Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hare Rama Krsna Ajit, please share: " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are chanted while offering each individual substance. " I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. Namah Sivaya Visti Larsen [visti] Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Hare Rama Krsna Dear ajit, Namaskar. Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? Best wishes, Visti Larsen. sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan@g...> wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and mixed thus > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or other > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form panchamrita. There > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual dravyas prior > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are chanted > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas are > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's previously in the > thread. i.e. > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani (based on > puranas) > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > ajit > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Visti Larsen > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > I'm back. > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when i was in > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to Shiva as being > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in her email. He > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and mixed thus > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as prasad. I > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of Shiva, and this > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the five > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva perfectly > strong. > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please confirm or > broaden our understanding. > > > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > 02 December 2005 09:48 > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu tattwa. I have > never seen the > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware of the > mapping. I am hoping > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha worship occurs > in two places: in the > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha shiva puja > where water is offered. > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > ajit > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Visti Larsen > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi tattva. Please > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the Jyotish > Digest? > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads of shiva? > Which head gets milk for example? > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > 01 December 2005 13:14 > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > Water > > Milk > > Ghee > > Honey > > Curd > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > _____ > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > sohamsa > Five offerings > > |JAI SRIRAM| > Dear Members, > > What are all the five offerings to Lord Shiva to > appease pancha tatwas? > > Thanks, > S.Venkatesh > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > _____ > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa <sohamsa> " > on the web. > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dear Freedom, I have only ever observed the invocation of the devatas into the panchamritas. IIRC, the 5 vedas (4 + itihAsa (mahabharata)) and their presiding devatas are invoked into the five dravyas. Regarding the mantras, there are plenty of different traditions. Here is one such list of the mantra’s pratika-s given by Sri Giridhara Shastri. They are commonly used by Krishna Yajur Vedins. milk: sam te payaamsi . . . (or ApyAyasva .. . . ) curd: dadhikraavanno . . . ghee: shukramasi . . . (or ghR^itam mimikshire . . . . ) honey: madhu vAtA . . . . sugar: svaaduH pavasva . . . ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of freedom Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:25 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Hare Rama Krsna Ajit, please share: " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are chanted while offering each individual substance. " I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. Namah Sivaya Visti Larsen [visti] Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Hare Rama Krsna Dear ajit, Namaskar. Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? Best wishes, Visti Larsen. sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan@g...> wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and mixed thus > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or other > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form panchamrita. There > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual dravyas prior > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are chanted > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas are > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's previously in the > thread. i.e. > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani (based on > puranas) > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Visti Larsen > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > I'm back. > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when i was in > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to Shiva as being > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in her email. He > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and mixed thus > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as prasad. I > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of Shiva, and this > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the five > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva perfectly > strong. > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please confirm or > broaden our understanding. > > > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > 02 December 2005 09:48 > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu tattwa. I have > never seen the > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware of the > mapping. I am hoping > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha worship occurs > in two places: in the > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha shiva puja > where water is offered. > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > ajit > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Visti Larsen > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi tattva. Please > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the Jyotish > Digest? > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads of shiva? > Which head gets milk for example? > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > 01 December 2005 13:14 > sohamsa > RE: Five offerings > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > Water > > Milk > > Ghee > > Honey > > Curd > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > sohamsa > Five offerings > > |JAI SRIRAM| > Dear Members, > > What are all the five offerings to Lord Shiva to > appease pancha tatwas? > > Thanks, > S.Venkatesh > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > _____ > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa <sohamsa> " > on the web. > > * To from this group, send an email to: > sohamsa- > <sohamsa- ?subject=Un> > > * Your use of is subject to the > <> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > *tat savitur varenyam* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dear Swee, > I don't know if there are different shlokas They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a few typos. There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam .. payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam ... ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Friends, I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for Shiva worship. with milk ---------- apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami With curd --------- dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami With ghee ---------- shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami With honey ---------- madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami With sugar ---------- svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that Milk – Jala Curd - Vaayu Ghee - Agni Honey - Akasha Sugar - Prithvi My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey which is gathered from flowers. Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> wrote: > > Dear members, > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > blog. > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > CURD-BATH VERSE > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > verse. > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > (Ghee) for further bath. > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > reciting the verse as follows : > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > Abhisheka. > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > Student Always, > Souvik > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > individual > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > mantras which > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > well? > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > other > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > panchamrita. > > There > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > dravyas prior > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > chanted > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > are > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > previously in the > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > (based on > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Visti Larsen > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > i > > was in > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > Shiva as > > being > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > her > > email. He > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > mixed thus > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > prasad. I > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > Shiva, > > and this > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > five > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > perfectly > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > confirm or > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > tattwa. > > I have > > > never seen the > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > of the > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > worship > > occurs > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > shiva puja > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Visti Larsen > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > tattva. > > Please > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > Jyotish > > > Digest? > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > of shiva? > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > sohamsa > > > Five offerings > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > Shiva to > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > <sohamsa> " > > > on the web. > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email to: > > > sohamsa- > > > <sohamsa- ?subject=Un> > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ajit, Namaste I agree, they are different mantras. But you’ve addressed this to me instead of Lakshmi K Perhaps I should try and look up the Shiva Purana this weekend and chip in my bit of the swaras et al. Nice you’re thinking about me though J. Have you had the new panchanga up yet? Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:08 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee, > I don't know if there are different shlokas They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a few typos. There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Friends, I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for Shiva worship. with milk ---------- apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami With curd --------- dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami With ghee ---------- shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami With honey ---------- madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami With sugar ---------- svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that Milk – Jala Curd - Vaayu Ghee - Agni Honey - Akasha Sugar - Prithvi My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey which is gathered from flowers. Regards, Lakshmi --- In sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> wrote: > > Dear members, > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > blog. > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > CURD-BATH VERSE > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > verse. > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > (Ghee) for further bath. > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > reciting the verse as follows : > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > Abhisheka. > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > Student Always, > Souvik > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > individual > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > mantras which > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > well? > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > other > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > panchamrita. > > There > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > dravyas prior > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > chanted > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > are > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > previously in the > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > (based on > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Visti Larsen > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > i > > was in > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > Shiva as > > being > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > her > > email. He > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > mixed thus > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > prasad. I > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > Shiva, > > and this > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > five > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > perfectly > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > confirm or > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > tattwa. > > I have > > > never seen the > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > of the > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > worship > > occurs > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > shiva puja > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of > > > Visti Larsen > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > tattva. > > Please > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > Jyotish > > > Digest? > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > of shiva? > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > sohamsa > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > sohamsa > > > Five offerings > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > Shiva to > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > <sohamsa> " > > > on the web. > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lakshmi Ramesh :-)), Ajit, Namaste The 5 deities of Siva are Aditya, Ganesh, Durga, Rudra and Visnu in order.(Siva Purana Chapter 25). How would be relate the pachamrita to them? The mantras allotted to each offering are vedic mantras. I am sure one can get a copy of this from any Temple (esp. in India). Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:39 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, They are talking of the five heads of Shiva, which have the following names: Ishana, Tatpurusha, Aghora, Vamadeva and Sadyojata. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:04 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Jaya JagannathaDear Lakshmi Ramesh :-)), Ajit,NamasteThe 5 deities of Siva are Aditya, Ganesh, Durga, Rudra and Visnu inorder.(Siva Purana Chapter 25).How would be relate the pachamrita to them? The mantras allotted to each offering are vedic mantras. I am sure one canget a copy of this from any Temple (esp. in India).Love,Sweesohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf OfB Lakshmi RameshThursday, February 02, 2006 12:39 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Five offerings to ShivaOm Gurave NamahNamaste Ajit,Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanksto Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not LakshmiRamesh.:--)):--))Regards,Lakshmi sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" <ajit.krishnan wrote:>> Dear Swee,> > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas> > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas.> However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have> swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glanceshows a> few typos.> > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is:> > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam .> > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam ..> > > > ajit> > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] OnBehalf Of> B Lakshmi Ramesh> Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM> sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Friends,> > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for> Shiva worship.> > > with milk> ----------> apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami> > With curd> ---------> > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH> surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami> > With ghee> ----------> > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa> tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami> > With honey> ----------> > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH> maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH> madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naHpitaa> madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavobhavantu naH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami> > With sugar> ----------> > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane> svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne> svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave> brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami> > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala> > Curd - Vaayu> > Ghee - Agni> > Honey - Akasha> > Sugar - Prithvi> > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is> jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered> painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour,> sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is> yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees> (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the> honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey> which is gathered from flowers.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan>> wrote:> >> > Dear members,> > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following:> > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH> > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse:> > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara.> > CURD-BATH VERSE> > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse.> > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam.> > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE> > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath.> > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar.> > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE> > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath.> > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar.> > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE> > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows :> > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey.> > > > Thus, finalizing the order to:> > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya> > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk> > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd> > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee> > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey> > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar> > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka.> > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same.> > > > Student Always, > > Souvik> > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com> > > > > > sohamsa , "freedom" <freedom@s...> wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > Ajit, please share:> > > > > > "There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual> > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which> > > are chanted while offering each individual substance."> > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself.> > > > > > Namah Sivaya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM> > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > Dear ajit, Namaskar.> > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well?> > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly.> > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to?> > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen.> > > > > > sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" > > <ajit.krishnan@g...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and> > > mixed thus> > > > becoming Panchamrita.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other> > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita.> > > There> > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual> > > dravyas prior> > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are> > > chanted> > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are> > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's> > > previously in the> > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya> > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk> > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd> > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee> > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey> > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known> > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani> > > (based on> > > > puranas)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > Behalf Of> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar> > > > > > > > I'm back.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i> > > was in> > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as> > > being> > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her> > > email. He> > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus> > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I> > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva,> > > and this> > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five> > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly> > > > strong.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please> > > confirm or> > > > broaden our understanding.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa.> > > I have> > > > never seen the> > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the> > > > mapping. I am hoping> > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship> > > occurs> > > > in two places: in the> > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha> > > shiva puja> > > > where water is offered.> > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > Behalf Of> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar> > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva.> > > Please> > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish> > > > Digest?> > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva?> > > > Which head gets milk for example?> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water> > > > > > > > Milk> > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey> > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM> > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings> > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to> > > > appease pancha tatwas?> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > S.Venkatesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sohamsa > > <sohamsa> "> > > > on the web.> > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar Please, i know that you are a great devotee of Shiva, please share with us the way you worship the Shiva linga. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar 02 February 2006 12:04 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, They are talking of the five heads of Shiva, which have the following names: Ishana, Tatpurusha, Aghora, Vamadeva and Sadyojata. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:04 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lakshmi Ramesh :-)), Ajit, Namaste The 5 deities of Siva are Aditya, Ganesh, Durga, Rudra and Visnu in order.(Siva Purana Chapter 25). How would be relate the pachamrita to them? The mantras allotted to each offering are vedic mantras. I am sure one can get a copy of this from any Temple (esp. in India). Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:39 AM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam .. > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Lakshmi, Something tells me that I will be visiting there very soon! Best Regards, Sarbani B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:23 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave NamahDear Sarbani,Around 60kms from Tirupati, there is a place called Surutpalli, whereShiva is worshipped as "Tatpurusha". Here Lord Shiva can be seen lyingin a swoon on the lap of Mother Sarva Mangala, after consuminghalahala during ksheera sagara mathanam. I don't think you can seethis form anywhere else. It's around 14kms from Nagalapuram, which has perhaps the onlyMatsyavatara temple in the world, and Lord Vishnu was supposed to havekilled somaka at this place. Regards,Lakshmisohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Swee,> > They are talking of the five heads of Shiva, which have thefollowing names:> Ishana, Tatpurusha, Aghora, Vamadeva and Sadyojata.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > > > _____ > > Swee Chan [swee] > Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:04 PM> sohamsa > RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Lakshmi Ramesh :-)), Ajit,> Namaste> > The 5 deities of Siva are Aditya, Ganesh, Durga, Rudra and Visnu in> order.(Siva Purana Chapter 25).> How would be relate the pachamrita to them? > > The mantras allotted to each offering are vedic mantras. I am sureone can> get a copy of this from any Temple (esp. in India).> > Love,> Swee> > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] OnBehalf Of> B Lakshmi Ramesh> Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:39 AM> sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Ajit,> > Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks> to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi> Ramesh.:--))> > :--))> > Regards,> Lakshmi > > > sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" <ajit.krishnan@> wrote:> >> > Dear Swee,> > > > > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas> > > > > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas.> > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedaswhich have> > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance> shows a> > few typos.> > > > > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is:> > > > > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam .> > > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam ..> > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> Behalf Of> > B Lakshmi Ramesh> > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM> > sohamsa > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Friends,> > > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for> > Shiva worship.> > > > > > with milk> > ----------> > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe> > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami> > > > With curd> > ---------> > > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH> > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat> > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami> > > > With ghee> > ----------> > > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa> > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH> > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami> > > > With honey> > ----------> > > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH> > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH> > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH> pitaa> > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo> bhavantu naH> > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami> > > > With sugar> > ----------> > > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane> > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne> > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave> > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH> > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami> > > > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > > > > Milk - Jala> > > > Curd - Vaayu> > > > Ghee - Agni> > > > Honey - Akasha> > > > Sugar - Prithvi> > > > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is> > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered> > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour,> > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is> > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees> > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the> > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey> > which is gathered from flowers.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear members,> > > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > > blog. > > > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following:> > > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH> > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse:> > > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara.> > > CURD-BATH VERSE> > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > > verse.> > > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam.> > > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE> > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > > (Ghee) for further bath.> > > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar.> > > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE> > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, adevotee > > > is to offer Honey for taking bath.> > > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar.> > > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE> > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > > reciting the verse as follows :> > > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey.> > > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to:> > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya> > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk> > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd> > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee> > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey> > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar> > > > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > > Abhisheka.> > > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > > worship, please do educate me on the same.> > > > > > Student Always, > > > Souvik> > > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "freedom" <freedom@s...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > > > Ajit, please share:> > > > > > > > "There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > > individual> > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > > mantras which> > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance."> > > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself.> > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM> > > > sohamsa > > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar.> > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > > well?> > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly.> > > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to?> > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen.> > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" > > > <ajit.krishnan@g...>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in abowel and> > > > mixed thus> > > > > becoming Panchamrita.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga(or > > > other> > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > > panchamrita.> > > > There> > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual> > > > dravyas prior> > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantraswhich are> > > > chanted> > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, thedravyas > > > are> > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditionalway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's> > > > previously in the> > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya> > > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk> > > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd> > > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee> > > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey> > > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known> > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani> > > > (based on> > > > > puranas)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > > Behalf Of> > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > I'm back.