Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Jaya Jaya Jagannath,Namasthe Solai,Let me try to help you.>I am confused with the following chart for selecting between Ma / Ketu and>between the 1st / 7th houses and request the members to help me out.>>Ar - Ma>Ta - Lagna>Ge - Ve & Su>Cn - Me>Le- Rh>Vi - Mo>Sg - SaR & JuR>Aq - Ke>>1. Mars and Ketu: Both occupy the signs alone. Jupiter is not aspecting>both. Mercury is aspecting Ketu.>Stronger of Aq lords is Saturn, is not>aspecting Ketu. (Otherwise also Rahu is not aspecting Ketu by Rasidrishti).>As Mars is disposited in Ar. do we have to consider its lordship of Ar? If>we do not consider, then Ketu wins. If we consider, then both are equal.>Then going to the next rule of Dual>fixed>movable, Ketu is stronger infixed>sign. Is it correct?Conjoined -no (Mars & Ketu) 0 0Jupiter aspect no 0 0Mercury aspect 0 1Dispositer 1 0Occupation M FixedYes, Ketu must be stronger. How ever see other aspects as well. Ketu isaspected by 4 planets and Mars is aspected by 3 planets only. ( COVA usingthis as well.)>>2. Now Lagna is Taurus and seventh is Scorpio. Both are unoccupied. Jupiter>is not aspecting both. Mercury aspects both. Venus is not aspecting Ta.But,>if we chose Ketu is the lord of Sc. as above, then it is not aspecting Sc.>Then there is a tie. Now considering the longitude, Venus is>tronger.( Venus 18Ge01 Ketu 25Aq47). So I select Ta, the lagna is stronger.>Is it correct?1 & 7th No conjoins 0 0Jupiter- no aspect 0 0Mercury- aspect 1 1Dispositor 0 1 (Scorpio aspected by one ofthe lord)So scorpio is stronger.Next time please send B'data. You already know aspects of AK can change thislordships.Hare KrshnaKaru>If we consider Mars' aspect on Sc. then Sc. wins.>>Please clarify.>>Thanks>Your sisya>Solai Kannan>>>>OM TAT SAT>Archive: varahamihira>Info: varahamihira/info.html>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2001 Report Share Posted January 27, 2001 Ketu stronger Scorpio is stronger OK Sanjay - " Solai Kannan " <solai <varahamihira > Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:08 PM [sri Guru] Narayana dasa clarification > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Gurudeva and friends, > > I am confused with the following chart for selecting between Ma / Ketu and > between the 1st / 7th houses and request the members to help me out. > > Ar - Ma > Ta - Lagna > Ge - Ve & Su > Cn - Me > Le- Rh > Vi - Mo > Sg - SaR & JuR > Aq - Ke > > 1. Mars and Ketu: Both occupy the signs alone. Jupiter is not aspecting > both. Mercury is aspecting Ketu. Stronger of Aq lords is Saturn, is not > aspecting Ketu. (Otherwise also Rahu is not aspecting Ketu by Rasi drishti). > As Mars is disposited in Ar. do we have to consider its lordship of Ar? If > we do not consider, then Ketu wins. If we consider, then both are equal. > Then going to the next rule of Dual>fixed>movable, Ketu is stronger in fixed > sign. Is it correct? > > 2. Now Lagna is Taurus and seventh is Scorpio. Both are unoccupied. Jupiter > is not aspecting both. Mercury aspects both. Venus is not aspecting Ta. But, > if we chose Ketu is the lord of Sc. as above, then it is not aspecting Sc. > Then there is a tie. Now considering the longitude, Venus is > tronger.( Venus 18Ge01 Ketu 25Aq47). So I select Ta, the lagna is stronger. > Is it correct? > > If we consider Mars' aspect on Sc. then Sc. wins. > > Please clarify. > > Thanks > Your sisya > Solai Kannan > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2001 Report Share Posted January 27, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Karu, Thanks for your reply. I am sorry I didn't mention about AK. AK is Saturn and it is not associated with either of the lords and houses. Your first answer is OK. But, in the second, between Ta and Sc. what I understood is, if we selected a lord for Aq. or Sc., then afterwards, that lord has to be considered as lord of these signs. For example, here we have chosen Ketu as the lord of Scorpio, so, when considering the aspect of the lord, we have to take only Ketu and not Mars. This is where I am confused. Whether we have to stick to the chosen lord or we can consider both lords for the aspect. Please clarify. Birth data is as follows. Date of Birth: July 1, 1960Time of Birth: 3:23:00 amTime Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMTLongitude of Birth: 78 E 50Latitude of Birth: 9 N 23Ayanamsa = 23-18-16 Thanks Solai Kannan Karu [heen]Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:10 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [sri Guru] Narayana dasa clarification Jaya Jaya Jagannath,Namasthe Solai,Let me try to help you.>I am confused with the following chart for selecting between Ma / Ketu and>between the 1st / 7th houses and request the members to help me out.