Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay, Here is my attempt at the homework on Argala Theory. Om Guave Namah, Argala Workshop Questions: Houses 4, 2 and 11 have been chosen for primary argala, in my opinion, because they are houses of primary support, or sustenance and gain. If these houses are well represented then any matters pertaining to the house in question will thrive due to the initial and basic support. The basic meaning of the word Vipreeta means (vipariita = inverted, contrary to rule, wrong vipariitaM = the opposite vipariitakaraNii = the upside-down posture vipariitaan.h = in the wrong direction vipariitaani = just the opposite). Therefore when Parasara labels the nature of virodha argala as an obstruction I have understood this to mean the opposite of what one would expect, so instead of being bad, it becomes a positive thing. Mind you the positive effects are probably experienced only after initial struggle. How can the 10th, 12th and 3rd houses can bring obstruction to the argala in the 4th, 2nd, and 11th houses? My rationalization for this situation is as follows. The 10th house has to do with status and poor status certainly has a direct impact on the quality of one’s sustenance. Likewise the 12th house is the house of loss and should that be stronger than the 2nd house it’s logical to expect a deficiency in those things necessary to creating a healthy and strong environment. In the 3rd house we already have a situation where malefic planets become positive due, I expect, to the goal-orientation of the individual. Conversely, when benefic planets are situated in the 3rd house as much as this can be positive in terms of spirituality and non-violence, it does not give a fighting spirit. What are various sources of strength for a sign and can these be used to evaluate argala and obstruction? Signs can be assessed by checking the number of planets situated in them, the more planets, the stronger the signs. House rulership also plays a role as the moveable sign are the strongest, the fixed next and the duel the weakest. Both types of aspects, rasi and graha, to signs have a bearing on the strength of the signs. And finally, the SAV totals received by each sign will also have a bearing. Shad bala will also play a role in the evaluation of planetary strength and therefore will also play a role in the determination of argala and obstruction. Malefic planets placed in houses 2, 4, and 11, cause papaargala. In other words the support may not come in a way that is necessarily pleasing but it will come nonetheless. I can not answer this because I can not find a definition for either of these words therefore without knowing even their root meaning, I am lost. In real life terms a lot of fight, or stamina is required to achieve gains. Therefore it is logical that as the 3rd house represents our bravery and our ability to focus can have a direct bearing on the likelihood of our gains, as represented by the 11th house. Another factor is that the 11th house is the 9th from the 3rd and such is the house of ‘luck’ and good fortune. Again, a mentioned earlier vipareta argala may mean success after a period of struggle. Secondary Argala The other two houses that are reckoned for secondary argala are the sixth and the 8th. The 6th gives papargala whereas the 8th gives subhargala on each other. The influence of the secondary argala groups occur as a reflection of the primary argala which can be readily seen in one’s life, unlike the secondary argala which is considerably more subtle. The assessments involving Rahu and Ketu are calculated in the opposite fashion because their movement is always retrograde. To my present knowledge the reversal applies only to the nodes. The ninth house will cause secondary virodha argala due to a reflection of primary positions and thereby the 9th house becomes 3rd from the 7th. (I’ll go stand in the corner now. This is the only reason I can come up with!). In keeping with my current reasoning the secondary influence coming from the 5th house is positive because the 5th house becomes the 11th house of gain, from the 7th house. Likewise the virodha of the 6th house is logical because it is now the 12th house from the 7th and the 8th house becomes the 2nd from the 7th thereby providing secondary suhbhargala for the 7th house. The 6th house pertains to enemies therefore I favor the idea that the impact on the length of life would have to do with enemies as the 6 weaknesses involve much more than just one house. The number and quality of the planets indicates the strength of the argala. Unfortunately I do not understand the point that is being made in this question. I have read BPHS 33.2-9 numerous times and can not seem to get a handle on what is being asked. Question: Is argala a primary consideration or should it be used to support information gathered in less obscure ways? - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Friday, September 12, 2003 4:59 AM |Sri Varaha| Argala Om Gurave NamahDear Jyotisa This is the material for you to read/attempt to answer for the workshop. The questions will be discussed at the workshop with some fine illustrations. Try to attempt these questions, even if they are seemingly difficult. The Jyotisa Gurus can lead. -------------------- Argalä Theory Paräsara: BPHS 33.2 maitreya särgalä näma yayä bhävaphalaà dåòham | sthiraà kheöaphalaà ca syät sä'dhunä kathyate mayä || Translation: Maitreya! It (the Jyotiña tool/principle) is named argalä by using which the definite results of the houses and planets are determined. This was enunciated by the seers to me. During the daçä of a planet that has nothing to do with the second house either by ownership or aspect, do we stop eating? The second house indicates the act of eating and if a planet has nothing to do with it by either ownership or aspect or having some relationship with its lord, it would imply that the house is being ignored and the activities indicated by the house cannot happen. Then how do we eat at all during the period of such a planet? Argalä means planetary/sign intervention. Argalä is that principle by which every planet or sign affects every other planet or sign in the zodiac. It shows that all activities related to all the houses and planets occur at all times. What we need to know is how these signs and planets are affected by the daçä planet/sign. Primary argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third houses respectively. Questions for discussion 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? 2. Why does Paräsara use the word ‘bädhaka’ to explain the nature of the virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each argalä and bädhaka? Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). Questions for discussion 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination of argalä and obstruction? 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is this beneficial or what is its real import? 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 ‘vyädhikäù’ is the word used by Santanam whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? Secondary Argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The nodes ‘tamo-graha’ also have the argalä and obstruction of the planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). Questions for discussion 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the tamo-graha – Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| Questions for discussion 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? In this manner, study the remaining sloka from Båhat Paräsara Horä Çaçtra and list out your questions and doubts. 12. Paräsara BPHS 33.8-18 räçito grahataçcäpi vijïeyä dvividhä'rgalä | nirbädhakä suphaladä viphalä ca sabädhakä || 8|| yatra räçau sthitaù kheöastasya päkäntaraà yadä | tasmin käle phalaà jïeyaà nirviçaìkaà dvijottama || 9|| argaläà pratibandhaïca kathamäìghricaturthayoù | dvitryaìghrayoçca mitho vipra cintayediti me matam || 10|| pade lagne made väpi niräbhäsärgalä yadä | tadä jäto'tivikhyäto bahubhägyayuto bhavet || 11|| yasya päpaù çubho väpi grahastiñöhet çubhärgale | tena drañörekñitaà lagnaà präbalyäyopakalpyate || 12|| särgale ca dhane vipra dhanadhänyasamanvitaù | tåtéye sodarädénäà sukhamuktaà manéñibhiù || 13|| caturthe särgale gehapaçubandhukulairyutaù | païcame putrapauträdisaàyuto buddhimännaraù || 14|| ñañöhe ripubhayaà käme dhanadärasukhaà bahu | añöame jäyate kañöaà dharme bhägyodayo bhavet || 15|| daçame räjasammänaà läbhe läbhasamanvitaù | särgale ca vyaye vipra vyayädhikyaà prajäyate || 16|| çubhagrahärgaläyäà tu saukhyaà bahuvidhaà bhavet | madhyaà päpärgaläyäà ca miçräyämapi cottamam || 17|| lagnapaïcamabhägyeñu särgaleñu dvijottama | jätaçca jäyate räjä bhägyavän nätra saàçayaù || 18|| --____________________Best Regards,Sanjay Rathhttp://srath.com |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 OM GURAVE NAMAH Dear Sanjay, Argala means bolt or intervention that will have a definite effect , where the rasi dristhi can show knowledge about and Graha dristi desire for something, the Argala will give a definite result. For the birth of a child we look for argala on or obstruction to papa argala on the D7 Lagna or its lord. Argala shows a promise and Papa Argala (malefics) show a promise that will be fulfilled by questionable means and with difficulty. During the dasa of a planet or sign all of the VARGA charts are be assessed for argala to see what areas in the life the planet/sign is capable or otherwise of providing definite fruits. Signification of the houses VIRODHA means oppose/obstruct and it can block good Argala which can be a problem and it can block papa argala which can be helpful 2nd - provides sustenance obstructed by 12th 4th - state of mind, mood, happiness obstructed by 10th 11th - is catalyst that will help obstructed by 3rd 5th - representing intelligence, movable assets obstructed by 9th 8th - hidden wealth obstructed by 6th 3rd - with malefics will give us more fight to achieve. No Virodha 7th - can help or hinder depending on its nature The following are some notes collected on Argala: - The AK with unobstructed argala gives a blessed life - The Sun with unobstructed argala gives fame and status. - Natural or temporal malefics in the place of argala cause papargala - The house a planet tries to help is hindered by those same houses. for instance, Aries provides Argala to Pisces, Capricorn and Gemini signs which provide Virodha argala on Taurus, Cancer and Aquarius. - 2nd, 4th, and 11th provide visible results while the 5th and 8th are invisible - The Nature of the planet is more important than its lordship - The planet that give or takes the Argala can be read as people who will obstruct or help. for instance Venus providing Argala can show women who will helpful. also vehicles - Argala of a planet will be according to its nature. e.g. Jupiter is generous, etc - Friendship or otherwise between the planets giving and receiving the Argala will influence the results. - Friendship or otherwise between the planet and the Karaka of the house will influence the results. Hostility between the house karaka and the argala will cause difficulties. For instance Mars in the 6th would provide Subhaargala on 3rd house who's karaka is Mars which would add to his strength to fight. -------------------- Argala is based on the types of houses that are providing the help or hindering. The KENDRAS (1st, 4th,. 7th, 10th )are associated with the present, are RAJAS and are of a HUMAN nature ruled by BRAHMA representing the current generation. The PANAPARAS (2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th) are associated with the future, are TAMAS and are of an ANIMAL nature ruled by SHIVA representing the future generation The APOKLIMAS (3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th) are associated with the past, are SATTVA and are of a DIVINE nature ruled by VISHNU representing the past generations The PANAPARAS as well as the 4th cause argala and the Apoklimas 10th cause Virodha obstruct showing the DIVINE obstructing the ANIMAL to express HUMAN potential. The Divine using communication, intellect, knowledge and mediation to tame the desires. The above are some thoughts on the concept of Argala which like all of Vedic knowledge can be difficult for us foreigners grasp and is wide open for comment and correction. Please accept my apology in not being able to answer all of the questions, I will continue to work on this. Best wishes, Pearl om namo bhagavate vasudeva yaom tat satSri Jagannath Center: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 Thank you Pearl and Kanupriya for your efforts, for excellent, excellent, informative posts on Argala- I feel /intimately /!??