Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Marcus, With 3 planets in Watery Elements and 3 in Fire and her Fixed Signs , are not too strong makes her a restless and changeable person who like dramatic and exciting experiences/situations and a personality who often than not, work on impulse/sporadic tuning in. Allow her more situations like that, as outer influences for her is important so she does not form too much emotional dependence which tends to waver too much from time to time. This is also due to the Moon forming a T square with Saturn. Birth is also during Krishna Paksha. Yes, you may be right in the sense that she does have dramatic instincts and it is through this, she is able to transform her energy for the benefit of others. With Rahu in Virgo and 3 planets in a Fire Sign, encourage her to transform this energy into psychometry for the benefit of others. Basically, she will only require a brief feel of any of your belonging to get herself in tune. This timing is also in line with mahadasa of Mars coming in. She’ll become very good with that. Trines from her AK also indicates this. Love and Hugs, Swee www..org/learning p/s Do you re-call Chandrashekharji’s wife’s name J? Marcus [marcus (AT) jyotishlight (DOT) com] Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:40 AM [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Hello Swee, first of all let me tell you how happy I am to see Guruji Chandrashekhar on this list. I have most delightful memories from Puri and was very sad to see the conversations on the other lists. Hello Mr. Chandrashekhar happy to see your name here. Please send my best wishes to your lovely wife. Thank you for the article. This is great help. I was wondering how to understand this in a case last month. I have had a client, telling everyone she could see the aura and that she was clairvoyant. During conversation she did not look at the person in front of her but all around observed flares of light shooting of. Very confusing to talk to. When I looked at her chart I had the same approach looking at the watery signs but was not able to conclude if she was true, or a super actor. Natal Chart December 29, 1958 Time: 18:20:00 Time Zone: 0:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 6 W 15' 00 " , 53 N 20' 00 " Dublin, Ireland Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Margasira Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (39.14% left) Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (18.27% left) Yoga: Vishkambha (Sa) (11.32% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (78.28% left) Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ge) Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Cn) Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Jupiter) Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Mo \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ra HL x Gk As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ Md / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / AL \ | | / \ / \ | | x Ma | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me Ju x x Ke | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / GL \ / \ | | / Su \ / \ | | / Ve Sa \ / \ | +--------------+ Judging from the Rasi we have the Moon in Lagna in own sign aspected by Jupiter in the occult sign Scorpio in the 5th. Mercury is with Jupiter what describes great intellect and ability to communicate. Ketu Lord of the 5th in trines in the 9th in the watery Pisces. Moon has also permanent drishti to Mercury and Jupiter which could bring the ability to hear and to smell. But I do not see the eyes in the Rasi except that Mars represents fire and sight and has aspect to the moon from his own sign Aries. He is the strongest planet in the chart. Both Karakas for eyes & sight, Mars and Venus are in the occult sign in Scorpio in the Navamsa. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and aspecting the Moon in Pisces in the 7th. Taking the first 7 Varga charts into account there is predominant water. All this looks very promising that she speaks the truth. Aslesha Nakshatra is ruled by Mercury and represents the Serpent God. It can be used to poison the enemy and to paralyze. Her observing the aura might be influenced by Aslesha Navamsa D-9 +--------------+ | \ / \ Ra / | | \ / \ Su / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ma Ve x As x Ju | | / \ / \ | | / \ Gk / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 6 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Md x GL | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me x Mo x AL Sa | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ke \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Please let me know what you think and thank you for your guidance. Big hugs Marcus Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:38 PM [sPAM] [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Jaya Jagannatha Dear Marcus, You will enjoy this one J I sent it to the list earlier, but it did not come through. .. Love, Swee www..org/learning Swee Chan [swee] Monday, April 11, 2005 12:41 PM Cosmic Mirror Jaya Jagannatha Dear Members, It is always interesting to look at a chart and initially decide the cosmic mirror of the person’s psyche. I am currently teaching 2 students here who are only interested in the psychological make up of the person. Saffiye is a Psychologist and Rob is an author who writes books on Voodoo J. Many a time, we are told that the jyotish requires intuition. What constitutes Intuition? Intuition is when a person has a predominantly watery nature. This person will have this natural