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Om Krsna Guru.

 

>I further noticed that checking the transit of Jupiter during June AD 1 to

>June-July AD 2, Jupiter switches about 1 sign every month from Gemini to

>Aquarius in just one year time! Is there a bug here in the program or was

>Brhaspati the star that led the " sages from the East " to come to the place

>where Christ was born?

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Jaya Jagannatha!

 

Could you (or others) please explain this unusual transit?

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Dhira Krishna Prabhu,

Moon could also be associated with the fifth or ninth lord in Vimsamsa. Its

placement in the 12th also gives Krishna Bhakti but in a different manner

not the normal Bhakti but a deeper renunciation. Be careful in

rectification.

With Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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" Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B) " <Dhira.Krsna.BCS

" Varahamihira " <varahamihira >;

<vedic astrology >

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:37 PM

[sri Guru] [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter's unusual transit AD 1-2

 

 

> Om Krsna Guru. Jaya Jagannath!

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> As you said that JHL is not accurate for very old dates, I found it is not

> 100% accurate also for 1972. While trying to rectify my wife's chart on

> basis as Gauranga said Moon should be in trines in Vimsamsa for Krsna's

> devotees, I checked with JHL and had to rectify up to 8-10 minutes later

> than the time given by the hospital, which would be quite unlikely.

However,

> using other software I found the Moon switches to a sign earlier to fall

in

> D-20 lagna just half a minute earlier than the time given. With JHL D-20

> lagna changes earlier than the Moon, so that they never fall together.

Would

> this be due to inaccurate ephemerides of the Moon?

> Data of my wife are: 29-11-1972, 1:44:12 am, 23E18, 53N06,GMT+1, lg 15

Virgo

>

> Your sishya,

> Dhira Krsna dasa

>

> PS. To Gauranga: I found my birthtime to be quite accurate with 10:16 am.

I

> include here my D-60. Would you or somebody else please tell me how to

> interpret in regard to past lives? And are there other indications to be

> seen from D-60?

>

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | Jup | | | |

> | | HL | | Ket |

> | Glk | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Ven |

> | Mar | | |

> | | | Moo |

> | | | |

> |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Mer |

> | | | |

> | | | BL |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | Sun | |

> | Mnd | | | |

> | | | Asc | GL |

> | Rah | | | |

> | | | Sat | |

> +----------------------+

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Om Krsna Guru. Jaya Jagannath!

 

Dear Sanjay Rath,

 

Thank you for your comment.

>Moon could also be associated with the fifth or ninth lord in Vimsamsa. Its

>placement in the 12th also gives Krishna Bhakti but in a different manner

>not the normal Bhakti but a deeper renunciation. Be careful in

>rectification.

 

Do you mean with association either sambandha, rasi or graha dristi,

exchanging rasis or placement in the signs of 5th or 9th lord in Vimsamsa?

Or only conjunction?

 

BTW, I noticed in my wife's vimsamsa that with Moon and ascendant in Gemini

5th lord Venus aspects in rasi dristi, and Saturn, associated with D-20

lagna lord, aspects in graha dristi. Venus is her putrakaraka, which here

comes as 5th lord, could that mean she will make more spiritual progress

when she gets a child?

This aspect would not be the case if lagna comes in Taurus and then only the

possibility is there when lagna goes to Cancer about 8-9 minutes later. The

time she got from hospital was quite accurate though, I have seen it written

on a piece of cloth, and it says 1:45.

 

As for my own vimsamsa, with time of 10:16 am, I have Moon in 9th aspected

in rasi dristi by Mercury, 5th lord. Remarkable is also that Ketu-Mars as

7th lords with Rahu, co-lord of 10th, aspect on Moon, and I started to

really get into studying jyotish around the time of my marriage. If time

were to be later, then Moon comes in 8th, with only the aspect of Rahu, 9th

co-lord, but then dwadasamsa wouldn't be correct in regard to the demise of

my grandmother. Only a little earlier is possible as Sun becomes 5th lord

and also aspects on the Moon?