/ better connected to the concept/s/ you have explained- yes, Kanupriya, past obstructs future- I've had that problem, not only with primary /5th-9th/ argala.. Best regards, Anna - "kanu priya" <kanupriya003 <varahamihira > Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:35 AM |Sri Varaha| Argala > Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sanjay,> Just an attempt with something I wrote on> Argala,your questions are deep.> Regards,> Kanupriya. > > Argala> > Importance of studying Argala> > The literal translation of the term Argala is> Intervention. This could be an intervention caused by> a planet in the affairs of the house as well as on the> effect of a particular planet. Hence, Argala becomes> an important factor when we want to study the results> of a particular house or even a planet. Argala from> the various planets can also cause certain yogas and> can also hinder certain yogas further making its study> an important part of any chart. In transit too Argala> holds its importance and so will the effects be felt> as per the dasas. Argala is applicable not just in the> Rasi chart but the various Varghas as well. It can> also be applied to the Bhavas, Karakas, Arudhas and> special lagnas. Due to its obvious effects Argala is> studied as a part of Vedic astrology and Maharishi> Jaimini lays a lot of stress on the study of Argala as> it effects the results of the house or planet. Further> Argala also plays an important role when we want to> give remedial measures. This would become clear, as we> understand the various types of Argalas.> > Various aspects of Argala> > Argala can have different factors to it. It is mainly> a concept, which can further be applied to not only> the various planets but also to houses. Thus we study> Argala not just as the effect given by a planet on> another planet but also its effect on the whole house> and the native as well. Argala can be seen from not> just the Lagna but from each house too.> 1. Planets in one particular house (lets say A) will> give Argala to planets in another house (lets say B) > 2. Planets from another house (lets say C) may be> obstructing the same Argala and changing the results> further.> 3.Now how do we reckon the result of house B that is> receiving Argala from House A and facing an> obstruction at the same time from house C? Here it's> also important to note which planets are giving Argala> and which planet is obstructing it. Are they only> malefic planets or benefic and which is stronger .All> these factors will make an impact on the results of> the house. If the same Argalas are on the Lagna then> these factors will affect the native dierectly. It may> give attributes to the person's nature.> 4. Argala on various planets can be studied to look at> a particular aspect in the chart. For example to see> all the influences on the native's wealth-sources> Argalas on Jupiter can be seen.> 5. Argala is also studied not only on the various> houses but on Arudha as well. Maharishi Parashar gives> simple effects of Argala on Arudha. Should there be> Argala on the Arudha Pada, for the natal Lagna and for> the 7th from both, the native will be famous and> fortunate. A malefic, or a benefic, causing> unobstructed Argala, giving a Dristi to Lagna will> make one famous. Similarly a malefic, or a benefic,> causing unobstructed Argala, giving a Dristi to Dhan> Bhava denotes acquisition of wealth and grains, to> Sahaj Bhava happiness from co-born, to Bandhu Bhava> residences, quadrupeds and relatives, to Putr Bhava> sons, grand sons and intelligence, to Ari Bhava fear> from enemies, to Yuvati Bhava abundant wealth and> marital happiness, to Randhr Bhava difficulties, to> Dharm Bhava fortunes, to Karm Bhava royal honour, to> Labh Bhava gains and to Vyaya Bhava expenses. The> Argala by benefics will give various kinds of> happiness, while benefic effects will be meddling with> malefic Argalas. Argala by both benefics and malefics> will yield results.> 6. Maharishis say, that the Argala, caused by one> Grah, will yield limited effect, by two mediums and by> more than two, excellent effects. Argalas should be> counted from a Rasi, or a Graha, as the case may be.> 7. The Argala, which is unobstructed, will be> fruitful, while the one duly obstructed will go> astray. The Argala effects will be derived in the Dasa> periods of the Rasi, or Graha concerned.> > Calculation of Argala > There are various fixed rules for the calculation of> Argalas.These rules are applied to the planets and> houses.> > · The 2nd house gives Argala to the lagna; the 12th> house obstructs the same argala.> · The 11th house gives gains to the lagna; the 3rd> house obstructs these gains.> · The 4th house ensures happiness to the native/lagna;> the 10th house obstructs the same.> · The 5th house shows the future and the 9th show the> past. The past always obstructs, the future, which is> yet to be. So, 5th house gives argala, the 9th> obstructs it.> · 8th house gives Argala to lagna, and the 6th house> obstructs it.> > Other thoughts on Argala> > · Argala can be applied to any house, treating it as> Lagna.> > · To see Argala on the natives enemy 6th house can be> treated as Lagna and the results be read from there> on. Similarly, to see the Argala on the natives home> treat the 4th house as Lagna and see the results.> > · Since planets also represent people various results> can be seen from a chart to read the Virodh Argala and> Subh Argala to understand which people will support> the native and which people will cause obstructions.> · There are some exceptions in the argalas. If a> planet is in the 3rd house, it will obstruct the> planets in 11th house but if that planet is a malefic,> then after obstructing the Argala of the 11th, it will> itself bring Argala through increased effort such as> fights or some strife. This indicates that the native> later gains Argala by making a stronger effort. This> is only attributed to the 3rd house, as it's the> Parakrama Bhava.> · Ketu's Argalas and obstruction is counted in a> reverse manner. Jaimini only mentions the reverse> exception for Ketu. This could indicate that the> slokas in BPHS are corrupted. Then lets try to> understand why, when we look at Argala on Graha's, we> are looking at Argala's of various types of fruits.> Rahu gives Bhoga Marga, or the efforts to stay in the> cycle of rebirth just like the other 7 graha's, hence> their argalas should be reckoned normally. Ketu wants> the opposite and hence only its argalas are reckoned> in reverse.> > Classification of Argala> > Argala can mainly be classified into:> A.PRIMARY ARGALA: Argala given by the houses 2nd, 4th> and 11th is primary Argala since it effects the> lifestyle and thinking of the native.Argala from these> houses can directly influence and change very personal> likes, dislikes and prefrences of the native and so> holds the Primary influence.> B.SECONDARY ARGALA: Argala given by houses 5th and 8th> are Secondary Argala.> Various terms for Argala:> > 1.Shubh Argala> 2.Ashubh Argala or Papa Argala.> 3.Virodha Argala.> 4.Vipreeta Argala.> > 1.SHUBH ARGALA: Benefic planets give Shubh or benefic> Argala. Argala given by Jupiter on the 9th house may> make the person learned and dharmic.> > 2.ASHUBH ARGALA OR PAPA ARGALA: When a malefic planet> gives Argala it becomes Papa Argala. Rahu' s Aargala> on the 7th house may lead to problems in married life> or the native may experience problems with work> associates. > > 3.VIRODH ARGALA: The literal translation of the word> Virodh means opposing or in opposition. When an Argala> is obstructed by another Argala the obstructing Argala> is called Virodh Argala as it works in opposing the> present Argala. The most important point here is that> Virodh Argala can be both harmful and beneficial for> the native. When Virodh Argala blocks a benefic Argala> it becomes an obstruction to the Shubh or benefic> results. At the same time when Virodh Argala blocks> Papa Argala it helps the native by obstructing evil> effects. This particular Argala is very useful while> giving remedial measures as it works both ways.> Remedies can be given to obstruct the evil results> from another Argala by strengthening this Argala or> they can be given to remove this Argala when it> obstructs benefic Argala.> > 4.VIPREETA ARGALA: Vipreeta means just the opposite.> This particular Argala is called Vipreeta as it gives> its results after giving just the opposite results at> first. In the beginning the native is forced to make> extra efforts to achieve results later. If a planet is> in the 3rd house, it will obstruct the planets in 11th> house but if that planet is a malefic, then after> obstructing the Argala of the 11th, it will itself> bring Argala through increased effort such as fights> or some strife. This indicates that the native later> gains Argala by making a stronger effort. This is only> attributed to the 3rd house, as it's the Parakrama> Bhava. > Argala and Yogas> Several Yoags are formed due to Argala further> enhancing its importance in a chart. One such example> is Bandhana Yoga. When the Lagna is faced with two> Argalas one from the 2nd house and one from the 12th> house or rather when the lagna is placed between> several other planets it forms Bandhana Yoga. The> literal translation of Bandhana is binding or to> curtail activity and to put in some boundaries. This> yoga is called Bandhana Yoga since it places the> native between two different Primary Argalas and the> native is bound by this effect from two sides. > > Timing events with Argala; Argala and Dasas> > When we look at the dasas in a chart we are looking at> the circumstances, as they would change with the> planetary movements. Argala here would also change> along with the planets. This makes Argala a useful> tool in timing the various effects and also events to> some extent. A malefic in the 2nd house will deprive> the native from enjoying the results of that house.> Among other results this could also indicate lack of> good food and family support. However, if a benefic is> placed in the 12th house then this Argala is> obstructed and the native may enjoy neutral results.> But in the dasa of this particular benefic planet the> native will be forced to be near the family and enjoy> good food, as the effect of this Argala will be> completely experienced. The dasa running will enhance> various Argalas in the chart and give differing> results and this can be timed by studying the various> Argalas formed and applied to the dasas. Argalas given> by the various planets can also be studied to further> get a more accurate picture. Argala of Jupiter will> indicate matters regarding wealth, education, etc.> Studying the planetary Argalas on the dasa planets> will give further details about the circumstances> surrounding the native.> > Argalas and Karkas> > The various Karkas for the houses and bhavas should> also be applied to while studying Argala. For example,> if Mars in the 6th house. The 6th is for servants,> strife, bad work, fights/battles, enemies etc. The> karaka for servants and strife is Saturn and Mars is> very > inimical towards it, so the native will have problems> with servants and is likely to avoid too much work.> Furthermore, Mars will give Argala on the 5th house.> The 5th house shows authority, children, followers,> siksha and mantra. The karaka for authority is Mars,> so Mars' argala will give more authority. Childbirth> will have problems, as Mars will cause excessive> bleeding and miscarriages and the mantras will be> strong. Mars will give Subha Argala on the 3rd house.