Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 Hamsa Om So'ham Dear YND, 1. I have given the Vriddha Karika for the three pair method in my book. There are 11 Rudra in all and one Maheswara. That makes 12 " 8th house Lords " for the 12 signs. As regards Rudra for Lagna, then it has to be different from the Lagna Lord. That is why the planet in the 8th from the 8th houd is chosen. 2. ATRA KETU SUBHA Ganesha and Moksha are considered beneficial concepts in Hindu Dharma. These cause pain to the mind and many tensions. Hence for Udu Dasa generated from the Lagna (Dhi Shakti) or Moon (Mana) it is considered a malefic. Om Tat Sat Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - YND <vedant <varahamihira > Thursday, March 09, 2000 10:39 PM [Jagannath] Questions on ayurdaya Dear Gurudev, My respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath. Some questions on longevity. 1. We need to determine the 8th lord for different purposes - for the three pair method, for the 8th from the stronger of 1st or 7th as well as for Determinging Rudra. Question - in case it is the same as Ascendant lord - should we go by logic 8th from this lord - in the cases of determining Rudra and 8th from the 1st/7th? 2. When judging the Shoola dasas, should Ketu be considered as malefic or benefic? Your shishya Yasomatinandana das -----Èñõîäíîå ñîîáùåíèå----- Îò: Pt Sanjay Rath <guru Êîìó: varahamihira <varahamihira > Äàòà: 9 ìàðòà 2000 ã. 0:29 Òåìà: [Jagannath] Re: Sanjay's deities Jaya Jagannath Dear Narasimha. Thank you for this inspiration. My comments are below yours in bold letters to differentiate:- Jaya Jaya Narasimha Pranaam Sanjay, RATH; THE MANTRA IS " JAYA JAYA SRI NRISIMHA " ..YOU MISSED OUT " SRI " . BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH. I am grateful for this fantastic lesson on D-60! My father always taught me that Narasimha (angry form of Narayana) should be worshipped to keep Rahu under check. This is especially true if Rahu is in a Mercurian sign (which is the case in your D-1 and D-60). RATH: I AGREE, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHER MANTRA AS WELL. I LIKE NARASIMHA VERY MUCH AND YOU WILL FIND A NUMBER OF NARASIMHA MANTRA IN MY BOOK. Narasimha is the lord of all mantra and tantra. He controls all the deities who act as the media for different tantras and mantras and all the negative spirits are afraid of him. RATH: SINCE OUR PRAYERS ARE TAKEN TO THE GODS THROUGH THE AGNI TATWA (ENERGY MEDIUM) WHICH IS RULED BY MARS AND SUN, HENCE YOUR STATEMENT IS CORRECT, BUT NOT COMPLETE. THERE IS YET ANOTHER MORE SWEETER FORM OF AGNI ...THE SUN OR LIGHT INSTEAD OF THE HEAT OF MARS. IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT THE NARASIMHA BEEJA IS NOT THE NATURAL AGNI BEEJA AND INSTEAD, THE FIRST LETTER OF THE NAME OF RAMA IS. THE VAHNI (AGNI) BEEJAKSHARA IS " RAM " . NOW YOU SEE WHY KRISHNA TEACHES....AMONG WARRIORS I AM RAM. Sanjaya, after reading what you wrote, my sincere advice is: read " Mantra Raja Pada Stotram " written by Shiva everyday. RATH: THANKS FOR THIS EXCELLENT ADVISE NARASIMHA. I WILL SURELY WORSHIP HIM, BUT NOT WITH AN UGRAMANTRA. THERE ARE SOME OTHER MANTRA OF NARASIMHA, ESPECIALLY WITH SRI OR LAKSHMI. Parvati asks Shiva: " mantraanaam paramam mantram guhyaanaam guhyameva cha bruhi me naarasimhasya tattvam mantrasya durlabham " (The greatest of all mantras, the most hidable of all secrets, teach me Lord Narasimha's nature, which is tough to be captured by any mantra) Then Shiva recites " Mantra Raja Pada Stotram " for her. The language and expression are absolutely beautiful. " jyotinshyarkendu nakshatra jwalanaadeenyanukramaat jwalanti tejasaa yasya tam jwalantam namaamyaham " How beautiful! Shiva said: " yannaama smaranaadbheetaa bhoota bhetaala raakshasaah rogaadyaascha pranasyanti bheeshanam tam namaamyaham " So Narasimha's worship is the answer to the provocations and temptations that you said you face. I hope you will see merit in my suggestion. If you don't have " Mantra Raja Pada Stotram " , I can send it as text or as a RealPlayer audio file! RATH: I WILL