Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 OM vyam vyasadevaya namah Dear Gurus and fellow students, Here is my attempt. Please correct my mistakes. > EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. > [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. > So Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is > alone and Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works > as the lord of Aq.] > > +----------------------+ > | | | | | > | | | Asc | | > | | Sat | | Glk | > | | | Ven | | > | A2 | A9 | A4 | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | > | AL Mar | | Rah | > | | | | > | Moo Sun | | Ket | > | A7 A8 | | | > |-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------| > | | | | > | | | | > | Jup | C H A R T 2 | HL | > | | | | > | | | | > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| > | | | | | > | GL | Mnd | | | > | | | | | > | Mer | BL | | | > | A5 A6 A10 UL| A11 | | A3 | > +----------------------+ AL - Aqu (using exception) A2 - Pis (using exception) A3 - Vir A4 - Tau (using exception) A5 - Sag (using exception) A6 - Sag A7 - Aqu (mars ownership) A8 - Aqu A9 - Ari A10- Sag (rahu ownership) A11- Sco UL - Sag > EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you > can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step > ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and > which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). > > (1) Learning - 5th house (D-24) > (2) Academic degrees - A4 (D-24) > (3) Devotion - 5th/9th (D-20) > (4) Reciting mantras - 5th house (D-20). I don't think arudha should be taken, since it can/should be recited mentally. Since A5 is mantrapada, probably Arudha should be seen, but I am not sure why. > (5) Feeling sick - 6th house > (6) Being sick and getting treated: Being sick - A6. Getting treated - dusthana from A6. > (7) Boldness - 3rd house > (8) Weapons - A3 > (9) Luck - A9 > (10) Trappings of fortune - A5, A9 > (11) Judgment and discretion - Manifestation of Dharma: A9 > (12) Reputation - A5 > (13) Followers - I am not sure which houses. Arudha should be taken. > (14) Bank balance - A2 (D-2). Maybe Arudha of 2nd house from HL should be seen. I have a couple of other questions that have been bothering me for some time. Can you please clarify? - Learning and formal education (4th,5th) are seen from D-24. But D-24 is for the 12th house in the 2nd cycle. Why do we use D-24 instead of D-16? - Mother and father are seen from 4th and 9th houses. They are in mutual 6th/8th houses. Should they not be in mutual 7th? I am in the middle of exams right now. I will answer the remaining questions in a couple of days. Please forgive my delay. your sishya, ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit http://publish.uwo.ca/~ajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 Anantarupas attempt at lesson 14: EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. So Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is alone and Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works as the lord of Aq.] A1 = Aquarius A2 = Pisces A3 = Virgo A4 = Taurus A5 = Sagittarius A6 = Sagittarius A7 = Aquarius A8 = Aquarius A9 = Aries A10 = Sagittarius A11 = Scorpio A12 = Sagittarius EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). (1) Learning - internal (2) Academic degrees - external (3) Devotion - internal (4) Reciting mantras- external (5) Feeling sick - internal (6) Being sick and getting treated -external (7) Boldness - internal (8) Weapons - external (9) Luck - internal (10) Trappings of fortune - external (11) Judgment and discretion- internal (12) Reputation - external (13) Followers - external (14) Bank balance - internal EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championship in a game. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. a) the sixth from the 10th could show a public spat with a powerful body. Since the reputation of the person was harmed publically I opt for the the sixth from A10 which is the sign Aquarius in the 11th house. b) winning a championship could be house 11 (awards, gains) or house 5 (12th from 6th = enemy´s loss is my gain). As the world championsip is a public event, I guess A5 and A11 are more appropriate and that is Sagittarius in the 9th from Lagna(A5) or Gemini with Moon and Venus in the 3rd house (A11). This sign also contains AL, so it seems more powerful to give the award. c) 2,7 or 8 from A11 could bring loss of championship if afflicted. These are Cancer, Sagittarius and Capricorn. I was not quite sure how to use the hint about the 9th house being a protector, but the ninth from all these rashis has a debilitated planet or a debilitated Lord. d) Aquarius and Cancer aspect each