I think it cannot be too much earlier, otherwise it doesn't fit with the

declaration of my parents. Unfortunately I can't have paper from hospital,

as the files aren't existing anymore.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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Dear Dhira Krishna prabhu,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

>

> PS. To Gauranga: I found my birthtime to be quite accurate with 10:16 am. I

> include here my D-60. Would you or somebody else please tell me how to

> interpret in regard to past lives? And are there other indications to be

> seen from D-60?

>

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | Jup | | | |

> | | HL | | Ket |

> | Glk | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Ven |

> | Mar | | |

> | | | Moo |

> | | | |

> |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Mer |

> | | | |

> | | | BL |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | Sun | |

> | Mnd | | | |

> | | | Asc | GL |

> | Rah | | | |

> | | | Sat | |

> +----------------------+

>

 

Of course I cannot verify that this is actually the correct Sasthyamsa for you,

but let's

see what are its indications. Lagna is in the philosophical sign Libra, while

its lord

conjoins Moon in Cancer. This indicates brahminical duties performed in your

previous

life, and as the result of this you got Cancer Lagna in this lifetime. The Lagna

has

exalted Saturn (which is Atmakaraka in this life), and thus shows strong

spirituality and

a simple lifestyle or tendency to renunciation in previous life. Dharma Pada is

also

there. Sun is lord of 11th and is debilitated in Lagna. You may have been a prro

but

devoted brahmin in your previous life. The 9th house has Mokshakarak Ketu, but

he is

debilitated. Also Mercury is in the 11th house. So the cause of your rebirth may

have been

that you were not completely satisfied by the material circumtances achieved in

your

previous life and thus desired more prosperity. This is also indicated by Rahu

being in

Arudha of 11th house. So the attitude towards renunciation was there in your

previous

life, but it was not completely mature. Please see Jupiter in 3rd and Ketu in

6th from

Arudha Lagna. I could decipher this much. Your death may have been peaceful and

remembrance of Krishna brought you to devotional service in this life. Jupiter

is in own

house in 3rd from Arudha Lagna. Narasimha is also very expert in D-60. Maybe he

will add

something.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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Dear Dhira Krishna Prabhu,

Should the D-60 Lagna not be Vrishchika? Gauranga, your interpretation and subsequent justification is not accurate. I am commenting on this so that others do not follow this by mistake: -

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"Gauranga Das" <gauranga

<varahamihira >

Monday, February 19, 2001 8:56 PM

Re: [sri Guru] [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter's unusual transit AD 1-2

 

> Dear Dhira Krishna prabhu,> > Hare Krishna.> > >> > PS. To Gauranga: I found my birthtime to be quite accurate with 10:16 am. I> > include here my D-60. Would you or somebody else please tell me how to> > interpret in regard to past lives? And are there other indications to be> > seen from D-60?> >> >> > +----------------------+> > | | | | |> > | Jup | | | |> > | | HL | | Ket |> > | Glk | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> > | | | |> > | | | Ven |> > | Mar | | |> > | | | Moo |> > | | | |> > |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|> > | | | |> > | | | Mer |> > | | | |> > | | | BL |> > | | | |> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> > | | | Sun | |> > | Mnd | | | |> > | | | Asc | GL |> > | Rah | | | |> > | | | Sat | |> > +----------------------+> >> > Of course I cannot verify that this is actually the correct Sasthyamsa for you, but let's> see what are its indications. Lagna is in the philosophical sign Libra, while its lord> conjoins Moon in Cancer. This indicates brahminical duties performed in your previous> life, and as the result of this you got Cancer Lagna in this lifetime.

Rath: I have Cancer rising in the D-60 Chart. This should have shown Kshtriya duties performed as Aries is the tenth house.. this Logic does not really work. I do not consider Libra a philosophical sign. Aquarius is the philosopher of the horoscope. Take Scorpio as the Lagna. With Guru in the fifth in its own sign, Dhira Krishna must have a great desire to learn this subject of Jyotish.. this is the indication in this life.

