Light of Brahman...to Bharat (Sanjayji's health)

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Namaskaar Sri NarasimhaHarih Aum! Sri Gurubhyoh Namah! Harih Aum!That Krishna refers to Arjuna by name, does he cease to be a Jeevan Mukta. Do trees and the mind not exist for Krishna. Does he stop perceiving the elements? Does Brahma Vidya dissolve the Universe? Is Universe not Brahman? Only name and form is Maya but Satyam, Gnanam, Anantam is Brahman. The Isness is Brahman. A Jeevan Mukta uses and calls Arjuna by name as Sri Vashishtha calls Rama by name. The name is for the body and the mind and therefore, can be called so. Suppose I know of Brahman and you do not - would you be dual to me? Will duality exist for me? That you see your individual self as apart from whole Self, that you call something dual. For Krishna, there is no duality but he will use the dual words to " bring " to non-dual. The question is why? - Because Knowledge proceeds from known to the unknown. No one follows Dwaita. Dwaita is simply an acceptance that the " I " is different from the Lord. It is what everyone is born in. No following is needed. As more and more people join in this discussion, more and more conclusions will be presented and most will be faulty. The most important erroneous conclusion is - Guru will show the path and disciple will walk on it!

You also touched upon Mumukshatvam, it is a great desire to have, but a binding one as it implies that Brahman is a goal to be achieved. That is the problem with having this as a goal. An already achieved end cannot be achieved. I can say this to you, not to others. I hope you get my meaning. I take the above discussion as a natural progression of our small discussion on " May the light of Brahman shine within " and therefore acceptable over the internet. Like I said, you have a wonderful intellect and 8th house in your chart

is extremely powerful. Anything hidden from you bothers you and you

are likely to study and find out. Being deeply intuitive, and by

resolution of the above, you shall come to the same conclusion soon.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 4/12/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <

pvr wrote:

 

Namaste Sri Bharat,

> Mahatma that - By giving up the desire of knowing Brahman, one knows it.

 

True, but that alone is not sufficient. For most people who are not anywhere close to knowing Brahman, that desire is actually a good thing to possess. For the time being, anyway.

 

> No, Sri Narasimha, it does not mean the same. Brahma Vidya means that you> question the existence of the layers and understand that they aren't there.

 

We slightly differ in our definition of Brahma Vidya. There is a lot of knowledge that can be learnt from books - such as Vedanta, Upanishats etc - that makes one question the existence of the layers and try to convince oneself that they aren't there. All that knowledge takes one towards Brahma Vidya, but it is not Brahma Vidya. To me, Brahma Vidya is the knowledge that one obtains after experiencing - not just reading or thinking - that the layers are not there. That is why Upanishat says that Brahma Vidya cannot be learnt from books or from teachers and can only be experienced.

> It also means that whatever you might think is blocking the light, is not> there. It also means the concept of within and without isn't there.

> > I do not wish or mean to give you a sermon on the same. Your study of Yoga> Vashishtha will reveal the above to you sooner or later.

You are going fully non-dual here and totally ignoring duality. As I pointed out previously, I, Narasimha Rao, would not have addressed you, Bharat, and sent an email over the internet, if duality was fiction and did not exist. I speak in dualistic terminology because we are living and communicating in the world of duality.

 

Even a great rishi who may be in nirvikalpa samadhi for months in perfect non-duality will start experiencing duality the moment he comes down from samadhi to start interacting with this material world again. Only a great rishi in sahaja samadhi can live in this world and yet remain in non-duality in all the three states (awake, asleep and dreaming). Otherwise, it is not possible to remain in non-duality in all the three states. Sahaja samadhi is a rarity even among the greatest of Yogis.

 

> Your study of Yoga Vashishtha will reveal the above to you sooner or later.> My best wishes for the same

 

Thank you!

