> > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which> > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was> > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in> > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama.> > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these> > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin> > > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday> > with an exchange of garlands. 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Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear RamadasjiNamasteApologies - I read you post again and the computation of 2 ghatikas solves this problem. I always thought it was 2 hours before sunset. Best Wishes BipinOn 24/04/07, Bipin Prag <bipinprag wrote: ||Om Krishna Guru Om||Dear RamadasJiNamasteYou are absolutely correct Godhulika is a good Muhurta as Swee pointed out to us earlier quoted from Narada Purana 512-13a. This did cross my mind, but I did the computation and found that it didnt correlate with the time proceedings started. In the notes to this text it says... ....This Muhurta is called Godhulika because it occurs at dusk when cows return home from pasture, happy and expectant... Godhulika Muhurta is 2hours before sunset. So from JHL sunset was 18h54 for the day, thus computing the Muhurta to be at 16h54 which doesnt fit with what we know, unless the purohit did a special offering at this time to signify the wedding. This Godhulika Muhurta does seem like a proposition - my only doubt is to confirm whether this muhurta is indeed two hours before sunset.Best WishesBipin On 24/04/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao > wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥Dear Abhijeet Rai,I am sorry for that statement. From yesterday night ,I was wondering and thinking too much about this Muhurta as it was given by famous Astrologers I suppose.Today morning after my prayers,I got the reply. Some 2 years ago I was explaing about Upanayana and Marriage Muhurtas.So I got remembered about this special Muhurta.It is nothing but GODHULI MUHURTA.During Sunset,we see the Bimba by 3 parts.From this part, 2 Ghatikas is considered very very auspicious for performing Marriages.This is the time when Cows return their shed after having their food in the grass ground.So when this Muhurta is selected, there is no need to see any Muhurta Lagna,Tithi,weekday,Nakshatra,Jamitra Dosha, Lagnamsha,Ashtama Paapa Stithis etc.On 20th of April, Sun set took place at 18 :57 Hrs.The marriage took place at 18 :30 Hrs.The Sun set time is taken as the time when the top tip of Sun just be seen.So the Sun set started at 18 :54 Hrs.From this time 2 Ghatikas ie., 48 minutes is reduced, we will get 18:06 Hrs.So from 18 :06 minutes to 18 :54 Hrs.is GODHULI Lagna.So the Astrologers fixed this GODHULI Muhurta for this marriage to nullify any Muhurta Doshas. With Å›rÄ« hari vÄyu guru nÄma smaraṇaRamadas Rao. Abhijeet Rai <anr75 wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear RamadasRaoji, Members,With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, mostimportant if the blessings of lord are there, can they override thesedoshas ? I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happeningwithin a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near & dear, so please give them good wishes, " kahate hai doosrein ke liye maang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai " .rest is their karma. Cheers,Abhijeet sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members,> Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007when the wedding took place.> Beneficial points : > 1) Uttarayana is excellent.> 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life.> 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth.> 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one. > 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highlyfavourable.> 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women.> Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart. > 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha.> 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka.> 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th. > 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha> 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri,Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should beavoided.> 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born. > 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple.> 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond ofquarrelling.> 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity withthe couple. > 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or fromChandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha.> So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listento the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ).> With > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao. > > > Hardeo Singh <hardenedsoul wrote:> Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. Myfriends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings.I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage ofconvenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feelsomething isn't right with this marriage. > > hardeo> > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath <sarbani wrote: ShriBrahmadaru Smarami> > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was theofficial time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host ofastrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding.The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta.> Best Regards,> > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com> > > > > > > > astroblogg [ astroblogg] > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> sohamsa > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha.Bachans > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > different panchanga being used.> > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > wedding as planned. > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > So lagna is indeed Libra. > > Hari> > sohamsa , " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani@> > wrote:> >> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that " of late people " . I hope > not me! I> > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > should have NO> > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > golden> > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > is not to> > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > should> > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > this, are> > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > either> > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > marriage> > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > their> > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > guru in> > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > channels.> > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > actual> > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > Vrishchika> > lagna.> > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > thing> > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > lagna> > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > addition should> > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > I dont> > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > sometimes, as i> > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) < sweechan@> com> > wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > Namaste> > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > importance and> > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > Love,> > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > < <http://ups.com/> >> > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) > > < < http://ups.com/> >> > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > Namaste Bipin, > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> law of the> > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > to the> > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > both sun and> > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > are> > assured. > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > gain more> > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > given the> > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > house in> > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > and> > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > debilitated> > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > by rahu> > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > sani is a> > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > lord. slow> > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > role of> > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > marriage in> > future to come.. > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > evident> > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > gives me..I> > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time, > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om|| > > > > Dear Swee> > Hare Krishna> > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > big news> > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > Friday> > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > please verify> > this. > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > 7H should> > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > is placed> > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > marriage.> > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > hours which> > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > marriage was> > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > exhalted in> > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > Vargottama.> > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > these> > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > Best wishes > > > > Bipin> > > > Source: " The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > on Friday> > with an exchange of garlands. " http://www.news24.> > < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225- > 2108_21024> > 01,00.html>> > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > < http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com < http://www.aol.com/?> ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503 > .> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ ॐ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear Sunil Nair, You are most welcome. With śrī hari vāyu guru nāma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao.astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote: om krishna guru, respected ramadsji, Namaskar and pranams. Thanks for the illuminating post. with deep respect. your sisya sunil nair. om shreem mahalaxmai namah.sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Abhijeet Rai,> I am sorry for that statement.> From yesterday night ,I was wondering and thinking too much about this Muhurta as it was given by famous Astrologers I suppose.> Today morning after my prayers,I got the reply.> Some 2 years ago I was explaing about Upanayana and Marriage Muhurtas.So I got remembered about this special Muhurta.It is nothing but GODHULI MUHURTA.During Sunset,we see the Bimba by 3 parts.From this part, 2 Ghatikas is considered very very auspicious for performing Marriages.This is the time when Cows return their shed after having their food in the grass ground.So when this Muhurta is selected, there is no need to see any Muhurta Lagna,Tithi,weekday,Nakshatra,Jamitra Dosha, Lagnamsha,Ashtama Paapa Stithis etc.On 20th of April, Sun set took place at 18 :57 Hrs.The marriage took place at 18 :30 Hrs.The Sun set time is taken as the time when the top tip of Sun just be seen.So the Sun set started at 18 :54 Hrs.From this time 2 Ghatikas ie., 48 minutes is reduced, we will get 18:06 Hrs.So from 18 :06 minutes to 18 :54 Hrs.is GODHULI Lagna.So the Astrologers fixed this GODHULI Muhurta for this marriage to nullify any Muhurta Doshas.