> This Shubh Argala over the 3rd house will show> victory over enemies, maithuna, conception, younger> co-borns etc. In this way we can combine the karakas> with the various Argalas in any chart to see the> results change.> Graha Argala> Graha Argala is the Argala given by planets on> other planets. Till now we understood the effect of> Argala on the various houses. Now lets understand the> Argala on the various planets. Each planet gives> Argala on the2nd, 4th and 11th from where it's placed.> So Argala is given on planets that are placed in these> positions. While obstructers of the Argala will be> those placed in the 10th, 12th and 3rd from a planet.> If the Argala causing Grah is stronger than the> obstructing one, the former will prevail. If the> numbers of Argalas are more than the obstructing> Grahas, then also the Argala will prevail. Virodh> Argala by one planet on the other will change the> fruits given by that planet and they will be> constrained. If there are 3, or more malefics in the> 3rd from a planet they will cause Vipreet Argala (more> effective intervention), which will also be harmless> and can be very favorable. The 5th is also an Argala> place, while the Grah in the 9th will counteract such> Argala. This concept holds great importance in> studying Gochara.Planets in transition have their> effects on the native and the natal chart and Argala> by these planets will further change this effect. The> basic nature of the planet will remain the same but> the Argala will affect the fruits experienced by the> native through that particular planet. According to> the Argala given it may be denied, delayed or> enhanced. Hence it's important to study the Argala of> the various planets on each other. > > Argala and Remedies> Argala can be used while prescribing remedies. When we> want to initiate the effect of a good planet in any> chart then there are two ways of doing that. We can> enhance or propitiate the planet and we can remove the> obstruction, which is causing the good effect to be> lost. This is where Argala is looked at. Remedies can> be given to remove or decrease the effect of Virodh> Argala.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Dear Sarajit, Kanupriya and all, I need more on this- why is Rahu not reckoned on reverse- Rahu can see 'behind' and is therefore papargala 2nd?Is that a mess? I wish I could see answers to questions as given by Sanjay - for both the questions and the answers are important- I feel, and seems Kanupriya agrees- One more thing /at least/: "8th house gives Argala to lagna, and the 6th house> obstructs it. - ah I am not there, Kanupriya, can you please 'convince' me /i.e. clarify this for me? Sarajit, and other Gurus, your comments won't hurt either. Thanks for tolerating my Qs, Ideally, it would be great to ...or should I wait for CDs? Anna - N.Anna varahamihira Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:33 AM Re: |Sri Varaha| Argala Thank you Pearl and Kanupriya for your efforts, for excellent, excellent, informative posts on Argala- I feel /intimately /!??/ better connected to the concept/s/ you have explained- yes, Kanupriya, past obstructs future- I've had that problem, not only with primary /5th-9th/ argala.. Best regards, Anna - "kanu priya" <kanupriya003 <varahamihira > Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:35 AM |Sri Varaha| Argala > Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sanjay,> Just an attempt with something I wrote on> Argala,your questions are deep.> Regards,> Kanupriya. > > Argala> > Importance of studying Argala> > The literal translation of the term Argala is> Intervention. This could be an intervention caused by> a planet in the affairs of the house as well as on the> effect of a particular planet. Hence, Argala becomes> an important factor when we want to study the results> of a particular house or even a planet. Argala from> the various planets can also cause certain yogas and> can also hinder certain yogas further making its study> an important part of any chart. In transit too Argala> holds its importance and so will the effects be felt> as per the dasas. Argala is applicable not just in the> Rasi chart but the various Varghas as well. It can> also be applied to the Bhavas, Karakas, Arudhas and> special lagnas. Due to its obvious effects Argala is> studied as a part of Vedic astrology and Maharishi> Jaimini lays a lot of stress on the study of Argala as> it effects the results of the house or planet. Further> Argala also plays an important role when we want to> give remedial measures. This would become clear, as we> understand the various types of Argalas.> > Various aspects of Argala> > Argala can have different factors to it. It is mainly> a concept, which can further be applied to not only> the various planets but also to houses. Thus we study> Argala not just as the effect given by a planet on> another planet but also its effect on the whole house> and the native as well. Argala can be seen from not> just the Lagna but from each house too.> 1. Planets in one particular house (lets say A) will> give Argala to planets in another house (lets say B) > 2. Planets from another house (lets say C) may be> obstructing the same Argala and changing the results> further.> 3.Now how do we reckon the result of house B that is> receiving Argala from House A and facing an> obstruction at the same time from house C? Here it's> also important to note which planets are giving Argala> and which planet is obstructing it. Are they only> malefic planets or benefic and which is stronger .All> these factors will make an impact on the results of> the house. If the same Argalas are on the Lagna then> these factors will affect the native dierectly. It may> give attributes to the person's nature.> 4. Argala on various planets can be studied to look at> a particular aspect in the chart. For example to see> all the influences on the native's wealth-sources> Argalas on Jupiter can be seen.> 5. Argala is also studied not only on the various> houses but on Arudha as well. Maharishi Parashar gives> simple effects of Argala on Arudha. Should there be> Argala on the Arudha Pada, for the natal Lagna and for> the 7th from both, the native will be famous and> fortunate. A malefic, or a benefic, causing> unobstructed Argala, giving a Dristi to Lagna will> make one famous. Similarly a malefic, or a benefic,> causing unobstructed Argala, giving a Dristi to Dhan> Bhava denotes acquisition of wealth and grains, to> Sahaj Bhava happiness from co-born, to Bandhu Bhava> residences, quadrupeds and relatives, to Putr Bhava> sons, grand sons and intelligence, to Ari Bhava fear> from enemies, to Yuvati Bhava abundant wealth and> marital happiness, to Randhr Bhava difficulties, to> Dharm Bhava fortunes, to Karm Bhava royal honour, to> Labh Bhava gains and to Vyaya Bhava expenses. The> Argala by benefics will give various kinds of> happiness, while benefic effects will be meddling with> malefic Argalas. Argala by both benefics and malefics> will yield results.> 6. Maharishis say, that the Argala, caused by one> Grah, will yield limited effect, by two mediums and by> more than two, excellent effects. Argalas should be> counted from a Rasi, or a Graha, as the case may be.> 7. The Argala, which is unobstructed, will be> fruitful, while the one duly obstructed will go> astray. The Argala effects will be derived in the Dasa> periods of the Rasi, or Graha concerned.> > Calculation of Argala > There are various fixed rules for the calculation of> Argalas.These rules are applied to the planets and> houses.> > · The 2nd house gives Argala to the lagna; the 12th> house obstructs the same argala.> · The 11th house gives gains to the lagna; the 3rd> house obstructs these gains.> · The 4th house ensures happiness to the native/lagna;> the 10th house obstructs the same.> · The 5th house shows the future and the 9th show the> past. The past always obstructs, the future, which is> yet to be. So, 5th house gives argala, the 9th> obstructs it.> · 8th house gives Argala to lagna, and the 6th house> obstructs it.> > Other thoughts on Argala> > · Argala can be applied to any house, treating it as> Lagna.> > · To see Argala on the natives enemy 6th house can be> treated as Lagna and the results be read from there> on. Similarly, to see the Argala on the natives home> treat the 4th house as Lagna and see the results.> > · Since planets also represent people various results> can be seen from a chart to read the Virodh Argala and> Subh Argala to understand which people will support> the native and which people will cause obstructions.> · There are some exceptions in the argalas. If a> planet is in the 3rd house, it will obstruct the> planets in 11th house but if that planet is a malefic,> then after obstructing the Argala of the 11th, it will> itself bring Argala through increased effort such as> fights or some strife. This indicates that the native> later gains Argala by making a stronger effort. This> is only attributed to the 3rd house, as it's the> Parakrama Bhava.> · Ketu's Argalas and obstruction is counted in a> reverse manner. Jaimini only mentions the reverse> exception for Ketu. This could indicate that the> slokas in BPHS are corrupted. Then lets try to> understand why, when we look at Argala on Graha's, we> are looking at Argala's of various types of fruits.> Rahu gives Bhoga Marga, or the efforts to stay in the> cycle of rebirth just like the other 7 graha's, hence> their argalas should be reckoned normally. Ketu wants> the opposite and hence only its argalas are reckoned> in reverse.> > Classification of Argala> > Argala can mainly be classified into:> A.PRIMARY ARGALA: Argala given by the houses 2nd, 4th> and 11th is primary Argala since it effects the> lifestyle and thinking of the native.Argala from these> houses can directly influence and change very personal> likes, dislikes and prefrences of the native and so> holds the Primary influence.> B.SECONDARY ARGALA: Argala given by houses 5th and 8th> are Secondary Argala.> Various terms for Argala:> > 1.Shubh Argala> 2.Ashubh Argala or Papa Argala.> 3.Virodha Argala.> 4.Vipreeta Argala.> > 1.SHUBH ARGALA: Benefic planets give Shubh or benefic> Argala. Argala given by Jupiter on the 9th house may> make the person learned and dharmic.> > 2.ASHUBH ARGALA OR PAPA ARGALA: When a malefic planet> gives Argala it becomes Papa Argala. Rahu' s Aargala> on the 7th house may lead to problems in married life> or the native may experience problems with work> associates. > > 3.VIRODH ARGALA: The literal translation of the word> Virodh means opposing or in opposition. When an Argala> is obstructed by another Argala the obstructing Argala> is called Virodh Argala as it works in opposing the> present Argala. The most important point here is that> Virodh Argala can be both harmful and beneficial for> the native. When Virodh Argala blocks a benefic Argala> it becomes an obstruction to the Shubh or benefic> results. At the same time when Virodh Argala blocks> Papa Argala it helps the native by obstructing evil> effects. This particular Argala is very useful while> giving remedial measures as it works both ways.> Remedies can be given to obstruct the evil results> from another Argala by strengthening this Argala or> they can be given to remove this Argala when it> obstructs benefic Argala.> > 4.VIPREETA ARGALA: Vipreeta means just the opposite.