Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna, Namaste better late than newer Now... anything that I would have to say about Shiva Yoga would sound pretty much " pathetic " comparing to what you could read if you follow this link: http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/11/27/sakti-yoga/ (I am so glad about finding this article in English so you could enjoy it in original form!) Warm regards, Maja , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, Namaste. > > Not just two girls, I have the third one in my lap now in the form of my grand daughter! > > As my Sat-Moon period has just started, I have decided to take control of my short temper and discipline myself. I have started reading Bhagavadgita and that has made to take this step. By the way, I am doing quite well over the past one week :-) > > I agree with you that there is cancellation of Sun's debilitation in Navamsha. I don't know anything about Shiva Yoga. Please give me pointers to understand the same. > > I wish all your dreams come true. > > Regards, > Krishna > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna, > > Namaste > > oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some > day. > > Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well > how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved > to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members(but > they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that your > colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have > that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great would > it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that > the more times you " count to ten " and say what you have in a > different way, the less times you will even feel need to " count to > ten " . Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so you > could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that Chandra > in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, doesn't > matter so much. > > I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of this > thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even > possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . Nothing > surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish > Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that > both luminaries are so important about that issue. > > Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, it > is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, but > good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply yet) > Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that > we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. > Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra > from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. And > I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think > that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this knowledge. > Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but it > is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. > > My warmest regards to you and your whole family, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you > could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail > even more sweet :-) > > > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. > Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most > is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that > someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your > advice seriously :-) > > > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements > cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. > Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets > contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned > that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. > Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I > see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong > position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given > some other sources of strength for Surya. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I > > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks > at > > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > > change some more Sy. > > > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of > such > > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. > You > > really enjoy this. > > > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but > > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your > > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to > all > > members of your family (especially female members). Even when > they > > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. > > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > > without reasonable cause. > > > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions > which > > lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration > > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject > of > > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What > do > > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices > can > > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe > that > > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, > and > > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or > in > > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is > mixture > > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is > > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, > please, > > I would be glad to read it. > > > > Warm regards, > > Maja > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) > Sometimes, > > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen > my > > bursts many times :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born > on > > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your > chart, > > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > > However, > > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you > think > > has > > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > > 6:15 am > > > > Bangalore > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > > and > > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of > Saturn > > or > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the > person > > is > > > very