Practical Demonstration of Multiple Dasas (for Shyamasundara) (fwd)

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Dear Narasimha Rao,

 

Please accept my best wishes. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Bhakta-vigna-vinasha Nrsimhadeva Bhagavan ki jaya.

 

Thank you very much for taking so much trouble to answer my sincere query.

 

> Jaya Jaya Jagannatha

> Namaste Shyamasundara Prabhu,

>

> Thank you for your mail and the challenge therein. I must clarify that I

> am not an expert in using multiple dasas. I am a student who is still

> trying to learn. But, even as my knowledge is incomplete, I passionately

> share my limited knowledge with fellow students. My understanding of the

> fascinating subject of Jyotish is still evolving.

 

Thank you for you humble clarification it is appreciated.

 

>

> Nevertheless I will try to demonstrate the use of multiple dasas as you

> asked. I hope I can satisfy you and other scholars on the lists.

 

My request was sincere, so I am glad that you have made this attempt.

 

 

>

> > As you can see I am only now getting a chance to comment on

> > something you

> > wrote almost 2 weeks ago. On December 8th you wrote:

>

> I too have many things to do, but I free up time when something comes up

> that can potentially benefit tens or hundreds of people as opposed to

> just

> one or two.

>

> > This sounds very intriguing and could lead to some very interesting

> > areas

> > of

> > research. May I ask some questions?

> >

> > 1) Is there any sastra pramana to corroborate this theory? Or, is

> > this

> > theory extrapolated from general principles? (I have no problem with

> > the

> > later as long as they don't conflict with accepted axioms.)

>

> The latter. And, I don't think there is a conflict.

>

> > 2) Satyacarya has stated that the Nakshatra hosting the Lagna should

> > be

> > taken as Janma Nakshatra for Udu Dasa if the Lagna is stronger than

> > Candra.

> > What happens to this theory if Satyacarya's principle where to be

> > followed?

>

> Vimsottari dasa, whether started from Moon or lagna, is based on

> *nakshatras*. Rasi dasas are based on *rasis*. Kalachakra dasa is based

> on

> *navamsas*. Rasis, nakshatras and navamsas are three totally different

> divisions of the zodiac. The nature of a dasa depends on which division

> of

> the zodiac it is rooted in! THAT is my point. I may not have been

careful

> with the wording.

>

> Rasi division is ruled by Sun and nakshatra division is ruled by Moon.

>

> > 3) I mean, it sounds nice but how does it work? What is the

> > difference between

> > the " mind " and the " inner spirit of the mind? " What is the practical

> > use of

> > it? It is starting to sound a bit too " new-age " for me. So please

> > destroy

> > my

> > doubts in this matter and show me how I can use this to be a better

> > astrologer. Which leads to...

>

> I can only try.

>

> Suppose a political leader becomes the Prime Minister of a country.

> Suppose he is enjoying great power. Then that is what his relevant rasi

> dasas are expected to show. Narayana dasas show the effort one puts in

> and

> the situations one faces, in various areas of life. Sudasa ruled by

> Lakshmi shows the prosperity and well-being experienced by oneself in

> various areas of life.

>

> Rasis are ruled by Sun, while Nakshatras are ruled by Moon. So

nakshatras

> show the planetary factors functioning at the mental level. The PM in

the

> above example may be *feeling* very powerful and that is what his

> Vimsottari dasa will show then. Of course, *often* there is a direct

> correspondence between the situations faced by one and what one feels.

>

> This PM may beget power due to a good rasi dasa and feel powerful due to

> a

> good Vimsottari dasa, but, if he has an unfavorable Kalachakra dasa, he

> may still feel a void. For example, if he had to break his ideology to

> win

> power or if he felt as if he missed something, he will not be

comfortable

> deep inside, depite feeling powerful and enjoying the trappings of

power.

> Navamsa shows the pursuit of dharma and the sense of connectedness. As

> KCD

> is rooted in navamsa, the best things to see in it are the motivation

one

> has and the sense of connectedness one experiences.

>

 

Comment: In this regard I have seen several charts where in A-10 the

concerned Dasa planet was not so well situated. The person was prospering

well, making tons of money, and had a lot of status, but they felt unhappy

and had that void you spoke of above.