> This particular Argala is called Vipreeta as it gives> its results after giving just the opposite results at> first. In the beginning the native is forced to make> extra efforts to achieve results later. If a planet is> in the 3rd house, it will obstruct the planets in 11th> house but if that planet is a malefic, then after> obstructing the Argala of the 11th, it will itself> bring Argala through increased effort such as fights> or some strife. This indicates that the native later> gains Argala by making a stronger effort. This is only> attributed to the 3rd house, as it's the Parakrama> Bhava. > Argala and Yogas> Several Yoags are formed due to Argala further> enhancing its importance in a chart. One such example> is Bandhana Yoga. When the Lagna is faced with two> Argalas one from the 2nd house and one from the 12th> house or rather when the lagna is placed between> several other planets it forms Bandhana Yoga. The> literal translation of Bandhana is binding or to> curtail activity and to put in some boundaries. This> yoga is called Bandhana Yoga since it places the> native between two different Primary Argalas and the> native is bound by this effect from two sides. > > Timing events with Argala; Argala and Dasas> > When we look at the dasas in a chart we are looking at> the circumstances, as they would change with the> planetary movements. Argala here would also change> along with the planets. This makes Argala a useful> tool in timing the various effects and also events to> some extent. A malefic in the 2nd house will deprive> the native from enjoying the results of that house.> Among other results this could also indicate lack of> good food and family support. However, if a benefic is> placed in the 12th house then this Argala is> obstructed and the native may enjoy neutral results.> But in the dasa of this particular benefic planet the> native will be forced to be near the family and enjoy> good food, as the effect of this Argala will be> completely experienced. The dasa running will enhance> various Argalas in the chart and give differing> results and this can be timed by studying the various> Argalas formed and applied to the dasas. Argalas given> by the various planets can also be studied to further> get a more accurate picture. Argala of Jupiter will> indicate matters regarding wealth, education, etc.> Studying the planetary Argalas on the dasa planets> will give further details about the circumstances> surrounding the native.> > Argalas and Karkas> > The various Karkas for the houses and bhavas should> also be applied to while studying Argala. For example,> if Mars in the 6th house. The 6th is for servants,> strife, bad work, fights/battles, enemies etc. The> karaka for servants and strife is Saturn and Mars is> very > inimical towards it, so the native will have problems> with servants and is likely to avoid too much work.> Furthermore, Mars will give Argala on the 5th house.> The 5th house shows authority, children, followers,> siksha and mantra. The karaka for authority is Mars,> so Mars' argala will give more authority. Childbirth> will have problems, as Mars will cause excessive> bleeding and miscarriages and the mantras will be> strong. Mars will give Subha Argala on the 3rd house.> This Shubh Argala over the 3rd house will show> victory over enemies, maithuna, conception, younger> co-borns etc. In this way we can combine the karakas> with the various Argalas in any chart to see the> results change.> Graha Argala> Graha Argala is the Argala given by planets on> other planets. Till now we understood the effect of> Argala on the various houses. Now lets understand the> Argala on the various planets. Each planet gives> Argala on the2nd, 4th and 11th from where it's placed.> So Argala is given on planets that are placed in these> positions. While obstructers of the Argala will be> those placed in the 10th, 12th and 3rd from a planet.> If the Argala causing Grah is stronger than the> obstructing one, the former will prevail. If the> numbers of Argalas are more than the obstructing> Grahas, then also the Argala will prevail. Virodh> Argala by one planet on the other will change the> fruits given by that planet and they will be> constrained. If there are 3, or more malefics in the> 3rd from a planet they will cause Vipreet Argala (more> effective intervention), which will also be harmless> and can be very favorable. The 5th is also an Argala> place, while the Grah in the 9th will counteract such> Argala. This concept holds great importance in> studying Gochara.Planets in transition have their> effects on the native and the natal chart and Argala> by these planets will further change this effect. The> basic nature of the planet will remain the same but> the Argala will affect the fruits experienced by the> native through that particular planet. According to> the Argala given it may be denied, delayed or> enhanced. Hence it's important to study the Argala of> the various planets on each other. > > Argala and Remedies> Argala can be used while prescribing remedies. When we> want to initiate the effect of a good planet in any> chart then there are two ways of doing that. We can> enhance or propitiate the planet and we can remove the> obstruction, which is causing the good effect to be> lost. This is where Argala is looked at. Remedies can> be given to remove or decrease the effect of Virodh> Argala.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Anna, I had already mentioned this in the article itself but I copy paste it for you below incase you missed it: When we look at Argala on Graha's, we are looking at Argala's of various types of fruits. Rahu gives Bhoga Marga, or the efforts to stay in the cycle of rebirth just like the other 7 graha's, hence their argalas should be reckoned normally. Ketu wants the opposite and hence only its argalas are reckoned in reverse. One more thing /at least/: " 8th house gives Argala > to lagna, and the 6th house > > obstructs it. - ah I am not there, Kanupriya, can > you please 'convince' me /i.e. clarify this for me? The 8th house is seen for longevity, the 6th house is seen for diseases and suffering of kind due to the six sins committed by us.So, the sixth house shows the Danda or the punishment for our own sins which comes to us as suffering.The longevity is obstructed hence by the diseases and suffering.Hope this clarifies. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Dear Zoran, You are always so studious, it's pleasure to read your posts- /rare, though/ Thank you for responding to all questions, which are great for understanding too, as Kanupriya said 'deep'. I understand that you are proud of your Sanskrit knowledge and forgot perhaps the stages of your study /seen archive/ but it would be great if you translate words in the brackets, please, you comments are such an asset to all of us, I dare say- it's a pity that prevents full understanding for majority non-Gurus and non-Sanskrit students, as I am myself. /I know of at least five with the same standpoint-/ @ Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama /what would be English word, please?/ may give gains in malefic ways.. you say, if 3rd is strong- I have this, and it's right I tend to get/do what I sincerely want, but not in a malefic way- perhaps other influences.. What 'malefic way would be, at the first place how far do you stretch this? is not clear to me... I could have had much more, but I like to do things 'right'...God can see, you know...And the fact that He has been so good to me, not malefic way, I guess @For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra /what would be English word, please?/ would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? you said- However, MY RY Mars is there /4th/ and my mother is/ has been in perfect 'health and spirit' as some vedics used to say- and you know my house is pretty fancy, can that be because Mars is RY? Or because other argalas like Ketu wich aspects it? Please comment on this. Can that be some other 'disaster'- f. war, for ex.? @You also said that 11th H gains are not 'in evolutionary way' - you mean because these are "easy gains"? Tanou Tana Danda Hara , house of punishment /11/ 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..- Zoran, Sanjay can understand your private mail, but this not that case- translation, please, elaboration as well, you obviously refer to something that I GUESS you want to share, thus implying that reference group /students and others/ should understand? @> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..-meaning what, for God's sake? Sorry cannot hide irritation.. @Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence-I though I knew what Badhakesh was, but I am not sure if that's the same as Badhak-badhakes for fixed, dual, m. lagnas- and these do not remove, but create misery..Hm must something other, right?@> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti ? or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity- these are statements, but WHY is explanation. svotro you state about 5th, -application?- longevity is in 8th, Ok but but from argala aspect and obstruction- what would that be? Saturn in eight encreases longevity- so what.. etc.. This has been worst explanation, ie not any given..Please comment if you get a chance. Thanks for this post, generally it has potential to be very useful for the list. Best wishes, best dearZoran, please don't cdo this, shes Anna ---- Original Message ----- "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <varahamihira >; <vedic astrology > Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:57 PM |Sri Varaha| ARGALA > Om Namo Narayanaya,> Dear Sanjay,> Third time writing this mail, something crashed... desparate..> another try:> Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity> 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. > 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati..> 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati..> 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic> Jyotisha Guru at > Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India> ahimsa www.sjvc.co.yu> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Thanks Kanupria, I have an impression that 6th adds to lagna growth. Is so obstructive to diminish longevity, why are malefics good there? Thanks for your response, Anna - " kanu priya " <kanupriya003 <varahamihira > Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:53 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Argala > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Anna, > I had already mentioned this in the article > itself but I copy paste it for you below incase you > missed it: > When we look at Argala on Graha's, we > are looking at Argala's of various types of fruits. > Rahu gives Bhoga Marga, or the efforts to stay in the > cycle of rebirth just like the other 7 graha's, hence > their argalas should be reckoned normally. Ketu wants > the opposite and hence only its argalas are reckoned > in reverse. > > One more thing /at least/: " 8th house gives Argala > > to lagna, and the 6th house > > > obstructs it. - ah I am not there, Kanupriya, can > > you please 'convince' me /i.e. clarify this for me? > The 8th house is seen for longevity, the 6th > house is seen for diseases and suffering of kind due > to the six sins committed by us.So, the sixth house > shows the Danda or the punishment for our own sins > which comes to us as suffering.The longevity is > obstructed hence by the diseases and suffering.Hope > this clarifies. > > Best Wishes, > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Anna, Malefics burn away the sins, which is also why we see ''Hara'' from the 6th house.Since the 6th house also indicates enemies, malefics here would indicate matters regarding them too.It's Upchaya or the house of growth because services or jobs done for others are also seen from this house.Please read throughly the chapter on The Sixth House from COVA. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. --- " N.Anna " <anmar wrote: > Thanks Kanupria, > I have an impression that 6th adds to lagna growth. > > Is so obstructive to diminish longevity, why are > malefics good there? > Thanks for your response, > Anna > - > " kanu priya " <kanupriya003 > <varahamihira > > Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:53 PM > Re: |Sri Varaha| Argala > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Anna, > > I had already mentioned this in the > article > > itself but I copy paste it for you below incase > you > > missed it: > > When we look at Argala on Graha's, we > > are looking at Argala's of various types of > fruits. > > Rahu gives Bhoga Marga, or the efforts to stay in > the > > cycle of rebirth just like the other 7 graha's, > hence > > their argalas should be reckoned normally. Ketu > wants > > the opposite and hence only its argalas are > reckoned > > in reverse. > > > > One more thing /at least/: " 8th house gives Argala > > > to lagna, and the 6th house > > > > obstructs it. - ah I am not there, Kanupriya, > can > > > you please 'convince' me /i.e. clarify this for > me? > > The 8th house is seen for longevity, the > 6th > > house is seen for diseases and suffering of kind > due > > to the six sins committed by us.So, the sixth > house > > shows the Danda or the punishment for our own sins > > which comes to us as suffering.The longevity is > > obstructed hence by the diseases and > suffering.Hope > > this clarifies. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Kanupriya. > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Sorry Anna, I was irritated by writting this mail trice, so I was short to the point, being forgetfull of some members not well versed in sanskrit terms. So here it goes: You are always so studious, it's pleasure to read your posts- /rare, though/ Thank you for responding to all questions, which are great for understanding too, as Kanupriya said 'deep'. Thank you- from ever-lasting student.. I understand that you are proud of your Sanskrit knowledge and forgot perhaps the stages of your study /seen archive/ but it would be great if you translate words in the brackets, please, you comments are such an asset to all of us, I dare say- it's a pity that prevents full understanding for majority non-Gurus and non-Sanskrit students, as I am myself. /I know of at least five with the same standpoint-/ @ Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama /what would be English word, please?/ may give gains in malefic ways.. you say, if 3rd is strong- I have this, and it's right I tend to get/do what I sincerely want, but not in a malefic way- perhaps other influences.. Parakrama means courage and self-will... I will answer your private mail, soon.. What 'malefic way would be, at the first place how far do you stretch this? is not clear to me... I could have had much more, but I like to do things 'right'...God can see, you know...And the fact that He has been so good to me, not malefic way, I guess Malefic ways imply promoting self interests above the interests of others- from this to very bad ways of earning such as cheating.. @For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra /what would be English word, please?/ would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? you said- Bhoomi putra means "born from the earth" However, MY RY Mars is there /4th/ and my mother is/ has been in perfect 'health and spirit' as some vedics used to say- and you know my house is pretty fancy, can that be because Mars is RY? Or because other argalas like Ketu wich aspects it? Please comment on this. Can that be some other 'disaster'- f. war, for ex.? We shall talk about this when I rectify your lagna.. I didn't forget your mail:))) @You also said that 11th H gains are not 'in evolutionary way'- you mean because these are "easy gains"? Tanou Tana Danda Hara , house of punishment /11/ 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. - Zoran, Sanjay can understand your private mail, but this not that case- translation, please, elaboration as well, you obviously refer to something that I GUESS you want to share, thus implying that reference group /students and others/ should understand? Malefics in 11th are not good for honest earnings, unless they are related to benefics. Tanou Tana Danda Hara is a shloka from Jaimini, which says that 6/11th houses belong to Shiva, houses of punishment.. Birth on Ekadashi tihi (11th lunar day) is harmful and person will suffer from shad ripu or six prime sins, such as alchocol, greed, passion, desire, sex and anger.. @> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..-meaning what, for God's sake? Sorry cannot hide irritation.. The point is that I do not know too:))) I think it has something to do with three, since it is stated that three malefics in 3rd cause veepreta argala. @Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence- I though I knew what Badhakesh was, but I am not sure if that's the same as Badhak-badhakes for fixed, dual, m. lagnas- and these do not remove, but create misery..Hm must something other, right? Yes it is, they can remove the good infleunce, that is the sense.. @ > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti ? or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity- these are statements, but WHY is explanation. svotro you state about 5th, -application?- longevity is in 8th, Ok but but from argala aspect and obstruction- what would that be? Dhi Shakti is the intelligence signified by Jupiter, -wisdom and balanced and proper /evolutionary judgment. 5th house of intelligence can infleunce growth of Lagna (argala). However, malefic planet in 9th house will destroy dharma abd bhagya (destiny, fortune), and prevent the infleunce of any other planet placed in 5th house ruling children and intelligence. Also malefics in 6th house will have argala on 8th house of longevity. Any malefic in 6th house will have its ayurvedic dosha in disbalance, which will of course infleunce (counterargala) 8th house of longevity.. Saturn in eight encreases longevity- so what.. etc.. This has been worst explanation, ie not any given..Please comment if you get a chance. Saturn in eight increases longevity by his argala over lagna. However, if there is moon in 6th which is stronger than saturn, due to afflicted psyche (moon) and illness imposed by moon, saturn will be counteracted (counter argal) and longevity may not be increased... Thanks for this post, generally it has potential to be very useful for the list. Best wishes, best dearZoran, please don't cdo this, shes Anna Ok Anna, I will not:) Best wishes Zoran ---- Original Message ----- "Zoran Radosavljevic" < ahimsa > < varahamihira >; <vedic astrology > Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:57 PM |Sri Varaha| ARGALA > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Sanjay, > Third time writing this mail, something crashed... desparate.. > another try: > Primary argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 > caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | > tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| > Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively. > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? > Zoran: > 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life. > 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. > > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? > Zoran: > Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. > > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, > Zoran: > 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka? > 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. > 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. > 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 > nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | > tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| > taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | > tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| > Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction? > Zoran: > Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala > 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import? > Zoran: > Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. > 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? > Zoran: > Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct.. > 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? > Zoran: > Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. > Secondary Argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 > païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | > tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| > The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? > Zoran: > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? > Zoran: > I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. > 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? > Zoran: > 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 > ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | > argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? > > Zoran: > Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request > > Primary argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 > caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | > tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| > Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively. > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? > Zoran: > 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life. > 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. > > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? > Zoran: > Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. > > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, > Zoran: > 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka? > 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. > 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. > 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 > nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | > tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| > taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | > tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| > Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction? > Zoran: > Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala > 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import? > Zoran: > Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. > 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? > Zoran: > Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct.. > 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? > Zoran: > Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. > Secondary Argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 > païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | > tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| > The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? > Zoran: > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. > > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? > Zoran: > I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. > 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? > Zoran: > 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 > ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | > argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? > > Zoran: > Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request > > Primary argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 > caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | > tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| > Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively. > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? > Zoran: > 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life. > 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. > > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? > Zoran: > Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. > > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, > Zoran: > 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka? > 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. > 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. > 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 > nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | > tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| > taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | > tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| > Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction? > Zoran: > Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala > 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import? > Zoran: > Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. > 