sensitive. > > > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and > this > > > borders insanity. > > > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon > as > > > strong > > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra > such > > as > > > 10th > > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th > as > > > weak > > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by > which > > > planet > > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean > other > > 8 > > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or > loneliness > > > example > > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly > placed > > rahu > > > > ?????? > > > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects > me > > > worst > > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only > depression > > > and > > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > > overcome > > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am > depressed > > and > > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see > movies > > or > > > watch > > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > > will > > > talk > > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and > keep > > on > > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont > BELIEVE > > > VISTIJI > > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly > depression > > will > > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc > > etc > > > etc > > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one > being > > > VENUS > > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > > BADHAKA > > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF > THIS > > > MOON > > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > > DEPRESSION > > > AND > > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > > JUPITER > > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > > > Thanking u > > > > prathosh > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Dear Maja,Thanks alot for the pointer. I will go through this.Regards,Krishnamajastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Krishna, Namaste better late than newer Now... anything that I would have to say about Shiva Yoga would sound pretty much "pathetic" comparing to what you could read if you follow this link: http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/11/27/sakti-yoga/ (I am so glad about finding this article in English so you could enjoy it in original form!) Warm regards, Maja , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Maja, Namaste. > > Not just two girls, I have the third one in my lap now in the form of my grand daughter! > > As my Sat-Moon period has just started, I have decided to take control of my short temper and discipline myself. I have started reading Bhagavadgita and that has made to take this step. By the way, I am doing quite well over the past one week :-) > > I agree with you that there is cancellation of Sun's debilitation in Navamsha. I don't know anything about Shiva Yoga. Please give me pointers to understand the same. > > I wish all your dreams come true. > > Regards, > Krishna > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Krishna, > > Namaste > > oh, daughters, so sweet... I would like to have at least one some > day. > > Yes, stupidity, lies, bad intensions… I can understand quite well > how much this can upset you. Yet, when there are malefics involved > to Chandra, hardest task is to be tolerant to family members(but > they deserve it more than anyone on planet). When I read that your > colleagues never see you in such mood, and family members do have > that opportunity sometimes, it just crossed my mind how great would > it be if this was just reversed. Don't worry, soon you'll see that > the more times you "count to ten" and say what you have in a > different way, the less times you will even feel need to "count to > ten". Chandra is something you need to nourish in your chart, so you > could have more peace of mind. Although it is so great that Chandra > in this case is in high dignity. As far as your colleagues, doesn't > matter so much. > > I saw that you got two almost identical replies at one point of this > thread, one from Rafal and another from me (there is even > possibility that we typed those emails at the same time . Nothing > surprising, I belong to same Jyotish linage where he is a Jyotish > Guru. It was very helpful from his email to finally find out that > both luminaries are so important about that issue. > > Surya is not as bad in Navamsa as you might think at first. Yes, it > is in debilitation sign; yes, it is in same sign where Rahu is, but > good news. (I already wrote about it, but I did not see a reply yet) > Anyway, there is cancellation of debility in Navamsa. To find that > we observe lord of exaltation sign for Surya and that is Mangal. > Mangal in your Navamsa is in exaltation sign and it is in Kendra > from Surya and lagna as well. That makes situation much better. And > I think there is a better side of Sy/Ra yoga in Navamsa. I think > that it is good to have Surya in Karakamsa sign for this knowledge. > Even if Ak is Rahu. Maybe that yoga is a little bit painful, but it > is still Shiva Yoga. Have that in mind. > > My warmest regards to you and your whole family, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > That was a very sweet mail! I have two daughters. Possibly, you > could be of the age of one of my daughters. That makes your mail > even more sweet :-) > > > > You are right that I am never upset without a reasonable cause. > Even my family members acknowledge that. What provokes me the most > is when see someone behaving stupidly or when I discover that > someone has lied to me. In any case, I will definitely take your > advice seriously :-) > > > > Coming back to the discussion about depression and which elements > cause it. What I believe is that it is primarily Lagna and Chandra. > Surya also comes into picture being lagnakaraka. What other planets > contribute depends upon their influence on the above three. > > > > Though you see a lot of Surya in my chart, I was a bit concerned > that Surya is debilitated in navamsha as someone also pointed out. > Probably, this is one of the few negatives in my chart. However, I > see that things are not too bad as Surya holds such a strong > position in Rasi and panchanga. Added to it, Rafal has also given > some other sources of strength for Surya. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Krishna Namaste, > > > > this morning sky was cloudy until I opened your chart :) I > > mean, when one enters your birth data in J.Hora program and looks > at > > Pancang section, almost everything is Sy; Sy; Sy; oh, and for a > > change some more Sy. > > > > Well... I also wanted to add that I am very glad that owner of > such > > chart is in Jyotish story. Even Navamsa is interesting as well. > You > > really enjoy this. > > > > I could be your daughter and with all my respect to your age, but > > with such aspects on Chandra (fortunately in mooltrikona) in your > > chart, please try to be as much diplomatic, polite and nice to > all > > members of your family (especially female members). Even when > they > > are very in wrong. Count to 10 first whenever you feel upset. > > That might help. Although I do admit that you were newer upset > > without reasonable cause. > > > > Seems to me that this discussion over clearing out positions > which > > lead in depression is more going towards taking in consideration > > both luminaries, rather than just Chandra. Yet, there was one > > explanation on the very beginning of this thread (though subject > of > > that email was named differently, I can not remember) that each > > graha is mind level. That one seems more acceptable to me. What > do > > you think? I also think that weak and very afflicted benefices > can > > lead in such state. Chandra and Surya as first in line. Maybe > that > > would bring the importance of lagna and 4th bhava lord as well, > and > > their position. Weak malefic (Sani and Rahu as first) on lagna or > in > > trines (respectively) could also lead to same. If there is > mixture > > of all these positions in chart, that could be such case. This is > > just an opinion. If you (or someone else) have any comment, > please, > > I would be glad to read it. > > > > Warm regards, > > Maja > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > Yes, you are right. I am cheerful most of the times :-) > Sometimes, > > I get short temper. But, I cool down equally fast. Though my > > colleagues at work have not seen me get angry, my family has seen > my > > bursts many times :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Krishna Namste, > > > > > > WOW! That is one very bright Surya in chart. And you were born > on > > > Sunday morning (in Surya Hora...). Apart from rest of your > chart, > > > those position are considered to make native very cheerful. > > > > > > I am waiting for more comments on your chart. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > > > > > My chart has both the indicators that you have mentioned. > > However, > > > I am far from any depression kind of problems. What do you > think > > has > > > saved me from the trouble? > > > > > > > > 7-Sep-1958 > > > > 6:15 am > > > > Bangalore > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > & #2361; & #2352; & #2375; & #2352; & #2366; & #2350; > > > & #2325; & #2371; & #2359; & #2381; & #2339; > > > > Dear Pratosh, Namaskar. > > > > I will repeat the yoga. Its VERY specific. > > > > 1. Moon must be in Kendra to Mercury > > > > and > > > > 2. Moon must receive the touch (aspect/conjunction) of > Saturn > > or > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > If Rahu touches then the person experience alot of mental > > > confusion and can believe things which are not real. > > > > If Saturn touches then depression can be deep and the > person > > is > > > very sensitive. > > > > > > > > If in addition to this the fifth house from Atmakaraka is > > > affected then the native suffers deeply throughout life and > this > > > borders insanity. > > > > > > > > Hope this clarifies. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > prathoshg skrev: > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > 1.Moon is karaka for mind and if yes How do we define moon > as > > > strong > > > > or weak ex can we say moon in neecha but still in kendra > such > > as > > > 10th > > > > is strong moon ??????? and also moon is exalted and in 8th > as > > > weak > > > > moon ???????? pls give clear explanation of this > > > > > > > > 2.Depression and loneliness to worst extreme is given by > which > > > planet > > > > is that only SATURN ????????????? Other than that u mean > other > > 8 > > > > planets even badly placed wont give depression or > loneliness > > > example > > > > a badly placed venus or a badly placed sun or a badly > placed > > rahu > > > > ?????? > > > > > > > > 3.I Feel personally this depression and loneliness affects > me > > > worst > > > > than all human being in world i feel specially only > depression > > > and > > > > loneliness is affecting me worst i will give ex vistiji > > > > > > > > suppose if ur having some depression any person will try to > > > overcome > > > > but what is my depression doing is even though i am > depressed > > and > > > > lonely i am not able to come out like people will see > movies > > or > > > watch > > > > cricket or read books or go out or hang out with friends or > > will > > > talk > > > > to family or will keep themselves busy very much > > > > > > > > but my problem is I dont have intrst in any of these and > keep > > on > > > > thinking only abt depression 24 hrs for 3 yrs u wont > BELIEVE > > > VISTIJI > > > > 24 HRS DEPRESSION IN MIND.... how come such badly > depression > > will > > > > affect why cant other planet help here???// > > > > > > > > why i dont have intrst in movies or hobbies or books or etc > > etc > > > etc > > > > is it bec of 3 planets in 12th house of loneliness one > being > > > VENUS > > > > PLANET OF JOY ????????????/ > > > > LAST IMP THING > > > > > > > > SATURN ASPECTING MOON AND I AM IN MOON DASHA WANING MOON AS > > > BADHAKA > > > > 9TH LORD....AND SATURN IN LAGNA IN SCORPIO WHETHER BEC OF > THIS > > > MOON > > > > DASHA WHETHER DEPRESSION IS IN PEAK??????????????? > > > > > > > > PLS TELL ME PRACTICALLY WHICH PLANET HOLDS THE KEY TO > > DEPRESSION > > > AND > > > > LONELINESS > > > > > > > > AND WHY CANT OTHER PLANETS LIKE SUN MARS VENUS AND BENEFIC > > > JUPITER > > > > CANT HELP?????????????? > > > > > > > > Thanking u > > > > prathosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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