 

 

 

 

 

> I think my comments on the example you gave will make this clearer. So

> just read on.

>

> > 4) Please give us a practical example of it in action using the

> > following

> > birth details:

> >

> > Male, born Oct 14, 1953 @ 18:27 CST in Washington Missouri (MO)

> > 91w01,

> > 38n33,

> >

> > Lagna Mesha 21:46

> > Ravi Kanya 28:11

> > Candra Dhanus 17:22

> > Kuja Simha 25:51

> > Buddha Tula 20:58

> > Guru Mithuna 03:18

> > Sukra Kanya 02:21

> > Sani Tula 05:54

> > Rahu Makara 06:03

> > Ketu Kataka 06:03

> >

> > I am particularly interested in the period from September 26, 1983

> > to

> > present but with special interest in 1986-92. Based on your

> > statements

> > above

> > can you write a few paragraphs describing his life from the vantage

> > point

> > of

> > his mind, changing situations faced by the physical self, and

> > inner

> > spirit

> > of one's mind? How would these be different?

>

> > You have specified that Drig Dasa is for timing religious and

> > spiritual

> > life. Can you give us a practical example based on the same chart

> > above.

> >

> > Also, what are the other Dasas that have special uses and what are

> > those

> > uses? I beg to remain...

>

> I will now try to make some comments on what may have happened to this

> native in the last 2 decades, based on multiple dasas. It should be

borne

> in mind that (1) I am not infallible and my understanding is still

> evolving, and,

 

Agreed. As far as I know no one has claimed to be infallible in these

matters.

 

 

(2) I haven't done any birthtime rectification as you

> haven't given any life events. I am going to ASSUME that the birth time

is

> accurate. If what I write makes no sense, please give me some life

events

> and I will try to rectify the birth time.

>

 

I can understand your dilemma but if I had given some life events it may

have tinged your reading. The birth time was reported to me as being

according to the birth certificate from hospital records. I should have

also

stipulated that it was not my chart as it seems that you may have thought

at

the back of your mind that it was my chart. Other comments I have seen on

your text seem to indicate that some also think it is my chart. But I can

assure you that it is not my chart as you will soon see.

 

One point, before we go on, regarding birth certificate times and the need

for rectification. I recently spoke to a long-lost God Brother of mine who

is a physician in Oklahoma, he specializes in Obstetrics. Knowing that he

was an obstetrician who has been involved in the delivery of hundreds of

babies I could not hold back from asking him about how birth times are

recorded. I had heard all kinds of stories of sloppy record keeping and

expected him to substantiate those reports. Instead what he told me was

quite the opposite. He said that standard operating procedure (he has

practiced medicine in Asia, Europe and USA) in any operating room was that

one nurse was assigned with the duty of recording the time when various

medical procedures were performed. For example they record when the patient

is brought in, when an injection is given, when the first cut is made etc.

A

whole time line is maintained for the medical records. This time line would

also include when the baby was delivered. I asked him how accurate was the

recording of time? He said that it had a confidence level of +2 minutes

(not

-2 minutes, only +), because they don't record things before they happen

only while it is happening. Of course this doesn't mean that all birth

times

of all people born in all hospitals are recorded so accurately but it was a

relief to know that actual attempts are made to be accurate. Still I know

that even 2 minutes can make a big difference.

 

 

> I will not go deep in any dasa, as the purpose here is to demonstrate

how

> multiple dasas can give insights on various aspects of one's life in

> their

> own way.

>

> First, a comment based on the natal chart: This native has 5 planets are

> in Prakaasana avastha (bright and glowing state) and two kendra lords in

> Gopuramsa. The native must be a blessed soul. Nearly exact aspect of 3rd

> lord Mercury on lagna suggests an eloquent scholar. Lagna being in Aries

> and Mars being in fiery signs in many vargas suggests an aggressive and

> enterprising person with ego and fire.