other. Cancer is also aspected by Saturn, Mars and Ketu. Cancer could be the rashi which brought pulic spat and loss of champioship. e) I am not familiar with the computation of Narayan dasha yet. Recently I tried to look up articles in the files section of vedic astrology but the folder was empty. I reasoned that the compilation is underway and that I will wait for that and even more importantly, that I want to wait for the upcoming books to be released. This was my feeble attempt at lesson 14 om namo bhagavate vasudevaya, regards Anantarupa Date of Birth: March 9, 1943 Time of Birth: 2:29:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 87 W 39 Latitude of Birth: 41 N 52 +----------------------+ | | | | AL | | | Asc | | | | Mer | | Sat | Moo | | | GL | | | | | | | Ven | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | JupR | C H A R T 3 | Rah | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | BL | | | | Glk | | | | | | HL | | | | Mar | | | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ OM TAT SAT Archive: varahamihira Info: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Shree Laxmi Ganeshaya Namah Pranaam Gurudev and Narasimha, EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. So Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is alone and Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works as the lord of Aq.] +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Asc | | | | Sat | | Glk | | | | Ven | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | AL Mar | | Rah | | | | | | Moo Sun | | Ket | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Jup | C H A R T 2 | HL | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | GL | Mnd | | | | | | | | | Mer | BL | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Answer: AL=Capricorn A2=Pisces A3=Virgo A4=Taurus A5=Sagittarius A6=Sagittarius A7=Capricorn A8=Capricorn A9=Aries A10=Sagittarius A11=Scorpio UL=Sagittarius EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). Answer: (1) Learning Fourth house (2) Academic degrees A4 lowere degree A9 higher degrees (3) Devotion Fifth house (4) Reciting mantras A5 (5) Feeling sick AL? or can it be pada lagna as it indicates what one thinks or should it be Lagna lord's Graha pada as it would indicate what one desires? (6) Being sick and getting treated Lagna (7) Boldness 3rd from lagna (8) Weapons A3 (9) Luck A9 (10) Trappings of fortune 2nd house (11) Judgment and discretion 5th house? (12) Reputation A10 (13) Followers A5 (What others think about the individual's number of followers) (14) Bank balance 2nd house actual money one has EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championshiop in a game. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. Ans a) A6 in D10 would show how ones enemies/competitors are percieved in public life and their power. A7 shows the people the individual interacts with. A6 is Gemini with moon (royal planet) and Venus(women and luxurius people). So the enemies could be percieved that way. A7 is in capricorn with Ketu(Inteligent,Cunning) aspected by debilitated sun (Royal planet, bad ego etc). so the people interacted by the individual could be of same nature. A7 is 11the house so the individual could actually have some gains from this. (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. Ans b) 11th house indicates gains,gifts and Awards. and A11 should show how titles of championship awarded. So houes where A11 is should show championships A11 is 8th house (guruji once said in case of UL in 8th house that it's a form of rin(debt) ) can this be considered of all other arudhas also?. In this case A11 in 8th (also UL) can we say it's form of debt?. Mars in A11 could indicated gains from Land, Martian activity like sports etc. Also Mars aspects 10th house. © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] Ans c) Taking A11 for championships, 9th from A11 in 8th from it is in Gemini with Moon,Ven,A6 and AL. so 8th from A11 would show it's destructions. and also 2nd and 7th (marakas) from A11 would show loss of championship. (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. Ans d) So chances are that the native could have lost the championship in the Narayana Dasa of Gemini. Middle period(Lord debilitated in 12th house) in trines to A11 or it's trines. or its' lords sign. (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. Ans e) 10th lord in Rasi is Mars. Mars is in Scorpio. Taking Sorpio stronger (Conjuct Mars co-lord) than Taurus. Narayana dasa Sc 3yrs Mar43 to Mar47 Ge 8Yrs Mar47 to Mar55 Cp 8Yrs Mar55 to Mar63 Le 9Yrs Mar63 to Mar72 Pi 2Yrs Mar72 to Mar74 Li 8Yrs Mar74 to Mar82 Ta 1Yrs Mar82 to Mar83 Sg 0Yrs Question: Can Narayana Dasa duration be