RE: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Namaste Arjun Ji and all,

 

Jaab Jaago Tabhi se Savera ! Just because we learn about ancient classic scriptures in Jyotish today does not mean that they were written ( or would you say made up) today.

 

We, as responsible Jyotish ( or in my case students of Jyotish), have a duty to search, research, validate and then use our knowledge and findings for the benefit of our clients. Yes, we all do charge a "reasonable" fee for this, because its a compensation for our efforts. However, Ethical behavior is what is required of us, in prescribing gemstones that work, and not sure cost more!

 

Swee ji has undertaken huge responsibility and has successfully embarked on this journey. Her knowledge is unparallel and her devotion doubtless.

 

As someone who has bought and sold gems worth more than the entire colony where you live ( no offense intended), there is a great void in knowing what gems one should wear ( this is what a competant jyotishi is supposed to be doing), and actually knowing what is a "jyotish quality gemstone" that will "actually work"....often an astrologer says go wear a 5 carat emerald, and the middle class poor fellow goes to a gem dealer and the gem dealer says what's the budget and the guy says 2000 or 5000 or something like that, and then the gem dealer takes out an emerald and hands it over to the guy who wears it, and guess what- It does not work !!! Think why?

 

Leave you at that for now...but hoping for a healthy learning experience...

 

Namaste

Gaurav Jain

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/10/2006 2:33:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, swee writes:

Jaya JagannathaDear Arjun,NamasteI fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and theirintrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if apatient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will thatdoctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heartsurgeon. Agree?We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not onlyrecommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for thebest gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. Weconsider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is alsobased on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some ofthe people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while forsome, we have it immediately under our tuck.I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannotafford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it thatwe are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles dueto our punya!!!For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones,I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end ofeach month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you areworth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case.Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints inthe classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitamthat helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe thatgemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book.Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who arenot versed in the science of gemstones. Period. In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besideshelping to correct other health issues. Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (orhugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me,you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then noone will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor.By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems asyour second message as a repeat of the first.Love,Sweevedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PMvedic astrology Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Manidear kumarjii fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who recommend these stones can answer better.anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on the stone believers.with best wishesarjunvedic astrology , "P Kumar" <pkumar24 wrote:>> Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't know everything about his bad health) so seriously ?> > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much easier.> > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)> > -> "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> <vedic astrology >> Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani> > > > dear friend kumarji> >> > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but> > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine> > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work.> >> > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem> > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative.> >> > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones> > and have not recommended stones to any one.> >> > with best wishes> > arjun> >> > vedic astrology , "P Kumar" <pkumar24@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else.> > >> > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)> > >> > > -> > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@>> > > <vedic astrology >> > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani> > >> > >> > > > respected sir,> > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio> > asc),> > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of> > problems> > > > in relationships).> > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be> > very> > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities> > included by> > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be> > advisable to> > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > >> > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > >> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > >> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > >> > > > > > > >