* * *

 

Anyway, thank you for a nice philosophical discussion. While we are on the topic of duality, non-duality etc, I want to share an analogy that was given by my spiritual guru to illustrate the difference between Dwaita and Adwaita. This analogy can help one understand and appreciate the difference between various philosophies. It explains how all seemingly contradictory philosophies are correct in their own right and try to capture the reality at various levels.

 

Imagine God to be a bright star in the sky. When you see from a distance, God seems tiny and you conclude that there is only one God. If you start moving towards God, you realize as you get closer that the star is in reality a huge diamond with 330 million faces. Each face is several miles long and wide and has various attributes (gunas). One face may be red and hot and another may be blue and cold etc. So, as you get closer to the diamond, you have to pick one face to get close to.

 

Now, when you get too close to a face, the whole world will seem to have the attributes of that face. For example, if you get too close to a face that is cold and blue, then the whole world will feel cold and blue to you. In other words, the God you are getting close to is the Supreme god of the world and fills the entire world as you experience it.

 

This is the ultimate goal in sadhana for one adhering to Dwaita siddhanta (duality). For them, getting close to ishta devata and securing a place near the feet is the highest goal.

 

For some, there is a next stage: As you get closer and closer to the face you picked, you finally merge with it! This is the ultimate goal in sadhana for one adhering to Visishtaadwaita.

 

To Advaitis, this communion with a Saguna ( " with attributes " ) form of God is not the final goal. The final goal is to break through the face and jump into the inside of the diamond. As you break through the face of the diamond into which you merge and jump into the interior of the diamond, you no longer perceive the faces of the diamond or the world outside. There are no longer any objects or attributes. The experiencer, experienced and experience all merge into one.

 

Some people are quite dogmatic about these philosophies and unnecessarily fight over them. It is kind of like arguing whether a 100,000 mile marathon is worthier or a 100,100 mile marathon or a 100,200 mile marathon. It is far more important to simply enter one of the three and finish the marathon entered successfully. Anyone who successfully finishes any of the three marathons deserves our highest respects.

 

Also, they can be stages in the same path. They don't necessarily have to be contending paths.

 

For most people, Dwaita philosophy is perhaps the best starting point anyway.

 

Ok, I will end my rambling now. But I love the above analogy. It is simple and yet so thoughtful. As you ponder more on it, you will realize how meaningful it is. So I wanted to share it with you all.

 

