AK in MKS - Rashi chart

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Dear RamaNarayan Sir & other friends,

 

Nice to see you back to where you belong. very important Thread is

going on and felt like giving some inputs.

 

Earlier I had mentioned my understandings on AK & some imp.

Discussion with Shri Bharat. AK is a King and hence directly

represents the Ahamkara of Being in this world. Ishta is needed to

torment the AK & lead Jeevatma to it's true Nature.

 

I Feel that AK's Weak Position in MKS may prove to be an advantage

in spiritual awakening. even 8th,12th is also a better position for

AK for spiritual persuits. if AK is weakened then the role of Ishta

Becomes Easy provided other combination also participate in native's

spirituality.

 

I would like to give an example of My father & i apologize in

advance if it seemed to be unpalatable.

 

He is Going thro' Moon/Guru as per Vimshottari. Both planets are

placed in MKS position in his chart. Moon is 12th lord & Guru is AK

for him.

 

His Spiritual side has now become more & more visible. he spents lot

of time in Daily Prayers and has calmed down much.

 

more importantly, I became the medium who introduced him to the holy

life of Thakur. during the heavy rains in Mumbai, he was forced to

remain in the home and during that time He read all the books of

Shri Ramkrishna which I brought and life seems to have changed for

him. vairagya bhavana has taken the driving seat. even after coming

at 11 o clock night from the Shop, he takes bath and starts reading

the books by Saintly Makendranath Gupta till around 2am.

 

so Guru as AK in MKS has brought about some changes in his

personality . he has almost decided to stay now at our native

Village and spent his rest of the life there. Interestingly, his

coming Antara Dasha lord Shani is BK.

 

best regards,

 

Utpal Pathak

 

 

sohamsa , rama narayanan <sree88ganesha>

wrote:

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Sarbani,

>

> Pranams Mata. Nice to see your mail. i have been

> trying to contact you over phone but could not

> succeed.

>

> Coming to the subect proper - Atmakaraka is the most

> important adhikari/authority who has the power to

> arrest and to release the focus of life. This needs

> further explanation. What drives the jeeva or the

> individual? It is desire/iccha sakthi. What then is

> desire/iccha sakthi? It is the firm belief that the

> native can derive sukha/satisfaction in focussing in

> the chosen direction. What then is this sukha that the

> native is believed to reojoice/enjoy? It is the belief

> that the jeeva is important and is being recognised

> for the power it possesses. It is customary to sing

> the glories of king before addressing any issue in the

> courts/darbars. The king is a stuti/stotra priya(one

> who likes his name to be worshipped). Its all the game

> of power/sakthi. The king believes that he is in

> possession of the maximum power where as in reality he

> is in the grip of Sakthi. Ma Parasakthi enjoys this

> game of Jeeva trying to consume her(navarathri is

> round the corner).

>

> Atmakaraka assumes the role of an adhikari and

> exercises the power believed to be in possession to

> arrest the focus of life every now and then and also

> releases the focus from the then station of captivity.

> Every time it releases the focus of life the jeeva

> learns an important lesson. Jeeva understands the

> illusory nature of suka and the wrong belief

> entertained. The day when the jeeva realises that

> sukha soaked in Dharma can only be lasting on account

> of the gaze/grace of Guru, jeeva prefers simple

> clothing of silence rather than the richness of Sabda.

> The fourth house in Navamsa/dharmamsa affectionately

> called as the 64th Navamsa is then understood as the

> abode of everlasting sukha.

>

> The moment the jeeva becomes nishkamya/Siva,

> Parasakthi is automatically bestowed. In other words

> Sakthi joins Siva. For this the help of Ista is

> absolutely necessary.

>

> May Mother Bless.

>

> Astrologically & spiritually yours,

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

>

> --- Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@s...> wrote:

>

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Bharat and Hari,

> >

> > Parasara does say the AK is the ruler though:

> >

> > ätmäkhyakärakasteñu pradhänaà kathyate dvija || 6||

> >

> > sa eva jätakädhéço vijïeyo dvijasattama |

> >

> > yathä bhümau prasiddho'sti naräëäà kñitipälakaù ||

> > 7||

> >

> > sa eva jätakädhéço vijïeyo dvijasattama |

> >

> > sarvavärtädhikäré ca bandhakånmokñakrat tathä || 8||

> >

> >

> >

> > " ...the Ätmäkäraka is the chief among all karakas

> > and is the lord of the

> > native, prominent among the other grahas, just as a

> > king is famous in his

> > kingdom. More importantly, the Ätmäkäraka relieves

> > the native from the

> > bondages of material life and grants mokña. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Sarbani

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> > Bharat Hindu Astrology

> > Friday, September 30, 2005 1:34 PM

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Re: AK in MKS - navamsa chart

> >

> >

> > Namaskaar Sri Hari

> >

> > Atmakarka is " like " the king and not the King.

