Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Swee, Namaskar The Jeevanmuktaamsa is seen from the twelfth from karakamsa. In this parampara we consider this the istha, as the one who can give Mukti in this body (jeevan-mukta) must be the most auspicious, and the rest are just temporary focus of worship. The planet determining the karakamsa, is the atmakaraka and there are only eight such for the animate beings, as these animate beings follow time. The wheel of time has these eight spokes imbeded and is known as the Kala Chakra. This is the basis of hinduism. It is also the ‘map’ of the atma or soul, and shows the eight states (nine actually) which the atma can be in during anytime... see Dhyana-bindu-upanishad, sloka 94. Among these eight spokes, half are recieving energy whilst the other half are excerting energy. Because of the sense of ahamkara present in most animate beings, the spokes recieving energy are the only ones ‘awake’... the rest are hidden or without awareness. However, once in a while an atma is born with more awareness of the remaining ‘hidden’ petals, and there are four such atmas depending on the atmakaraka. These those with their atmakaraka as; Mangal, Budha, Shani and Rahu. Thus the atmakaraka itself can determine the level of awareness and spirituality. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan 11 October 2005 16:40 sohamsa RE: Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste ||Indeed it is not the graha which decides, but the vishwatma or karakamsa sign itself.|| Sourav has hit the nail on the head. He says Rahu is the non conformist. So why, should Rahu conform and be like the rest of the grahas in ascertaining the Istha? (Please explain the root of Vishva.) In any case, why should a malefic planet indicate high spirituality when it is the planet or sign in the 12th from karakamsa that ascertains the Istha. Shouldn’t we, in the first place look at the 9th house of dharma and its lord and sthirakarakas in rasi? And no, I am not asking for any new research J Love, Swee sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:28 PM sohamsa RE: Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Swee, Namaskar I agree fully with Sourav’s latest statement. Indeed it is not the graha which decides, but the vishwatma or karakamsa sign itself. To support this; Guruji has always said that my ishta devata is Sri Vishnu, from the begining, and has always referred to Mercury. I have Rahu atmakaraka and the twelfth house is unoccupied and unaspected, whilst the lord is Mercury. The second from Karakamsa has Surya and Shani in Simha. The obvious choice among the two would be the stronger graha; Surya, and there has never been any talk about Surya nor Surya-narayana, as far as Ishta devata is concerned. Also reversing the houses from karakamsa would also imply reversing the dharma devata, and other houses of importance. Guruji has never done this, so what you are suggesting is new research. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan 10 October 2005 18:30 sohamsa RE: Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sourav, Namaste Ra does not get to decide who his AK will be; My original question is what becomes when Rahu is AK. 2nd or 12th? Guess this is too much of a mind twister. Never mind ;-) A short note: if you read up in Srimad Bhagavatam on parts of Canto 3, 5 and 8, " Ra-Ke " showed egoistic authority and were cursed by the Kumaras. Their " human " birth took place on earth which was still submerged in water. Read up on portends of Rahu which ensue the birth of Saturn (sorrow). Love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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