#2 Palana Devata: Form of Sri Shakti or Sri Vishnu ? FOR NITIN_JI

[Guest guest]

Dear Nitin-ji

 

I had sent a reply to your response but for some reason it

never got posted on the vedic astrology group.

 

Thanks for the reference to the article. I have a copy.

 

However even in that article under the " Palana devata " section there

is no reference to palana devata as a form of the mother. Many

deities are listed.

 

Personally i rightly agree with you and also belive in the mother's

form for palana devata.

 

But in Sri Freedom-ji's mp3 (sjc vyasa) class

http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/lecture/01/2005-9-25%2006%20Ishta.mp3

he mentions palana devata as a sri vishnu swarupa.

 

In PVR-ji's mp3 classes (lesson no 20) he mentions palana devata as a

form of the mother.

 

 

Please clarify this.

 

Adhyaayin

 

Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah

 

 

sohamsa , " Nitin K " <sjc@j...> wrote:

>

> ||| Aum Krishna Guru |||

>

> vedic astrology/message/68220

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

>

> --

> " adhyaayin " <adhyaayin>

> sohamsa

> Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:05:40 -0000

>

> >Dear Gurus

> >

> >Pranaams

> >

> >Please clear my confusion about the Palana Devata (6th from AmK).

> >

> >On hearing the audio classes of PVR-ji my understanding was that it

> >should be a form of the mother corresponding to the planet. But

> >recently I heard Freedom-ji's class mp3 (Vyasa SJC) that it should

be a

> >form of Sri Vishnu.

> >

> >So I hope somebody could clarify this.

> >

> >Thanks and kind regards.

> >

> >Adhyaayin

> >

> >Om Sri Gurubhyo namah

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >*tat savitur varenyam*

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri Dakshinamoorthi,

 

One should realize that there are no perfect objective answers to

questions in astrology that relate to religion, spirituality and

philosophy.

 

What I said in my class was based on the same thinking that was

outlined by Nitin below. Sanjay ji once taught me that it is

advisable to take a form of Vishnu as ishta devata and a form of

Devi as palana devata.

 

The above is, however, not strictly following Pararsara. Parasara

outlines all gods when describing ishta and palana devatas. Thus, it

makes sense to accept any devata. At the same time, Sanjay ji's

specific guidance on using the forms of Vishnu and Devi is logical

too.

 

Are you sure you are not mistaking what Freedom said regarding ishta

devata for palana devata? That is possible.

 

In any case, in my humble view, you can worship any form of god as

ishta devata or palana devata. If Mars is in the 12th from AK in

navamsa and one worships Kartikeya or Bagalamukhi for moksha

(instead of Narasimha), I don't believe that that worship goes

wasted. Those gods may still take one closer to moksha. Similarly,

if Saturn is in 6th from AmK in navamsa and one worships Koorma Deva

or Vishnu Himself instead of Mother Kaali and asks for livelihood,

one's livelihood may still be taken care of.

 

It is good to follow the advice of maharshis, tradition and gurus

whenever possible, but one should be flexible and focus on the

essence and spirit of the teachings. Sometimes, we can get stuck in

some details and miss the essence. Thumbrules are just that -

thumbrules.

 

Understanding the TRUE nature of either Vishnu or Shiva or Shakti -

even one of them - is not easy. If someone feels close to one of the

three, I wouldn't mind recommending the forms of the same for all

purposes.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> Dear Nitin-ji

>

> I had sent a reply to your response but for some reason it

> never got posted on the vedic astrology group.

>

> Thanks for the reference to the article. I have a copy.

>

> However even in that article under the " Palana devata " section

there

> is no reference to palana devata as a form of the mother. Many

> deities are listed.

>

> Personally i rightly agree with you and also belive in the

mother's

> form for palana devata.

>

> But in Sri Freedom-ji's mp3 (sjc vyasa) class

> http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/lecture/01/2005-9-25%2006%

20Ishta.mp3

> he mentions palana devata as a sri vishnu swarupa.

>

> In PVR-ji's mp3 classes (lesson no 20) he mentions palana devata

as a

> form of the mother.

>

>

> Please clarify this.

>

> Adhyaayin

>

> Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah

>

>

> sohamsa , " Nitin K " <sjc@j...> wrote:

> >

> > ||| Aum Krishna Guru |||

> >

> > vedic astrology/message/68220

> >

> > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> >

> >

> > --

> > " adhyaayin " <adhyaayin>

> > sohamsa

> > Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:05:40 -0000

> >

> > >Dear Gurus

> > >

> > >Pranaams

> > >

> > >Please clear my confusion about the Palana Devata (6th from

AmK).

