Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Om Gurubhyo Namah Pranaam Sanjay and other Jyotishis, For the last one year, I've been going back to BPHS, reading Parasara's words carefully, pondering over them, interpreting them without any biases coming from the previous notions and then trying them out. I will slowly share my findings with others as time permits. A couple of weeks back, I talked about Parasara's available teachings on Drigdasa. I pointed out the glaring differences between our previous understanding and Parasara's available teachings. I want to do the same thing with AK Kendradi Graha dasa today. Please note that this is not out of disrespect for your teachings. I merely want to understand Parasara correctly and making a sincere attempt. * * * My previous understanding (which is programmed in JHora) seems to be different from what Parasara Maharshi taught. Parasara's verses on Kendradi dasa from the chapter on dasas in BPHS are: lagnasaptamayormadhye yo rAshirbalavAn.h bhavet.h | tataH kendrAdisaMsthAnAM rAshInAJNcha balakramAt.h || 175|| kArakAdapi rAshInAM kheTAnAM chaivameva hi | dashAbdAshcharavajGYeyAH kheTAnAM cha svabhAvadhi || 176|| dvirAshyadhipakheTasya gaNyedubhayAvadhi | ubhayoradhikA saMkhyA kArakasya dashA samAH || 177|| The literal translation would be: "Whichever rasi is stronger between the lagna and the seventh, [dasas are] of the rasis that are in quadrants etc from it, in the order of strength. From [atma] karaka also, [dasas] of rasis and [dasas] of planets are [found] just like this. The dasa years should be known like [in] Chara [dasa]. For planets, [count] till own house. For a planet owning two rasis, [one] may count till both. The higher number of the two equals the dasa [years] of the Karaka." * * * There seem to be some differences between what we have been doing and what Parasara taught. I will outline the major differences: (1) We have been taking dasa years like in Moola dasa, i.e. we've been taking Vimsottari dasa years with moolatrikona correction. Parasara definitely did not talk about that. Parasara talked about chara dasa years. In lagna/AK Kendradi RASI dasa, he taught using Chara dasa years. In AK kendradi GRAHA dasa, he taught using years similar to Chara dasa years, but by counting from the planet to the rasi (instead of counting from the rasi to the planet). If a planet owns two signs, he suggested counting to both and taking the higher count. (2) Parasara did not talk about reckoning kendras etc in forward/reverse order based on lagna or 7th being in odd/even/odd-footed/even-footed signs. He simply skipped the issue. He talked about the forward/backward counting in some dasas and he skipped the issue in some dasas (e.g. sthira, yogardha, kendradi). I am of the view that this means that we count in the normal order. We take "kendras etc" to mean kendras (1, 4, 7, 10), panapharas (2, 5, 8, 11) and apoklimas (3, 6, 9, 12), reckoned zodiacally, in the absence of any special guideline. The absence of a special guideline is a guideline in itself! (3) Parasara used the expression "kendrAdisaMsthAnAM rAshInAJNcha balakramAt.h". The word "balakramAt.h" clearly means "in the order of strength". Thus, we take the quadrants in the order of strength, panapharas in the order of strength and apoklimas in the order of strength. Until now, we haven't used strength and merely went zodically or anti-zodiacally from the stronger of 1st and 7th. One may wonder why Parasara talked about taking the stronger of lagna and 7th and then finding quadrants etc in the order of strength. Qudrants from the 1st/7th are, after all, the same signs. My view on this is that the natural order is decided by the starting sign. When you cannot decide the stronger of two signs based on the rules given by Parasara prior to this verse, this natural order matters. Thus, which sign starts dasas is important. (4) The fact that Parasara used the word "kAraka" to refer to the dasa lord in the case of planetary