Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 Jaya Jagannath Dear Louis, That is very interesting. In BHAVARTHA RATNAKARA we see a very specific example of the result of two planets. For example, Ramanujacharya (Author of Bhavartha Ratnakara) says that the conjoined periods of Venus & Saturn will be beneficial only for those born in the ascendants ruled by Jupiter (Refers to Pisces & Sagittarius). Now, let us take Sagittarius. Venus is the malefic lord of the 6th & 11th houses whereas Saturn is the malefic lord of the 3rd house. Your point: " Thus, the ruler of 3, 6, or 11, for example, will give his malefic results not in his own antardasha, but in the antardasha of a planet who is either an (1) atmasambandhin--related to (by conjunction, aspect, or exchange), OR (2) nijasadharmin--having the same dharma or attribute, i.e., that is also ruler of a malefic (3, 6, 11) house. " Applying your point to Sagittarius Lagna for Saturn Dasa Venus Antardasa, we see that the results are VERY NEGATIVE OR MALEFIC whereas Bhavartha Ratnakara attributes GOOD OR BENEFICIAL results. We have two options at this stage (a) either to accept that the works belong to different schools like PARASARI , JAIMINI , RAMANUJA and God knows how many other such names are to come in this Kali Yuga or (b) admit that there is an error in our interpretation of the words " Atmasambandhin " and " Nijadharminah " and that all these books belong to the one and same thought process of Vedic-Astrology. While the majority of the astrologers have accepted the first path (I believe more out of their own Ahamkara), a few like me admit that we don't have the understanding of the Maharishi's and hope that one day we shall have that insight. I hope you join me in this prayer for the truth and continue to contribute your beautiful insights that prods me to think. By the way, I do not agree with the general observation made by Sateesh. The point is that very rarely do we have the Sun, Moon and Lagna all in the same sign. If they are in the same sign and also the same constellation, then the results would be more pronounced in the same planets Dasa, Antar & Pratyantar. Hari Om Tat Sat With profound regards, Sanjay Rath - Louis Nickens <lnickens Goravani List <gjlist Saturday, December 18, 1999 12:23 AM Re: Sub-Sub-Periods as Triggers > Sateesh wrote: > > > I have noticed that over the various Bhuktis (Sub-Periods) that a different > > Sub-Sub-Period has " Triggered " the event (e.g. New Job), etc. > > > [snip] > > Can anyone advise why a different Planet was the Trigger in each Bhukti? I > > would have thought that it would have been the same one? > > > > Dear Satish, > Namaste. I've never posted to any of these lists before, but I would like > to offer my humble response to your question, so here it goes. > > In Udu-daya-pradip, Phaladipika, Jataka Chandrika, and other classical > Parashari works, we learn that a planet does not give his inauspicious or > auspicious result in his own antardasha, but rather: > > atmasambandhino ye ca ye va nijasadharminah > tesam antardasasv eva disanti svadasaphalam [30] > > " The dasha lord gives his own (good or bad) effects in the antar of those > planets who are related to him or or are of like nature (dharma) and give > similar results as that of the dashanath. " > > By dasha lord is meant either the Mahadasha lord or the Antardasha lord. > > Thus, the ruler of 3, 6, or 11, for example, will give his malefic results > not in his own antardasha, but in the antardasha of a planet who is either > an > > (1) atmasambandhin--related to (by conjunction, aspect, or exchange), OR > > (2) nijasadharmin--having the same dharma or attribute, i.e., that is also > ruler of a malefic (3, 6, 11) house. > > Likewise, the ruler of 1, 5, or 9 will give his benefic results not in his > own antar, but in the antar of a planet that is related to OR that is of the > same functionally benefic nature. > > And, of course, it goes to follow if the antar lord is both related AND of > the same nature, the results will be extreme. > > Of course, you'll need to study the appropriate varga chart to filter out > the actual effect, insofar as every house in the birthchart has many > indications. > > With this key, you can avoid confusion in interpreting charts, even when > many planets are all piled up in one house. > > I hope this helps. Namaste, > > Louis Nickens > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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