> > >

> > >On hearing the audio classes of PVR-ji my understanding was

that it

> > >should be a form of the mother corresponding to the planet. But

> > >recently I heard Freedom-ji's class mp3 (Vyasa SJC) that it

should

> be a

> > >form of Sri Vishnu.

> > >

> > >So I hope somebody could clarify this.

> > >

> > >Thanks and kind regards.

> > >

> > >Adhyaayin

> > >

> > >Om Sri Gurubhyo namah

[Guest guest]

Dear Adhyaayin,

 

Sorry for addressing you with a wrong name. It is a cut & paste

error. I cut & pasted your mail into a template which contained a

mail I sent yesterday to v-a list and forgot to edit the name.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-------------------------------

 

> Namaste Sri Dakshinamoorthi,

>

> One should realize that there are no perfect objective answers to

> questions in astrology that relate to religion, spirituality and

> philosophy.

>

> What I said in my class was based on the same thinking that was

> outlined by Nitin below. Sanjay ji once taught me that it is

> advisable to take a form of Vishnu as ishta devata and a form of

> Devi as palana devata.

>

> The above is, however, not strictly following Pararsara. Parasara

> outlines all gods when describing ishta and palana devatas. Thus,

it

> makes sense to accept any devata. At the same time, Sanjay ji's

> specific guidance on using the forms of Vishnu and Devi is logical

> too.

>

> Are you sure you are not mistaking what Freedom said regarding

ishta

> devata for palana devata? That is possible.

>

> In any case, in my humble view, you can worship any form of god as

> ishta devata or palana devata. If Mars is in the 12th from AK in

> navamsa and one worships Kartikeya or Bagalamukhi for moksha

> (instead of Narasimha), I don't believe that that worship goes

> wasted. Those gods may still take one closer to moksha. Similarly,

> if Saturn is in 6th from AmK in navamsa and one worships Koorma

Deva

> or Vishnu Himself instead of Mother Kaali and asks for livelihood,

> one's livelihood may still be taken care of.

>

> It is good to follow the advice of maharshis, tradition and gurus

> whenever possible, but one should be flexible and focus on the

> essence and spirit of the teachings. Sometimes, we can get stuck

in

> some details and miss the essence. Thumbrules are just that -

> thumbrules.

>

> Understanding the TRUE nature of either Vishnu or Shiva or Shakti -

 

> even one of them - is not easy. If someone feels close to one of

the

> three, I wouldn't mind recommending the forms of the same for all

> purposes.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

> > Dear Nitin-ji

> >

> > I had sent a reply to your response but for some reason it

> > never got posted on the vedic astrology group.

> >

> > Thanks for the reference to the article. I have a copy.

> >

> > However even in that article under the " Palana devata " section

> there

> > is no reference to palana devata as a form of the mother. Many

> > deities are listed.

> >

> > Personally i rightly agree with you and also belive in the

> mother's

> > form for palana devata.

> >

> > But in Sri Freedom-ji's mp3 (sjc vyasa) class

> > http://shrifreedom.com/VyasaSJC/lecture/01/2005-9-25%2006%

> 20Ishta.mp3

> > he mentions palana devata as a sri vishnu swarupa.

> >

> > In PVR-ji's mp3 classes (lesson no 20) he mentions palana devata

> as a

> > form of the mother.

> >

> >

> > Please clarify this.

> >

> > Adhyaayin

> >

> > Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " Nitin K " <sjc@j...> wrote:

> > >

> > > ||| Aum Krishna Guru |||

> > >

> > > vedic astrology/message/68220

> > >

> > > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > " adhyaayin " <adhyaayin>

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:05:40 -0000

> > >

> > > >Dear Gurus

> > > >

> > > >Pranaams

> > > >

> > > >Please clear my confusion about the Palana Devata (6th from

> AmK).

> > > >

> > > >On hearing the audio classes of PVR-ji my understanding was

> that it

> > > >should be a form of the mother corresponding to the planet.

But

> > > >recently I heard Freedom-ji's class mp3 (Vyasa SJC) that it

> should

> > be a

> > > >form of Sri Vishnu.

> > > >

> > > >So I hope somebody could clarify this.

> > > >

> > > >Thanks and kind regards.

> > > >

> > > >Adhyaayin

> > > >

> > > >Om Sri Gurubhyo namah

>