disposition. The Watery signs are Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. People who have predominant Watery Nature with planets in them will relate and respond to people and situations chiefly through the faculty of feeling. Their emphasis comes with a knack of intuitiveness with sympathy and compassion. The crux is that we need to look for that sign/planet that can ground the person. If Jupiter aspects the watery sign, he nature is to teach and to help the person go within their own inner depths to search for the truth. If Saturn aspects these watery signs but not on the Moon, their compassion are geared more towards those less fortunate, hoping to alleviate their sufferings by assuming a part of it themselves. If Rahu aspects any of these watery signs and not upon Moon, it gives the ability of clairaudience, etc. We can read the other planets accordingly. Let’s look at the following chart to give a better picture on intuition. I am presenting the chart in 2 formats for both Western Astrologers and Jyotishas. The ascendant is a Watery Sign with its own Lord, Jupiter in it. Sun shows the REAL Cosmic Mirror of the persona of past, present and future. The native has the nature of transmuting knowledge. The house of the occult is ruled by Venus and it is also in a watery sign. We can conclude that the person has strong Water Elements and the grounding planet comes from Earthy Mercury in a Fire Sign. This gives a restless nature whose love of exciting experiences and situations are often very impulsive. The predominant Watery Nature can work up steam with the ability to tune in with direct expressions of his inner feelings to others in an overt and warm manner. Jupiter and its trinal aspects on Sun and Venus gives his healing influence on others. The combinations of planets in Watery Signs gives the person considerable intuition. It also makes the person creative and perhaps his creative instincts are best suited to writing where he can motivate others. The Lagna Lord in a watery sign with the aspects to the 5th also indicates that he is well suited to work with others where he can experience inspiration, but frustrations and problems come together hand in hand. In my next mail, I shall present a chart that indicates clairaudience. Love, Swee www..org/learning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Marcus, The Fiery elements, if a lot of it, allows the rationale to take over intuition. It is a knife’s edge. Sun and Moon – sight and 6th sense +Jupiter, as he is the one with the knowledge; His natural home is a fire sign but he is happier in a water sign as the watery nature of Moon is able to transmute his knowledge from deep within. Sanjay ji’s Jupiter is at home in its own house. Whereas mine is in exchange, so basically, Jupiter is also in a watery sign. Most times, when Sanjay ji writes about something, I am able to read in between the lines and immediately “pick up” what he is trying to tell us with out saying too much. People with Earthy signs would rather put their ability to practical use. Sun (natural atma) in Pisces is normally someone who has been through all the births of the zodiac J But you will normally find that the drive from within is normally Sun in a watery but benefic sign and the same for Jupiter. Sun in a Fire sign in Aries will be too egoistic as he’s only just begun his journey to back to this world. You can always see the philosophical aspect of the person by looking at the sign the house is placed in. Moon whose nature is emotional, is best in an Earthy sign (Taurus, 0-3 degrees exaltation; rest MT) where she can think through and work things out rationally. Rahu in airy signs gives wavering psychic abilities. Simple basics and yet we can read so much out of it. I don’t know about walks there in Puri, but I am sure you would have noticed the sign pointing towards the Sea as a place for a holy dip (tirtha). Are you going USA this year? After doing my new passport in London, I am told that it is not valid for USA, so I will need to travel back to M’sia just to make a new one so I can get back my 10 year visa……sigh. One plus thing is, I met an old friend of mine after a 15 year absence from Zambia, so he’s back as # 2 at the embassy. The recent Solar Eclipse saw the recoil of old friends all getting reconnected. Sun’s in my 11th of friends. Love, Swee www..org/learning Marcus [marcus (AT) jyotishlight (DOT) com] Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:25 AM RE: [sPAM] RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Hare Ram Krishna Dear Swee, She only came on a holiday visit and I will not see her any more. I was only curious how the talent of reading with the finer senses can be understood in respect to the tatvas. We have the 5 elements related to the 5 senses and this should give the clue how a person can perceive those finer sensations. Through the Nose- Mercury, Taste- Venus, Jupiter- Ear and so on. After listening to some tapes I remember Guruji talking of Jupiter and hearing. I have observed since then the connection between Jupiter and the possibility to hear. Usually if Jupiter is bad placed or negatively aspected the person does not hear what you try to tell them. But in strong position and well aspected they hear it before you have said a thing. It is amazing. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and this should open the hearing for all levels of communication. Fire and mars is connected to sight. So why should not the connection between fire and water like in her chart allow the link to sight. But you are right she was very temperamental and highly dramatic with her steamy combination No kidding. Best wishes Marcus p/s Do you re-call Chandrashekharji’s wife’s name J? I am sorry. No there were so many new names and I have to keep chanting my mantra to get this quality of memory a bit better tuned. We have been walking in the morning along the beach and enjoyed the sunrise several times. Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:43 PM [sPAM] RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Jaya Jagannatha Dear Marcus, With 3 planets in Watery Elements and 3 in Fire and her Fixed Signs , are not too strong makes her a restless and changeable person who like dramatic and exciting experiences/situations and a personality who often than not, work on impulse/sporadic tuning in. Allow her more situations like that, as outer influences for her is important so she does not form too much emotional dependence which tends to waver too much from time to time. This is also due to the Moon forming a T square with Saturn. Birth is also during Krishna Paksha. Yes, you may be right in the sense that she does have dramatic instincts and it is through this, she is able to transform her energy for the benefit of others. With Rahu in Virgo and 3 planets in a Fire Sign, encourage her to transform this energy into psychometry for the benefit of others. Basically, she will only require a brief feel of any of your belonging to get herself in tune. This timing is also in line with mahadasa of Mars coming in. She’ll become very good with that. Trines from her AK also indicates this. Love and Hugs, Swee www..org/learning p/s Do you re-call Chandrashekharji’s wife’s name J? Marcus [marcus (AT) jyotishlight (DOT) com] Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:40 AM [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Hello Swee, first of all let me tell you how happy I am to see Guruji Chandrashekhar on this list. I have most delightful memories from Puri and was very sad to see the conversations on the other lists. Hello Mr. Chandrashekhar happy to see your name here. Please send my best wishes to your lovely wife. Thank you for the article. This is great help. I was wondering how to understand this in a case last month. I have had a client, telling everyone she could see the aura and that she was clairvoyant. During conversation she did not look at the person in front of her but all around observed flares of light shooting of. Very confusing to talk to. When I looked at her chart I had the same approach looking at the watery signs but was not able to conclude if she was true, or a super actor. Natal Chart December 29, 1958 Time: 18:20:00 Time Zone: 0:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 6 W 15' 00 " , 53 N 20' 00 " Dublin, Ireland Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Margasira Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (39.14% left) Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (18.27% left) Yoga: Vishkambha (Sa) (11.32% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (78.28% left) Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ge) Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Cn) Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Jupiter) Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Mo \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ra HL x Gk As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ Md / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 4 / AL \ | | / \ / \ | | x Ma | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me Ju x x Ke | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / GL \ / \ | | / Su \ / \ | | / Ve Sa \ / \ | +--------------+ Judging from the Rasi we have the Moon in Lagna in own sign aspected by Jupiter in the occult sign Scorpio in the 5th. Mercury is with Jupiter what describes great intellect and ability to communicate. Ketu Lord of the 5th in trines in the 9th in the watery Pisces. Moon has also permanent drishti to Mercury and Jupiter which could bring the ability to hear and to smell. But I do not see the eyes in the Rasi except that Mars represents fire and sight and has aspect to the moon from his own sign Aries. He is the strongest planet in the chart. Both Karakas for eyes & sight, Mars and Venus are in the occult sign in Scorpio in the Navamsa. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and aspecting the Moon in Pisces in the 7th. Taking the first 7 Varga charts into account there is predominant water. All this looks very promising that she speaks the truth. Aslesha Nakshatra is ruled by Mercury and represents the Serpent God. It can be used to poison the enemy and to paralyze. Her observing the aura might be influenced by Aslesha Navamsa D-9 +--------------+ | \ / \ Ra / | | \ / \ Su / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ma Ve x As x Ju | | / \ / \ | | / \ Gk / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 6 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Md x GL | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me x Mo x AL Sa | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ke \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Please let me know what you think and thank you for your guidance. Big hugs Marcus Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:38 PM [sPAM] [Jaya Jagannatha] Cosmic Mirror Jaya Jagannatha Dear Marcus, You will enjoy this one J I sent it to the list earlier, but it did not come through. .. Love, Swee www..org/learning Swee Chan [swee] Monday, April 11, 2005 12:41 PM Cosmic Mirror Jaya Jagannatha Dear Members, It is always interesting to look at a chart and initially decide the cosmic