 

This person is a Black man let us call him " GBF " , he is married to a black

woman and has one child, a girl who just recently graduated from college

with high marks in journalism. He is quite intelligent, learned and

scholarly, he studied in Jesuit schools. Quite eloquent as you describe and

a good singer as well. Being quite religious and intelligent he took to

the

path of Bhakti Yoga. He is quite fiery. I had good friendship with him but

others, mostly traditional Southerners had a hard time with this well

educated black man leading to some confrontations which lead to his

downfall

later. More at the end.

 

>

> (1) Narayana dasa of rasi chart:

>

> Li: 1953-10-14 (18:27:00) - 1963-10-15 (08:04:54)

> Sc: 1963-10-15 (08:04:54) - 1972-10-14 (15:25:53)

> Sg: 1972-10-14 (15:25:53) - 1978-10-15 (04:15:01)

> Cp: 1978-10-15 (04:15:01) - 1982-10-15 (04:57:22)

> Aq: 1982-10-15 (04:57:22) - 1987-10-15 (11:47:09)

> Pi: 1987-10-15 (11:47:09) - 1996-10-14 (19:05:30)

> Ar: 1996-10-14 (19:05:30) - 2000-10-14 (19:45:59)

> Ta: 2000-10-14 (19:45:59) - 2003-10-15 (14:10:26)

>

> As dasas started from the 7th house, the 7th from dasa rasi should be

> taken as lagna during a dasa.

>

> In Cp dasa (78-82), lagna is Cn. Lagna has spiritual Ketu in a watery

> sign. The native may have led a spiritual lifestyle. Lagna lord Moon is

> in

> Sg (9th of natural zodiac), aspected by Jupiter, and that strengthens

the

> indications for a religious and dharmik lifestyle. The 9th lord Jupiter

> is

> in 12th. That also indicates religious activities and a possible stay in

> a

> hermitage. Of course, 9th lord in 12th can also give foreign stay.

>

> In Aq dasa (82-87), Le becomes lagna. Lagna has yogakaraka Mars in a

> fiery

> sign. So the native may have been very aggressive, bold and enterprising

> during this dasa. In ashtakavarga cast with Leo as lagna, Ge has the

> highest score (35) and Jupiter has 7. So some gains and friendships

> (11th)

> related to higher knowledge (Jupiter) are suggested. Mercury in 3rd

shows

> some creative Mercurian work like writing or journalism.

>

> In Pi dasa (87-96), Vi becomes lagna. From Vi, the 10th house of

> profession has Jupiter. This suggests teaching or astrology or some

other

> noble work. Lagna and 10th lord Mercury has raja yoga with 5th lord in

> 2nd. This strongly suggests very good progress as an astrologer. As the

> natal chart also shows promise as an astrologer, probably the native is

> an

> astrologer. If he indeed is an astrologer, he may have made a lot of

> progress in Pi dasa. Exaltation of 6th lord, his affliction of lagna

lord

> and placement of 12th lord in lagna suggests some health problems,

> especially vaata related. Viparita raja yoga by Mars in 12th shows

> excellent success after some hard work. The enterprise shown in previous

> dasa may have paid off. Ketu in 11th shows making gains from things

> related to spirituality or foreign sources. Debilitation of 9th lord

> Venus

> in lagna may shows falling apart with guru or a passionate guru-like

> figure.

>

> (2) Moola dasa:

>

> Sun: 1953-10-14 (18:27:00) - 1958-10-15 (01:13:12)

> Ven: 1958-10-15 (01:13:12) - 1978-10-15 (04:15:01)

> Moo: 1978-10-15 (04:15:01) - 1983-10-15 (11:06:54)

> Jup: 1983-10-15 (11:06:54) - 1993-10-15 (00:31:32)

> Sat: 1993-10-15 (00:31:32) - 2007-10-15 (14:44:42)

>

> While Narayana dasa shows the changing environment and the efforts put

in

> by the native, Moola dasa taught by Varahamihira and Kalyana Verma shows

> the *root cause* (moola = root) of what happens in one's life. It shows

> how actions of the past life bring events of this life.

>

> Let us take Jupiter dasa during 1983-1993. Jupiter is the 9th and 12th

> lord and shows religious activities. He is in the 3rd house in

> intellectual Gemini, showing intellectual communications. He is exalted

> in

> 9th in D-10 (chart of activities in society), showing dharmik

activities.