of 0 Year?. Here the Sg lord is in second from it and debilitated. Cn 1Yrs Mar83 to Mar84 Aq 6Yrs Mar84 to Mar90 Vi 5Yrs Mar90 to Mar95 Ar 7Yrs Mar95 to Mar02 Since Ge is too early. Pi (72-74) could be the year of losing title as it's lord of A6 and trines A11 and also it's the 12 house. Date of Birth: March 9, 1943 Time of Birth: 2:29:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 87 W 39 Latitude of Birth: 41 N 52 +----------------------+ | | | | AL | | | Asc | A4 | | | Mer | | Sat | Moo | | | GL | | | | | | | A6 Ven | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | A2 | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Ket | | | | A7 A8 A9 | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | JupR | C H A R T 3 | Rah | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | A5 |A11 UL | BL | A3 A10 | | | Glk | | | | | | HL | | | | Mar | | | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ My Questions/Doubts: Q1. If Arudhas indicate illision/maya then Why are number of co-borns found from AL (for self) and UL for spouse etc, When co-borns are physically exist? Q1a) Can number of co-borns for parents be similarly found using A4 and A9? Yours Sincerely S.Prabhakaran I did this from my office between work. So please excuse any typos. 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Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Dear Solai, Excellent rely! A few small comments. > (14) Bank balance - Here is my problem, some time back I wanted ask a > question in this regard. It is good that we have the lesson now. > > Dhanam should be seen from the 2nd house. But, one might have billion > dollar, still may feel, he is without dhanam. But, how the world measure or > perceive about that native with respect to physical wealth is to be seen > from 2nd house from AL. > > But, there are other assets, which is not physically available, but the > world perceives that a person is wealthy. Like, the shares. Bill Gates and > Narayana Moorthi are perceived as richest men based on their share price. > But, they are not having the physical wealth on a particular date. I think, > this sort of wealth to be seen from A2. Please, correct me. You are thinking along the right lines. > EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a > quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of > world championshiop in a game. > > (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful > body. Find it in the chart. > > First to identify the powerful body: It seems that the native is a sports > person and his carrier is in sports. We used to see the A10 in Dasamsa for > the work place. In sports also, one is identified by associating with an > organisation by way of winning their trophy or cup. So, A10, being the Rajya > pada also, I selected the A10. Then to see the misunderstanding or > quarrelling, I am looking at the 8th house there from. (The logic I used is > during the dasa period of dusdhana signs from A10, person's lose the job). > Among the dusdhanas 8th is the house of quarrel and battle. So, in my > opinion with my limited knowledge, I think Ar. is the sign responsible for > this. Apart from this, dasamsa lagna is in shastashtaka position with A10. > So, in general this person will have conflicts with whatever organisation he > is associated with. Don't worry about " powerful body " . Just worry about " public spat " . D- 10 shows one's public activities. Which house or arudha in D-10 will show public quarrels? Don't try anything complicated and go by your first instinct. > (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it > in the chart. > > I am not sure which one to take. If it is sports, whether, we should > consider the 5th from 3rd house or not. However, here I am considering the > 5th house for the winning the competition, so it must be A5. During dasa of Yes. If you read standard textbooks, you will see that the 5th house shows success in competition. Obviously, one's true abilities are shown by the 5th house (as they are an internal matter) and one's successes in competitions are shown by A5. One's abilities rise (manifest) in the material world as success in competitions. > the non-dusthana signs, the native is prone to get the championships. So, > here, A5 is Sg. So, the trinal house favours the chances of winning, > especially, 5th from A5. During the Ar. Narayana dasa the native might have > got the championship. As GL also in the Ar., he might have got some fame out > of it. > © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that > trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline > that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a > fundamental principle. Use it!] > > Leo is the Rasi