Curses

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Hi Rafael,

 

You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet should be

worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give some

example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not Lakshmi for

Venus and Durga for Saturn.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

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Dear Rajarshi,

Namskar. Thanks a lot as you gave answer when I was in need indeed. Thanks again. Sorry. I couldn't answer you, because I was busy in exam. Now exam is over. Your answer was very useful for me.

Dear Rajarshi, One thing to ask. You have written : "Now planets and sepcially malefics in 12th from AK in rasi are the cause of bondage in life. Just like 12th from ak in navamsa is liberation". But if there is not planet in 12th from AK in Rasi, then what to do? How we can decide? Should we apply all the rules which are for Ista devata determination?

"If no planet in 12 th from AK in Navmsa, then Rasi dristi on that Sthana?

Please explain in detail. I will be obl.iged.

Thanking you with best regards,

Yours sincerely,

Mrs. Sunita.

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:32:37 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses

 

 

Dear Sunita,

 

As far as my little knowledge goes, a saap is a curse or rather a reaction that you have to face because of some negative action that you may have commited knowlingly or unknowling. For example, you cheat someone now, that creates a feeling of shock or sorrow or anger or maybe all 3 combined together, and the basic law of the universe demands that the same be given back to you in a different life or maybe in the same. That is a shaapa. It does not necessarily have to be someone actually saying out.."therefore I curse you..." like in the average bollywood serials we see on tv.

 

Bondhage is well, bondage. Being tied down. Generally equal number of planets in 2,12 or 5,9 etc houses can result in bandhana for the person. See the chart of nelson mandela to get a better understanding. This can lead to physical bondage as well. The place of bondage can be seen from the rasis involved, and the planets can indicate the nature of bondage. Like scorpio can indicate being held in an underground area.

 

Now planets and sepcially malefics in 12th from AK in rasi are the cause of bondage in life. Just like 12th from ak in navamsa is liberation. A malefic here can lead a person to jail. Generally I believe bondage should be treated as keeping someone confined in a place against their will, by force or by circumstance.

In this regarding, Visti mentions in his book and i have seen it working is lots of charts, AK combined by shani or nodes or a malefic mars creates "feeling" of being held down, like bondage. This is w.r.t to the area where the combinatin manifests. Like I have rahu (ak) with mars and shani in my tenth, and there is nothing I hate more than going to office daily.

 

To escape frmo bondage, Shiva needs to be propitiated along with chanting of the specific beejas for the atmalinga that suits the chart. And pray to him with the five types of items namely, flower, sweets, dhoop, water, and diya.

 

Thats pretty much what I understand from the two terms.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

Sunita Joshi <sunita_joshi07@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajarshi,

Namskar. Please clarify the difference between Curses and Bondage (Shaapa & Bandh). It's urgent. Please.

What is theory behind it?

Thanks with best regards,

Mrs. Sunita.

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:03:12 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

Thanks a lot.. Understood.

 

-Regards

RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarFor neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk....Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a):

 

Dear Rafal,

 

One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika?

 

-Regards

Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote:

 

 

Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008... So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed

planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a

yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you

give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > >

> pdf FILE on my site (compilations) .> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for

Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

 

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Dear Sunita As far as I have seen till now, if there are no planets from 12th to AK in rasi, then that may not indicate no bondages for the person (no form of bondage at all at the level of the soul is too huge a thing, only great spiritual giants attain that state after extreme sadhana).then check the lord of the sign and see how well it is placed or badly placed etc.... but generally it may indicate no major percieveable bondages at the level of the physical body.. But however, do cgheck frmio lagna and AL to see equal number of planets in 2,12.. 3,11 etc.. that can creat physical bondage as well.. -Regards Rajarshi Sunita Joshi <sunita_joshi07 wrote: Dear Rajarshi, Namskar. Thanks a lot as you gave answer when I was in need indeed. Thanks again. Sorry. I couldn't answer you, because I was busy in exam. Now exam is over. Your answer was very useful for me. Dear Rajarshi, One thing to ask. You have written : "Now planets and sepcially malefics in 12th from AK in rasi are the cause of bondage in life.

Just like 12th from ak in navamsa is liberation". But if there is not planet in 12th from AK in Rasi, then what to do? How we can decide? Should we apply all the rules which are for Ista devata determination? "If no planet in 12 th from AK in Navmsa, then Rasi dristi on that Sthana? Please explain in detail. I will be obl.iged. Thanking you with best regards, Yours sincerely, Mrs. Sunita. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:32:37 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses Dear Sunita, As far as my little knowledge goes, a saap is a curse or rather a reaction that you have to face because of some negative action that you may have commited knowlingly or unknowling. For example, you cheat someone now, that creates a feeling of shock or sorrow or anger or maybe all 3 combined together, and the basic law of the universe demands that the same be given back to you in a different life or maybe in the same. That is a shaapa. It does not necessarily have to be someone actually saying out.."therefore I curse you..." like in the average bollywood serials we see on tv. Bondhage is well, bondage.

Being tied down. Generally equal number of planets in 2,12 or 5,9 etc houses can result in bandhana for the person. See the chart of nelson mandela to get a better understanding. This can lead to physical bondage as well. The place of bondage can be seen from the rasis involved, and the planets can indicate the nature of bondage. Like scorpio can indicate being held in an underground area. Now planets and sepcially malefics in 12th from AK in rasi are the cause of bondage in life. Just like 12th from ak in navamsa is liberation. A malefic here can lead a person to jail. Generally I believe bondage should be treated as keeping someone confined in a place against their will, by force or by circumstance. In this regarding, Visti mentions in his book and i have seen it working is lots of charts, AK combined by shani or nodes or a malefic mars creates "feeling" of being held down, like bondage. This is w.r.t to the area where the

combinatin manifests. Like I have rahu (ak) with mars and shani in my tenth, and there is nothing I hate more than going to office daily. To escape frmo bondage, Shiva needs to be propitiated along with chanting of the specific beejas for the atmalinga that suits the chart. And pray to him with the five types of items namely, flower, sweets, dhoop, water, and diya. Thats pretty much what I understand from the two terms. -Regards Rajarshi Sunita Joshi <sunita_joshi07@ > wrote: Dear Rajarshi, Namskar. Please clarify the difference between Curses and Bondage (Shaapa & Bandh). It's urgent. Please. What is theory behind it? Thanks with best regards, Mrs. Sunita. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:03:12 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses Dear Rafal, Thanks a lot.. Understood. -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarFor neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk....Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008... So for example if the curse is in the 4th

bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> >

Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How

long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be

appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations) .> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>

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