May the light of Brahman shine within,

Narasimha

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> Namaskaar Sri Narasimha> > Yes, the light of Brahman is always shining. Do we only have to make a wish> for something that IS NOT? Can't we just wish for (or simply appreciate)> something that IS?> > Wish is something for that isn't or to keep something that is (in case of> fear of losing the desirable). Brahman IS and ISN'T going to go away. So a> wish is not possible for the same. There is a beautiful statement by a> Mahatma that - By giving up the desire of knowing Brahman, one knows it.> > Well, is Brahma Vidya going to dawn upon us from outside or from within?> Isn't it already within us? Do we search for it somewhere outside of us or> do we simply unravel layers of manifested existence and layers of> accumulated samskaras within ourselves to uncover the Brahma Vidya that is> already within, but obscured by all those layers? When the layers are> unravelled and the light of Brahman illuminates every part of our existence,> isn't that synonymous to the " dawning of Brahma Vidya " ? If not, what else is> meant by the dawning of Brahma Vidya?> > No, Sri Narasimha, it does not mean the same. Brahma Vidya means that you> question the existence of the layers and understand that they aren't there.> It also means that whatever you might think is blocking the light, is not> there. It also means the concept of within and without isn't there.> > I do not wish or mean to give you a sermon on the same. Your study of Yoga> Vashishtha will reveal the above to you sooner or later.> > My best wishes for the same> Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > On 4/11/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:> >> > Namaskar Sri Bharat,> >> > > Just one thought that I have been wanting to convey to you: The light of> > > Brahman is always shining. In its light, we " see " thoughts, actions,> > etc.> > > When it is not shining?> >> > Yes, the light of Brahman is always shining. Do we only have to make a> > wish for something that IS NOT? Can't we just wish for (or simply> > appreciate) something that IS?> >> > Actually, there is an important point: Though the light of Brahman is> > shining fully in the innermost core of our existence, the other layers of> > our existence may be blocking that light. I agree that what we see, hear,> > think etc is all due to the light of Brahman only. All our experiences are> > indeed illuminated by the light of Brahman. However, it is only a small part> > of the light that illuminates our mundane experiences. When the light of> > Brahman fully illuminates every part of our manifested existence, I am no> > longer Narasimha Rao and you are no longer Bharat. We both are one and the> > same and encompass the entire universe. We don't need to be communicating> > through emails.> >> > > So the statement " May the light of Brahman shine> > > within " becomes irrelevant. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use -> > " May> > > Brahma Vidya dawns upon each " ? or similar.> >> > Well, is Brahma Vidya going to dawn upon us from outside or from within?> > Isn't it already within us? Do we search for it somewhere outside of us or> > do we simply unravel layers of manifested existence and layers of> > accumulated samskaras within ourselves to uncover the Brahma Vidya that is> > already within, but obscured by all those layers? When the layers are> > unravelled and the light of Brahman illuminates every part of our existence,> > isn't that synonymous to the " dawning of Brahma Vidya " ? If not, what else is> > meant by the dawning of Brahma Vidya?> >> > Sorry for a non-astrological mail, but, if I remember right, sohamsa list> > was originally meant for spiritual discussions as well.> >> > May the light of Brahman shine within,> > Narasimha> >> > > Namaskaar Sri Narasimha> > >> > > Very nice remarks about Prasada Buddhi and the way they have been> > conveyed> > > to your Jyotisha Guru. Non-acceptance is the cause of stress.> > >> > > Just one thought that I have been wanting to convey to you: The light of> > > Brahman is always shining. In its light, we " see " thoughts, actions,> > etc.> > > When it is not shining? So the statement " May the light of Brahman> > shine> > > within " becomes irrelevant. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use -> > " May> > > Brahma Vidya dawns upon each " ? or similar.> > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > > On 4/6/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste friends,> > > >> > > > There has been a discussion on Sanjay's health. Here are my two cents.> > > >> > > > Sanjay is running Cancer's dasa as per Paryaya dasa of D-6. Cancer is> > the> > > > 8th house and contains Moon and roga pada (A6) as well.> > > >> > > > The results of Moon in marana karaka sthana are given in the middle> > > > one-third. That itself was not such a good period, barring some parts.> > > > However, the final one-third (2003-2007) gives the results of 8th> > house and> > > > A6 fully and THAT is the worst period. With the planet involved being> > Moon,> > > > no wonder it is blood pressure.> > > >> > > > I am glad there is some improvement lately, but Sanjay should remain> > > > careful until Aug 2007. I see the problematic period ending only then.> > > >> > > > Sanjay should be extra careful during 2006 May 18-June 8 and just take> > > > everything easy.> > > >> > > > * * *> > > >> > > > In general, everyone should strive to enter the state where there are> > > > absolutely no expectations and there is only detached effort. Then> > alone can> > > > one overcome stress. If we have a specific goal or expectation and our> > > > efforts are motivated by it, it MAY lead to stress. Nay, it often DOES> > lead> > > > to stress. On the other hand, if we start believing that there is no> > > > one-to-one relationship between our current efforts (karma) and> > results> > > > (phala) and hence engage in actions (karma) - not motivated by logical> > > > analysis based on an specific expectations, but based solely on the> > inner> > > > guidance - without any motivation and accept all fruits (phala)> > without> > > > prejudice, there is no scope for stress. Such attitude releases amrita> > - the> > > > nectar of divinity - within.> > > >> > > > The main problem of living beings is their mind. But, curiously, it is> > the> > > > solution too.> > > >> > > > Sorry if this sounds like sermonizing. It wasn't meant to. Just my two> > > > cents of random thoughts...please ignore if they make no sense.> > > >> > > > May the light of Brahman shine within, Narasimha> > > > -------------------------------> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > -------------------------------

 

 

*tat savitur varenyam*

 

 

 

 

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Bharat ji,

 

I have mostly missed out on most of this interesting thread because

of personal preoccupations. Though I am late, I would like to

contribute my prosaic two cents :--))

 

When Narasimha said " let the light of Brahman shine within " , I think

he meant that sentence more as a " prachodana " , like the Gayatri

mantra. It is not that he was seeking a non-existent entity within

himself, he was evincing a greater need for harnessing/triggering a

particular kind of energy.

 

If I may elect a mundane example....my computer system comes loaded

with OS and several software packages. While the hardware (body) and

OS(soul) are mandatory for any system to run, the software packages

can be optional. Even when the software is already loaded in the

system, don't you need to issue a command/direction/click to

invoke/run a particular program?

 

In our body too there are several drivers for the bodyparts. Will

all be running all the time? There needs to be a " prachodana " from

the brain for activating them.

 

Similarly, the Sun, like the Brahman shines forever...but do we see

him all the time? Even during the day, if a person shuts all the

windows of his house and his eyes too...is the Sun and his light

perceivable to him? Hence i feel that this " prachodana " is an

assertion of need & a willingness/commitment to open oneself to that

Supreme Energy....

 

In Ramayana Vishwamitra utters the famous invocation to Lord Rama...

 

Kousalyaa suprajaa raamaa poorva sandhya pravartate

Utthishta narashaardoola kartavyam daivamaahnikam

 

Sri Rama, being a poornavatara, one may argue, does not require any

reminder about his duties. Then why did the venerable sage behave in

such a way? Was the sage ignorant of the divine nature and mission

of Rama? He did so because, like the Sun, Rama also represents the

Shaaswata Brahma and Jnaana shakti, who is basically actionless and

needs to be urged into action.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaskaar Sri Narasimha

>

> Harih Aum! Sri Gurubhyoh Namah! Harih Aum!

>

> That Krishna refers to Arjuna by name, does he cease to be a

Jeevan Mukta.

> Do trees and the mind not exist for Krishna. Does he stop

perceiving the

> elements?

>

> Does Brahma Vidya dissolve the Universe? Is Universe not Brahman?

Only name

> and form is Maya but Satyam, Gnanam, Anantam is Brahman. The

Isness is

> Brahman. A Jeevan Mukta uses and calls Arjuna by name as Sri

Vashishtha

> calls Rama by name. The name is for the body and the mind and

therefore, can

> be called so.

>

> Suppose I know of Brahman and you do not - would you be dual to

me? Will

> duality exist for me? That you see your individual self as apart

from whole

> Self, that you call something dual. For Krishna, there is no

duality but he

> will use the dual words to " bring " to non-dual. The question is

why? -

> Because Knowledge proceeds from known to the unknown. No one

follows Dwaita.

> Dwaita is simply an acceptance that the " I " is different from the

Lord. It

> is what everyone is born in. No following is needed.

>

> As more and more people join in this discussion, more and more

conclusions

> will be presented and most will be faulty. The most important

erroneous

> conclusion is - Guru will show the path and disciple will walk on

it!

>

> You also touched upon Mumukshatvam, it is a great desire to have,

but a

> binding one as it implies that Brahman is a goal to be achieved.

That is

> the problem with having this as a goal. An already achieved end

cannot be

> achieved. I can say this to you, not to others. I hope you get my

meaning.

>

> I take the above discussion as a natural progression of our small

discussion

> on " May the light of Brahman shine within " and therefore

acceptable over the

> internet.

>

> Like I said, you have a wonderful intellect and 8th house in your

chart is

> extremely powerful. Anything hidden from you bothers you and you

are likely

> to study and find out. Being deeply intuitive, and by resolution

of the

> above, you shall come to the same conclusion soon.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

> On 4/12/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Bharat,

> >

> > > Mahatma that - By giving up the desire of knowing Brahman, one

knows it.

> >

> > True, but that alone is not sufficient. For most people who are

not

> > anywhere close to knowing Brahman, that desire is actually a

good thing to

> > possess. For the time being, anyway.

> >

> > > No, Sri Narasimha, it does not mean the same. Brahma Vidya

means that

> > you

> > > question the existence of the layers and understand that they

aren't

> > there.

> >

> > We slightly differ in our definition of Brahma Vidya. There is a

lot

> > of knowledge that can be learnt from books - such as Vedanta,

Upanishats etc

> > - that makes one question the existence of the layers and try to

convince

> > oneself that they aren't there. All that knowledge takes one

towards Brahma

> > Vidya, but it is not Brahma Vidya. To me, Brahma Vidya is the

knowledge that

> > one obtains after experiencing - not just reading or thinking -

that the

> > layers are not there. That is why Upanishat says that Brahma

Vidya cannot

> > be learnt from books or from teachers and can only be

experienced.

> >

> > > It also means that whatever you might think is blocking the

light, is

> > not

> > > there. It also means the concept of within and without isn't

there.

> > >

> > > I do not wish or mean to give you a sermon on the same. Your

study of

> > Yoga

> > > Vashishtha will reveal the above to you sooner or later.

> >

> > You are going fully non-dual here and totally ignoring duality.

As I

> > pointed out previously, I, Narasimha Rao, would not have

addressed you,

> > Bharat, and sent an email over the internet, if duality was

fiction and did

> > not exist. I speak in dualistic terminology because we are

living and

> > communicating in the world of duality.

> >

> > Even a great rishi who may be in nirvikalpa samadhi for months

in perfect

> > non-duality will start experiencing duality the moment he comes

down from

> > samadhi to start interacting with this material world again.

Only a great

> > rishi in sahaja samadhi can live in this world and yet remain in

non-duality

> > in all the three states (awake, asleep and dreaming). Otherwise,

it is not

> > possible to remain in non-duality in all the three states.

Sahaja samadhi is

> > a rarity even among the greatest of Yogis.

> >

> > > Your study of Yoga Vashishtha will reveal the above to you

sooner or

> > later.

> > > My best wishes for the same

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Anyway, thank you for a nice philosophical discussion. While we

are on the

> > topic of duality, non-duality etc, I want to share an analogy

that was given

> > by my spiritual guru to illustrate the difference between Dwaita

and

> > Adwaita. This analogy can help one understand and appreciate the

difference

> > between various philosophies. It explains how all seemingly

contradictory

> > philosophies are correct in their own right and try to capture

the reality

> > at various levels.

> >

> > Imagine God to be a bright star in the sky. When you see from a

distance,

> > God seems tiny and you conclude that there is only one God. If

you start

> > moving towards God, you realize as you get closer that the star

is in

> > reality a huge diamond with 330 million faces. Each face is

several miles

> > long and wide and has various attributes (gunas). One face may

be red and

> > hot and another may be blue and cold etc. So, as you get closer

to the

> > diamond, you have to pick one face to get close to.

> >

> > Now, when you get too close to a face, the whole world will seem

to have

> > the attributes of that face. For example, if you get too close

to a face

> > that is cold and blue, then the whole world will feel cold and

blue to you.

> > In other words, the God you are getting close to is the Supreme

god of the

> > world and fills the entire world as you experience it.

> >

> > This is the ultimate goal in sadhana for one adhering to Dwaita

siddhanta

> > (duality). For them, getting close to ishta devata and securing

a place near

> > the feet is the highest goal.

> >

> > For some, there is a next stage: As you get closer and closer to

the face

> > you picked, you finally merge with it! This is the ultimate goal

in sadhana

> > for one adhering to Visishtaadwaita.

> >

> > To Advaitis, this communion with a Saguna ( " with attributes " )

form of God

> > is not the final goal. The final goal is to break through the

face and jump

> > into the inside of the diamond. As you break through the face of

the diamond

> > into which you merge and jump into the interior of the diamond,

you no

> > longer perceive the faces of the diamond or the world outside.

There are no

> > longer any objects or attributes. The experiencer, experienced

and

> > experience all merge into one.

> >

> > Some people are quite dogmatic about these philosophies and

unnecessarily

> > fight over them. It is kind of like arguing whether a 100,000

mile

> > marathon is worthier or a 100,100 mile marathon or a 100,200

mile marathon.

> > It is far more important to simply enter one of the three and

finish the

> > marathon entered successfully. Anyone who successfully finishes

any of the

> > three marathons deserves our highest respects.

> >

> > Also, they can be stages in the same path. They don't

necessarily have to

> > be contending paths.

> >

> > For most people, Dwaita philosophy is perhaps the best starting

point

> > anyway.

> >

> > Ok, I will end my rambling now. But I love the above analogy. It

is simple

> > and yet so thoughtful. As you ponder more on it, you will

realize how

> > meaningful it is. So I wanted to share it with you all.

> >

> > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------------

> > > Namaskaar Sri Narasimha

> > >

> > > Yes, the light of Brahman is always shining. Do we only have

to make a

> > wish

> > > for something that IS NOT? Can't we just wish for (or simply

appreciate)

> > > something that IS?

> > >

> > > Wish is something for that isn't or to keep something that is

(in case

> > of

> > > fear of losing the desirable). Brahman IS and ISN'T going to

go away.

> > So a

> > > wish is not possible for the same. There is a beautiful

statement by a

> > > Mahatma that - By giving up the desire of knowing Brahman, one

knows it.

> > >

> > > Well, is Brahma Vidya going to dawn upon us from outside or

from within?

> > > Isn't it already within us? Do we search for it somewhere

outside of us

> > or

> > > do we simply unravel layers of manifested existence and layers

of

> > > accumulated samskaras within ourselves to uncover the Brahma

Vidya that

> > is

> > > already within, but obscured by all those layers? When the

layers are

> > > unravelled and the light of Brahman illuminates every part of

our

> > existence,

> > > isn't that synonymous to the " dawning of Brahma Vidya " ? If

not, what

> > else is

> > > meant by the dawning of Brahma Vidya?

> > >

> > > No, Sri Narasimha, it does not mean the same. Brahma Vidya

means that

> > you

> > > question the existence of the layers and understand that they

aren't

> > there.

> > > It also means that whatever you might think is blocking the

light, is

> > not

> > > there. It also means the concept of within and without isn't

there.

> > >

> > > I do not wish or mean to give you a sermon on the same. Your

study of

> > Yoga

> > > Vashishtha will reveal the above to you sooner or later.

> > >

> > > My best wishes for the same

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > >

> > > On 4/11/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Sri Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > > Just one thought that I have been wanting to convey to

you: The

> > light of

> > > > > Brahman is always shining. In its light, we " see "

thoughts, actions,

> > > > etc.

> > > > > When it is not shining?

> > > >

> > > > Yes, the light of Brahman is always shining. Do we only have

to make a

> > > > wish for something that IS NOT? Can't we just wish for (or

simply

> > > > appreciate) something that IS?

> > > >

> > > > Actually, there is an important point: Though the light of

Brahman is

> > > > shining fully in the innermost core of our existence, the

other layers

> > of

> > > > our existence may be blocking that light. I agree that what

we see,

> > hear,

> > > > think etc is all due to the light of Brahman only. All our

experiences

> > are

> > > > indeed illuminated by the light of Brahman. However, it is

only a

> > small part

> > > > of the light that illuminates our mundane experiences. When

the light

> > of

> > > > Brahman fully illuminates every part of our manifested

existence, I am

> > no

> > > > longer Narasimha Rao and you are no longer Bharat. We both

are one and

> > the

> > > > same and encompass the entire universe. We don't need to be

> > communicating

> > > > through emails.