>>Ar - Ma>Ta - Lagna>Ge - Ve & Su>Cn - Me>Le- Rh>Vi - Mo>Sg - SaR & JuR>Aq - Ke>>1. Mars and Ketu: Both occupy the signs alone. Jupiter is not aspecting>both. Mercury is aspecting Ketu.>Stronger of Aq lords is Saturn, is not>aspecting Ketu. (Otherwise also Rahu is not aspecting Ketu by Rasidrishti).>As Mars is disposited in Ar. do we have to consider its lordship of Ar? If>we do not consider, then Ketu wins. If we consider, then both are equal.>Then going to the next rule of Dual>fixed>movable, Ketu is stronger infixed>sign. Is it correct?Conjoined -no (Mars & Ketu) 0 0Jupiter aspect no 0 0Mercury aspect 0 1Dispositer 1 0Occupation M FixedYes, Ketu must be stronger. How ever see other aspects as well. Ketu isaspected by 4 planets and Mars is aspected by 3 planets only. ( COVA usingthis as well.)>>2. Now Lagna is Taurus and seventh is Scorpio. Both are unoccupied. Jupiter>is not aspecting both. Mercury aspects both. Venus is not aspecting Ta.But,>if we chose Ketu is the lord of Sc. as above, then it is not aspecting Sc.>Then there is a tie. Now considering the longitude, Venus is>tronger.( Venus 18Ge01 Ketu 25Aq47). So I select Ta, the lagna is stronger.>Is it correct?1 & 7th No conjoins 0 0Jupiter- no aspect 0 0Mercury- aspect 1 1Dispositor 0 1 (Scorpio aspected by one ofthe lord)So scorpio is stronger.Next time please send B'data. You already know aspects of AK can change thislordships.Hare KrshnaKaru>If we consider Mars' aspect on Sc. then Sc. wins.>>Please clarify.>>Thanks>Your sisya>Solai Kannan>>>>OM TAT SAT>Archive: varahamihira>Info: varahamihira/info.html>>OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2001 Report Share Posted January 28, 2001 Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Dear Solai, But, in the second, between Ta and Sc. what I understood is, if we selected a lord for Aq. or Sc., then afterwards, that lord has to be considered as lord of these signs. For example, here we have chosen Ketu as the lord of Scorpio, so, when considering the aspect of the lord, we have to take only Ketu and not Mars. This is where I am confused. Whether we have to stick to the chosen lord or we can consider both lords for the aspect. Please clarify. For such a case, you may take either lord. But for dasa years etc. you must take the stronger lord. How ever Gurudeva too answered your question already. Thanks, Karu Birth data is as follows. Date of Birth: July 1, 1960Time of Birth: 3:23:00 amTime Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMTLongitude of Birth: 78 E 50Latitude of Birth: 9 N 23Ayanamsa = 23-18-16 Thanks Solai Kannan Karu [heen]Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:10 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [sri Guru] Narayana dasa clarification Jaya Jaya Jagannath,Namasthe Solai,Let me try to help you.>I am confused with the following chart for selecting between Ma / Ketu and>between the 1st / 7th houses and request the members to help me out.>>Ar - Ma>Ta - Lagna>Ge - Ve & Su>Cn - Me>Le- Rh>Vi - Mo>Sg - SaR & JuR>Aq - Ke>>1. Mars and Ketu: Both occupy the signs alone. Jupiter is not aspecting>both. Mercury is aspecting Ketu.>Stronger of Aq lords is Saturn, is not>aspecting Ketu. (Otherwise also Rahu is not aspecting Ketu by Rasidrishti).>As Mars is disposited in Ar. do we have to consider its lordship of Ar? If>we do not consider, then Ketu wins. If we consider, then both are equal.>Then going to the next rule of Dual>fixed>movable, Ketu is stronger infixed>sign. Is it correct?Conjoined -no (Mars & Ketu) 0 0Jupiter aspect no 0 0Mercury aspect 0 1Dispositer 1 0Occupation M FixedYes, Ketu must be stronger. How ever see other aspects as well. Ketu isaspected by 4 planets and Mars is aspected by 3 planets only. ( COVA usingthis as well.)>>2. Now Lagna is Taurus and seventh is Scorpio. Both are unoccupied. Jupiter>is not aspecting both. Mercury aspects both. Venus is not aspecting Ta.But,>if we chose Ketu is the lord of Sc. as above, then it is not aspecting Sc.>Then there is a tie. Now considering the longitude, Venus is>tronger.( Venus 18Ge01 Ketu 25Aq47). So I select Ta, the lagna is stronger.>Is it correct?1 & 7th No conjoins 0 0Jupiter- no aspect 0 0Mercury- aspect 1 1Dispositor 0 1 (Scorpio aspected by one ofthe lord)So scorpio is stronger.Next time please send B'data. You already know aspects of AK can change thislordships.Hare KrshnaKaru>If we consider Mars' aspect on Sc. then Sc. wins.>>Please clarify.>>Thanks>Your sisya>Solai Kannan>>>>OM TAT SAT>Archive: varahamihira>Info: varahamihira/info.html>>OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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