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Dear Karu,

 

 

Karakamsa or AtmaKarakamsa is the Navamsa occupied by AtmaKaraka.

Lagnamsa and Navamsa Lagna and Swamsa are used Interchangeably.

 

Example in Gurudev's chart:

 

Saturn is the Chara AtmaKaraka.

It occupies Virgo in Navamsa.

Hence, Virgo is AtmaKarakamsa or Karakamsa.

 

In Navamsa, Sc is the Lagna.

Hence, Sc is also known as Lagnamsa or Swamsa.

 

Regards

Narayan

 

 

varahamihira , " Karu " <heen@t...> wrote:

> Jaya Jaya Jaganatha,

>

> Dear Gurudeva Sanjay,

>

> Now I have more trouble regarding Karakamsa/ lagnamsa.

> According to Sri KN Rao the karakamsa is

>

> * Rasi sign occupied by the AK in the Nawamsa chart.*

>

> IN YOUR CASE SATURN IS THE AK AND SATURN IN THE VIRGO IN 9D. SO

YOUR'S KARAKAMSA MUST BE VIRGO.

>

> LAGNAMSA IS NAVAMSA OF LAGNA. SO LAGNAMSA = NAVAMSA IN YOUR'S,

LAGNAMSA AND NAVAMSA IS SCORPIO. THEN WHAT WILL BE THE LAGNA SIGN IN

THE 9D ?

>

> YOUR KETH-AMSA IS 2ND OF THE 9D.( SAG)

> YOUR GURAMSA IS 5TH OF THE 9D (PISC)

> YOUR SURYAMSA IS 9TH OF THE 9D (CAN)

> YOUR (LAGNAMSA) IS 5TH FROM 9D (PISC) ???

>

> You say,

> *LAGNAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA OF LAGNA*

> AND

> *KARAKAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA OF ATMAKARAKA.*

>

> If Karakamsa is the navamsa of AK, it is still Virgo isn't ?

>

> Could you write in this regard, a detail letter ? Can any one who

properly understand this help me to clear this ?

>

> Hare Krishna,

> Your Sishya

>

> Karu

>

>

> RATH: AMSALAGNA AND LAGNAMSA ARE QUITE INTERCHANGABLE AND ONE

HAS TO BE CAREFUL IN READING. THIS IS THE MISTAKE KN RAO MADE IN THE

INTERPRETATION OF THE WORD KARAKAMSA WHERE HE FEELS THAT THIS IS THE

RASI SIGN OCCUPIED BY THE AK IN THE NAVAMSA. LAGNAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA

OF LAGNA AND KARAKAMSA IS THE NAVAMSA OF ATMAKARAKA. IN FACT THE

EXACT TERM SHOULD BE ATMAKARAKAMSA TO DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM THE OTHER

KARAKA. VERY OFTEN YOU FIND THE WORD " AMSA " BEING USED AND ONE HAS TO

BE VERY CAREFUL AS THIS IS GENERALLY NAVAMSA, BUT COULD BE DIFFERENT

IN A SPECIFIC CONTEXT. I TRIED TO FINALISE A TERMINOLOGY BUT THE

DIFFERENT WAYS OF USING SANSKRIT WORDS MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.

> >

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