Narasimha Guru, fixed zodiac

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Dear Jaan,

 

Namaste.

 

 

Dear Guru

 

thanx for the clarification.

 

i am not sure what you mean by the suns yearly cycle, isnt it that

the earth cycles round the sun and returns in a place that is

slightly different?

 

Let's just consider for the time being the apparent motion of the Sun around the

earth.

Since the point of our observation is on the earth, it is valid to take it as

fixed and

measure the motions of the planets compaerd to it. The intricacies of higner

astronomy are

explained in the Bhagavata Purana, but we don't delve into it right now. So the

Sun's

yearly cycle will begin from the Sun's position at local noon above a given

place at the

day of the vernal equinoxe, till the similar position in the next year. If

menasured

against the Nakshatras, then it will progress backwards with the rate of 50 1/3

seconds of

arc yearly. This is precession or Ayanamsha.

 

one more question, in the fixed zodiac how are we determining the

position of planets?

 

The chosen zero point of the Zodiac (zero degree of Aries) coincides with the

beginning of

Ashwini. Each Nakshatra has a few bright stars positioned in them in a certain

pattern,

called constellations (Taras) These numbers are mentioned by Varaha Mihira,

Mukunda

Daivajna etc. Perhaps some Ganitas have more detailed descriptions of the

constellations

and the stars forming them. Anyway, the Nakshatras are fixed to the stars. The

junction of

Ashwini and Revati is indicated by the stars which is called Zeta Piscium in the

west.

This star is no longer visible, so the astronomers have chosen the star exactly

opposite

it, which marks the 180 deg of ths sidereal zodiac. This is the star Spica, and

it's in

the middle of Chitra Nakshatra. Therefore Lahiri Ayanamsha is also called

Chitrapaksha.

The zreo year when te two zodiacs coinciede is 285 AD. The vernal equinoxe in

this year

have fallen exactly at the above mentioned beginning of the sidereal zodiac.

Therefore we

recommend using Lahiri Ayanamsha as it's the most founded astronomically, and

proves to be

the most exact, although for recent epochs it may be some seconds offf. But as

we don't

have anything more exact, we should use this for the time being.

 

can you say roughly how we determine that a planet is in 10 degrees

Aries?

is there book that gives methods to determine the planet positions?

 

You may study B.V. Raman's Manual of Hindu Astrology, which gives many useful

infos on the

calculations. Surya-siddhanta and other Ganita scriptures are also useful.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Jaan & Gauranga,

The concept is slightly different. When the Sun is at any point, then the

Planets/ Yoga Tara i.e. Nakshatra near and around it are not visible due to

the overpowering rays of the sunlight. The first that will be visible is the

one at 180 Degrees from the Sun. This is the time of Sunset and this

Tara/Star/ Constellation shall be visible. Thus, in any day, DRAW A LINE

FROM THE POSITION OF THE SUN TO 180 DEGREE AWAY FROM IT. The Stars behind

the Sun (Take Sun =0 Deg) i.e. 180 Deg to 360/0 Deg shall not be visible,

but these signs are signs that are illuminated by daylight. Thus, during

mid-day the sun is in the tenth house, at about 2 PM in the ninth house and

so on till in the 7th house at sunset. That is why these houses from 1st to

7th (Reverse count 1.e. 7,8, 9, 10, 11 & 12)Degree wise are called Drusya

Rasi or " signs when there is visibility in the place " . The signs in the 1st

to 7th houses in the direct count i.e. 1,2,3,4,5 & 6 are Adrusya Rasi or

that do not afford visibility in the place. It is simple to understand that

when the SUN IS IN ASWINI 0 DEGREE, THE YOGATARA IS CHITRA OR THE

CONSTELLATION IN THE 7TH HOUSE OR 180 DEGREES OPPOSITE. That is why it is

called Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa.

 

Hope this clarifies.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

 

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On Behalf Of Gauranga Das

17 November 2000 01:54

varahamihira

Re: [sri Guru] Re: Narasimha Guru, fixed zodiac

 

 

Dear Jaan,

 

Namaste.

 

 

Dear Guru

 

thanx for the clarification.

 

i am not sure what you mean by the suns yearly cycle, isnt it that

the earth cycles round the sun and returns in a place that is

slightly different?

 

Let's just consider for the time being the apparent motion of the Sun around

the earth.

Since the point of our observation is on the earth, it is valid to take it

as fixed and

measure the motions of the planets compaerd to it. The intricacies of higner

astronomy are

explained in the Bhagavata Purana, but we don't delve into it right now. So

the Sun's

yearly cycle will begin from the Sun's position at local noon above a given

place at the

day of the vernal equinoxe, till the similar position in the next year. If

menasured

against the Nakshatras, then it will progress backwards with the rate of 50

1/3 seconds of

arc yearly. This is precession or Ayanamsha.

 

one more question, in the fixed zodiac how are we determining the

position of planets?

 

The chosen zero point of the Zodiac (zero degree of Aries) coincides with

the beginning of

Ashwini. Each Nakshatra has a few bright stars positioned in them in a

certain pattern,

called constellations (Taras) These numbers are mentioned by Varaha Mihira,

Mukunda

Daivajna etc. Perhaps some Ganitas have more detailed descriptions of the

constellations

and the stars forming them. Anyway, the Nakshatras are fixed to the stars.

The junction of

Ashwini and Revati is indicated by the stars which is called Zeta Piscium in

the west.

This star is no longer visible, so the astronomers have chosen the star

exactly opposite

it, which marks the 180 deg of ths sidereal zodiac. This is the star Spica,

and it's in

the middle of Chitra Nakshatra. Therefore Lahiri Ayanamsha is also called

Chitrapaksha.

The zreo year when te two zodiacs coinciede is 285 AD. The vernal equinoxe

in this year

have fallen exactly at the above mentioned beginning of the sidereal zodiac.

Therefore we

recommend using Lahiri Ayanamsha as it's the most founded astronomically,

and proves to be

the most exact, although for recent epochs it may be some seconds offf. But

as we don't

have anything more exact, we should use this for the time being.

 

can you say roughly how we determine that a planet is in 10 degrees

Aries?

is there book that gives methods to determine the planet positions?

 

You may study B.V. Raman's Manual of Hindu Astrology, which gives many

useful infos on the

calculations. Surya-siddhanta and other Ganita scriptures are also useful.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

 

 

 

 

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