 

The Lagna has> exalted Saturn (which is Atmakaraka in this life), and thus shows strong spirituality and> a simple lifestyle or tendency to renunciation in previous life.

Rath: Atmakaraka placed in the Lagna should have indicated birth in a royal family or one associated with Royalty. This reading about Saturn needs rethinking.

 

Dharma Pada is also> there. Sun is lord of 11th and is debilitated in Lagna. You may have been a prro but> devoted brahmin in your previous life.

Rath: That reading for the Sun should be as follows: The Sun in the 1st or 7th in Libra/Aries may indicate that you were discarded by your parents as a baby and were brought up by another.

 

The 9th house has Mokshakarak Ketu, but he is> debilitated. Also Mercury is in the 11th house. So the cause of your rebirth may have been> that you were not completely satisfied by the material circumtances achieved in your> previous life and thus desired more prosperity.

Rath: What do the ninth and eleventh houses have to do with rebirth? Kindly clarify. Mercury in the 11th does aspect the 7th house and can cause rebirth due to a desire related to mercury.

 

This is also indicated by Rahu being in> Arudha of 11th house.

Rath: Rahu in the 11th from AL gives gains from imports and other foreign trade.

 

So the attitude towards renunciation was there in your previous> life, but it was not completely mature. Please see Jupiter in 3rd and Ketu in 6th from> Arudha Lagna. I could decipher this much. Your death may have been peaceful and> remembrance of Krishna brought you to devotional service in this life. Jupiter is in own> house in 3rd from Arudha Lagna. Narasimha is also very expert in D-60. Maybe he will add> something.>

With Best WishesSanjay Rath

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Dear Gurudeva,

 

Pranaams.

 

Thank you for the lesson.

 

I'm beginning to understand that the D-60 chart is really deep. Will you give more hints on this and other divisional charts in one of your future books?

 

I will try to give some comments for D-60 with Scorpio Lagna.

 

Lagna lord Ketu is in the 8th house stressiong your indication about interest in astrology/occult sciences. The other lord of Lagna Mars is in the philosophical sign Aquarius in Arudha Lagna. Seeing the position of AL and 10th house I would thin that he was some kind of administrator/kshatriya worker. Rahu deb. in 2nd house may show some illegal financial transactions. Lagna is under a Paapakartari yoga by Sat/Sun/Rahu. The person may have already suffered a lot in his previous life for that life's sins. But trikonas indicate strong religiosity. Jupiter in 5th may indicate a worshipper of Vishnu. I would still say that exalted Saturn in 12th indicates some tendency towards renunciation.

Saturn and Sun also aspect the 7th, thus indicating the causes for rebirth: not meeting enough professional success according to one's expectations, and also spiritual developnment needed more maturity.

 

Please verify whther the above are correct.

 

I would also enjoy a lesson on Sasthyamsa lords and the indications if certain planets fall into them. Is this possible by Uou or Narasimha? I believe that if we had completely accurate birth time records, then the correct way to analyse a chart would be downwards from D-60 and not the poopsite. We should first understand the causes for one's rebirth, and then try to see the effects reaped in this life.

 

May I have a question on my D-60?

 

(My chart is reproduced at the end of the letter)

 

