D-30 analysis

April 19, 2009

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear All,

Its seems if someone is serious about spiritual advancement they would want to understand their sins , so with this in mind I read Sanjays article on Trimsamsa.

I still feel confused on some issues. If someone feels they have a handle on D-30 analysis can you please post a few charts with analysis. Id like to get more of an idea , how to use it.

Timing of the acts of sin is this only seen in Rasi, or can we see in Trimsamsa?

..or is this timing the results of the sins? If so , what about Mula dasa as it shows timing for curses, which also are apart of sin.

Well, does d-30 show past life sins, current lifetimes sin, future sins. all sins?(6th house/8th house only?)

How to understand kendras and trine in D-30.

Does Jupiter show forgiveness, what shows penance ? done?

Paryaya Dasa is only what is to be used for D-30.?

Below is a sample chart

THANK-YOU

Lakshmi

Trimsamsa of george W bush D-30+--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Ma / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / Ju \ / || \ / \ / ||Mo AL x Ra As Ke x || / \ /

\ || / \ Ve / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 8 / \ || / \

/ \ || x || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \

/ \ / || \ / Md \ / || \ / \ / ||Me HL x Sa x || /

\ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / GL \ / Su \ ||

/ \ / Gk \ |+--------------+

April 20, 2009

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear AJ,

Thanks for your reply!

I can understand the concept. but in the charts I have tried to look at I am not able to make connections between the indications in D-30 and what I know about the person ,etc.

So I guess you can say Im lost in terms of the finer aspects of analysis of D-30.

Looking at George Bushs D-30 can you draw some conclusions?

Best wishes

Lakshmi

below another chart D-30 of murderer of pregnant wife

Trimsamsa D-30+--------------+| \ Ve Ra / \ / || \ Me / \ / || \ Ke Md / \ /

|| \ / Mo \ / || \ / \ / ||SaR AL x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / GL \ 6 / Gk \ || / \ / \

|| Ju x HL || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Ma x x || / \ /

\ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Su \ / \ || / \

/ \ |+--------------+ scott peterson

Natal Chart

October 24, 1972Time: 9:36:00 amTime Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 117 W 09' 23", 32 N 42' 55" San Diego, California, USAAltitude: 40.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Paridhavi - AswayujaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (48.00% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (14.02% left)Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (4.85% left)Karana: Vishti (Sa) (95.99% left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Cn)Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Mercury)

Sunrise: 7:03:60 amSunset: 6:01:11 pmJanma Ghatis: 6.3337

Ayanamsa: 23-28-54.42Sidereal Time: 11:00:04

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 9 Sc 29' 36.47" Anu 2 Sc ViSun - GK 7 Li 53' 22.92" Swat 1 Li SgMoon - PK 8 Ta 07' 48.60" Krit 4 Ta PiMars - MK 21 Vi 54' 59.71" Hast 4 Vi CnMercury - AmK 28 Li 38' 59.86" Visa 3 Li GeJupiter - PiK 10 Sg 15' 21.47" Mool 4

Sg CnVenus - AK 29 Le 06' 20.55" UPha 1 Le SgSaturn ® - BK 26 Ta 40' 23.41" Mrig 2 Ta ViRahu - DK 27 Sg 23' 15.57" USha 1 Sg SgKetu 27 Ge 23' 15.57" Puna 3 Ge GeMaandi 29 Sg 38' 11.90" USha 1 Sg SgGulika 19 Sg 00' 35.05"

PSha 2 Sg ViUranus 26 Vi 01' 46.93" Chit 1 Vi LeNeptune 10 Sc 18' 02.24" Anu 3 Sc LiPluto 9 Vi 31' 30.60" UPha 4 Vi PiBhava Lagna 15 Sc 47' 11.19" Anu 4 Sc ScHora Lagna 23 Sg 47' 18.12" PSha 4 Sg ScGhati