> He is in 10th in D-24 (chart of knowledge), showing a prominent role in

> society (10th) in the field of knowledge (D-24).

>

> More than all, we should look at D-60 when judging Moola dasa, as D-60

> shows past life. IF this D-60 is correct, lagna is in Sc and Jupiter is

> in

> 2nd in moolatrikona with debilitated Rahu. Jupiter in 2nd in Sg strongly

> suggests an astrologer. The native was probably an astrologer in past

> life. Knowledge of one life will easily come in the next. If this D-60

is

> correct, knowledge of astrology (or other fine traditional subjects)

> should have come easily Jupiter's Moola dasa.

>

> Jupiter, though strong, has Guru-Chandala yoga in D-60 and the native

may

> have fallen off with his guru in past life or otherwise displeased guru.

> So it has to be paid back in Jupiter's Moola dasa in this life. It can

> happen in many ways. For example, the native may have faced a great

> difficulty in finding his guru or gone through troubles to please his

> guru

> (in this life).

>

> In D-60, Jupiter in Sg is in 12th from AL, showing noble expenditure in

> past life. So Jupiter's Moola dasa in this life (83-93) should be good

> for

> finances. Finances may have come easily for any noble tasks taken up by

> the native (as a payback for what he did in past life).

>

> The previous Moon dasa (1978-1983) may have shown him his dharma. In

> D-60,

> Moon is 9th lord in 12th, suggesting spirituality. It is said that the

> dharma followed by one saves one ( " dharmo rakshati rakshitah " ). Planets

> showing the dharma followed in past life will, in this life, show the

> right direction to one and put one on the right track. They make one

> fortunate. So the native may have found his/her direction in life during

> 1978-1983.

>

> Note: I have gone overboard with readings from D-60 and these can easily

> be wrong, if lagna changes by a little. Even if this is wrong, this can

> serve as an example.

>

> Rasi and other divisional charts play a key role in deciding the results

> given by planets. But D-60 is the final decider. Moola dasa is brilliant

> there.

>

> (3) Tribhagi Vimsottari dasa:

>

> Ven: 1951-10-27 (02:15:23) - 1958-05-23 (02:15:23)

> Sun: 1958-05-23 (02:15:23) - 1960-05-12 (02:15:23)

> Moo: 1960-05-12 (02:15:23) - 1963-08-25 (02:15:23)

> Mar: 1963-08-25 (02:15:23) - 1965-12-12 (02:15:23)

> Rah: 1965-12-12 (02:15:23) - 1971-11-11 (02:15:23)

> Jup: 1971-11-11 (02:15:23) - 1977-02-12 (02:15:23)

> Sat: 1977-02-12 (02:15:23) - 1983-05-12 (02:15:23)

> Mer: 1983-05-12 (02:15:23) - 1988-12-11 (02:15:23)

> Ket: 1988-12-11 (02:15:23) - 1991-03-31 (02:15:23)

> Ven: 1991-03-31 (02:15:23) - 1997-10-25 (02:15:23)

> Sun: 1997-10-25 (02:15:23) - 1999-10-15 (02:15:23)

>

> Tribhagi Vimsottari dasa shows the progression of janma nakshatra in

> one's

> life, just as Narayana dasa shows the progression of lagna in one's

life.

>

> Let me just take second Venus dasa during 1991-1997 as an example. This

> is

> really Bharani nakshatra's dasa. Taking Bharani as the progressed janma

> nakshatra, karma nakshatra (10th star - professional activities) is

> Poorva

> Phalguni. It is a raajasik nakshatra. It is occupied by Mars, lord of

> kshema tara (from Bharani). So the native is likely perform activities

in

> society with passion and enterprise. This dasa may have infused a dose

of

> energy, passion and enterprise in his activities. Janma tara in Bharani

> shows some attraction to wealth and luxury.

>

> In the next dasa of Sun (Krittika) during 1997-1999, parama mitra tara

> lord Venus in karma nakshatra (Uttara Phalguni) shows passion and savvy

> exhibited in professional activities. Rahu in Uttarashadha (aadhaana

> nakshatra - 19th) suggests anxiety and discomfort despite professional

> success.

>

> During Mars dasa (2003-2005), Mrigasira becomes janma nakshatra and

karma

> nakshatra Chitra has Sun and Saturn. The native may get involved in some

> political wrangling then.

>

> We can give many readings like this, but the best results are obtained

by

> taking transits in nakshatras into consideration.

>

> (4) Vimsottari dasa:

>

> Ven: 1947-11-19 (17:52:11) - 1967-08-06 (17:52:11)

> Sun: 1967-08-06 (17:52:11) - 1973-07-05 (17:52:11)

> Moo: 1973-07-05 (17:52:11) - 1983-05-14 (17:52:11)

> Mar: 1983-05-14 (17:52:11) - 1990-04-07 (17:52:11)

> Rah: 1990-04-07 (17:52:11) - 2008-01-03 (17:52:11)

>

 

I notice you use 360/yr instead of 365/yr. You may be interested in

 

http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/what_is_jyotish/how_long_year/how_long_year

 

_1.htm

 

 

 

 

> Let us take Rahu dasa during 1990-2008. A planet in Prakasana avastha

> (bright/glowing state) in 10th house in rasi chart brings light to one's

> activities in society. Especially, the results for Rahu in Prakasana

> avastha include prosperity in foreign places or prosperity through

> unusual

> things, wealth, virtuous acts and eminence in a king's court. During

Rahu

> dasa, the native may have been involved in electronics, religion or

> occult

> subjects and earned eminence, recognition from authorities and wealth.

> Sun

> is an important reference when judging career and Rahu is in 5th from

> him.

> This also supports some eminence. In D-10, Rahu owns Ravi lagna and

> occupies 9th. This shows activities of religion.

>

> We said that Vimsottari dasa shows events in life from the mind's

> perspective. What do we mean by eminence and religious activities etc?

>

> Well, basically the native is likely *feel* the way we described above.

> He

> feels as though he is prospering and gaining eminence and recognition.

If

> he feels that way, it is probably true to some extent atleast. In that

> sense, Vimsottari dasa shows what happens in one's life.

>

> In D-24, Rahu is 2nd lord and occupies 11th from lagna, showing gains in

> knowledge. With the sign containing him (Sc) being the 8th rasi of

> natural

> zodiac, the native gains in occult and hidden knowledge. Being in arudha

> lagna, he gives status as a learned man. Of course, this being

Vimsottari

> dasa, the correct way of saying it is that the native *feels* that he is

> gaining in occult/hidden knowledge and becoming known as a learned man.

>

> His feelings aside, his true knowledge and reputation is seen in

Narayana

> dasa of D-24.

>

> (5) Narayana dasa of D-24:

>

> Li: 1953-10-14 (18:27:00) - 1963-10-15 (08:04:54)

> Sc: 1963-10-15 (08:04:54) - 1968-10-14 (14:52:56)

> Sg: 1968-10-14 (14:52:56) - 1978-10-15 (04:15:01)

> Cp: 1978-10-15 (04:15:01) - 1979-10-15 (10:30:38)

> Aq: 1979-10-15 (10:30:38) - 1982-10-15 (04:57:22)

> Pi: 1982-10-15 (04:57:22) - 1987-10-15 (11:47:09)

> Ar: 1987-10-15 (11:47:09) - 1999-10-15 (13:30:28)

> Ta: 1999-10-15 (13:30:28) - 2002-10-15 (07:53:07)

>

> Narayana dasa of D-24 shows the evolution of one's learning.

>

> The 2nd, 5th and 8th houses are important for astrological knowledge.

> Jupiter and Mercury are natural significators. Aq is the 2nd house and

it

> is aspected by Jupiter. Mercury is the 9th lord and represents teacher

in

> this D-24. His association with Saturn and strong argala on Aq shows a

> strong influence by a guru in one's learning. So the native may have

made

> excellent progress in astrology in 1979-1982 and learned directly from a

> Mercurian guru. Aries dasa during 1987-1999 shows some technical

> learning.

> Aries has Mars and it is the 6th from AL (arudha lagna)! Strong malefics

> in 3rd and 6th from AL show victory and increase of status. So Ar dasa

> must've brought a lot of reputation and status to the native as a

learned

> person.

