Calculating Upa-pada or Arudha of the 12th -the string of events

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Dear Frank,

 

Namaste.

>

> My inquiry was in correctly calculating the Upa-Pada for this vighati (

> birth time):

> 17 July 1952; Time 15:22:50 ( no day light savings time applied) for

> Chicago, Illinois 41N54min 10 sec; 87W40min 25sec

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> Situation calculating the correct Arudha of the 12 house or Upa-pada.

> My Approach

>

> When I calc. this I get Aries by using the following approach:

> 1. Libra ( Kanya) = 12 house

> 2. Ruler = Sukra which is positioned in the 9th ( Cancer)in the birth chart

> 3. Count from Virgo to Cancer = 10 rasi's away.

> 4. Count 10 rsigns from Cancer and arive at Aries, yet;

> 5. With Jagannath Hora Lite the Upa-pada ( UL) is shown in the 3rd house,

> equaling the 4th from the 12th,

 

You see Aries is in the 7th from Libra, and as I have said above, no Arudha may

fall into

the 7th from a sign. If it would fall there, then it is in the 4th from it. So

this is one

exception. And the ohter is that the Arudha should not fal into the same hose as

the sign.

Then it is in the 10th therefrom.

 

What are the conditions for forming the above two exceptions? If the lord of the

sign is

in the 4th or 10th from it, the Arudha would fall into the 7th. So we apply the

first

rule. If the lord of the sign is in the same sign or in the 7th from it, then

the Arudha

would fall into the same sign, so we shift ti to the 10th from it. Is this

clear? I

thought that there was some other exception.

 

And guess what is the reason for this exception with the lord of the sign in

Kendras from

it? Bacause the Kendras are called Vishnu-sthanas, and Vishnu (or Krishna) is

Satyam Param

Dhimahi. So this modifies the Arudha, as Vishnu may never fall into illusion.

 

Yours, Gauranga das

 

> Recommendation/Instruction from Brendan

> Yes, the problem is this. Libra in 12th, Venus is in 10th from 12th. When a

> planet is in the 10th house, the 4th becomes the Arudha. Capricorn is

> fourth

> from Libra. It is one of the exceptions.

>

> My Response then Brendan's

> thx for this info... Now I have read the rules oh 10 times

> and I didn't see this rule specifically , but when I seen it

> in the chart I thought " is there a rule I have not read? " .

> SO when I look at Upadesa Sutras pg. 15 stanza 1.1.31 , 1.1.32

> I do not see the rule... is it some place else e.g. BPHS?

> can you direct me , so I can mark the page....

>

> ( Brendan's)

> > A good observation and you are right, BHPS or Upadesa Sutras (Rath) do not

> > seem to mention this exception. I use what I have learned from Gurudev's

> > writings and maybe he or Narasimha or any other participant can answer

> this

> > for us. I have never asked the question myself!

>

> Hope this helps...

> Siksyati Iti sisya

>

> Praanam,

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