Lagna 17 Ar 47' 38.90" Bhar 2 Ar ViVighati Lagna 17 Sc 49' 22.81" Jye 1 Sc SgVarnada Lagna 9 Sg 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Sg ArSree Lagna 19 Vi 00' 28.58" Hast 3 Vi GePranapada Lagna 17 Sc 55' 41.47" Jye 1 Sc SgIndu Lagna 8 Vi 07' 48.60" UPha 4 Vi

PiDhooma 21 Aq 13' 22.92" PBha 1 Aq ArVyatipata 8 Ta 46' 37.08" Krit 4 Ta PiParivesha 8 Sc 46' 37.08" Anu 2 Sc ViIndra Chapa 21 Le 13' 22.92" PPha 3 Le LiUpaketu 7 Vi 53' 22.92" UPha 4 Vi PiKaala 22 Aq 39' 20.82"

PBha 1 Aq ArMrityu 16 Li 22' 52.86" Swat 3 Li AqArtha Prahara 3 Sc 28' 44.90" Anu 1 Sc LeYama Ghantaka 20 Sc 48' 14.14" Jye 2 Sc CpPrana Sphuta 6 Cp 28' 37.41" USha 3 Cp AqDeha Sphuta 24 Li 03' 03.82" Visa 2 Li TaMrityu Sphuta 20 Li 57' 28.29" Visa

1 Li ArSookshma TriSphuta 21 Aq 29' 09.52" PBha 1 Aq ArTriSphuta 6 Vi 38' 00.12" UPha 3 Vi AqChatusSphuta 14 Pi 31' 23.04" UBha 4 Pi ScPanchaSphuta 11 Sg 54' 38.61" Mool 4 Sg CnV2 9 Vi 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Vi CnV3 9 Le 29' 36.47"

Aswi 1 Le LeV4 9 Cp 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Cp ScV5 9 Ar 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Ar SgV6 9 Cp 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Cp PiV7 9 Le 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Le

ArV8 9 Vi 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Vi CnV9 9 Sg 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Sg LeV10 9 Ta 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Ta ScV11 9 Ar 29' 36.47" Aswi 1 Ar SgV12 9 Ta 29' 36.47" Aswi

1 Ta PiKunda 18 Le 58' 14.17" PPha 2 Le Vi

Rasi +--------------+| \ Ra HL / \ Me / || \ Ju / \ Su / || \ Md Gk / \ /

|| \ / \ / || \ / \ / || x As x Ma || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 8 / \ || / \ / \

|| x Ve || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \

/ || \ / SaR \ / || \ / \ / || x Mo x AL || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / GL \ / Ke \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Sun Sun 1967-08-27 Moon 1967-12-14 Mars 1968-06-12 Rah 1968-10-21 Jup 1969-09-14 Sat 1970-07-02 Merc 1971-06-13 Ket 1972-04-17 Ven 1972-08-27 Moon Moon 1973-08-27 Mars 1974-06-25 Rah 1975-01-24 Jup 1976-07-26 Sat 1977-11-26 Merc 1979-06-26 Ket 1980-11-26 Ven 1981-06-25 Sun 1983-02-23 Mars Mars 1983-08-28 Rah 1984-01-21 Jup 1985-02-07 Sat 1986-01-15 Merc 1987-02-23 Ket 1988-02-20 Ven 1988-07-20 Sun 1989-09-21 Moon 1990-01-24 Rah Rah 1990-08-27 Jup 1993-05-06 Sat 1995-10-04 Merc 1998-08-09 Ket 2001-02-22

Ven 2002-03-13 Sun 2005-03-12 Moon 2006-02-05 Mars 2007-08-09 Jup Jup 2008-08-27 Sat 2010-10-15 Merc 2013-04-24 Ket 2015-08-03 Ven 2016-07-08 Sun 2019-03-07 Moon 2019-12-26 Mars 2021-04-24 Rah 2022-03-31 Sat Sat 2024-08-27 Merc 2027-08-31 Ket 2030-05-07 Ven 2031-06-17 Sun 2034-08-18 Moon 2035-07-31 Mars 2037-02-26 Rah 2038-04-06 Jup 2041-02-11 Merc Merc 2043-08-28 Ket 2046-01-21 Ven 2047-01-19 Sun 2049-11-20 Moon 2050-09-27 Mars 2052-02-24 Rah 2053-02-20 Jup 2055-09-12 Sat 2057-12-17 Ket Ket 2060-08-27 Ven