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? > Zoran: > Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct.. > 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? > Zoran: > Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. > Secondary Argalä > Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 > païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | > tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| > The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? > Zoran: > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. > > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? > Zoran: > I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. > 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? > Zoran: > 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity > > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 > ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | > argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| > QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION > 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? > > Zoran: > Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request > > > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic > Jyotisha Guru at > Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India > ahimsa > www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Dear Zoran, Thank you very much, indeed- I am serious about studying, ever-lasting perpetual student here, too:) I was really frustrated, as if you offered cake in a bottle- I appreciate you understood me right, and your ability to recognize, accept and correct commands respect, -that's more important than being right, IMO, for nobody can always be right. Thank you Zorane, I aam one step closer to getting full grasp of argalas! Warmest wishes, Anna sure I would - Zoran Radosavljevic varahamihira Monday, September 15, 2003 9:26 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| ARGALA Om Namo Narayanaya,Sorry Anna, I was irritated by writting this mail trice, so I was short to the point, being forgetfull of some members not well versed in sanskrit terms. So here it goes: You are always so studious, it's pleasure to read your posts- /rare, though/ Thank you for responding to all questions, which are great for understanding too, as Kanupriya said 'deep'.Thank you- from ever-lasting student.. I understand that you are proud of your Sanskrit knowledge and forgot perhaps the stages of your study /seen archive/ but it would be great if you translate words in the brackets, please, you comments are such an asset to all of us, I dare say- it's a pity that prevents full understanding for majority non-Gurus and non-Sanskrit students, as I am myself. /I know of at least five with the same standpoint-/ @ Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama /what would be English word, please?/ may give gains in malefic ways.. you say, if 3rd is strong- I have this, and it's right I tend to get/do what I sincerely want, but not in a malefic way- perhaps other influences..Parakrama means courage and self-will... I will answer your private mail, soon.. What 'malefic way would be, at the first place how far do you stretch this? is not clear to me... I could have had much more, but I like to do things 'right'...God can see, you know...And the fact that He has been so good to me, not malefic way, I guessMalefic ways imply promoting self interests above the interests of others- from this to very bad ways of earning such as cheating.. @For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra /what would be English word, please?/ would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? you said-Bhoomi putra means "born from the earth" However, MY RY Mars is there /4th/ and my mother is/ has been in perfect 'health and spirit' as some vedics used to say- and you know my house is pretty fancy, can that be because Mars is RY? Or because other argalas like Ketu wich aspects it? Please comment on this. Can that be some other 'disaster'- f. war, for ex.?We shall talk about this when I rectify your lagna.. I didn't forget your mail:))) @You also said that 11th H gains are not 'in evolutionary way'- you mean because these are "easy gains"? Tanou Tana Danda Hara , house of punishment /11/ 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..- Zoran, Sanjay can understand your private mail, but this not that case- translation, please, elaboration as well, you obviously refer to something that I GUESS you want to share, thus implying that reference group /students and others/ should understand?Malefics in 11th are not good for honest earnings, unless they are related to benefics. Tanou Tana Danda Hara is a shloka from Jaimini, which says that 6/11th houses belong to Shiva, houses of punishment.. Birth on Ekadashi tihi (11th lunar day) is harmful and person will suffer from shad ripu or six prime sins, such as alchocol, greed, passion, desire, sex and anger.. @> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..-meaning what, for God's sake? Sorry cannot hide irritation..The point is that I do not know too:))) I think it has something to do with three, since it is stated that three malefics in 3rd cause veepreta argala. @Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence- I though I knew what Badhakesh was, but I am not sure if that's the same as Badhak-badhakes for fixed, dual, m. lagnas- and these do not remove, but create misery..Hm must something other, right?Yes it is, they can remove the good infleunce, that is the sense.. @ > Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti ? or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity- these are statements, but WHY is explanation. svotro you state about 5th, -application?- longevity is in 8th, Ok but but from argala aspect and obstruction- what would that be?Dhi Shakti is the intelligence signified by Jupiter, -wisdom and balanced and proper /evolutionary judgment. 5th house of intelligence can infleunce growth of Lagna (argala). However, malefic planet in 9th house will destroy dharma abd bhagya (destiny, fortune), and prevent the infleunce of any other planet placed in 5th house ruling children and intelligence. Also malefics in 6th house will have argala on 8th house of longevity. Any malefic in 6th house will have its ayurvedic dosha in disbalance, which will of course infleunce (counterargala) 8th house of longevity.. Saturn in eight encreases longevity- so what.. etc.. This has been worst explanation, ie not any given..Please comment if you get a chance. Saturn in eight increases longevity by his argala over lagna. However, if there is moon in 6th which is stronger than saturn, due to afflicted psyche (moon) and illness imposed by moon, saturn will be counteracted (counter argal) and longevity may not be increased... Thanks for this post, generally it has potential to be very useful for the list. Best wishes, best dearZoran, please don't cdo this, shes Anna Ok Anna, I will not:)Best wishesZoran ---- Original Message ----- "Zoran Radosavljevic" < ahimsa > < varahamihira >; <vedic astrology > Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:57 PM |Sri Varaha| ARGALA > Om Namo Narayanaya,> Dear Sanjay,> Third time writing this mail, something crashed... desparate..> another try:> Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity> 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. > 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati..> 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > Primary argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.3> caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä |> tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3||> Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house > from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for > these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third > houses respectively.> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä?> Zoran:> 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom > nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of > food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his > life.> 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our > personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and > house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and > goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires > as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.> > 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the > virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)?> Zoran:> Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the > obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence..> > 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the > obstruction to the argalä in the 4th,> Zoran:> 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each > argalä and bädhaka?> 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma > we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, > papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house.> 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the > expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. > Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc..> 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the > extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will > may add to income and success> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5> nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù |> tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4||> taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama |> tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5||> Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the > argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if > the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have > a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other > sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination > of argalä and obstruction?> Zoran:> Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number > of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala > and virodha argala> 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is > this beneficial or what is its real import?> Zoran:> Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food > and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to > mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be > there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible > damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? > Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. > Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and > ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong..> 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam > whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of > argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why?> Zoran:> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > correct..> 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the > 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial > argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of > events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä?> Zoran:> Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will > add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No > other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in > 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways..> Secondary Argalä> Paräsara: BPHS 33.6> païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt |> tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6||> The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and > this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The > nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the > planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. > the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse > (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde).> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned > for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses > are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä?> Zoran:> Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding > principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th > house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. > Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, > and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity..> > 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this > applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the > tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu?> Zoran:> I think ketu only, always vakra ghati..> 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? > Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the > virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply > reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy?> Zoran:> 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th > house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or > practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who > can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living > beings), enemies may destroy longevity> > Paräsara: BPHS 33.7> ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä |> argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7||> QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION> 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If > kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one > planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä > of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), > tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, > what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one > argalä sign or more than one argalä sign?> > Zoran:> Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine > the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu > grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the > stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs > the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue > upon your request> > > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic> Jyotisha Guru at > Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India> ahimsa > www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 OM NAMO GURUBRIHASPATHAYE Dear Gurudeva Sanjay, Please find my answers for the latest lesson. If any body reading this, who is close to Sanjay these days, please forward a copy of this for me, if he do not check emails as I may be completly wrong. Thanks. Questions for discussion 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? My understanding- Anything manifest in this conditional world, must undergo 3 conditions, creation, sustenance and destruction. Some thing will be create with the knowledge and desire or Rajas guna(Bhu Shakthi ) signify by 4th house and will be sustain with the Sri Shakthi or wealth (Satwa Guna signify by 2nd house,Laksmi) for some time, and will be destroyed or fulfilled one day with power of Neela shakthi of Shiva (Tamas Guna), or HARA signify by 11th house. Combination of this three, is essential for materialize some thing in this world and, on this basis 4th, 2nd and 11th will be the first combination for any manifestation. When we speak Jyotish, if any house with beneficial influences from said houses will be materialize in beneficial way. So 4th,2nd and 11th houses from any house will have the strength of intervention to said house. This is called ARGALA. Further on this basis, 1.Vidyesha-Dhanesha-Labesha yoga rise. 2.Maharishi Jaimini says, "Chandra Guru Shukreshu Srimanthah" (1.3.15) 3. Cancer, Libra and Pisces qualified as fruitful signs 3.Hari-Hara-Brahma Yoga occurs. 2. Why does Paräsara use the word ‘bädhaka’ to explain the nature of the virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each argalä and bädhaka? Before go to above question, I like to draw your attention on one important teaching of Maharishi. He had explained to fulfill our self first ( Palana Devata), and to finish our karma by "work without expecting any fruits" or become Karma yogi (Darma devata). Then you can reach your goal (Ishta Devata). This concept bring me the idea of " The true goal of human life is realize the self and go back ". The term BADAKA is not mere obstacles, but obstacles for this true goal of human form of life. I like to answer this question under this basis. Brahma advice Deva(Satvaik-Vidya or 4th house) to control the passion, as it is the obstacle to the said goal. Passion signify by 7th and 7th become Badaka for Deva, Satvika or UBAYA RASI. 4th house Argala will be obstacle by 7th from 4th; ie 10th house. Real Suka is pay off Karma and finish it. According to this basis, for Ubaya rasi, 7th become Badaka and Argala of 4th house will be obstructed by 7th from 4th, 10th. Naturally, Manushya like to accumulate wealth (Sri) and full of Rajas Guna.Brahma advice Manushya, to dana, give away, and control it. Accumulated energy or 2nd house will be obstacle by 12th DHANA, give away. One who will have obstruction to According to this argument, 12th (give away) will obstruct to 2nd (Accumulate). 12th is 11th from 2nd for Rajas (manushya) . According to this, for chara rasi 11th become Badaka place. 11thouse is hara, or end of any action, and qualified as Rudra, and guna is Tamas. Brahma advice to Raksha to control the anger, destructive power. Control or stick to dharma he must go to 9th house. Hence the owner of 11th house of natural zodiac Rahu is looking towards 3rd house, which is 9th from him. According to this, 9th house become Badaka to Stira Rasi. According to my understanding, Argala theory based on natural rules of material excistance, and Virodargala based on Badaka rules. Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). Questions for discussion 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination of argalä and obstruction? When we look at Argala, in fact we are looking at the strengh of Rasi. For example we must consider any aspects to concerned Rasi. Perhaps, some other strength like Day signs in Drishyarda or night signs in adrisyarda may have to be considered. Never gone to that deep. 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is this beneficial or what is its real import? Yes. But it cause Papa Argala. This can destruct the power of concerned sign. For example, 2nd is the house with the energy for sustain for any house. How ever, if there is a malefic planet in 2nd it will destroy the Sri Shakthi of 2nd. Final results will be, the action (or what ever) would not sustain due to lack of Sri,and become Maraka for concerned sign. Secondly, it will still give the energy and sustain the matter, but negative way. 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 ‘vyädhikäù’ is the word used by Santanam whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? I stuck here. Must learn Sanskrit. I am very poor with other languages. Please be kind enough when you read this mal too. 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? It is some thing like Viparita results. The nature of skills, Parakrama or weapons one use for rise indicate by 3rd. Since we are speaking about the gains or 11th house argala, we have to consider the nature as Hara, or final results. When the 3rd is occupied by malefic, it cause rise of Parakrama and gives enough tools or skill to go against barriers. This help to rise of 1st house instead fall. How ever, since 11th is Tamas or Raksha benefic in 3rd would not help to rise martially, instead make it fall. Also, 3rd may have protective nature for 11th as it is 9th from 11th, in reverse. Normally, for fixed signs 9th become badaka, but badaka can bring fortune to fixed sign born. Secondary Argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The nodes ‘tamo-graha’ also have the argalä and obstruction of the planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). Questions for discussion 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? Two arguments disturbing to mind. 1 If the 7th house signify re-birth, why we cannot consider the 7th house as the house for re-creation ? If so, 8th house and 5th house comes to 2nd and 11th from 7th. Then why 10th (4th from 7th) left out ? 2. Naturaly 7th house indicate desire and karaka for 7th is Venus. Guna is Rajas and it create again and again. So, 7th house has the Bhu shakthi and have Argala on 1st. Secondly, with the above point, if we find any other house gives argala to 4th, 2nd and 11th houses same time it would be only 5th house. 5th house has Dana argala on th (Suka Argala), Suka argala on 2nd (Dhana Argala) and 7th house argala on 11th (Laba Argala). So 5th house will have power of intervence to primery argala houses. Since it is a fixed sign of natural zodiac, Bada comes from 9th in reverse derection. This could be the reasons to take Bada in reverse derections for Thamo Graha. But definetly, argala and viridargala must check in forward derection other than Ketu. Fixed signs shows some few things I have not understood. Other than 5th, it is only 8th house has the ability to intervence 2nd house and 11th house primarery argala inderectly. There is not any other house can intervense to at least 2 signs from 4th, 2nd, 11th. So 8th has indirect argala in first. How ever, I am in little difficult to find the virodagala rason from 6th for 8th according to this argument. Another thing, is this rules give the clue to understand Manduka Gati ? For example 11th harta, and count to 9th, comes to 3rd. Lagna is hara for 3rd and count again 9 in reverse, comes to 5th and so on !!! Creation, sustanance, destruction (accumilate Sri and ) creation again !!!!!! 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the tamo-graha – Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? As explained, Thamo is Rudra, or Hara according to my understanding. We have no option other than look in reverse for ninth if we follow the advice of Brahma. You have explained, only nodes are the real rudra. Ketu destruct body and mind and Rahu has the ability to keep us as individual. Ketu can win one day and I dont think Rahu's influences can be reckoned in reverse. 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Explained above. Does the virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? I like to study this in more details. After I will write, for other questions as well. All who reading this, please share your understanding, with us. I have forwardwd my understanding here, which up to my level and need not to be correct. Perhaps I may be wrong. Lagna lord is in 12th in D10. But I have to know about the path I am going, as I do not want to teach wrong things to my students. Awaiting for your's rectifications Your Sishya Karu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 NamasShivaaya! Dear Zoran ji/Anna, wonderful explanation of Argala in simple, understandable terms... Many Thanks. > @> Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is > > correct..