Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Dear Freedom-Ji Thank you for clarifying this issue in further detail. On a fundamental level I guess these things dont matter. I am enjoying your mp3 classes and look forward to hearing more. One further thing I wanted to ask based on your following response is that if some native requests for deities that he should worship (without a specific purpose), how does one go about recommending a form which will be helpful ? Thanks and Pranaams. Adhyaayin Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > When I personally chose a devatta for my own or someone else's worship, the > first thing I take into account is [1] the relation of the gunas of the > purpose of the worship relative to [2] the gunas of the devatta. One must > also take into account the person's spiritual background, we would not ask a > devout Christian or Muslim to worship Kurma Avatar if their Palana devatta > (Saturn) was afflicted. We would have to understand the fundamental > principles, and find a solution according to the individual's background, > yet based about gunas and grahas. In this way Vedic science is universal. > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > adhyaayin [adhyaayin] > Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:47 PM > sohamsa > Re: #2 Palana Devata: Form of Sri Shakti or Sri Vishnu ? > FOR PVR-ji > > > Dear PVR-ji > > Thank you for clarifying my doubts and elavating me from the level > of " adhyaayin " to " Sri Dakshinamurthy " :-) > > Annway, I am just a student. > > I totally agree with you and Nitin-ji on the sensibilities of > choosing the palana deity. > > I just wanted to find out if there is an official parampara line on > this matter. This is the link to Freedom-ji specific mp3 file > (http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/lecture/01/2005-9-25%2006% > 20Ishta.mp3). The last 30 seconds of the file have the statements. > > Sincere thanks to all SJC gurus for providing the mp3 lessons and > other resources. > > Kind regards. > > Adhyaayin > > > > > > sohamsa , " pvr108 " <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Dakshinamoorthi, > > > > One should realize that there are no perfect objective answers to > > questions in astrology that relate to religion, spirituality and > > philosophy. > > > > What I said in my class was based on the same thinking that was > > outlined by Nitin below. Sanjay ji once taught me that it is > > advisable to take a form of Vishnu as ishta devata and a form of > > Devi as palana devata. > > > > The above is, however, not strictly following Pararsara. Parasara > > outlines all gods when describing ishta and palana devatas. Thus, > it > > makes sense to accept any devata. At the same time, Sanjay ji's > > specific guidance on using the forms of Vishnu and Devi is logical > > too. > > > > Are you sure you are not mistaking what Freedom said regarding > ishta > > devata for palana devata? That is possible. > > > > In any case, in my humble view, you can worship any form of god as > > ishta devata or palana devata. If Mars is in the 12th from AK in > > navamsa and one worships Kartikeya or Bagalamukhi for moksha > > (instead of Narasimha), I don't believe that that worship goes > > wasted. Those gods may still take one closer to moksha. Similarly, > > if Saturn is in 6th from AmK in navamsa and one worships Koorma > Deva > > or Vishnu Himself instead of Mother Kaali and asks for livelihood, > > one's livelihood may still be taken care of. > > > > It is good to follow the advice of maharshis, tradition and gurus > > whenever possible, but one should be flexible and focus on the > > essence and spirit of the teachings. Sometimes, we can get stuck in > > some details and miss the essence. Thumbrules are just that - > > thumbrules. > > > > Understanding the TRUE nature of either Vishnu or Shiva or Shakti - > > even one of them - is not easy. If someone feels close to one of > the > > three, I wouldn't mind recommending the forms of the same for all > > purposes. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------------- > > > > > Dear Nitin-ji > > > > > > I had sent a reply to your response but for some reason it > > > never got posted on the vedic astrology group. > > > > > > Thanks for the reference to the article. I have a copy. > > > > > > However even in that article under the " Palana devata " section > > there > > > is no reference to palana devata as a form of the mother. Many > > > deities are listed. > > > > > > Personally i rightly agree with you and also belive in the > > mother's > > > form for palana devata. > > > > > > But in Sri Freedom-ji's mp3 (sjc vyasa) class > > > http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/lecture/01/2005-9-25%2006% > > 20Ishta.mp3 > > > he mentions palana devata as a sri vishnu swarupa. > > > > > > In PVR-ji's mp3 classes (lesson no 20) he mentions palana devata > > as a > > > form of the mother. > > > > > > > > > Please clarify this. > > > > > > Adhyaayin > > > > > > Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Nitin K " <sjc@j...> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||| Aum Krishna Guru ||| > > > > > > > > vedic astrology/message/68220 > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > " adhyaayin " <adhyaayin> > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:05:40 -0000 > > > > > > > > >Dear Gurus > > > > > > > > > >Pranaams > > > > > > > > > >Please clear my confusion about the Palana Devata (6th from > > AmK). > > > > > > > > > >On hearing the audio classes of PVR-ji my understanding was > > that it > > > > >should be a form of the mother corresponding to the planet. But > > > > >recently I heard Freedom-ji's class mp3 (Vyasa SJC) that it > > should > > > be a > > > > >form of Sri Vishnu. > > > > > > > > > >So I hope somebody could clarify this. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks and kind regards. > > > > > > > > > >Adhyaayin > > > > > > > > > >Om Sri Gurubhyo namah > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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