I believe that My D-60 Lagna in Gemini is ocrrect, but I may err as I did with Dhira Krishna's chart. Please comment. Atmakarak Mars with Rahu/Ketu exalted in 1st/7th indicates a strong drive for spirituality and a very hasty nature as Lagna is in Gemini. I may have been very forceful and agressive at times. Ketu and Saturn in 7th indicates renunciation of mmarriage. My idea is that I was a sannyasi in my previous life and may have disregarded my Guru's instructions to get married (Sun Bratrikarak in 9th in Upapada) and then fell down (Venus in 12th) and thus he cursed me (or at leas became angry with me). This is indicated by deb. retro Saturn in 9th in Rasi aspected by Jupiter nad Venus from the 4th. I think this because in this life I also had a tendency for renunciation and lived in the temple as a brahmacari for 7 years. Then my Guru convinced me to get married and I hope that in this way this debt will be liquidated and the curse alleviated. Rahu in 7th in Rahu may indicate some negative karma associated with marriage. Is it possible to say that I had a relationship with the same Guru in my previous life than in this life? My Guru Maharaja's AK is Rahu in Aries. I don't know His Lagna, but He has 5 planets in Pisces.

 

Now back to my D-60. Can we say that Jupiter in 5th also indicates interest in Jyotish in previous life? 12th from Atmakaraka has Venus in own house aspected by Jupiter. May this indicate that I was the devotee of Lord Caitanya and Srimati Radhika? I take Jupiter to be Lord Vishnu (Lord Caitanya is the source of al Vishnu-tattvas) and Venus meaning that He had appeared with the complexion and feelings of Radha. This same sign (Taurus) is the 12th from Atmakaraka in my Navamsha, although I have Mrcury there, but I see some contoniuty in my Ishta Devata in previous life and this life. I worship Lord Caitanya. Atmakaraka in lagna conjoined by 9th lord is a good indication for strong spirituality, however I would think that this is the Lagna of an offender. I may have been very critical in my prevoius life offending Vaishnavas. I still have this tendency but by the mercy of Guru it's decreasing. Moon in 10th im Pisces may indicate brahminical ditues performed. I may have been a preacher or a pujari or an astrologer? Arudha Lagna with exalted Mrcury may give very good speech and make me known for my oratory abilities.

 

Gurudeva, please also comment on the Sasthyamsas ocuppied by the planets. Sun being in Kaala Paavaka may indicate the wrath of my Guru. Venus in Vamsha Kshaya may indicate that although I had sexual contacts with women I did not have children and did not continue my lineage. Mars in Amrita may show mercy of Krishna. Mercury in Vahni may show sharp speech from my side. Jupiter in Candramukhi may also show mercy by Guru and Lord Caitanya.

 

Your shishya,

 

Gauranga das

 

Date of Birth: January 9, 1971Time of Birth: 7:40:00 pmTime Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMTLongitude of Birth: 19 E 04Latitude of Birth: 47 N 30

Planet Position Pada CharaK

 

Ascdt 5 Le 23 Makha 2 - Sun 25 Sg 23 Poo.Shaa. 4 BKMoon 4 Ge 39 Mrigasira 4 GKMars 28 Li 09 Visakha 3 AKMercury 4 Sg 31 Moola 2 DKJupiter 5 Sc 44 Anuradha 1 PKVenus 9 Sc 02 Anuradha 2 PiKSaturn ® 22 Ar 18 Bharani 3 MKRahu 2 Aq 02 Dhanishtha 3 AmKKetu 2 Le 02 Makha 1 -

 

+----------------------+| | | | || | | | Moo || | SatR | | || | | | BL || | | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | || | | || Rah | | GL || | | || | | ||-------------| R A S I |-------------|| | | || | | Ket || | | || | | Asc || | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| Mer | | | || | Glk Jup | | || Sun | | Mar | || | Ven Mnd | | || HL | | | |+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+| | | BL | || | | | || | Ket | Asc | Mar || | | | || | | Mer | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | || | | || | | GL || | | || | | ||-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|| | | || | | Glk || | | || | | Jup || | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | Moo | | || | | SatR | || HL | Mnd | | Ven || | | Rah | || | Sun | | |+----------------------+

 

 

 

+----------------------+| | | | Asc || | | Ven | || Moo | | | Mar || | | Mnd | || | | | Rah ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | || | | || Sun | | Glk || | | || | | ||-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|| | | || | | || GL | | HL || | | || | | ||-------------|---------------------------|-------------|| | | | || SatR | | | || | BL | Jup | Mer || Ket | | | || | | | |+----------------------+