2061-01-21 Sun 2062-03-22 Moon 2062-07-31 Mars 2063-02-26 Rah 2063-07-28 Jup 2064-08-15 Sat 2065-07-21 Merc 2066-08-31 Ven Ven 2067-08-28 Sun 2070-12-26 Moon 2071-12-27 Mars 2073-08-28 Rah 2074-10-28 Jup 2077-10-28 Sat 2080-06-26 Merc 2083-08-28 Ket 2086-06-26

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote:

Arpad Joo <panchasila Re: D-30 analysissohamsa Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 7:29 PM

Hare Rama Krishna,Dear Lakshmi,I always take D-30 into account and analysis, when looking at a chart.I have articulated to myself D-30 as the chart of the "papa purusha". In Jungian terms, it even might be called the shadow, that mysterious collection of all repressed complexes, memories, hurts,and evil karma.(brought over from previous lifes).D-30, then again- has a lot to do with some "veera" tantric practices, such as "Chaya Upasana" or even Shava saddhana.As most of us are not "veeras", we have to go easy on this.In another tradition,(Quabbali stic circles) D-30 is called the "Guardian of the treshhold". At a certain point in the sadhana, this collection of unpaid debts,evil karmas and conglomeration of "sins", will congeal - as it were- and the sadhak has to face head on on this monster. And monster it is!It is said, that there is a lesser and a greater Guardian.A brilliant description might be gleaned from Rudolf

Steiner's "Knowledge of the Higher Worlds and it's attainment." There, he has a very good, if somewhat romanticised account of this "Guardian".One HAS TO face All THE accumlated bad karmas and will have to confront this "guardian" sooner of later. Tantrics usually do it in cremation grounds.As this forum is devoted and dedicated to Jyotish and a particular parampara, I will not dwell on this here.I always take into account the transits (rashi) to D-30. Especially to the moon, by Saturn (of course) Rahu and Ketu.When Jupiter comes to trines (in transit), it will show the possibility of relief through saddhana. (Relief here means - integration, release.)With deep respect to all:AJsohamsa@ .com, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote:>>

Hare Rama Krishna> Dear All,> Its seems if someone is serious about spiritual advancement they would want to understand their sins , so with this in mind I read Sanjays article on Trimsamsa.> I still feel confused on some issues. If someone feels they have a handle on D-30 analysis can you please post a few charts with analysis. Id like to get more of an idea , how to use it.> Timing of the acts of sin is this only seen in Rasi, or can we see in Trimsamsa?> ..or is this timing the results of the sins? If so , what about Mula dasa as it shows timing for curses, which also are apart of sin.> > Well, does d-30 show past life sins, current lifetimes sin, future sins. all sins?(6th house/8th house only?)> How to understand kendras and trine in D-30.> Does Jupiter show forgiveness, what shows penance ? done?> Paryaya Dasa is only what is to be used for D-30.?> Below

is a sample chart > THANK-YOU> Lakshmi> Trimsamsa of george W bush D-30> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> | \ / \ / |> | \ Ma / \ / |> | \

/ \ / |> | \ / Ju \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Mo AL x Ra As Ke x |> | /

\ / \ |> | / \ Ve / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 8 / \ |> |

/ \ / \ |> | x |> | \ / \ / |> | \ /

\ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Md \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Me HL x

Sa x |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / GL

\ / Su \ |> | / \ / Gk \ |> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> >

April 22, 2009

Namaste AJ

Take your time. No hurries. Whenever you are comfortable, do mail an analysis. I'm looking forward to it.