> With > & #347;r & #299; hari v & #257;yu guru n & #257;ma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao.> > Abhijeet Rai anr75 wrote:> || Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear RamadasRaoji, Members,> > With all the good wishes, blessings of crores of people, most> important if the blessings of lord are there, can they override these> doshas ?> > I personally would like to see this marriage be successful. > > Also I would advise members not talk about their divorce happening> within a year,would you like if something similar happens to your near> & dear, so please give them good wishes, "kahate hai doosrein ke liye> maang se bhagwan bhi jaldi detha hai".> > rest is their karma. > > Cheers,> Abhijeet> > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> >> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;> & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351;> & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;> & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351;> & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > Dear respected Jyotish Gurus and other listed members,> > Let me analyse the Muhurta chart for 6 :30 PM on 20th April 2007> when the wedding took place.> > Beneficial points :> > 1) Uttarayana is excellent.> > 2) Vaishakha Month, Shukla Paksha favours a prosperous life.> > 3) Nakshatra Rohini which favours children, grandhsildren and wealth.> > 4) Muhurta Lagna Tula is the most favourable one.> > 5) Navamsha Lagna is Tula which is Vargottamamsha which is highly> favourable.> > 6) Nadika is Vishakha which indicates gaining from women.> > Now let me analyse the Doshas or malefic points in the Muhurta chart.> > 1) Udayasta Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th is afflicted by Surya in> 7th but Vargottama Lagna removes this Dosha.> > 2) Chandra and Lagna should not be in Shashtaka.> > 3) Benefis should not be in 8th-here Shukra is in 8th.> > 4) Chandra is with a Graha - Indusagraha> > 5) Durmuhurta : Rudra, Ahi,Pitri,> Puruhuta,Vahni,Bhaga,Girisha,Ajapada, Yama and Agni Muhurtas should be> avoided.> > 6) Kuja in 5th harms the life of the children to be born.> > 7) Rahu in the 5th gives diseases to the couple.> > 8) Budha in the 6th is good but it gives the couple fond of> quarrelling.> > 9) Muhurta Chintamani says Chandra with Shukra gives enemity with> the couple.> > 10) Jamitra Dosha ie., a planet in 7th either from Lagna or from> Chandra either in Muhurta chart or Navamsha chart is worst Dosha.> > So comparing these both good and bad points,I come to a conclusion> that the marital life will not be longer and very soon we will listen> to the divorce news.( Check from the natal charts of both ).> > With > > úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smara & #7751;a> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Hardeo Singh hardenedsoul@ wrote:> > Sorry am dropping in unannounced on this discussion. My> friends my Bombay have sent me pictures and some newspaper clippings.> I would like to draw my conclusions from the body language Ash and> Abhi have displayed and I find this marriage to be marriage of> convenience rather than mutual love and affection. I somehow feel> something isn't right with this marriage. > > > > hardeo> > > > On 4/22/07, Sarbani Sarkar Rath sarbani@ wrote: Shri> Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > The barati arrived at 5:30 p.m. I saw that on TV and that was the> official time too. And 6:30 sounds correct too. But do you think the> pundits would have chosen Moon-Venus in the 8th house? A whole host of> astrologers were consulted and there were 11 priests at the wedding.> The Bachhan's had priests from Benaras and the Rais had from the> Sringeri Math. Hence I am a bit intrigued about the muhurta.> > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > http://sarbani.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astroblogg [astroblogg@] > > Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:18 PM> > sohamsa > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > Time of 6:30 pm was set in advance for the wedding muhurtha.> Bachans > > wanted the wedding on Thursday but this was not suitable for the Rais > > as day was said to be Bharani Krittika , this suggests a very > > different panchanga being used.> > > > Groom arrived just after 5 pm, so seems like 6:30 pm was the time of > > wedding as planned.> > > > At 8:45 pm live on the scene reporters had confirmed the wedding was > > indeed over and some guests have left already. So wedding must have > > taken place just after 6:30 pm.> > > > So lagna is indeed Libra.> > > > Hari> > > > sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbani@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > Dear Swee and Kishore,> > > > > > I dont know who you meant by saying that "of late people". I hope > > not me! I> > > have learnt from my part of the continent, that the 8th house > > should have NO> > > planets in ANY muhurta chart. This is first golden rule. The second > > golden> > > rule is to ideally have Jupiter in a kendra. The third golden rule > > is not to> > > have any planets in the karaka bhava. Going by this, ideally there > > should> > > not be any planets in the 7th and the 8th. But we are not going by > > this, are> > > we? Gaurav and Bipin are trying to get a hook on the muhurta. It is > > either> > > Tula or Vrishchika. The Bachhans had mega pandits and astrologers> > > surrounding them. Do you think they would have actually chosen a > > marriage> > > muhurta with Moon and Venus in the 8th? I gave the arguments from > > their> > > point of view, in case they did. It is more likely Vrishchika with > > guru in> > > lagna. I was on television a lot last night, and surfing between > > channels.> > > The marriage finished pretty late and then the party started. The > > actual> > > ceremony was for one hour. So going by this, it can surely be > > Vrishchika> > > lagna.> > > > > > Anyway, even if it is Tula lagna, I would not like to comment on the> > > negative implications for the marriage as that is not an auspicious > > thing> > > for an astrologer to utter. The bottom line is do we like the Tula > > lagna> > > muhurta? I think none of us do. > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar Rath> > > http://sarbani.com < http://sarbani.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > kishore patnaik [kishorepatnaik09@] > > > Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:28 PM> > > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > Any good muhurat should have ashtama shuddhi and marriage in > > addition should> > > have 7th shuddhi. > > > > > > Of late, people are ignoring both if they are occupied by benefics. > > I dont> > > think this is good esp so since benefics can act as malefics > > sometimes, as i> > > have pointed out in the past several times. > > > > > > I give the marriage about 8 months time> > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > On 4/21/07, Swee Chan sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) <sweechan@> com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > Namaste> > > > > > For a marriage muhurta, Jupiter and Venus have the utmost > > importance and> > > not the Sun nor the Moon > > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Swee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) <yobrevol@> com>> > > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT)> > > <http://ups.com/> >> > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] AbhiAsh Wedding> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Durgayai Namah> > > > > > Namaste Bipin,> > > > > > You have kindled my interest also, specially since the father-in-> > law of the> > > now bride also approached a famous soothsayer in jaipur (siddhi is> > > karnapischachini)among many others. > > > > > > In any event, it is highly unlikely that the time of marriage given > > to the> > > press is the real one. However, in any event, it is noteworthy that> > > naturally whatever the muhurata chosen, the time frame was when > > both sun and> > > moon were exalted. So initiations and sustenance of the good things > > are> > > assured. > > > > > > We also dont know their specific birthcharts to decipher who will > > gain more> > > and the combined outcome of the marriage in their lives. However, > > given the> > > chart you sent, the tara is exalted moon along with venus in own > > house in> > > 9th house of dharma. Both will try to respect each others feelings > > and> > > maintain the dharma of marriage, it indicates. This has mercury > > debilitated> > > MKS in 7th house, with no help for a neechabhanga, further aspected > > by rahu> > > and jupiter retro jupiter ( which is somewhat very little saving) > > sani is a> > > very very important placement here in the 11th as the 5th and 6th > > lord. slow> > > and steady wins the race. Sun in 2nd from 7th also indicates the > > role of> > > father or father like figures in providing sustenance to the > > marriage in> > > future to come.. > > > > > > I know very little if anything about reading muhurata charts, as > > evident> > > above, none the less wrote my feelings that the jupiter mahadasa > > gives me..I> > > wish them all the best for the future..> > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2007 6:25:31 P.M. India Standard Time,> > > bipinprag (AT) gmail (DOT) <bipinprag@> com writes:> > > > > > > > > ||Om Krishna Guru Om||> > > > > > Dear Swee> > > Hare Krishna> > > > > > With the publicity around the wedding of Abhishek and Ashwariya > > big news> > > everywhere, I thought of looking at the Marriage election chart. > > > > > > News reports purport that astrologers chose the time of 18:13 on > > Friday> > > 20th April 2007 in Mumbai - see source below. Could someone > > please verify> > > this. > > > > > > Assuming that this chart is correct, from our recent discussions, > > 7H should> > > not be occupied for a good Marriage Muhurta. I find that Mercury > > is placed> > > in 7h which is in MKS. On the face of it, this not good idea for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > Now considering that the wedding ceremony was done within two > > hours which> > > of course gives another chart if the official recorded time of > > marriage was> > > when the final vows were exchanged so to speak. Despite Sun > > exhalted in> > > Aries in 7H, this chart Mo is in 8h, despite Ve in Ta being > > Vargottama.> > > Rasi chart also has Gk & Md in 8th. > > > > > > Could you please guide and share some of your thoughts on what > > these> > > 'astrologers' saw in this electional chart.> > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Bipin> > > > > > Source: "The ceremony kicked off at the auspicious hour of 18:13 > > on Friday> > > with an exchange of garlands." http://www.news24.> > > < http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-> > 2108_21024> > > 01,00.html>> > > com/News24/Entertainment/Celebrities/0,,2-1225-2108_2102401,00.html> > > <http://www.news24.com/> < http://www.news24.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?> > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> > > > <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> SHOUT IT OUT! 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