Guest guest Posted April 2, 2000 Report Share Posted April 2, 2000 Dear Jyotisha, I suppose,the significations of the lagna(atmakarak,navamsh lagna or its trines moon,etc..) would have a say on a person's character. As far as yogas are concerned,at the moment I 've thought of two yogas. 1.Guru full dhristi to Budh 2.Lord of 9.house in 10.house,alongside with 10.house lord in exaltation. Second house has a say on speech,but speech may be trutful,while mind not necessarily so.Or perhaps,I am wrong? Regards, Zoran > Om Tat Sat > Dear Jyotisha, > Here is a note I had received from someone...can't recollect. Forwarding > it without editing and request you to apply yourself. Try to cull out the > combinations that make one a truthful person, which is a must to be a good > Jyotish. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > ________________________ > > DATTATREYA > Indian mythology has a God whose name is Dattatreya. He had many Gurus (18 I > believe)! One of them was a dog! The point of this story I believe is NOT to > denigrate Gurus but to bring home the point that Gurus come in all forms! > Another Indian saying is that when the Student is ready the Teacher will > appear. It is our percerptions that cast various " beings " as objects such as > human beings, books, animals, etc. But they all came from the Great > Mysterious Infinite symbolized by OM and that is where they vanish. Whoever > we learn from is a Guru! I am not devaluing anyone but just expressing my > understanding of one aspect of the Upanishad Mahavakya (great sentence) - > Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma - Everywhere I look I see Brahm (different from Lord > Brahama). The Universe is talking to us and the " Talker " takes many > different forms. Our challenge is to get past our sense perceptions of forms > and symbols and pay attention to what is being communicated to us! > > SATYAVADI YOGA > In the Classics, a number of yogas have been given which ae supposed to make > one a liar. These have been called " Asatyavadi Yogas " , Satya meaning truth, > whereas Asatya meaning Untruth or lies. > > Picking two from the list I have in my notes: > > 1) The Lord of the second occupies a rasi of Mars or Saturn, while malefics > are placed in kendras and trikonas. > > 2) If the Lord of the fifth and Mercury occupy Rasis of Mars and Saturn. > > It seems to me, that if these combinations produce liars, then by changing > the appropriates parts of the combination, we can come up with truth yogas > or " Satyavaadi Yogas " . So we could say: > > 1) The Lord of the second occupies a rasi of Venus or Jupiter, while > benefics are placed in Kendras and trikonas. > > 2) If the Lod of the fifth and Mercury occupy Rasis of Venus and Jupiter. > > Of course with all yogas one must consider the rest of the horoscope. Any > thoughts? > > Another thing... For any type of serious lying, the morality of the person > must be seriously flawed. So it would probably also be a good idea to judge > the fourth house along with it's Lord. > > ------ > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/954690995/ > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- /ChatPage?listName=varahamihira & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2000 Report Share Posted April 4, 2000 OM VISHNAVE NAMAH Dear Zoran, SATYA is very difficult to understand. Here we are limiting ourselves to " SATYAVADI YOGA " or one who will speak the truth. 1. Speech is to be studied from the second house, its lord and the second house from Mercury the significator of " Vaach " or speech. Association of the lords of trines with the second house from Lagna or Mercury gives Vaach siddhi or what the person says is fulfilled and thus such a person is also Satyavadi or truthful. However, Saturn and Mars are responsible for untruthful speech whereas Jupiter and Venus for truthful speech. 2. Thus, the association of the second lord with Jupiter or Venus makes one truthful whereas the association with Saturn or Mars makes one untruthful. By association I mean " Sambandha " and not merely the ownership of the second. For example, Sagittarius Lagna is said to be the most truthful and straightforward although Saturn is the owner of the second. Thus mere ownership should not decide whether one is truthful or otherwise. The placement is important as well as the aspects and conjunctions on the second lord. 3. A few examples are cited here:- i) Dr B V Raman the eminent Jyotish was able to predict the sequence of World War II as well as the outcome very accurately that gave him world fame. The second lord Jupiter is in Scorpio in a Martian sign and this should give a yoga for being untruthful, yet the reverse occured. Mercury is in Leo and the second from it is Virgo. He worshipped Rajarajeshwari or the Sri Vidya and attained Vaach Siddhi. The Arudha of the second house is in Cancer showing that he shall have the power to speak about the future. Nostradamus also worshipped the Moon for this power to see the future. ii) A male