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja:when > > > i> > > > was in> > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > > Shiva as> > > > being> > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > > her> > > > email. He> > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus> > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > > prasad. I> > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > > Shiva,> > > > and this> > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > > five> > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > > perfectly> > > > > strong.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please> > > > confirm or> > > > > broaden our understanding.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > > tattwa.> > > > I have> > > > > never seen the> > > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am notaware > > > of the> > > > > mapping. I am hoping> > > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > > worship> > > > occurs> > > > > in two places: in the> > > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha> > > > shiva puja> > > > > where water is offered.> > > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > > Behalf Of> > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > > tattva.> > > > Please> > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > > Jyotish> > > > > Digest?> > > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > > of shiva?> > > > > Which head gets milk for example?> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water> > > > > > > > > > Milk> > > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > > > Honey> > > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > > Shiva to> > > > > appease pancha tatwas?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > S.Venkatesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sohamsa > > > <sohamsa> "> > > > > on the web.> > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Smt. Lakshmi, Namaste That's what I was referring to and it also includes the 6th essence. The fifth face (pancha mukhi) upwards goes from Sadyojaata to Ishaana - Siva Purana; Kailasa Samhita, Chapter 14. Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:22 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Dear Swee, Yes, that set of 5 deities constitutes Shiva panchayatanam. Ajit has a lovely write up on panchayatana puja on his website. In the Shiva panchayatnam at our home, we have Naaga (subrahmanya) too. I think both panchayatana pooja and panchamrita abhishekam aim at trikarana shuddhi, which embraces all karma and jnaana indriyas + manah and subsequent elevation/dissociation of self from the elements. And, when that amrita abhisheka/cleansing happens all the time, One is indeed Shiva, the ultimate yogi. Regards, Lakshmi P.S: My son is better, thank you, but is still weak. sohamsa , " Swee Chan " <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Lakshmi Ramesh :-)), Ajit, > Namaste > > The 5 deities of Siva are Aditya, Ganesh, Durga, Rudra and Visnu in > order.(Siva Purana Chapter 25). > How would be relate the pachamrita to them? > > The mantras allotted to each offering are vedic mantras. I am sure one can > get a copy of this from any Temple (esp. in India). > > Love, > Swee > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:39 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Ajit, > > Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks > to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi > Ramesh.:--)) > > :--)) > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance > shows a > > few typos. > > > > > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > B Lakshmi Ramesh > > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Friends, > > > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > > Shiva worship. > > > > > > with milk > > ---------- > > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > > > With curd > > --------- > > > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > > > With ghee > > ---------- > > > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > > > With honey > > ---------- > > > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH > pitaa > > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo > bhavantu naH > > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > > > With sugar > > ---------- > > > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > > > > Milk - Jala > > > > Curd - Vaayu > > > > Ghee - Agni > > > > Honey - Akasha > > > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > > which is gathered from flowers. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > > blog. > > > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > > verse. > > > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > > Abhisheka. > > > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > > > Student Always, > > > Souvik > > > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > > individual > > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > > mantras which > > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > > well? > > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > > mixed thus > > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > > other > > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > > panchamrita. > > > > There > > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > > dravyas prior > > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > > chanted > > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > > are > > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > > previously in the > > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > > (based on > > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > > i > > > > was in > > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > > Shiva as > > > > being > > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > > her > > > > email. He > > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > > prasad. I > > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > > Shiva, > > > > and this > > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > > five > > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > > perfectly > > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > > confirm or > > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > > tattwa. > > > > I have > > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > > of the > > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > > worship > > > > occurs > > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > > shiva puja > > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > > tattva. > > > > Please > > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > > Jyotish > > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > > of shiva? > > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > > Shiva to > > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > > <sohamsa> " > > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat .. iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat ... ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Excellent, thanx. So the order is: Dravya Translation Mukha & Mantra Payo Milk Om Ishaanaaya Namah Dadhi Curd Om Tatpurushaaya Namah Ghrita Ghee Om Aghoraaya Namah Kshaudra Honey Om Vamadevaaya Namah Shakaraadyair Sugar Om Sadyojataaya Namah A Sunday of Krishna Chaturdasi is coming up, which will be a very good time to start such pujas to Shiva. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 08:26 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat .. iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, The mantra I learnt was Om Haum...Namah. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti] Friday, February 03, 2006 4:24 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Excellent, thanx. So the order is: Dravya Translation Mukha & Mantra Payo Milk Om Ishaanaaya Namah Dadhi Curd Om Tatpurushaaya Namah Ghrita Ghee Om Aghoraaya Namah Kshaudra Honey Om Vamadevaaya Namah Shakaraadyair Sugar Om Sadyojataaya Namah A Sunday of Krishna Chaturdasi is coming up, which will be a very good time to start such pujas to Shiva. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan03 February 2006 08:26sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well?> Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat . iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi RameshWednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave NamahNamaste Ajit,Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanksto Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not LakshmiRamesh.:--)):--))Regards,Lakshmi sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" <ajit.krishnan wrote:>> Dear Swee,> > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas> > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas.> However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have> swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glanceshows a> few typos.> > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is:> > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam .> > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam ..> > > > ajit> > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] OnBehalf Of> B Lakshmi Ramesh> Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM> sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Friends,> > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for> Shiva worship.> > > with milk> ----------> apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami> > With curd> ---------> > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH> surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami> > With ghee> ----------> > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa> tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami> > With honey> ----------> > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH> maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH> madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naHpitaa> madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavobhavantu naH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami> > With sugar> ----------> > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane> svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne> svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave> brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH> sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami> > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala> > Curd - Vaayu> > Ghee - Agni> > Honey - Akasha> > Sugar - Prithvi> > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is> jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered> painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour,> sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is> yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees> (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the> honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey> which is gathered from flowers.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan>> wrote:> >> > Dear members,> > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following:> > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH> > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse:> > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara.> > CURD-BATH VERSE> > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse.> > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam.> > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE> > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath.> > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar.> > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE> > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath.> > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar.> > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE> > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows :> > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey.> > > > Thus, finalizing the order to:> > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya> > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk> > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd> > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee> > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey> > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar> > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka.> > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same.> > > > Student Always, > > Souvik> > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com> > > > > > sohamsa , "freedom" <freedom@s...> wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > > > Ajit, please share:> > > > > > "There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual> > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which> > > are chanted while offering each individual substance."> > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself.> > > > > > Namah Sivaya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM> > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > Dear ajit, Namaskar.> > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well?> > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly.> > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to?> > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen.> > > > > > sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" > > <ajit.krishnan@g...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and> > > mixed thus> > > > becoming Panchamrita.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other> > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita.> > > There> > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual> > > dravyas prior> > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are> > > chanted> > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are> > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's> > > previously in the> > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya> > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk> > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd> > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee> > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey> > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known> > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani> > > (based on> > > > puranas)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > Behalf Of> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar> > > > > > > > I'm back.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i> > > was in> > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as> > > being> > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her> > > email. He> > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus> > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I> > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva,> > > and this> > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five> > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly> > > > strong.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be:> > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu> > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni> > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi> > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala> > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please> > > confirm or> > > > broaden our understanding.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa.> > > I have> > > > never seen the> > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the> > > > mapping. I am hoping> > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship> > > occurs> > > > in two places: in the> > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha> > > shiva puja> > > > where water is offered.> > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On> > > Behalf Of> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar> > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva.> > > Please> > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish> > > > Digest?> > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva?> > > > Which head gets milk for example?> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com>> > > > http://astrovisti.com> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14> > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water> > > > > > > > Milk> > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey> > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM> > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings> > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM|> > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to> > > > appease pancha tatwas?> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > S.Venkatesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sohamsa > > <sohamsa> "> > > > on the web.> > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dear Visti, If a Sunday Krishna Chaturdashi is coming up, you will likely have a Shani Pradosham on the previous day. Why do you prefer Masa-Shivaratri over Pradosham for starting such pujas? ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, February 03, 2006 2:54 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Excellent, thanx. So the order is: Dravya Translation Mukha & Mantra Payo Milk Om Ishaanaaya Namah Dadhi Curd Om Tatpurushaaya Namah Ghrita Ghee Om Aghoraaya Namah Kshaudra Honey Om Vamadevaaya Namah Shakaraadyair Sugar Om Sadyojataaya Namah A Sunday of Krishna Chaturdasi is coming up, which will be a very good time to start such pujas to Shiva. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 08:26 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat .. iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi --- In sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Because of the Kalachakra directions. Sun (Shiva) is the one who can overcome the ‘wrong’ desire of kaama devata. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 17:34 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Visti, If a Sunday Krishna Chaturdashi is coming up, you will likely have a Shani Pradosham on the previous day. Why do you prefer Masa-Shivaratri over Pradosham for starting such pujas? ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, February 03, 2006 2:54 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Excellent, thanx. So the order is: Dravya Translation Mukha & Mantra Payo Milk Om Ishaanaaya Namah Dadhi Curd Om Tatpurushaaya Namah Ghrita Ghee Om Aghoraaya Namah Kshaudra Honey Om Vamadevaaya Namah Shakaraadyair Sugar Om Sadyojataaya Namah A Sunday of Krishna Chaturdasi is coming up, which will be a very good time to start such pujas to Shiva. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 08:26 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat .. iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > " There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance. " > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Visti, Namaste. If you choose the Hora of Guru (around 17hrs 45mts) on Friday 10th, 2006 when Trayodashi rules don't you feel it would help you? By the way Trayodashi ruled by Guru may be considered, as Pradosha period can remove all doshas including ignorance. i think you are running the period of Guru in Rahu dasha as per vimsottari scheme and that Rahu is placed in Marana Karaka Sthana in 9th house. You are aware that Guru is the Karaka for that House. Don't you feel it is better to worship/request the Lord to forgive/seek His blessingsduring Pradosha time? Even the evil effects of Venus if found placed(if that may worry you) in 6th in Rudramsa can be removed during the Pradosha period. You need not worry if you do not have the idols required for Panchayuthana puja. i shall list the samagri already available, rather given to us by the Lord, below. 1.Ears - Ganapathi 2.Eyes - Surya 3.Nose - Siva 4.Mouth - Sakthi 5.Body - Visnu Sankara did establish the sixth one known as Skanda. This is directly related to Kundalini. Let us regroup these: 1.Lagna - 9th - Visnu (Sarvam Visnu mayam Jagat - OM VISHNAVE NAMA)) 2.2nd - 10th - Surya (chaksho Sooryo ... OM TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM ...) 3.3rd - 11th - Ganapathi(Vignesha - remover of obstacles - OM GANESHAYA NAMA)) 4.4th - 12th - Siva (OM SIVAAYA NAMA) 5. 5th - lagna - Sakthi (OM MAATRE NAMA) 6. 6th - 7th - 8th - Hidden - Kundalini - Skanda Only those few who are absolutely clean can keep the 6th, 7th and 8th houses clean at the time of exit/death. In fact they may choose the time of death(iccha mrtyu). As per the principles of Nyaasa if you are able to feel the presence of the divinity in these parts, even ordinary bathing of yours will tantamount to abhisheka. By repeated nyaasa a day will dawn when that bliss of being part of the Lord/Divinity will flower. Sivoham. May Mother Bless. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Visti Larsen <visti wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Because of the Kalachakra directions. Sun (Shiva) is the one who can overcome the ‘wrong’ desire of kaama devata. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 17:34 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Visti, If a Sunday Krishna Chaturdashi is coming up, you will likely have a Shani Pradosham on the previous day. Why do you prefer Masa-Shivaratri over Pradosham for starting such pujas? ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, February 03, 2006 2:54 AM sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ajit, Namaskar Excellent, thanx. So the order is: Dravya Translation Mukha & Mantra Payo Milk Om Ishaanaaya Namah Dadhi Curd Om Tatpurushaaya Namah Ghrita Ghee Om Aghoraaya Namah Kshaudra Honey Om Vamadevaaya Namah Shakaraadyair Sugar Om Sadyojataaya Namah A Sunday of Krishna Chaturdasi is coming up, which will be a very good time to start such pujas to Shiva. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ajit Krishnan 03 February 2006 08:26 sohamsa RE: Re: Five offerings to Shiva Dear Swee and Lakshmi, Sorry for mixing up the names :-) Visti wrote: > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as well? > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? I did some more reading. Here’s an answer from smriti-ratna: payo-dadhi-ghR^ita-kshaudra-sharkaraadyair-anukramaat . iishaadi-mantraih samsnaapya shiva-muktim-avaapnuyaat .. ajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of B Lakshmi Ramesh Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:39 PM sohamsa Re: Five offerings to Shiva Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, Thanks for the clarification, though you addressed it to Swee!! Thanks to Swee also for thinking that I am Lakshmi K. and not Lakshmi Ramesh.:--)) :--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" <ajit.krishnan wrote: > > Dear Swee, > > > > > I don't know if there are different shlokas > > > > They are commonly used for the panchamrita-abhisheka of all the devas. > However, they are not slokas. They are mantras from the vedas which have > swara, and must be learned properly. Incidentally, a quick glance shows a > few typos. > > > > There are plenty of shlokas that can be used by all of us. > > For the milk-abhisheka of Sri Satyanarayana, one such verse is: > > > > kaama-dhenu-samudbhuutam devarShi-pitR^i-tR^iptidam . > > payo dadaami devesha snaanaartham prati-gR^ihyataam .. > > > > ajit > > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > B Lakshmi Ramesh > Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:13 AM > sohamsa > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Friends, > > I found the following lines in panchamrita abhisheka of Lakshmi & > Satya narayana pooja.I don't know if there are different shlokas for > Shiva worship. > > > with milk > ---------- > apyaayasva sametu te viswathassomavrishNiyam bhavaa vaajasya sangadhe > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah ksheereNa snapayaami > > With curd > --------- > > dadhikraavNo akaarisham jishNorasvasya vaajinaH > surabhino mukhaakaratpraNa ayoogmshitaarishat > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah dadhnaa snapayaami > > With ghee > ---------- > > shukramasi jyotirasi tejosi devovassavitotpunaa > tvachhitdreNa pavithreNa vaso sooryasya rashmibhiH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah aajyena snapayaami > > With honey > ---------- > > madhuvaataa ritaayate madhu ksharanti sindhavaH > maadhviirnassannthvoshadhiiH > madhu nakta muthoshasi madhumatpaarthivagm rajaH madhudyaurastu naH pitaa > madhumaanno vanaspatirmadhumaagm astu sooryaH maadhviirgaavo bhavantu naH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah madhunaa snapayaami > > With sugar > ---------- > > svaaduH pavasya divyaaya janmane > svaadurindraaya suhaveetu naamne > svaadurmitraaya varuNaaya vaayave > brihaspathaye madhumaam adaabhyaH > sri mahalakshmi mahaadevyainamah sharkarayaa snapayaami > > > As for mapping the pancha dravyas to pancha bhootas, I feel that > > > Milk - Jala > > Curd - Vaayu > > Ghee - Agni > > Honey - Akasha > > Sugar - Prithvi > > > My reasoning is that milk is synonymous with Mother/Moon, hence is > jala tattwa. Honey is akin to wealth/wisdom, which is gathered > painstakingly over a period of time. Apart from this, it's colour, > sweetness, natural immunity etc point more to Jupiter. Honey is > yielded only after killing / chasing away the bees > (selfishness/avarice/material desires) and by straining/squeezing the > honeycomb (body). As flowers are