[Jagannath] Why are you all sleeping?

[Guest guest]

Namaste Dina-natha,

 

If you think that my conduct is anti-SJVC, you should

talk to Sanjay first.

 

The list may need to know about any final conclusions

drawn between the three of us, but the whole

discussion need not happen here.

 

You are giving only half of the context and ignoring

the crucial part. Even after I and Sanjay suggested

that Chanakya's Kutila neeti is not representative of

Vedic thought (this relates to your sweeping comment

on ladies), you kept quoting from Puranas about

Chanakya. It was exactly under that paragraph that I

mentioned the ambiguities in Puranas and different

interpretations.

 

As for Chaitanya Prabhu, I did not specifically give

my personal opinion and belief in any mail. My personal

opinion is irrelevant and I need to give it only to my

Guru Sanjay (I did - as soon as I asked YND for some

quotes about Chaitanya Prabhu).

 

Whether a saint only has Vishnu's amsa or whether he

is Vishnu's avatar is immaterial. Irrespective of all

that, we can always worship a saint as Vijay said. The

rest is a matter of personal belief.

 

The Gita quote you gave to prove that I don't even

know the basics of Gita and philosophy specifically

pertains to Karma Yoga and Krishna talks about

paramparas of rajarshis (saintly kings) rather than

paramparas of all learned men.

 

In the matters of Vedanta knowledge, blind faith was

never called for in Vedic culture. Inviolable respect

for guru and parampara and, at the same time, healthy

curiosity and the spirit of inquisitiveness CAN and

should coexist in a student of Veda, Vedanga and

Vedanta. This ambivalence may be tough to understand

for some people who don't share Indian ethos, but

this is an integral part of Indian ethos. Great

Vedantis giving different answers to the same

question are respected equally in India. Scholars

were never meant to be like parrots repeating things.

Vedic culture never promoted jingoim of any degree.

Foreigners brought the spirit of jingoism to India in

the last couple of millennia.

 

I never tried to hide any of my views from Sanjay

and even explicitly wrote them to him privately

after taking part in any controversial discussion

on the list. When he thinks that I am unworthy of

being an SJVC guru (or even student), he can tell

that to me and take necessary action.

 

> >I am disappointed and offended by this unnecessary

> >bitterness. May Jagannatha shower his blessings on

> > all of us and fill us with sattva guna.

>

> I am sorry if you feel offended and I apologize for that,

> however I don't think that it is unnecessary bitterness

> we need to get some things straight.

 

If we need to get some things straight, you can first have

a private discussion with Sanjay. If he has no answer to

your questions, he can involve me in the discussion and

ask me for my explanation. Going to the list is not the

right thing.

 

Correctly or incorrectly, Sanjay made me a Jyotish guru of

SJVC. If you have respect for Sanjay, you should respect

his decision and not claim in public that I am posing as a

guru in SJVC with a bit of Sanskrit knowledge. Of course,

you can bring my conduct to Sanjay's attention and question

him about his decision to make me a guru. That's perfectly

fine, but please do it in private mail.

 

Dina-natha, may Sri Jagannatha give you wisdom, love and

compassion and may He remove obstacles from your path.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha