Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sourav, Namaskar There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the jagannath drekkana. I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 22 February 2006 09:42 sohamsa Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Dear members, I just wanted to bring something to your notice. The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption changes in the Amsa tab in the software. I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. Please do let me know your views. Thanks Souvik *tat savitur varenyam* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Respected Vistiji, Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. This was not my intention at all. Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act. Please follow my steps: 1. Open JHL7.2 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers 4. Right click and select Drekkan. Please see the Amsa of Moon. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 Moon 2 3 Durvaasa This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan Drekkana D-3 +--------------+ | \ / \ GL / | | \ Ke / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |SaR x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Gk x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Ra \ | | / \ / Md \ | +--------------+ This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: Drekkana D-3 (Jn) +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Ke / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Gk \ 8 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ju x Ma x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ra \ | | / \ / GL Md \ | +--------------+ 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) Moon 2 3 Durvaasa Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa. But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan. This was my point. I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw. As I understand this is as follows: Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: Chara Rasi: Narada Sthira Rasi: Agastha Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. Studnet Always, Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the > jagannath drekkana. > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 22 February 2006 09:42 > sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Dear members, > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views. > > Thanks > > Souvik > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Souvik, Namaskar That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have you read it by now? The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 23 February 2006 02:27 sohamsa Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Respected Vistiji, Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. This was not my intention at all. Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act. Please follow my steps: 1. Open JHL7.2 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers 4. Right click and select Drekkan. Please see the Amsa of Moon. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 Moon 2 3 Durvaasa This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan Drekkana D-3 +--------------+ | \ / \ GL / | | \ Ke / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |SaR x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Gk x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Ra \ | | / \ / Md \ | +--------------+ This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: Drekkana D-3 (Jn) +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Ke / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Gk \ 8 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ju x Ma x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ra \ | | / \ / GL Md \ | +--------------+ 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) Moon 2 3 Durvaasa Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa. But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan. This was my point. I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw. As I understand this is as follows: Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: Chara Rasi: Narada Sthira Rasi: Agastha Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. Studnet Always, Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the > jagannath drekkana. > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 22 February 2006 09:42 > sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Dear members, > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views. > > Thanks > > Souvik > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Namaskar Vistiji, It would not be an act of intelligence if someone would study Drekkans and not read your intensive research on it. However, there is just one line that is troubling my confused mind. I shall be grateful if you could remove my ignorance in this regard. " It will be noted that the Åñi of the Sävitur Gäyatri is Vishvamitra, and as both Moon and Mercury are in Durvasa Dreñkäëa, the Sävitur Gäyatri Mantra would be most excellent for the native. " This is about Param Guru Sanjay Rath. Let me put the degree of Moon and Mercury in the Rasi Chart. Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Moon - MK 19 Aq 59' 27.80 " Sata 4 Aq Pi Mercury - GK 13 Le 23' 18.89 " PPha 1 Le Le Moon is in a Fixed Sign Aquarius. Aquarius divided in 10 Degrees each. 1st Drekkan Chara (0-10)ruled by Narada 2nd. Drekkan Shithra (10-20)ruled by Agastha 3rd. Drekkan Dwibhava (20-30) ruled by Durvasa Moon is NOT 20 so in 2nd. Drekkan of Aquarius. Mercury is in 2nd. Drekkan of Leo. Now, shouldn't Moon's Amsa ruler by Aagashtha and not Naarada as shown in the software or Durvasa as stated in your article? Please correct me. Thanks Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Souvik, Namaskar > That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have > you read it by now? > The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not > based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on > seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the > amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 23 February 2006 02:27 > sohamsa > Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Respected Vistiji, > > Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on > what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed > you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. > > This was not my intention at all. > > Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. > > I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for > this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this > act. > > Please follow my steps: > 1. Open JHL7.2 > 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart > 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers > 4. Right click and select Drekkan. > > Please see the Amsa of Moon. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan > > Drekkana D-3 > +--------------+ > | \ / \ GL / | > | \ Ke / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SaR x As x AL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Gk x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Me \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / Md \ | > +--------------+ > > This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. > 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan > > The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: > Drekkana D-3 (Jn) > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ke / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ve \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |AL x As x SaR | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ HL / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Gk \ 8 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Mo x Me | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su Ju x Ma x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / GL Md \ | > +--------------+ > > 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the > caption changes. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) > > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > > Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and > should be Agastha's amsa. > > But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's > Drekkan. > > This was my point. > > I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please > do educate me and correct my flaw. > > As I understand this is as follows: > > Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius > So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: > Chara Rasi: Narada > Sthira Rasi: Agastha > Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa > > So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. > > If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. > > Studnet Always, > > Souvik > > sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, > which you > > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST > from the > > jagannath drekkana. > > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you > didn't > > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the > sharada > > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Souvik Dutta > > 22 February 2006 09:42 > > sohamsa > > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > > > Dear members, > > > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the > caption > > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure > that > > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > > > Please do let me know your views. > > > > Thanks > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Souvik, Namaskar Yes, it was the placement of Sun in the third drekkana, which i wanted to bring to fore there. Its a typo, and i will correct it. I must have relied on Jagannath Hora when doing the calculations. I hope Narasimha will correct this mistake. The first drekkana is always narada, second is agasthya and third is durvasa, as you have stated. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 23 February 2006 07:22 sohamsa Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Namaskar Vistiji, It would not be an act of intelligence if someone would study Drekkans and not read your intensive research on it. However, there is just one line that is troubling my confused mind. I shall be grateful if you could remove my ignorance in this regard. " It will be noted that the Åñi of the Sävitur Gäyatri is Vishvamitra, and as both Moon and Mercury are in Durvasa Dreñkäëa, the Sävitur Gäyatri Mantra would be most excellent for the native. " This is about Param Guru Sanjay Rath. Let me put the degree of Moon and Mercury in the Rasi Chart. Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Moon - MK 19 Aq 59' 27.80 " Sata 4 Aq Pi Mercury - GK 13 Le 23' 18.89 " PPha 1 Le Le Moon is in a Fixed Sign Aquarius. Aquarius divided in 10 Degrees each. 1st Drekkan Chara (0-10)ruled by Narada 2nd. Drekkan Shithra (10-20)ruled by Agastha 3rd. Drekkan Dwibhava (20-30) ruled by Durvasa Moon is NOT 20 so in 2nd. Drekkan of Aquarius. Mercury is in 2nd. Drekkan of Leo. Now, shouldn't Moon's Amsa ruler by Aagashtha and not Naarada as shown in the software or Durvasa as stated in your article? Please correct me. Thanks Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Souvik, Namaskar > That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have > you read it by now? > The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not > based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on > seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the > amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 23 February 2006 02:27 > sohamsa > Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Respected Vistiji, > > Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on > what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed > you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. > > This was not my intention at all. > > Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. > > I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for > this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this > act. > > Please follow my steps: > 1. Open JHL7.2 > 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart > 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers > 4. Right click and select Drekkan. > > Please see the Amsa of Moon. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan > > Drekkana D-3 > +--------------+ > | \ / \ GL / | > | \ Ke / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SaR x As x AL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Gk x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Me \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / Md \ | > +--------------+ > > This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. > 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan > > The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: > Drekkana D-3 (Jn) > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ke / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ve \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |AL x As x SaR | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ HL / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Gk \ 8 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Mo x Me | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su Ju x Ma x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / GL Md \ | > +--------------+ > > 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the > caption changes. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) > > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > > Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and > should be Agastha's amsa. > > But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's > Drekkan. > > This was my point. > > I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please > do educate me and correct my flaw. > > As I understand this is as follows: > > Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius > So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: > Chara Rasi: Narada > Sthira Rasi: Agastha > Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa > > So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. > > If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. > > Studnet Always, > > Souvik > > sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, > which you > > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST > from the > > jagannath drekkana. > > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you > didn't > > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the > sharada > > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Souvik Dutta > > 22 February 2006 09:42 > > sohamsa > > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > > > Dear members, > > > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the > caption > > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure > that > > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > > > Please do let me know your views. > > > > Thanks > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear All, Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in the mentioned in JHL? Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenThursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Souvik, NamaskarThat statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Haveyou read it by now?The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and notbased on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise onseeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why theamsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes,***Visti LarsenFor services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com***-----Original Message-----sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf OfSouvik Dutta23 February 2006 02:27sohamsa Subject: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2Respected Vistiji,Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail.This was not my intention at all.Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation.I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act.Please follow my steps:1. Open JHL7.22. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers4. Right click and select Drekkan.Please see the Amsa of Moon.Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3Moon 2 3 DurvaasaThis Dreshkan is Parasara's DreshkanDrekkana D-3+--------------+| \ / \ GL / || \ Ke / \ Mo / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||SaR x As x AL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 4 / \ || / \ / \ || Gk x || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Me \ / Ra \ || / \ / Md \ |+--------------+This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga.5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath DreshkanThe Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is:Drekkana D-3 (Jn)+--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Ke / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / Ve \ / || \ / \ / ||AL x As x SaR || / \ / \ || / \ HL / \ || / \ / \ || / Gk \ 8 / \ || / \ / \ || Mo x Me || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Su Ju x Ma x || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / Ra \ || / \ / GL Md \ |+--------------+6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes.Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn)Moon 2 3 DurvaasaNow as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa.But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan.This was my point.I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw.As I understand this is as follows:Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows:Chara Rasi: NaradaSthira Rasi: AgasthaDwibhava Rasi: DurvasaSo, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa.If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me.Studnet Always,Souviksohamsa , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Sourav, Namaskar> There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you> can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the> jagannath drekkana.> I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't> read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada> yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com> ***> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Souvik Dutta> 22 February 2006 09:42> sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2> > Dear members,> > I just wanted to bring something to your notice.> > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views.> > Thanks> > Souvik> > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Why should they? Listen to it again J Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear All, Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in the mentioned in JHL? Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Souvik, Namaskar That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have you read it by now? The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 23 February 2006 02:27 sohamsa Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Respected Vistiji, Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. This was not my intention at all. Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act. Please follow my steps: 1. Open JHL7.2 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers 4. Right click and select Drekkan. Please see the Amsa of Moon. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 Moon 2 3 Durvaasa This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan Drekkana D-3 +--------------+ | \ / \ GL / | | \ Ke / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |SaR x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Gk x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Ra \ | | / \ / Md \ | +--------------+ This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: Drekkana D-3 (Jn) +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Ke / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Gk \ 8 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ju x Ma x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ra \ | | / \ / GL Md \ | +--------------+ 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) Moon 2 3 Durvaasa Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa. But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan. This was my point. I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw. As I understand this is as follows: Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: Chara Rasi: Narada Sthira Rasi: Agastha Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. Studnet Always, Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the > jagannath drekkana. > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 22 February 2006 09:42 > sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Dear members, > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views. > > Thanks > > Souvik > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Visti, I guess this answers my question too. Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenThursday, February 23, 2006 3:30 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Souvik, NamaskarYes, it was the placement of Sun in the third drekkana, which i wanted tobring to fore there. Its a typo, and i will correct it. I must have reliedon Jagannath Hora when doing the calculations. I hope Narasimha will correctthis mistake. The first drekkana is always narada, second is agasthya andthird is durvasa, as you have stated.Best wishes,***Visti LarsenFor services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com***-----Original Message-----sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf OfSouvik Dutta23 February 2006 07:22sohamsa Subject: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2Namaskar Vistiji,It would not be an act of intelligence if someone would study Drekkans and not read your intensive research on it.However, there is just one line that is troubling my confused mind.I shall be grateful if you could remove my ignorance in this regard."It will be noted that the Åñi of the Sävitur Gäyatri is Vishvamitra, and as both Moon and Mercury are in Durvasa Dreñkäëa, the Sävitur Gäyatri Mantra would be most excellent for the native."This is about Param Guru Sanjay Rath.Let me put the degree of Moon and Mercury in the Rasi Chart.Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi NavamsaMoon - MK 19 Aq 59' 27.80" Sata 4 Aq PiMercury - GK 13 Le 23' 18.89" PPha 1 Le LeMoon is in a Fixed Sign Aquarius.Aquarius divided in 10 Degrees each.1st Drekkan Chara (0-10)ruled by Narada2nd. Drekkan Shithra (10-20)ruled by Agastha3rd. Drekkan Dwibhava (20-30) ruled by DurvasaMoon is NOT 20 so in 2nd. Drekkan of Aquarius.Mercury is in 2nd. Drekkan of Leo.Now, shouldn't Moon's Amsa ruler by Aagashtha and not Naarada as shown in the software or Durvasa as stated in your article?Please correct me.ThanksSouviksohamsa , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Souvik, Namaskar> That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have> you read it by now?> The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not> based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on> seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the> amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. > Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com> ***> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Souvik Dutta> 23 February 2006 02:27> sohamsa > Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2> > Respected Vistiji,> > Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on > what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed > you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail.> > This was not my intention at all.> > Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation.> > I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for > this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this > act.> > Please follow my steps:> 1. Open JHL7.2> 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart> 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers> 4. Right click and select Drekkan.> > Please see the Amsa of Moon.> > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3> > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa> This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan> > Drekkana D-3> +--------------+> | \ / \ GL / |> | \ Ke / \ Mo / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |SaR x As x AL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 4 / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Gk x |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / Me \ / Ra \ |> | / \ / Md \ |> +--------------+> > This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga.> 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan> > The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is:> Drekkana D-3 (Jn)> +--------------+> | \ / \ / |> | \ Ke / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Ve \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |AL x As x SaR |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ HL / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / Gk \ 8 / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Mo x Me |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Su Ju x Ma x |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / Ra \ |> | / \ / GL Md \ |> +--------------+> > 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the > caption changes.> > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn)> > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa> > Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and > should be Agastha's amsa.> > But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's > Drekkan.> > This was my point.> > I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please > do educate me and correct my flaw.> > As I understand this is as follows:> > Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius > So, if the rule as I understand is as follows:> Chara Rasi: Narada> Sthira Rasi: Agastha> Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa> > So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa.> > If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me.> > Studnet Always,> > Souvik> > sohamsa , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, > which you> > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST > from the> > jagannath drekkana.> > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you > didn't> > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the > sharada> > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of> > Souvik Dutta> > 22 February 2006 09:42> > sohamsa > > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2> > > > Dear members,> > > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice.> > > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the > caption > > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure > that > > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > > > Please do let me know your views.> > > > Thanks> > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, I think Sanjayji mentioned Narda, Agastya and Durvasa for 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions respectively, whereas software has a mismatch in some cases. Could be a bug! Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee ChanThursday, February 23, 2006 10:04 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Why should they? Listen to it again J Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniThursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear All, Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in the mentioned in JHL? Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenThursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Souvik, NamaskarThat statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Haveyou read it by now?The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and notbased on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise onseeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why theamsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes,***Visti LarsenFor services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com***-----Original Message-----sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf OfSouvik Dutta23 February 2006 02:27sohamsa Subject: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2Respected Vistiji,Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail.This was not my intention at all.Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation.I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act.Please follow my steps:1. Open JHL7.22. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers4. Right click and select Drekkan.Please see the Amsa of Moon.Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3Moon 2 3 DurvaasaThis Dreshkan is Parasara's DreshkanDrekkana D-3+--------------+| \ / \ GL / || \ Ke / \ Mo / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||SaR x As x AL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 4 / \ || / \ / \ || Gk x || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Me \ / Ra \ || / \ / Md \ |+--------------+This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga.5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath DreshkanThe Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is:Drekkana D-3 (Jn)+--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Ke / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / Ve \ / || \ / \ / ||AL x As x SaR || / \ / \ || / \ HL / \ || / \ / \ || / Gk \ 8 / \ || / \ / \ || Mo x Me || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Su Ju x Ma x || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / Ra \ || / \ / GL Md \ |+--------------+6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes.Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn)Moon 2 3 DurvaasaNow as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa.But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan.This was my point.I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw.As I understand this is as follows:Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows:Chara Rasi: NaradaSthira Rasi: AgasthaDwibhava Rasi: DurvasaSo, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa.If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me.Studnet Always,Souviksohamsa , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Sourav, Namaskar> There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you> can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the> jagannath drekkana.> I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't> read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada> yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com> ***> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Souvik Dutta> 22 February 2006 09:42> sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2> > Dear members,> > I just wanted to bring something to your notice.> > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views.> > Thanks> > Souvik> > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar It is an ERROR and must be corrected. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani 23 February 2006 16:20 sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, I think Sanjayji mentioned Narda, Agastya and Durvasa for 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions respectively, whereas software has a mismatch in some cases. Could be a bug! Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:04 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Why should they? Listen to it again J Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear All, Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in the mentioned in JHL? Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Souvik, Namaskar That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have you read it by now? The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 23 February 2006 02:27 sohamsa Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Respected Vistiji, Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. This was not my intention at all. Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act. Please follow my steps: 1. Open JHL7.2 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers 4. Right click and select Drekkan. Please see the Amsa of Moon. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 Moon 2 3 Durvaasa This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan Drekkana D-3 +--------------+ | \ / \ GL / | | \ Ke / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |SaR x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Gk x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Ra \ | | / \ / Md \ | +--------------+ This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: Drekkana D-3 (Jn) +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Ke / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Gk \ 8 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ju x Ma x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ra \ | | / \ / GL Md \ | +--------------+ 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) Moon 2 3 Durvaasa Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa. But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan. This was my point. I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw. As I understand this is as follows: Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: Chara Rasi: Narada Sthira Rasi: Agastha Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. Studnet Always, Souvik sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the > jagannath drekkana. > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 22 February 2006 09:42 > sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Dear members, > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views. > > Thanks > > Souvik > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Thank you. I see the mistake here. Thank you Souvik for pointing this out. Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:20 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, I think Sanjayji mentioned Narda, Agastya and Durvasa for 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions respectively, whereas software has a mismatch in some cases. Could be a bug! Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:04 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Why should they? Listen to it again J Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear All, Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in the mentioned in JHL? Best Wishes, Ramesh sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Souvik, Namaskar That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have you read it by now? The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** -----Original Message----- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta Sent: 23 February 2006 02:27 To: sohamsa Subject: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 Respected Vistiji, Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. This was not my intention at all. Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this act. Please follow my steps: 1. Open JHL7.2 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers 4. Right click and select Drekkan. Please see the Amsa of Moon. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 Moon 2 3 Durvaasa This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan Drekkana D-3 +--------------+ | \ / \ GL / | | \ Ke / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |SaR x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Gk x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Ra \ | | / \ / Md \ | +--------------+ This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: Drekkana D-3 (Jn) +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ Ke / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ HL / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Gk \ 8 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ju x Ma x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Ra \ | | / \ / GL Md \ | +--------------+ 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the caption changes. Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) Moon 2 3 Durvaasa Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and should be Agastha's amsa. But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's Drekkan. This was my point. I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please do educate me and correct my flaw. As I understand this is as follows: Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: Chara Rasi: Narada Sthira Rasi: Agastha Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. Studnet Always, Souvik --- In sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, which you > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST from the > jagannath drekkana. > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you didn't > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the sharada > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 22 February 2006 09:42 > sohamsa > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Dear members, > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the caption > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure that > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > Please do let me know your views. > > Thanks > > Souvik > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Dear Swee, The main credit for the identification of this minor issue goes to Param Guru Sanjay Rathji. Next the credit goes to Ajayji and Divyaji for uploading the audios which actually brought this to my notice. Next credit goes to Vistiji whose mails gave me the encouragement to make sure that I am not talking rubbish and made me burn the mid- night lamp and go thru all possible references of Drekkan that I could find on the net. Also I would like to add that there may be many who may have found this slight issue with the software but this is really nothing much of a issue so ignored it with their greatness. Since, I have Ketu in my Asc, confusion is but a part of my life and posted this mail like a child to make sure I keep check on the number of mistakes I make Dear Rameshji, Yes, Sanjay ji has mentioned absolutely correct Drekkan's in his audio and that is how I found this slight anomaly in the software. He also mentioned that he took the name of Sage Agastha many times and later realised the implication from his Drekkan. Student Always, Souvik sohamsa , " Swee Chan " <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Namaste > > > > Thank you. I see the mistake here. > > Thank you Souvik for pointing this out. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:20 PM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > Dear Swee, > > I think Sanjayji mentioned Narda, Agastya and Durvasa for 1st, 2nd and 3rd > divisions respectively, whereas software has a mismatch in some cases. Could > be a bug! > > Best Wishes, > > Ramesh > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Swee Chan > Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:04 AM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Why should they? Listen to it again :-) > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > Dear All, > > Has anybody gone through the Sanjayji's audio on jagannath drekkana? Is > there a difference in the rishis that were named in the lecture and amsas in > the mentioned in JHL? > > Best Wishes, > > Ramesh > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Visti Larsen > Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:44 AM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Souvik, Namaskar > That statement of mine was meant to instigate you to read my article. Have > you read it by now? > The drekkana deities are fixed based on the jagannath drekkana, and not > based on the signs/placements of the other drekkanas. Sanjayjis advise on > seeing the sign in the jagannath drekkana is a 'shortcut'. That is why the > amsa is not changing with the change of drekkanas. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Souvik Dutta > 23 February 2006 02:27 > sohamsa > Re: Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > Respected Vistiji, > > Pranam. First of all and before I proceed with an explanation on > what I wanted to say, my thousand apologies if I have dissapointed > you or any other esteemed member on this forum with my mail. > > This was not my intention at all. > > Please give me an opportunity to explain my observation. > > I taking the audacity of using Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart for > this explanation. I would request the Acharya to forgive me for this > act. > > Please follow my steps: > 1. Open JHL7.2 > 2. Open Param Guru Sanjay Rath's chart > 3. Please go to the Basics->Amsa rulers > 4. Right click and select Drekkan. > > Please see the Amsa of Moon. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > This Dreshkan is Parasara's Dreshkan > > Drekkana D-3 > +--------------+ > | \ / \ GL / | > | \ Ke / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SaR x As x AL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Gk x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ju Ve x Ma x HL Su | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Me \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / Md \ | > +--------------+ > > This is the chart in which Guruji has Sharada Yoga. > 5. On the chart section, please select Jagannath Dreshkan > > The Jagannath Dreshkan of Guruji is: > Drekkana D-3 (Jn) > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ke / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ve \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |AL x As x SaR | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ HL / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Gk \ 8 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Mo x Me | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su Ju x Ma x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Ra \ | > | / \ / GL Md \ | > +--------------+ > > 6. The Amsa rulers in the Amsa tab does not change although the > caption changes. > > Body Division Index In whose amsa in D-3 (Jn) > > > Moon 2 3 Durvaasa > > Now as far as my limited knowledge does Mon is in Aquarius and > should be Agastha's amsa. > > But we see that JHL shows it is in the same amsa as in Parasa's > Drekkan. > > This was my point. > > I maybe completely wrong and may be missing something here so please > do educate me and correct my flaw. > > As I understand this is as follows: > > Guruji, as per Jagannath Dreshkana has Moon in Aquarius > So, if the rule as I understand is as follows: > Chara Rasi: Narada > Sthira Rasi: Agastha > Dwibhava Rasi: Durvasa > > So, according to this theory Moon should be in Agastha Amsa. > > If my understanding is incorrect, please do correct me. > > Studnet Always, > > Souvik > > sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar > > There is no bug. The amsa rishis are based on a fixed calculation, > which you > > can read from BPHS. Their alotment to the signs is done EASIEST > from the > > jagannath drekkana. > > I'm slightly disapointed with this question, as it shows that you > didn't > > read my article on 'Jnana Yoga', wherein i have talked about the > sharada > > yoga and the jagannath drekkana. Please go read it. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Souvik Dutta > > 22 February 2006 09:42 > > sohamsa > > Dreshkan Amsa Guru + JHL7.2 > > > > Dear members, > > > > I just wanted to bring something to your notice. > > > > The Amsa Gurus (Lord) of the Dreshkan in JHL7.2 (defaulted to > > Parashari Dreshkan Amsa Lords) does not change if I change the > > Dreshkan chart from Parasari to any other 3 types although the > caption > > changes in the Amsa tab in the software. > > > > I would presume it to be a minor bug but just wanted to make sure > that > > I am not missing anything and am doing things correctly. > > > > Please do let me know your views. > > > > Thanks > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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