linked to akasa tattwa, so is honey > which is gathered from flowers. > > Regards, > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > This is a great discussion and would be a great article on my > > blog. > > > > Anyway, according to my limited knowledge I found the following: > > > > COW MILK OFFERING FOR BATH > > With a deep feeling that the Great Lord, who destroyed the three > > cities has sipped the palmpit water, he should be offered to have > > cow-milk for bath by reciting the following verse: > > > > Madhuram Gopaya: Punyam, Patapootam Puraskritam. > > Snaanaarth Deyva deyveysh, Grihaan parmeyshwara. > > CURD-BATH VERSE > > With the assumption that the cow-milk presented for bath has been > > accepted, curd for same purpose shall be offered, reciting this > > verse. > > > > Durlabhamdivya Suswaadu Dadhi sarv priyamparam. > > Tushti dampaarwateenaath, Snaanaaya pratigrihyataam. > > > > GHEE (BUTTER-OIL) BATH VERSE > > When this act is over, and it has been felt that Paarwateenath has > > taken bath in curd, he is required to have the offer of butter-oil > > (Ghee) for further bath. > > > > Ghritam gavyam shuchirasnigdham, Suseyayam pushtidaayakam. > > Grihaan Girijaanaath, Snaanaaya Chandrasheykhar. > > > > HONEY-BATH VERSE > > Feeling as such that Lord Maheswar has taken bath in Ghee, a devotee > > is to offer Honey for taking bath. > > > > Madhuram mridumohaghnam, Swarabhang vinaashanam. > > Mahaadeyvey Dumutsristam, Tavasnaanaya Shankar. > > > > SUGAR-BATH VERSE > > After Madhusnaam (Honey-bath) the Lord is to be offered sugar by > > reciting the verse as follows : > > > > Taapashaantimkaree sheera, Madhuraa swaad sanyuntaa. > > Snaanaarth deyvadeyveysh, Sharkareyvam Pradeeyatey. > > > > Thus, finalizing the order to: > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - Curd > > > > Agni - Aghora - Ghee > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Honey > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Sugar > > > > > > However, this is not it. In Ekadasa-Rudra Abhisheka, every Rudra is > > chanted with distinctive articles for Abhisheka. Ganga water, milk, > > ghee, honey, rose-water, cocoanut water, sandal paste, Panchamrita, > > scented oil, sugarcane juice and lime juice are made use of for > > Abhisheka. > > > > However, there may be other mantras that I am not aware of. If > > anyone is aware of any other mantras used during panchamrita > > worship, please do educate me on the same. > > > > Student Always, > > Souvik > > > > http://satyamshivamsundaram.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , "freedom" <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > Ajit, please share: > > > > > > "There are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 > > individual > > > dravyas prior to the offering, and there are particular vedic > > mantras which > > > are chanted while offering each individual substance." > > > > > > I'm sure specifics would be appreciated by many, including myself. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:30 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear ajit, Namaskar. > > > Is the order from Ishaana to Sadyojata the order of offering as > > well? > > > I would like to know so that i can also do this propperly. > > > > > > Also, which list of dravyas should i stick to? > > > > > > Best wishes, Visti Larsen. > > > > > > sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" > > <ajit.krishnan@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these substances are offered separately to the linga (or > > other > > > > murti), and the run-off is collected and mixed to form > > panchamrita. > > > There > > > > are particular devatas which are invoked into the 5 individual > > > dravyas prior > > > > to the offering, and there are particular vedic mantras which are > > > chanted > > > > while offering each individual substance. Sometimes, the dravyas > > are > > > > pre-mixed and then offered, but this is not the traditional way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The order above seems to be quite different from the one's > > > previously in the > > > > thread. i.e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tattwa - Mukha - Dravya - Dravya > > > > > > > > Akasha - Ishana - Milk - Milk > > > > > > > > Vayu - Tatpurusha - - Curd > > > > > > > > Agni - Aghora - Curd - Ghee > > > > > > > > Apa - Vamadeva - Ghee - Honey > > > > > > > > Prithivi - Sadyojata - Honey - Sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (a) and (b) is well known > > > > > > > > Correspondence between columns (b) and © was given by Sarbani > > > (based on > > > > puranas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, water is not usually considered a part of panchamrita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:16 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings to Shiva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit and Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I'm back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of this discussion on the Shiva linga puja: when > > i > > > was in > > > > Rishikesh a shopkeeper explained that the five offerings to > > Shiva as > > > being > > > > Water, Milk, Ghee, Honey and Curd, as Sarbani had described in > > her > > > email. He > > > > further explained that this was to be offered in a bowel and > > mixed thus > > > > becoming Panchamrita. This is offered and then distributed as > > prasad. I > > > > found a similar description on the shreemaa.org site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani described that this is related to the five heads of > > Shiva, > > > and this > > > > to me makes perfect sense, as the five heads of Shiva are the > > five > > > > mahapurusha yogas, which when strengthened, makes one tattva > > perfectly > > > > strong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now can you just confirm the order as given by you to be: > > > > > > > > Water - Tatpurusha Vayu > > > > > > > > Milk - Aghora Agni > > > > > > > > Ghee - Sadyojata Prithvi > > > > > > > > Honey - Vamadeva Jala > > > > > > > > Curd - Ishana Akasha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would have associated Honey with Agni in this list, so please > > > confirm or > > > > broaden our understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Ajit Krishnan [ajit.krishnan@g...] > > > > 02 December 2005 09:48 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sarbani, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.mudgala.com/articles/panchayatana.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for catching the typo. Tatpurusha corresponds to vayu > > tattwa. > > > I have > > > > never seen the > > > > > > > > pancha-mukhas worshipped with specific dravyas, and am not aware > > of the > > > > mapping. I am hoping > > > > > > > > that Sarbani can clarify. As far as I know, the pancha-mukha > > worship > > > occurs > > > > in two places: in the > > > > > > > > ravanokta mahanyasa as a mental puja, and in the pancha-kalasha > > > shiva puja > > > > where water is offered. > > > > > > > > Of course, my knowledge is quite limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Friday, December 02, 2005 12:04 AM > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sarbani and Ajit, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Ajits list of the pancha mukha has a reoccurence of Prithvi > > tattva. > > > Please > > > > correct this for us. Maybe this could be a nice addition to the > > Jyotish > > > > Digest? > > > > > > > > Could you please specify the five offerings for the five heads > > of shiva? > > > > Which head gets milk for example? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > > <http://astrovisti.com> > > > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani@s...] > > > > 01 December 2005 13:14 > > > > sohamsa > > > > RE: Five offerings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Water > > > > > > > > Milk > > > > > > > > Ghee > > > > > > > > Honey > > > > > > > > Curd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Venkatesh S [ksvssvk] > > > > Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:10 PM > > > > sohamsa > > > > Five offerings > > > > > > > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > What are all the five offerings to Lord > > Shiva to > > > > appease pancha tatwas? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sohamsa > > <sohamsa> " > > > > on the web. > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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