>

> (6) Kalachakra dasa:

>

> Sg: 1945-02-06 (08:35:19) - 1954-12-16 (08:35:19)

> Ar: 1954-12-16 (08:35:19) - 1961-11-09 (08:35:19)

> Ta: 1961-11-09 (08:35:19) - 1977-08-17 (08:35:19)

> Ge: 1977-08-17 (08:35:19) - 1986-07-01 (08:35:19)

> Cn: 1986-07-01 (08:35:19) - 2007-03-13 (08:35:19)

>

> Let us take Cn dasa as an example (1986-2007). Cn is the 9th house of

> duty

> (dharma) in D-10 (chart of activities) and the 10th house of activities

> in

> D-9 (chart of dharma). It has exalted Jupiter in D-10. In D-9

> ashtakavarga, it has 35 rekhas and very strong. So Cn dasa is likely to

> make the native discharge duties in society and play a prominent role in

> the establishment of dharma in society. The native must be very dharmik

> during 1986-2007.

>

> Based on Vimsottari dasa and Tribhagi Vimsottari dasa, we saw that the

> native may be attracted to wealth in this period and pursue raajasik

> ways.

> We saw that he/she may be enterprising, passionate and exhibit some

savvy

> in professional activities. However, what Kalachakra dasa of Cn shows is

> that there is a dharmik motivation and a deep sense of duty behind the

> native's activities in society during this period! Raajasik passion to

> succeed and to make money lives alongside a sattwik sense of dharma. The

> two are two totally different things. One comes from nakshatras and the

> other from navamsas.

>

> I hope the distinction between what exactly Vimsottari dasa and

> Kalachakra

> dasa can show, based on being rooted in nakshatra and navamsa

> respectively, is somewhat clear now.

>

> > Shyamasundara Dasa

> >

> > PS Please forward to .

>

> I forwarded yesterday itself. Please forward my mail to your group(s).

>

> BTW, I haven't written such long mails in a while. I hope there were

some

> list members who benefited from this analysis and the subtle points in

> it!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

 

I had thought of commenting on each of the dasha elaborations you made but

decided finally to just give all the life details that I know about him in

one place and you can go back and see where it may or may not apply.

 

Though GBF was interested in Bhakti-yoga in the mid-70s in St Louis, MO it

was not until after 1977 then that he surrendered and took panca samskara

diksa. He then moved to Dallas, TX. He was staying in an asrama with his

family (wife and daughter). He visited India between 80-82, which is when I

met him.

 

While in the ashrama he had two engagements. He was the head-pujari and he

was also a teacher (Mars in 5th). It was this later role that got him in

serious trouble. From early 80's to mid-80's he did this service. Then he

resigned. He publicly admitted that he had done some things with the young

boys that were against dharma. He had fondled them in a sexual way. He then

disappeared from sight. In the 1986-7 three of his former students filed

extremely serious criminal charges of sexual assault and rape against him.

I

found out about this in 1987 and was simply stunned to hear about it. He

was

underground from about 1986-89 and was finally apprehended by the FBI in

1989. I visited him in prison on several occasions. He had admitted that he

had fondled the boys but was not at all guilty of what he had been charged

with and was determined to fight it.

 

Unfortunately he was a poor black man in the South, charged with a heinous

crime which was complicated by the fact that he admitted to related, though

much less serious crimes. Because he was poor he could get no lawyer so was

assigned a white female public defender who, as it turned out, also worked

for the district attorney (conflict of interest?). (In the US you get the

best justice that money can buy.) When the Rahu period came all his

optimism

and fight vanished. He folded completely and was in complete illusion,

self-doubt, and other negative thought patterns associated with Rahu. The

District Attorney wanted to press the charges very strongly as they had the

three boys who would testify against him, plus his own previous admissions

of guilt to a lesser, though related crime. He was facing three counts of

aggravated sexual assault (rape) which each carried 40 year sentences. His

" lawyer " plea bargained with DA to reduce the sentence from 3X40 = 120

years

to 2X40+20 = 100 years. Being in a terrible mental state (Rahu X Rahu X

Rahu

+ Sani transit over his Moon and Ketu in the 8th from Moon during the end

of

Mars and beginning of Rahu) he accepted these terms and didn't go to trial.