-Regards

Rajarshi

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 22/4/09, Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote:

Arpad Joo <panchasila Re: D-30 analysissohamsa Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 9:24 AM

Hare Rama Krishna,Dear Rajarshi,a serious question requires an equally serious and careful answer.Please give me a few days for this, as I am "snowed under" as it were with a lot of work, just now and I do not have the time to give you a detailed answer.Generally speaking, it may be difficult to ascertain saddhanas from D6, D8,D12 and D30- as these show the "shadow".The usual rules will apply using mainly the D9,D20 and D60. And of course also D1. (Mantra Bhava and A5 specifically) (Definitely, if someone is gravitating toward these type of endeavour, it will come from a previous life and the seeds were there already.Hence D60)I will try to answer you to the best of my ability.With deep respect to all:AJsohamsa@ .com, rajarshi nandy

<rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste AJ> > Can you kindly elaborate a bit more on finding out about "veera" tantrik sadhanas from a d30 chart. To see whether the same is applicable for an individual or not..> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, Arpad Joo <panchasila@ ...> wrote:> > > Arpad Joo <panchasila@ ...>> Re: D-30 analysis> sohamsa@ .com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 7:59 AM> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Dear Lakshmi,> >

I always take D-30 into account and analysis, when looking at a chart.I have articulated to myself D-30 as the chart of the "papa purusha". In Jungian terms, it even might be called the shadow, that mysterious collection of all repressed complexes, memories, hurts,and evil karma.(brought over from previous lifes).D-30, then again- has a lot to do with some "veera" tantric practices, such as "Chaya Upasana" or even Shava saddhana.As most of us are not "veeras", we have to go easy on this.> In another tradition,(Quabbali stic circles) D-30 is called the "Guardian of the treshhold". At a certain point in the sadhana, this collection of unpaid debts,evil karmas and conglomeration of "sins", will congeal - as it were- and the sadhak has to face head on on this monster. And monster it is!It is said, that there is a lesser and a greater Guardian.> A brilliant description might be gleaned from Rudolf Steiner's "Knowledge of the Higher Worlds and

it's attainment." There, he has a very good, if somewhat romanticised account of this "Guardian".> One HAS TO face All THE accumlated bad karmas and will have to confront this "guardian" sooner of later. Tantrics usually do it in cremation grounds.As this forum is devoted and dedicated to Jyotish and a particular parampara, I will not dwell on this here.> I always take into account the transits (rashi) to D-30. Especially to the moon, by Saturn (of course) Rahu and Ketu.When Jupiter comes to trines (in transit), it will show the possibility of relief through saddhana. (Relief here means - integration, release.)> > With deep respect to all:> AJ> > sohamsa@ .com, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear All,> > Its seems if someone is serious about spiritual advancement they would want to understand their sins , so

with this in mind I read Sanjays article on Trimsamsa.> > I still feel confused on some issues. If someone feels they have a handle on D-30 analysis can you please post a few charts with analysis. Id like to get more of an idea , how to use it.> > Timing of the acts of sin is this only seen in Rasi, or can we see in Trimsamsa?> > ..or is this timing the results of the sins? If so , what about Mula dasa as it shows timing for curses, which also are apart of sin.> > > > Well, does d-30 show past life sins, current lifetimes sin, future sins. all sins?(6th house/8th house only?)> > How to understand kendras and trine in D-30.> > Does Jupiter show forgiveness, what shows penance ? done?> > Paryaya Dasa is only what is to be used for D-30.?> > Below is a sample chart > > THANK-YOU> > Lakshmi> >

Trimsamsa of george W bush D-30> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ Ma / \ / |> > | \ /

\ / |> > | \ / Ju \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > |Mo AL x Ra As Ke x |> > | /

\ / \ |> > | / \ Ve / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ 8 / \ |> > |

/ \ / \ |> > | x |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ /

\ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / Md \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > |Me HL x

Sa x |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | /

GL \ / Su \ |> > | / \ / Gk \ |> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/>

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