mirror of the person’s psyche. I am currently teaching 2 students here who are only interested in the psychological make up of the person. Saffiye is a Psychologist and Rob is an author who writes books on Voodoo J. Many a time, we are told that the jyotish requires intuition. What constitutes Intuition? Intuition is when a person has a predominantly watery nature. This person will have this natural disposition. The Watery signs are Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. People who have predominant Watery Nature with planets in them will relate and respond to people and situations chiefly through the faculty of feeling. Their emphasis comes with a knack of intuitiveness with sympathy and compassion. The crux is that we need to look for that sign/planet that can ground the person. If Jupiter aspects the watery sign, he nature is to teach and to help the person go within their own inner depths to search for the truth. If Saturn aspects these watery signs but not on the Moon, their compassion are geared more towards those less fortunate, hoping to alleviate their sufferings by assuming a part of it themselves. If Rahu aspects any of these watery signs and not upon Moon, it gives the ability of clairaudience, etc. We can read the other planets accordingly. Let’s look at the following chart to give a better picture on intuition. I am presenting the chart in 2 formats for both Western Astrologers and Jyotishas. The ascendant is a Watery Sign with its own Lord, Jupiter in it. Sun shows the REAL Cosmic Mirror of the persona of past, present and future. The native has the nature of transmuting knowledge. The house of the occult is ruled by Venus and it is also in a watery sign. We can conclude that the person has strong Water Elements and the grounding planet comes from Earthy Mercury in a Fire Sign. This gives a restless nature whose love of exciting experiences and situations are often very impulsive. The predominant Watery Nature can work up steam with the ability to tune in with direct expressions of his inner feelings to others in an overt and warm manner. Jupiter and its trinal aspects on Sun and Venus gives his healing influence on others. The combinations of planets in Watery Signs gives the person considerable intuition. It also makes the person creative and perhaps his creative instincts are best suited to writing where he can motivate others. The Lagna Lord in a watery sign with the aspects to the 5th also indicates that he is well suited to work with others where he can experience inspiration, but frustrations and problems come together hand in hand. In my next mail, I shall present a chart that indicates clairaudience. Love, Swee www..org/learning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Hello Swee, here is my retro Mercury again. Can you please correct me with my understanding in respect to the tatwas and 6th sense. What you say is very clear and the sample of Jupiter in watery sign will allow the intuition to come to you in form of Jupiter = Ether and so with knowledge. It is the hearing and understanding. Moon is the mind and 6th sense. So any relation to the Moon and the watery signs should open this intuitive power. Can we relate this also to the eyes/mars, nose/mercury and tongue/Venus depending what planets are in watery signs.??? Thank you for your time. Marcus Sun and Moon – sight and 6th sense +Jupiter, as he is the one with the knowledge; His natural home is a fire sign but he is happier in a water sign as the watery nature of Moon is able to transmute his knowledge from deep within. Sanjay ji’s Jupiter is at home in its own house. Whereas mine is in exchange, so basically, Jupiter is also in a watery sign. Most times, when Sanjay ji writes about something, I am able to read in between the lines and immediately “pick up” what he is trying to tell us with out saying too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Dear Swee Interesting discussion going on here. Though i deal with practical cases all the time, psychic phenomena is close to my heart. Trust me, as i have AK sun in Jyestha and i love to read these things. Sun and mars are important for sight, moon for intuition. Jupiter is above all these, he is Pure awareness. lovely discussion best wishes partha , " Marcus " <marcus@j...> wrote: > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > Hello Swee, > > here is my retro Mercury again. Can you please correct me with my > understanding in respect to the tatwas and 6th sense. > What you say is very clear and the sample of Jupiter in watery sign will > allow the intuition to come to you in form of Jupiter = Ether and so with > knowledge. It is the hearing and understanding. > Moon is the mind and 6th sense. So any relation to the Moon and the watery > signs should open this intuitive power. > > Can we relate this also to the eyes/mars, nose/mercury and tongue/Venus > depending what planets are in watery signs.??? > > Thank you for your time. > > Marcus > > > > Sun and Moon - sight and 6th sense +Jupiter, as he is the one with the > knowledge; His natural home is a fire sign but he is happier in a water sign > as the watery nature of Moon is able to transmute his knowledge from deep > within. Sanjay ji's Jupiter is at home in its own house. Whereas mine is in > exchange, so basically, Jupiter is also in a watery sign. Most times, when > Sanjay ji writes about something, I am able to read in between the lines and > immediately " pick up " what he is trying to tell us with out saying too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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