He did not have to serve the terms consecutively but rather concurrently

hence the max term is 40 years and he would be eligible for parole after

about 13 years. He has been in continuous custody since 1989 and in a

Federal Prison since about Dec 90/ Jan/91. He gets out in about 2-3 years.

 

In prison he is regarded as a model prisoner and a special case. Amongst

his

convict-peers he is no doubt a learned man. He tries his best to continue

his sadhana in such hellish conditions (no vegetarian food so he just picks

out the meat). He writes he is an accomplished poet and has been published.

He has an interest to study jyotish but no facility to do so. As one might

imagine his life: physically, emotionally, intellectually and spiritually

is

very constrained and he has some very serious hurdles to over come. He sees

madness, violence, death and self-destruction on a daily basis. It gets to

him sometimes. He does mainly menial services like kitchen duty in the

prison. His wife is still faithful to him and visits him regularly. He

still maintains that he is not guilty of the charges that landed him in

prison. He maintains that the charges were false and that they were brought

against him because of racial motivations. At this time I have no reason to

disbelieve him, though that does not mean it is true.

 

I hope this brief description of his life is of some help to you. Based on

it you may feel the need to make some minor adjustment to the lagna degree

to match the life. But considering that it is from hospital records I would

be skeptical of wholesale and radical changes.

 

You had written:

 

> As far as general purpose phalita dasas are concerned, three dasas

> stand out: (1) Vimsottari dasa, (2) Narayana dasa (Padakrama dasa),

> and, (3) Kalachakra dasa. Vimsottari dasa is based on Moon's nakshatra

> and it shows everything that happens in one's life from the vantage point

> of one's mind. Narayana dasa is an exhaustive system of which Chara dasa

> is a part. It is based on the movement of lagna in one's life and

> shows the changing situations faced by the physical self. Kalachakra

> dasa is the subtlest of all to understand. It is based on the navamsa

> of Moon. While rasi chart shows what exists at the physical level,

> navamsa chart is subtle and shows the inner matters and the dharma

> followed by one. As it is based on the navamsa of the significator of

> mind, Kalachakra dasa shows the events in one's life from the point of

> view of the inner spirit of one's mind.

 

And, I had asked:

 

" I am particularly interested in the period from September 26, 1983 to

present but with special interest in 1986-92. Based on your statements

above

can you write a few paragraphs describing his life from the vantage point

of

his mind, changing situations faced by the physical self, and inner

spirit

of one's mind? How would these be different? "

 

It would seem that with Vimshottari Mahadasha of Mars and Rahu being the

times when he was teaching, doing puja and getting in trouble, was on the

run from the police and landed in jail, that these not only affected him

mentally/emotionally but also caused him to be physically confined, thus

affecting his body as well, it seems to have affected the inner spirit as

well. Mars ruling 1st also rules the 8th and the 2nd half of Mars periods

was not so good. Then of course Rahu has been quite tragic. His reputation

(10th) is ruined, he is severely punished by the government (10th house),

forced to nica karma in prison, forced to eat food contaminated with meat,

etc. The only saving grace is that he tries to keep up whatever he can of

his spiritual practice. Everyday he recites all the puja mantras he did

when

a pujari and does manasa puja to Sri-Sri Radha-Kalachandji even while in

hell. (So some of the spiritual attributes associated to Rahu in the 10th

come through.) I write to him and send him books, but even that is

difficult

as the prison restricts his mail.

 

Any comments and clarifications on this would be welcome.

 

Yours in the service of my eternal master Srila Prabhupada

 

Shyamasundara Dasa

 

 

PS Though you were kind enough to exhaustively analyze the chart above I

had

also asked two other questions which were left in the cold because of the

other question. Could you kindly answer them now? Here they are again:

 

" You have specified that Drig Dasa is for timing religious and spiritual

life. Can you give us a practical example based on the same chart above.

 

Also, what are the other Dasas that have special uses and what are those

uses? "

 

PPS as usual send to other