> > > >

> > > > > So the statement " May the light of Brahman shine

> > > > > within " becomes irrelevant. Wouldn't it be more

appropriate to use -

> > > > " May

> > > > > Brahma Vidya dawns upon each " ? or similar.

> > > >

> > > > Well, is Brahma Vidya going to dawn upon us from outside or

from

> > within?

> > > > Isn't it already within us? Do we search for it somewhere

outside of

> > us or

> > > > do we simply unravel layers of manifested existence and

layers of

> > > > accumulated samskaras within ourselves to uncover the Brahma

Vidya

> > that is

> > > > already within, but obscured by all those layers? When the

layers are

> > > > unravelled and the light of Brahman illuminates every part

of our

> > existence,

> > > > isn't that synonymous to the " dawning of Brahma Vidya " ? If

not, what

> > else is

> > > > meant by the dawning of Brahma Vidya?

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for a non-astrological mail, but, if I remember right,

sohamsa

> > list

> > > > was originally meant for spiritual discussions as well.

> > > >

> > > > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar Sri Narasimha

> > > > >

> > > > > Very nice remarks about Prasada Buddhi and the way they

have been

> > > > conveyed

> > > > > to your Jyotisha Guru. Non-acceptance is the cause of

stress.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just one thought that I have been wanting to convey to

you: The

> > light of

> > > > > Brahman is always shining. In its light, we " see "

thoughts, actions,

> > > > etc.

> > > > > When it is not shining? So the statement " May the light

of Brahman

> > > > shine

> > > > > within " becomes irrelevant. Wouldn't it be more

appropriate to use -

> > > > " May

> > > > > Brahma Vidya dawns upon each " ? or similar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > > On 4/6/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There has been a discussion on Sanjay's health. Here are

my two

> > cents.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sanjay is running Cancer's dasa as per Paryaya dasa of D-

6. Cancer

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > 8th house and contains Moon and roga pada (A6) as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The results of Moon in marana karaka sthana are given in

the

> > middle

> > > > > > one-third. That itself was not such a good period,

barring some

> > parts.

> > > > > > However, the final one-third (2003-2007) gives the

results of 8th

> > > > house and

> > > > > > A6 fully and THAT is the worst period. With the planet

involved

> > being

> > > > Moon,

> > > > > > no wonder it is blood pressure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am glad there is some improvement lately, but Sanjay

should

> > remain

> > > > > > careful until Aug 2007. I see the problematic period

ending only

> > then.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sanjay should be extra careful during 2006 May 18-June 8

and just

> > take

> > > > > > everything easy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In general, everyone should strive to enter the state

where there

> > are

> > > > > > absolutely no expectations and there is only detached

effort. Then

> > > > alone can

> > > > > > one overcome stress. If we have a specific goal or

expectation and

> > our

> > > > > > efforts are motivated by it, it MAY lead to stress. Nay,

it often

> > DOES

> > > > lead

> > > > > > to stress. On the other hand, if we start believing that

there is

> > no

> > > > > > one-to-one relationship between our current efforts

(karma) and

> > > > results

> > > > > > (phala) and hence engage in actions (karma) - not

motivated by

> > logical

> > > > > > analysis based on an specific expectations, but based

solely on

> > the

> > > > inner

> > > > > > guidance - without any motivation and accept all fruits

(phala)

> > > > without

> > > > > > prejudice, there is no scope for stress. Such attitude

releases

> > amrita

> > > > - the

> > > > > > nectar of divinity - within.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The main problem of living beings is their mind. But,

curiously,

> > it is

> > > > the

> > > > > > solution too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry if this sounds like sermonizing. It wasn't meant

to. Just my

> > two

> > > > > > cents of random thoughts...please ignore if they make no

sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May the light of Brahman shine within, Narasimha

> > > > > > ------------------------

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> >

> > *tat savitur varenyam*

> >

> >

> >

> >