-meaning what, for God's sake? Sorry cannot hide irritation.. > The point is that I do not know too:))) I think it has something to do with three, since it is stated that three malefics in 3rd cause veepreta argala. > From what gurudev explained in the workshop, Tryadhika (Tri - three, Adhika - more) means " More than Three " . But the final answer was " Even if *one* Malefic is there in thirdhouse, provided the third house is stronger than 11th (in terms of number of planets in both houses), VipareethArgala functions " . Other attendees and Gurus please correct me, if i understood it wrong. Best Regards, -Suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Visti, The article on argala was very informative. It was very logically explained. In the Bill Gates chart you showed that the argala of Me and Ma on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL (AUM) led to his immense wealth. I checked another chart where Su and Mo has argala on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL. This person is above average as far as finances are concerned but does not have immense wealth. Is the wealth to be considered by taking in all principles together (Jamini, Argala, etc) and also based on planets. Regards, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Guruji,If for Dasamsa is difficult then with Navamsa its also. Therefore we are lost ;)RegardsRafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Mike, Namaskar. The Argala on second from lagna, ak and arudha lagna shows your ability to 1) take, 2) shape and 3) want the money in your life, whilst the planets involved and their yogas are showing how its being done. This is greatly important as despite there being lots of money available, you may not have the opportunity to 'take' it without argala helping you. That way one can be born in a rich family, but not enjoy any of its inheritance if argala is not helping you. Yet, the extent of money we cannot leave solely to the Rasi chart - we have no way to justify that - logically and also scripture wise. Obviously the divisional charts should be seen, but here i'm not referring to the vaisheshikamsas only, but also to the lagna and hora lagna in the divisions, which Parasara has also mentioned clearly. Vaisheshikamsas can show alot of money available, but it may not be yours. Here we would analyse Mars and Mercury's vaisheshikamsas. If these also associate strongly with HL and Lagna in the Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa it can promise great wealth to you personally... especially in Navamsa. Dasamsa is also to be seen to see the extent of fruits from ones karma yoga, but then we need to start discussing the sunrise times accuracy for such work. So it all boils down to those special lagnas, as they really show YOU in all activities. But without argala you may have no clear idea about the availability of any resource in this world. Therefore Argala acts as a key to the chart. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com mikefranc01 skrev: Visti, The article on argala was very informative. It was very logically explained. In the Bill Gates chart you showed that the argala of Me and Ma on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL (AUM) led to his immense wealth. I checked another chart where Su and Mo has argala on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL. This person is above average as far as finances are concerned but does not have immense wealth. Is the wealth to be considered by taking in all principles together (Jamini, Argala, etc) and also based on planets. Regards, Mike -------------------QS: Nowe oblicze sportu. Biznes - Sport - LifestylePierwszy magazyn biznesowy o sporcie! Ju¿ dostêpny w salonach prasowych.Sprawd¼: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://player.vod4net.com/1792/MKRTJN&sid=346 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 hare rama krsnaDear Guruji, NamaskarWhen I ve checked this L/Ak/AL rule, Ive met with many problems hard to explain.If we move from dhana to raja. Sanjayji has only Su and Ve argala on AK, they are not forming some big rajayoga due to weak avastha of Venus [vry], whilst the Surya dispositor is in twelfth bhava - sannyasa/opposite to rajayoga. But his influence/fame is recognizable - how we can understand this point? RegardsRafal GendarzElementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. No, it doesn't mean we are lost, it means we should start setting demands for good software or better availability of knowledge and calculations. Has anyone asked for Lahiri's book of sunrise and sunset times and how to calculate it? This along with the Ayanamsa calculations were found and established by a commitee and yet instead people are inventing their own ideas about sunrise and sunset calculations. Its a small book costing about 15 rs. I hope someone works on those calculations given and compares them to actual sunrise events. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, If for Dasamsa is difficult then with Navamsa its also. Therefore we are lost Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Mike, Namaskar. The Argala on second from lagna, ak and arudha lagna shows your ability to 1) take, 2) shape and 3) want the money in your life, whilst the planets involved and their yogas are showing how its being done. This is greatly important as despite there being lots of money available, you may not have the opportunity to 'take' it without argala helping you. That way one can be born in a rich family, but not enjoy any of its inheritance if argala is not helping you. Yet, the extent of money we cannot leave solely to the Rasi chart - we have no way to justify that - logically and also scripture wise. Obviously the divisional charts should be seen, but here i'm not referring to the vaisheshikamsas only, but also to the lagna and hora lagna in the divisions, which Parasara has also mentioned clearly. Vaisheshikamsas can show alot of money available, but it may not be yours. Here we would analyse Mars and Mercury's vaisheshikamsas. If these also associate strongly with HL and Lagna in the Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa it can promise great wealth to you personally... especially in Navamsa. Dasamsa is also to be seen to see the extent of fruits from ones karma yoga, but then we need to start discussing the sunrise times accuracy for such work. So it all boils down to those special lagnas, as they really show YOU in all activities. But without argala you may have no clear idea about the availability of any resource in this world. Therefore Argala acts as a key to the chart. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com mikefranc01 skrev: Visti, The article on argala was very informative. It was very logically explained. In the Bill Gates chart you showed that the argala of Me and Ma on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL (AUM) led to his immense wealth. I checked another chart where Su and Mo has argala on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL. This person is above average as far as finances are concerned but does not have immense wealth. Is the wealth to be considered by taking in all principles together (Jamini, Argala, etc) and also based on planets. Regards, Mike ------------------- QS: Nowe oblicze sportu. Biznes - Sport - Lifestyle Pierwszy magazyn biznesowy o sporcie! Ju¿ dostêpny w salonach prasowych. Sprawd¼: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://player.vod4net.com/1792/MKRTJN & sid=346 -------------------Wakacje tak jak lubisz. Egipt od 810 z³, Grecja od 759 z³, Turcjaod 590 z³. Ofert szukaj na http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://wycieczki.wp.pl&sid=347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 hare rama krsnaDear Guruji,I knew it. The sloka is for yuti 6L with 8L.I checked from AK - if we take Guru (due to replacement) then its also Shani who is giving argala - also no major yoga (effect of Ketu on Lg). The case is that rajayoga must influence AK, AL and Lg. From Rajayoga perspective only weak VRY exists for the AK argala.If we take LG - also Ve+Su and Sa.If we take AL - also Sa, Ve+Su, and Guru gives head of institution, whilst it drsti on Ma gives dharmakarmadhipati, similar for Mo and Me it gives Sharada and Jnana, Shiva yoga. BUT these doesnt influence the vital points, still Sanjayji directly wants, takes and shapes their effects/energies. Therefore I said this technique meets with many problems or (2) we have to change the results or (3) its my fantasy that Sanjyayji have the consequence/impact of these Mo and Me, Simhasana and Ju and Ma yogas on AL and L.RegardsRafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In Chandra Kala Nadi, that particular yoga of Venus and Sun for Pisces Lagna will make one teach a Vedanga in a foreign language abroad. So congratulations - even though you didn't know it, you had found his main yoga in the chart. Though, for rajayoga the AL and AK are more important for the lagna. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: hare rama krsna Dear Guruji, Namaskar When I ve checked this L/Ak/AL rule, Ive met with many problems hard to explain. If we move from dhana to raja. Sanjayji has only Su and Ve argala on AK, they are not forming some big rajayoga due to weak avastha of Venus [vry], whilst the Surya dispositor is in twelfth bhava - sannyasa/opposite to rajayoga. But his influence/fame is recognizable - how we can understand this point? Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. No, it doesn't mean we are lost, it means we should start setting demands for good software or better availability of knowledge and calculations. Has anyone asked for Lahiri's book of sunrise and sunset times and how to calculate it? This along with the Ayanamsa calculations were found and established by a commitee and yet instead people are inventing their own ideas about sunrise and sunset calculations. Its a small book costing about 15 rs. I hope someone works on those calculations given and compares them to actual sunrise events. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, If for Dasamsa is difficult then with Navamsa its also. Therefore we are lost Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Mike, Namaskar. The Argala on second from lagna, ak and arudha lagna shows your ability to 1) take, 2) shape and 3) want the money in your life, whilst the planets involved and their yogas are showing how its being done. This is greatly important as despite there being lots of money available, you may not have the opportunity to 'take' it without argala helping you. That way one can be born in a rich family, but not enjoy any of its inheritance if argala is not helping you. Yet, the extent of money we cannot leave solely to the Rasi chart - we have no way to justify that - logically and also scripture wise. Obviously the divisional charts should be seen, but here i'm not referring to the vaisheshikamsas only, but also to the lagna and hora lagna in the divisions, which Parasara has also mentioned clearly. Vaisheshikamsas can show alot of money available, but it may not be yours. Here we would analyse Mars and Mercury's vaisheshikamsas. If these also associate strongly with HL and Lagna in the Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa it can promise great wealth to you personally... especially in Navamsa. Dasamsa is also to be seen to see the extent of fruits from ones karma yoga, but then we need to start discussing the sunrise times accuracy for such work. So it all boils down to those special lagnas, as they really show YOU in all activities. But without argala you may have no clear idea about the availability of any resource in this world. Therefore Argala acts as a key to the chart. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com mikefranc01 skrev: Visti, The article on argala was very informative. It was very logically explained. In the Bill Gates chart you showed that the argala of Me and Ma on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL (AUM) led to his immense wealth. I checked another chart where Su and Mo has argala on the second house from Lagna/Atmakaraka/AL. This person is above average as far as finances are concerned but does not have immense wealth. Is the wealth to be considered by taking in all principles together (Jamini, Argala, etc) and also based on planets. Regards, Mike ------------------- QS: Nowe oblicze sportu. Biznes - Sport - Lifestyle Pierwszy magazyn biznesowy o sporcie! Ju¿ dostêpny w salonach prasowych. Sprawd¼: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://player.vod4net.com/1792/MKRTJN & sid=346 ------------------- Wakacje tak jak lubisz. Egipt od 810 z³, Grecja od 759 z³, Turcja od 590 z³. Ofert szukaj na http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://wycieczki.wp.pl & sid=347 -------------------QS: Nowe oblicze sportu. Biznes - Sport - LifestylePierwszy magazyn biznesowy o sporcie! Ju¿ dostêpny w salonach prasowych.Sprawd¼: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://player.vod4net.com/1792/MKRTJN&sid=346 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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