Kendradi dasa makes me think that he wants only 8 planets to be considered and not Ketu. If not, he would have used the words "kheTa" or "graha" instead of the word "kAraka". The dasa starts from AK and only the eight chara karakas get dasas. So far, at SJC, we've been taking Ketu too. Parasara seems to suggest otherwise. * * * I am sure there will be opposition to my views and people will continue to follow what they are used to. So, I will not try to convince people, but I will give one example to clarify the calculation. Let us take your (Sanjay's) chart. August 7, 1963Time: 21:15:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 83 E 58' 00", 21 N 27' 00" Sambalpur, India Let us find Atma Karaka Kendradi Graha (AKKG) dasa. AK is in Cp. The stronger of 1st and 7th from AK is Cn. When planets in quadrants are arranged in the order of strength, we get Sun, Venus and Saturn. BTW, for the comparison of strengths of rasis and planets, I am strictly using the guidelines given by Parasara prior to the verse in question. I am 100% adhering to the available text of Parasara. The order of planets in panapharas is: Mercury, Moon. The order of planets in apoklimas is: Ketu, Rahu, Jupiter and Mars. Sun is in Cn, an even-footed sign. We count from him to his sign Le in reverse order (like in Chara dasa, but from planet to sign). We get a count of 12 and subtracting 1, we get 11. So Sun dasa is for 11 years. Venus is in Cn, an even-footed sign. He owns two signs Ta and Li. Counting from Cn to Ta and Li in reverse order and subtracting 1, we get counts of 2 and 9. Taking the larger number, we get 9 years for Venus dasa. The complete AKKG dasa calculations are shown below: AK Kendradi Graha Dasa of D-1 (work of the soul): Sun: 1963-08-07 (21:15:00) - 1974-08-07 (16:51:32) Ven: 1974-08-07 (16:51:32) - 1983-08-08 (0:19:02) Sat: 1983-08-08 (0:19:02) - 1995-08-08 (2:03:26) Merc: 1995-08-08 (2:03:26) - 2006-08-07 (21:40:05) Moon: 2006-08-07 (21:40:05) - 2013-08-07 (16:50:56) Rah: 2013-08-07 (16:50:56) - 2022-08-07 (23:58:28) Jup: 2022-08-07 (23:58:28) - 2034-08-08 (1:54:47) Mars: 2034-08-08 (1:54:47) - 2044-08-07 (15:27:04) Sun is the BK. He is in mantra sthana. So his dasa gave spiritual initiation with savitR^i gAyatrI mantra. Venus is PiK. He is the 8th lord in the 5th house. He is in the 7th house from AK, showing the desires of the soul. So paternal elders played a role in your life and you learnt occult subjects needed for fulfilling the desire of the soul. Saturn is the AK. He is the 12th lord in 11th. This dasa brought a lot of changes in your life. AK Kendradi Graha Dasa of D-1 (experiences of the soul): Sat MD: 1983-08-08 (0:19:02) - 1995-08-08 (2:03:26) Antardasas in this MD: Sun: 1983-08-08 (0:19:02) - 1985-03-22 (7:09:45) Ven: 1985-03-22 (7:09:45) - 1986-07-24 (20:12:25) Sat: 1986-07-24 (20:12:25) - 1988-05-01 (20:09:32) Merc: 1988-05-01 (20:09:32) - 1989-12-20 (6:38:23) Moon: 1989-12-20 (6:38:23) - 1991-01-02 (14:52:36) Rah: 1991-01-02 (14:52:36) - 1992-05-01 (20:48:55) Jup: 1992-05-01 (20:48:55) - 1994-02-10 (17:20:19) Mars: 1994-02-10 (17:20:19) - 1995-08-08 (2:03:26) While Saturn is the 12th lord, Rahu is the DK and aspects UL. Rahu antardasa brought the marriage. Mars is the PK. His antardasa may have given a child. Jupiter is AmK. Though your career started in Rahu antardasa, Jupiter antardasa must have given the actual posting and early growth in career. Mercury dasa started in 1995. I wonder when you started your Jaimini Sutras book. Was it around that time? Since 1995, you've been writing books, articles and teaching astrology. Mercury signifies those activities. * * * Perhaps I can give more examples later. I hope this gives some food for thought to those who care about what the available teachings of Parasara say on AKKG dasa. Those who don't care or believe that available verses from BPHS are so corrupted that there is not any truth in them may kindly ignore this mail. 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