My questions - Lesson#10 (not 11)

September 26, 2000

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Pranam Gurudeva,

I have the following questions regarding the Tatwa lesson No.10: I honestly tried my answers for those questions. Please answer and correct me.

Question 1: The lesson on Tatwa and their relativity is excellent and we can not find those matters in any of the available texts. Thanks for you and Mr.Sarat. However, the ordinary meaning of Tatwa like Agni, jala, vayu, prithvy and Akash are not enough. We need to know their extended meaning. What do they really mean in this world and what are the things they refer to? They are present in everything and everywhere, but, finding the predominant nature is very important. I think that's why your first question was asking about the predominance. Your teaching for us is to think as much as possible. So, I didn't want to just pose the question and I want to try answer for myself. I am making my attempt purely on my thinking and no text is referred for that and it is bound to have mistake. I want to make the attempt without any prejudice.

Agni: Objective matters having energy and force with limitations or boundry are Agni tatwa. Fire, force, energy, light, sound. In mental level executing abilities, positive anxiety, angry, hatred, black tantric.

Prithvy: Objective matters without energy and force with limitations other than Jala and Vayu are Prithvy tatwa. Land, hills, table, chair, building, etc., car without engine is Prithvy tatwa, with engine is Agni tatwa. In Mental level, basic learning (explained further in Akash tatwa) and formal understanding.

Jala: Objective matters without energy and force with limitations in liquid form are Jala. All liquids, chemical, sea. In mental level Love, Caring, comforting.

Vayu: Anything with expansion but with limitation or boundry. Air, Gaseous subtances, Internet, In mental level creativity, arts, music.

Akash tatwa: Anything which pervades into everything, without any limitation or boundary or obstruction. Like, radio waves, television. In mental level, any cosmic thinking, effects of Pooja, Mantra, blessings, parayer. Intelligent. Basic learning comes from the Prithvy tatwa, like 3+2 = 5. But, intelligence is unlimited and expansive. Because, of this nature only, we get new inventions, which were not there earlier. Inventing the circle and using it in bicycle are Intelligence, but, later whoever understands this concept is Prithvy tatwa. When we ask a question 3 + ? = 5, where one has to use his intelligence to answer. This is Akash tatwa. This is what I feel.

As I mentioned all the matters have all these tatwa, and we are trying to find the predominant tatwa. So, I confused in many areas like, light and sound can be Vayu tatwa, but their predominant nature is Agni. Similarly, creativity can be Akashtatwa.

Our body has all the five tatwas. Other than, Atma and mind, Action of all parts of the body are Agni, flesh and bone are Prithvy, Blood and other fluids are Jala, Invisibly one who connects the entire body is Nervous system, i.e., Vayu tatwa. I don't know where exactly Akash tatwa fit in. I think 'Maha Vishnu' in our body is Akash. That's why all the living things are referred as Lord Mahavishnu. After death, only Prithvy tatwa prevails.

I request Gurudeva and others to correct and add. With the proper understanding of the tatwa and with the help of Lesson 10, later I am planning to do a project related to Lagna assignment. I will list all the traits of all lagna and will find the relevancy of each trait to the lagna with the help of Bhava karakatwa and the tatwa & guna of each sign. For that I need to know the tatwa in depth.

Question No 2.

In Lesson No 3. One of the assignment question was "why the luminaries has lordship of one sign, instead of 2, like other 5 planets?"

The answers given at that time by the students were not accepted by you as correct. The answers were: One mentioned that Sun is king and Moon is queen so they have their cabinet of captains, advisers etc. Another one said, Sun is Atma and Moon is Manas, so they have the rulership of their ayana. But, you answered, No, atma is also required in Moon half and Manas is required in Sun's half. And you gave the hint that the answer lies in Tatwa.

Now, even after the lesson 10, we are not sure, why luminaries have one sign. Is it like, father and mother? Dhaknayana refers to the entire father and the related 5 planet rulership with different tatwa. Similarly, Uttarayana refers to mother and 5 planets and tatwa. Is it like that? Or Is it like Rama and Krishna. Dhaknayana is lord Rama and he needs only one sign and all other tatwa are under him. Similarly, Krishna for the Uttarayana. Is it correct?

Question No 3.

In continuation to the 2nd question, what shall be the effect of dividing the chart into two halves of Uttarayan and Dhaknayana, on the signs? We studied the Guna of sign based on the Kendra, tatwa of sign based on Trikona. Similarly, when we divide the chart into two, how they influence the signs in the respective half? Is it like Signs in Dhaknayana will be like father / manas / Rama / Active like day operation and Signs in Uttarayana will be like mother / Atma / Krishna / Passive like the night ??

Question No 4.

In the lesson # 10, it is mentioned that 1st trikona is Present, 5th trikona is future, 9th trikona is past. What is the logic behind this? 5th house is normally the Poorva Punya house, what we inherit from the past birth. I couldn't correlate, please help.

Question No 5.

In the lesson # 10, it is mentioned under the paragraph Nature of the planets, for Sun: " .....rules the Ayana (for fructification of results in dasha periods).....". What is this ayana? Is it Dhakshnayana? How is it helps in fructification of results in dasha periods?

Question No. 6.

Thanks for the simple diagram explaining the lunar movement. In the diagram, the powerful or benefic moon is referred as period between Shukla Ekadsi and Krishna Panchami, whereas in the text portion under Moon, it is mentioned as Shukla ashtami to Krishna ashtami. Which one is correct?

Thanks

Your sisya

Solai Kannan