Hora definition (Lesson#6)

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Pranaam Gurudeva,

 

You gave some food for thought when you talked about the

poles. I will ponder over it.

 

However, saying that a new weekday starts at 6 am LMT is

very very arbitrary. Westerners start a new weekday at

midnight (local standard time). If that is arbitrary,

taking 6 am (local mean time) is not less arbitrary.

Why 6 am? Why not 5 am? Why not 6:30 am? Why not 6:05

am? Why not 6:01 am? This is very arbitrary.

 

For Hindus, any measure of time must be based on

astronomical factors, like the movement of lagna, Moon

and Sun. Sun's longitude or the longitude difference of

Sun and Moon or the longitude difference of Sun and

lagna forms the basis for measuring time.

 

There is no disagreement among scholars about when the

new weekday and its first hora start. They all agree that

it happens when Sun rises. If you want to deviate, there

must be a very strong reason. You don't seem to have one.

 

Hora comes from ahoratra (day & night). We take one day

and one night and divide the total into 24 parts. It is

usually equal to an hour (60 minutes). However, that is

not necessary. The measure of time is the motion of Sun,

Moon and earth and NOT the oscillations of a quartz

crystal.

 

In locations where sunrise is at 4 am, I am not suggesting

anything like " Placidus " house division. If sunrise is at

4 am on one day and at 4:03 am on the next day, then I

take each hora as 24:03/24=1 hour 7.5 sec. A new weekday

starts at 4 am and the weekday lord's hora starts along

with it. It ends at 5:00:7.5 am and the next hora starts.

So where is " Placidus house division " here? I don't see

what you mean. I am doing the logical thing by starting

the new weekday and its first hora at sunrise, whereas

you are waiting for 2 more hours.

 

I am absolutely confident that I am correct. I am also

confident that you will agree later. Kindly rethink.

 

When we talk about the poles, a lot of weird things happen

there and the hora/sunrise puzzle is only one of them. I

will ponder about it anyway.

 

Your sishya,

Narasimha

 

varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote:

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> What shall we do for the people near the poles? The Sunrise shall

take place

> after 6 months!! The LMT equivalent for 6 AM is the only definition

that

> shall work everywhere. Your statement about it working near the

equator

> alone is not correct as it is independant of the sunrise and hence

> independant of latitude. Do rethink.

>

> Those who use sunrise will have problems when they consider higher

latitudes

> as the sunrise shall be difficult to define for places inside the

artic or

> antartic circle i.e. beyond 66 deg lat. the sunrise in England can

be at 4

> AM and we shall have horas stretched out like the placidius house

system

> which can have two or more houses in a sign.

>

> First be sure whether we shall use variable house lengths or fixed

house

> lengths. If they are variable, then the horas can be stretched. If

they are

> fixed at 30 deg, then the Horas cannot be stretched. The concept

has to be

> uniform as Horas and houses are closely interlinked.

>

> Best wishes

> Sanjay Rath