born in Cancer Lagna has the Sun (2nd Lord) and Saturn in the 8th house and is a chronic liar. Here the Sun is also in Scorpio Navamsa besides conjoining Saturn in Rasi. The Arudha of the second house is in Taurus with Rahu in it. Thus, the Yoga is complete. The ray of hope is in the aspect of Jupiter on the second as the Sun also conjoins Jupiter in Scorpio Navamsa. (DOB 16 Feb 1965, Cancer Lagna, Capricorn Navamsa Lagna 21N28 84E01) iii) Bhagavan Sri Krishna had the second Lord in Virgo in exaltation conjoined Jupiter which is also the Arudha Lagna. The Arudha of the second house is also in Virgo with Jup-Merc or Guru-Sisya yoga. The Bhagavat Gita is the Greatest truth taught by Him and the only mantra in the Gita is " Om Tat Sat " . +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Asc Moo | Mnd | | HL | | | | | | | Glk BL | GL | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Mar | | | | | | | | Rah | | | | | | | | Ven | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ket | | Sun | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Jup AL A2 | | | Sat | | | | | | | Mer | | | | | | +----------------------+ 4. The points about the 9th house and tenth house are fine, but not directly relevant. The tenth house can help us to " SEE " the truth. Mercury influenced by Jupiter is very good, especially in the Navamsa while the influence of the Moon or Venus on Mercury may not be good. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Zoran Radosavljevic <satya <varahamihira > Monday, April 03, 2000 12:10 AM [Jagannath] Re: Satyavadi Yoga > Dear Jyotisha, > I suppose,the significations of the lagna(atmakarak,navamsh lagna or its trines > > moon,etc..) would have a say on a person's character. > As far as yogas are concerned,at the moment I 've thought of two yogas. > 1.Guru full dhristi to Budh > 2.Lord of 9.house in 10.house,alongside with 10.house lord in exaltation. > Second house has a say on speech,but speech may be trutful,while mind not > necessarily so.Or perhaps,I am wrong? > Regards, > Zoran > > > Om Tat Sat > > Dear Jyotisha, > > Here is a note I had received from someone...can't recollect. Forwarding > > it without editing and request you to apply yourself. Try to cull out the > > combinations that make one a truthful person, which is a must to be a good > > Jyotish. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > ________________________ > > > > DATTATREYA > > Indian mythology has a God whose name is Dattatreya. He had many Gurus (18 I > > believe)! One of them was a dog! The point of this story I believe is NOT to > > denigrate Gurus but to bring home the point that Gurus come in all forms! > > Another Indian saying is that when the Student is ready the Teacher will > > appear. It is our percerptions that cast various " beings " as objects such as > > human beings, books, animals, etc. But they all came from the Great > > Mysterious Infinite symbolized by OM and that is where they vanish. Whoever > > we learn from is a Guru! I am not devaluing anyone but just expressing my > > understanding of one aspect of the Upanishad Mahavakya (great sentence) - > > Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma - Everywhere I look I see Brahm (different from Lord > > Brahama). The Universe is talking to us and the " Talker " takes many > > different forms. Our challenge is to get past our sense perceptions of forms > > and symbols and pay attention to what is being communicated to us! > > > > SATYAVADI YOGA > > In the Classics, a number of yogas have been given which ae supposed to make > > one a liar. These have been called " Asatyavadi Yogas " , Satya meaning truth, > > whereas Asatya meaning Untruth or lies. > > > > Picking two from the list I have in my notes: > > > > 1) The Lord of the second occupies a rasi of Mars or Saturn, while malefics > > are placed in kendras and trikonas. > > > > 2) If the Lord of the fifth and Mercury occupy Rasis of Mars and Saturn. > > > > It seems to me, that if these combinations produce liars, then by changing > > the appropriates parts of the combination, we can come up with truth yogas > > or " Satyavaadi Yogas " . So we could say: > > > > 1) The Lord of the second occupies a rasi of Venus or Jupiter, while > > benefics are placed in Kendras and trikonas. > > > > 2) If the Lod of the fifth and Mercury occupy Rasis of Venus and Jupiter. > > > > Of course with all yogas one must consider the rest of the horoscope. Any > > thoughts? > > > > Another thing... For any type of serious lying, the morality of the person > > must be seriously flawed. So it would probably also be a good idea to judge > > the fourth house along with it's Lord. > > > > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > ------ > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/954690995/ > > > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > > -- /ChatPage?listName=varahamihira & m=1 > > > > > ------ > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. 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