responsible for loss of the championship, it is 9th from Leo is not the rasi responsible for " loss " . It is the rasi responsible for " protection " . The 9th house from anything is its primary protector. If the protection is weak, one loses it. So I see what you mean, but the wording is not quite right. > the A5, afflicted by Rahu and its lord is debilitated and he is also > aspected by Saturn and Ketu. > > (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may > have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. > > I think Ar. Narayana dasa might have brought him all the fame and > championship and it is also the rasi which caused him the damage due the > organisation involved. Leo is aspecting Ar. The result of the dasa should include a public spat and loss of championship. So the rasi must be connected with both. Think again. > (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute > dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. > > As so many factors are involved, I tried my level best. But, I am not > confident > > If the dasa sign is OK, then I can calculate the Narayana dasa period. Excellent attempt. Now rethink the logic! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Dear Ajit, Not only is your attempt excellent, but you raised brilliant questions. This is what I want everyone to do. Read, try to understand and think. If something does not make sense, do ask. > > (4) Reciting mantras - 5th house (D-20). I don't think arudha should > be taken, since it can/should be recited mentally. Since A5 is > mantrapada, probably Arudha should be seen, but I am not sure why. When I said that true houses show what lives inside a person and arudhas show what rises out of them and can be seen by the world, you should not think that arudha padas represent only those things that can be seen by everyone in the world. Yes, mantra recitation can be mental. But, nevertheless, mantra recitation is something that is taking place in the material world. One is reading " Hare Rama Krishna " or " Om Namo Narayanaya " or some other well-defined mantra in a well-defined way. It is an activity that is truly taking place in the material world. In other words, it is a well-defined activity that physically manifests in the material world. On the other hand, what exactly do we mean by one's devotion and bhakti? Are they definable or measurable in a clear way? Do they manifest in the material world in some clearly defined way? No! Devotion and bhakti live inside one. They cannot be seen in the material world. They rise in the material world in the form of mantra recitals, rituals etc. Mantras, even when recited mentally so that others cannot listen, are things that manifest in the material world. So arudhas are appropriate. Mantra pada (A5) is important to see mantra recitation. The 5th house shows the devotion and bhakti in reciting things. This may not be very easy to understand, but give it some thought. The subtle difference between houses and arudhas is very vital for doing intelligent astrological analysis. Light will come to one when one is destined. Ponder over this by yourself. > I have a couple of other questions that have been bothering me for some > time. Can you please clarify? > > - Learning and formal education (4th,5th) are seen from D-24. But D- 24 > is for the 12th house in the 2nd cycle. Why do we use D-24 instead of > D-16? Learning basically has to do with evolution. As we learn, we evolve intellectually. Evolution is shown by the 12th house. The 4th house shows well-being and the 9th house shows protection. This is why D-16 governs the mental sense of well-being. So it shows luxuries, comforts etc. > - Mother and father are seen from 4th and 9th houses. They are in mutual > 6th/8th houses. Should they not be in mutual 7th? D-12 shows evolution in the physical plane. The 4th house shows well- being and it shows mother. The 9th house shows protection and it shows father. But the 4th and 9th houses basically show well-being and protection. Actual mother and father are better seen in respective paka and arudha lagnas rather than just 4th and 9th houses. > I am in the middle of exams right now. I will answer the remaining questions > in a couple of days. Please forgive my delay. Don't worry. All the best for exams. > your sishya, > > ajit May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Dear Anantarupa, Very good attempt! > > (1) Learning - internal > > (2) Academic degrees - external > > (3) Devotion - internal > > (4) Reciting mantras- external > > (5) Feeling sick - internal > > (6) Being sick and getting treated -external > > (7) Boldness - internal > > (8) Weapons - external > > (9) Luck - internal > > (10) Trappings