APPRECIATE THE TEXT FOR THE JYOTISH NEWS AS WELL FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL. In your D-9, 12th from AK has Mercury. But Mercury is in a fiery sign (Leo) and fiery Sun aspects him! Mercury suggests Vishnu, but Mercury with some fiery influences suggests Narasimha. Please remember that Narasimha is just another form of Jagannatha. RATH: YES, ALL THESE ARE FORMS OF JAGANNATH ULTIMATELY. THE TECHNICAL POINT YOU HAVE GIVEN IS NOT CORRECT AND I THINK YOU HAVE STRETCHED THE RULES THIS TIME. SUN INFLUENCING THE MERCURY WILL INDICATE SRI RAMACHANDRA. Worship of Narasimha will help you in overcoming the problems and finding the goal of your soul. RATH: FOR ME THE GOAL IS JAGANNATH. THIS IS FINAL AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER DESIRE HIGHER THAN THIS. I.E. I HAVE SO MANY OTHER DESIRES (I AM BEING TRUTHFUL), BUT THEY ARE NOT ABOVE HIM. * * * I am still not convinced why your D-60 lagna must be Cn and not Ge. My intuition tells me it is Ge. Let us say lagna is Ge in your D-60. Still, Venus, Mars, Saturn and nodes in quadrants makes you a tapaswi and a Tantrik. Rahu in tamasik Virgo in the 4th shows tanrik learning again. Mercury in 5th and exalted Jupiter in 2nd show that you were a good Jyotish in your previous life (which must be the case, given your tremendous growth as a Jyotish in this life). RATH: THE BEST PLACEMENT FOR JYOTISH IS JUPITER IN LAGNA. I WAS A JYOTISH OF SOME CALIBRE IN LAST BIRTH ..THIS IS OBVIOUS, BUT IF THE D-60 LAGNA WAS GEMINI I WOULD HAVE ROTTED INSTEAD OF COMING OUT DUE TO A MOST ABLE GURU. DO YOU REALLY FEEL THAT THE SARPA YOGA BROKEN BY VENUS FOR GEMINI LAGNA WOULD HAVE ALLOWED JUPITER TO FLORISH? IN ANY CASE, MAKE THE ARUDHA LA GNA AND THE UPAPADA AND A WHOLE LIFE STORY WILL COME OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. KETU IS IN AL IN PISCES FOR CANCER RISING...THESAME COMBINATION..BIRTH IN A FAMILY HAVING THE JYOTISH TRADITION IN THE LAST BIRTH AS WELL. SEE THE UPAPADA IN THE 12TH FROM AL...THE LORD OF UPAPADA AND THE 7TH HOUSE ARE IN 12TH HOUSE..WIFE IS FROM ABROAD OR FAR AWAY OR DOES NOT MARRY, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RELATIONS OF VENUS SINCE THE SEVENTH LORD FROM VENUS IS MERCURY IN A MOVABLE SIGN..LIBRA. WIFE IS DEFINITELY FROM A LONG DISTANCE IN THE NORTHERN DIRECTION QUESTIONS: 1.DID I LEAVE MY LAND AND HOME AND GO AWAY? ...FORGET IT I AM UNNECESSARILY GOING TOO FAR. IT DOES NOT MATTER. I don't understand why you rule out Ge lagna in your D-60. My intuition is in favor of Ge. RATH: WELL... * * * I am not into mantra and tantra. I am in fact put off by tantra. I believe in devotion and I will prefer to read a long stotra whose meaning I understand, appreciate and feel, rather than a strange-sounding mantra that is supposed to be powerful. I never tried any tantra and don't intend to. It puts me off. RATH: WHEN THE MANTRA IS TRANSMITTED AND YOU KNOW HOW TO INSTALL IT IN THE MIND, THEN THERE IS NO NECTAR SWEETER THAN THE MANTRA. STOTRA HELP TO DEVELOP BHAKTI AND EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT. When I read or hear new things related to astrology or Sanskrit language and grammar (etymology etc), I many times feel as if I already knew it. I don't get a similar feeling with other subjects, but I sometimes recognize Sanskrit words I never saw before and immediately figure out their vyutpatti. Like your tantric skills, my skills in Sanskrit grammar must've followed from me from my previous life. But I have Jupiter and Ketu in the 4th house in D-60. I was expecting Mercury's influence, because he rules grammar etc. Mercury aspects Jupiter and Ketu in 4th from the 9th house Libra. Lagna lord Saturn is exalted and joins Mercury in 9th. Does this show that I knew Sanskrit language, grammar and Jyotish in previous life? How? RATH: SEND YOUR D-1, D-9,D-12, D-60 & D-108 CHARTS. NO COMMENTS UNTIL I SEE THEM. ALSO PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR VIEWS ON WHY YOU FEEL IT IS THE RIGHT CHART...PLEASE QUOTE THE JYOTISH RULE FOR KNOWLEDGE OF GRAMMER. BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH, SANJAY > Hamsa Om So'ham > Dear Narasimha, > The D-60 Chart of mine is as under. While the presence > of the exalted Moon in the 12th from AK shows a deity, it > cannot be feminine as the Moon is exalted. Use the same > principles for determining sex as we do for children in > saptamsa or co-born in in Drekkana. Thus, the Moon is a > male and this is aspected by Mercury and the Sun. Thus , > the specific mantra that I used in my last birth should be > associated with Hari (Merc) Rama (Sun) and Krishna (Moon). > Perhaps that is why I was reborn in Balabhadrapur sasan in > Puri. > Now, the Martian worship of past life is seen from the > fifth lordship of Mars and its placement in the sixth > house with Venus and aspected by Saturn & Rahu... > Tantricism is indicated clearly as Jaimini clearly says > that Venus afflicted by saturn and any other malefic can > give tantricism. Beneficial aspect makes the person use > this for good purposes. Now, the knowledge of Tantra has > been following me from my last birth. You can see how the > AK saturn is also clearly involved and FOUR MALEFICS > Saturn, Rahu, Ketu & Mars are in the picture with the > venus giving a great tapaswi Yoga for this tantricism. The > absence of a single beneficial aspect from Moon, Merc or > Jupiter shows that I MISUSED THIS KNOWLEDGE SOMETIMES. > Later, thanks to the exalted Guru in Lagna I found the > right path and hence I was reborn in Jagannath Puri. I am > still being punished for that misuse of the knowledge and > EVEN TODAY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAINLY THOSE > DABBLING WITH TANTRICISM OF THE DARK KIND WHO TRY TO > PROVOKE ME INTO GETTING BACK, but the Moon has been very > kind. In this birth the Moon is in Pisces Navamsa > aspecting the AK Saturn thereby coming to calm my agitated > mind just like Krishna playing His flute to keep His flock > together. > I have seen some of the most deadliest Tantriks at > work and have laughed and even slept in the same room > where the Pooja was conducted ...as if I know it all, as > if I am very close to all that they are doing having done > it so many times in the past. For example, when Bhagawan > Mishra was doing the Bagalamukhi Brahmastra Pooja I knew > the color, the left hand offering and what not all..these > things are very powerful and keep coming back. Everytime I > run a sub or sus-sub period of Rahu, the provocation to > get back becomes very intense. I am running Merc-Merc-Rahu > right now and there is one so called Prophet of Doom or > Master of Rahu-Sikhi who has provoked me, at least tried > to..thanks to Jagannath Mahaprabhu I have not fallen as > yet. My faith is still strong and inspite of so many calls > to go back, I am sticking to Jagannath. > The reason is clear. My goal is to be strong and face > all the suffering so that my paapa ends...some day He > shall have mercy. D-60 Chart is below. > Om Tat Sat > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | Ket | GL | Cha | SanR | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | | | Lag | > | | | | > | | | Gur | > | | | | > |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------| > | | | | > | Rav | | | > | | | | > | HL | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | Suk | | | | > | | | Glk | | > | Kuj | | | Rah | > | | | Bud | | > | BL | | | | > +----------------------+ ------ HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click./1/2130/3/_/2192/_/952542125/ -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- /docvault/varahamihira/?m=1 ---------- HARE RAMA KRISHNA ---------- eGroups.com Home: varahamihira www. - Simplifying group communications ------ HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ Planning a party? iParty.com is your complete source for party planning and supplies, with everything you need to throw the perfect party! http://click./1/1635/3/_/2192/_/952622617/ -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- /docvault/varahamihira/?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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