 

 

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Feladó: Sanjay Rath

Címzett: varahamihira

Elküldve: 2001. február 20. 3:22

Tárgy: Re: [sri Guru] [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter's unusual transit AD 1-2

 

Dear Dhira Krishna Prabhu,

Should the D-60 Lagna not be Vrishchika? Gauranga, your interpretation and subsequent justification is not accurate. I am commenting on this so that others do not follow this by mistake: -

-

"Gauranga Das" <gauranga

<varahamihira >

Monday, February 19, 2001 8:56 PM

Re: [sri Guru] [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter's unusual transit AD 1-2

 

> Dear Dhira Krishna prabhu,> > Hare Krishna.> > >> > PS. To Gauranga: I found my birthtime to be quite accurate with 10:16 am. I> > include here my D-60. Would you or somebody else please tell me how to> > interpret in regard to past lives? And are there other indications to be> > seen from D-60?> >> >> > +----------------------+> > | | | | |> > | Jup | | | |> > | | HL | | Ket |> > | Glk | | | |> > | | | | |> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> > | | | |> > | | | Ven |> > | Mar | | |> > | | | Moo |> > | | | |> > |-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|> > | | | |> > | | | Mer |> > | | | |> > | | | BL |> > | | | |> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> > | | | Sun | |> > | Mnd | | | |> > | | | Asc | GL |> > | Rah | | | |> > | | | Sat | |> > +----------------------+> >> > Of course I cannot verify that this is actually the correct Sasthyamsa for you, but let's> see what are its indications. Lagna is in the philosophical sign Libra, while its lord> conjoins Moon in Cancer. This indicates brahminical duties performed in your previous> life, and as the result of this you got Cancer Lagna in this lifetime.

Rath: I have Cancer rising in the D-60 Chart. This should have shown Kshtriya duties performed as Aries is the tenth house.. this Logic does not really work. I do not consider Libra a philosophical sign. Aquarius is the philosopher of the horoscope. Take Scorpio as the Lagna. With Guru in the fifth in its own sign, Dhira Krishna must have a great desire to learn this subject of Jyotish.. this is the indication in this life.

 

The Lagna has> exalted Saturn (which is Atmakaraka in this life), and thus shows strong spirituality and> a simple lifestyle or tendency to renunciation in previous life.

Rath: Atmakaraka placed in the Lagna should have indicated birth in a royal family or one associated with Royalty. This reading about Saturn needs rethinking.

 

Dharma Pada is also> there. Sun is lord of 11th and is debilitated in Lagna. You may have been a prro but> devoted brahmin in your previous life.

Rath: That reading for the Sun should be as follows: The Sun in the 1st or 7th in Libra/Aries may indicate that you were discarded by your parents as a baby and were brought up by another.

 

The 9th house has Mokshakarak Ketu, but he is> debilitated. Also Mercury is in the 11th house. So the cause of your rebirth may have been> that you were not completely satisfied by the material circumtances achieved in your> previous life and thus desired more prosperity.

Rath: What do the ninth and eleventh houses have to do with rebirth? Kindly clarify. Mercury in the 11th does aspect the 7th house and can cause rebirth due to a desire related to mercury.

 

This is also indicated by Rahu being in> Arudha of 11th house.

Rath: Rahu in the 11th from AL gives gains from imports and other foreign trade.

 

So the attitude towards renunciation was there in your previous> life, but it was not completely mature. Please see Jupiter in 3rd and Ketu in 6th from> Arudha Lagna. I could decipher this much. Your death may have been peaceful and> remembrance of Krishna brought you to devotional service in this life. Jupiter is in own> house in 3rd from Arudha Lagna. Narasimha is also very expert in D-60. Maybe he will add> something.>

With Best WishesSanjay RathOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html

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