> > " king " is an analogy.

> > Atmakaraka is the planet that gives understanding of

> > oneself and questions

> > wrong notions and ideas. However, start of spiritual

> > and jyotisha learning

> > does not necessarily mean, that it breaks illusions.

> > Please do not get me

> > wrong. Let me explain:

> >

> > With spiritual " learning " comes a want to express it

> > quickly and urgently to

> > everyone. With it also comes a feeling of " Being

> > spiritual " . It also

> > attaches " holiness " attitude and makes you think in

> > terms of good or bad or

> > right and wrong. It also may want to you " achieve "

> > the goal of self

> > realization. However, at each stage you think again

> > and find that these are

> > beliefs and play of ego within. (I am not implying

> > that you have or have

> > not, as I do not know). Upon the actual realization

> > of the principles, the

> > illusion caused by a notion or a belief breaks. When

> > Atmakaraka is in the

> > fall, MKS or any place which weakens it (In my view

> > 4,8 and 12th strengthens

> > it), the self questioning attitude is reduced. In my

> > view, this weakens

> > one's resolve to break the illusion.

> >

> > How many people want to break an illusion? Not

> > everyone does. So if you view

> > Atmakaraka as a choice - to break the illusion or

> > not. Therefore, when we

> > pray to our Ishta, we strengthen to choose to break

> > the illusion. This is

> > true progression in terms of the Veda (which

> > considers buddhi as true

> > wealth).

> >

> > On your statement about the 8th house, the following

> > are my views:

> > As Rasi provides the environment, the 8th house may

> > cause repeated

> > disrespect or failure to understand something about

> > oneself in a environment

> > as suggested by the Rasi. Another point is, you

> > should try and see

> > Atmakaraka with the Arudhas and not in Isolation. If

> > illusion does not

> > exist, then, what is Atmakaraka?

> >

> > I try not to personalize any of the above statements

> > but your query had to

> > be answered in view of my own experiences. Please

> > pardon me for any

> > statement that may seem out of sync.

> >

> > I am also checking the posibility that Sri Sanjay

> > has suggested. He has

> > divorced the chara karaka signification from the

> > MKS, though has not done

> > the same for Nisargakaraka. In light of so little

> > material and research on

> > Atmakaraka, I will study the same.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/29/05, Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi@g...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > om gam gajavaktraaya namah

> >

> > Dear Sanjay & Bharat, namaste

> >

> > Sanjay: Basically the reason why I posted this

> > discussion thread is that I

> > was wondering if MKS applied to the Atmakaraka. If

> > MKS does not apply to

> > charakaraka, why is MKS being taken from the

> > charakaraka (as in Rath's

> > research)? I think you are talking about rasi where

> > as my question was about

> > MKS in navamsa.

> >

> > Bharat: Parasara calls the AK as the king of the

> > horoscope. I prefer to

> > liken its role to that of a movie director who

> > decides how the reel of life

> > will unfold. All my jyotisa and related spiritual

> > learning have come in a

> > flood soon after the Vimsottari Dasa of the AK

> > started. In my chart, in

> > navamsa, the AK is in MKS and debilitated. Sanjay

> > teaches that the

> > Vimsottari Dasa of the AK often brings sufferings

> > because the AK is the

> > karaka for the 8th house just as the darakaraka is

> > the karaka for the 2nd

> > and 7th house. On the other hand, the Narayana Dasa

> > of the sign containing

> > the AK is akin to a rajayoga.

> >

> > best regards

> > Hari

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/29/05, Guru Sanjay Rath <guruji@s... >

> > wrote:

> >

> > om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

> > Dear Sourav and Bharat

> >

> > The moot point I am making here is to indicate that

> > the Marana Karaka Sthana

> > (MKS) is a function related to the natural

> > signification (Naisargika Karaka)

> > of the planet and not its Cara Karaka nature. So the

> > impact is not a direct

> > one. For eample if Rahu is in MKS in 9H and is also

> > the AK then the native

> > can be very blessed in its dasa to have great

> > spiritual experiences as the

> > natural signification of Rahu is further destroyed

> > and it shall further its

> > work as Chara AK and make the natuve use his full

> > spiritual potential

> > instead of wasting time in mundane pursuits.

> >

> > Thus MKS can be a blesing in disguise for people

> > when the planet also

> > happens to be the AK. A lot depends on its natural

> > signfication and nature.

> > Generally, malefic planets give good results if they

> > are also in MKS and AK

> > whereas natural benefics losing their natural

> > signfication cannot give that

> > good spiritual directions.

> >

> > With best wishes and warm regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > * * *

> > Sri Jagannath Center®

> >

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