of fortune - external > > (11) Judgment and discretion- internal > > (12) Reputation - external > > (13) Followers - external > > (14) Bank balance - internal Why is bank balance an internal matter and not a matter rising in the material world? One's sustenance is seen in the 2nd house. It shows food, money etc. They all sustain self. BTW, the 9th from 2nd is 10th. So karma (career - 10th) is the primary protector (9th) of sustenance (2nd)! The true sustenance of a person may not have anything to do with how much money he has, but we form an impression based on one's wealth. > > EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He > > had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was > > stripped of world championship in a game. > > > > (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful > > body. Find it in the chart. > > (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find > > it in the chart. > > © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember > > that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent > > guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. > > This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] > > (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may > > have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. > > (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, > > compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. > > a) the sixth from the 10th could show a public spat with a powerful > body. Since the reputation of the person was harmed publically I opt > for the the sixth from A10 which is the sign Aquarius in the 11th house. A10 shows how one's karma (activities) manifest in the material world. The 6th house from there show obstructions to the same. It is a good answer, but there is something that governs public spats more directly. First think of what shows " quarrels " . Which house? Then think what exactly will that house will show and what exactly its arudha will show. > b) winning a championship could be house 11 (awards, gains) or house 5 > (12th from 6th = enemy´s loss is my gain). > As the world championsip is a public event, I guess A5 and A11 are more > appropriate and that is Sagittarius in the 9th from Lagna(A5) or > Gemini with Moon and Venus in the 3rd house (A11). This sign also > contains AL, so it seems more powerful to give the award. The 11th house shows gains. The 5th shows intelligence, abilities etc. Success in competitions is the illusion related to intelligence and abilities. So A5 is more relevant than A11. > c) 2,7 or 8 from A11 could bring loss of championship if afflicted. > These are Cancer, Sagittarius and Capricorn. I was not quite sure how to > use the hint about the 9th house being a protector, but the ninth from > all these rashis has a debilitated planet or a debilitated Lord. > > d) Aquarius and Cancer aspect each other. Cancer is also aspected by > Saturn, Mars and Ketu. Cancer could be the rashi which brought pulic > spat and loss > of champioship. > > e) I am not familiar with the computation of Narayan dasha yet. Recently That is fine. You will learn it sooner or later. I hope to teach more actively on varahamihira after a couple of months. > I tried to look up articles in the files section of vedic astrology but > the folder was empty. I reasoned that the compilation is underway and > that I will wait for that and even more importantly, that I want to wait > for the upcoming books to be released. It's not in the files section. Read the archives (old messages). Or search the messages for keywords. Or wait for Sanjay's book on Narayana dasa (or lessons here). > This was my feeble attempt at lesson 14 This was not at all feeble. Keep it up! > om namo bhagavate vasudevaya, regards > > Anantarupa May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Dear Prabhakaran, Your attempt has been one of the best so far! > Answer: > AL=Capricorn Your meant Aq, right? Lagna lord Venus is in lagna (Ta). See again. > A2=Pisces > A3=Virgo > A4=Taurus > A5=Sagittarius > A6=Sagittarius > A7=Capricorn > A8=Capricorn Again, you meant Aq for A7 and A8, right? I suspect you computed correctly but got confused with names and thought Aq was Cp. > A9=Aries > A10=Sagittarius > A11=Scorpio > UL=Sagittarius > (5) Feeling sick > AL? or can it be pada lagna as it indicates what one thinks > or should it be Lagna lord's Graha pada as it would indicate > what one desires? > (6) Being sick and getting treated > Lagna Which houses govern sickness? Of course, lagna's weakness may show sickness. But, are there some specific houses for sickness? > (7) Boldness > 3rd from lagna > (8) Weapons > A3 > (9) Luck > A9 > (10) Trappings of fortune > 2nd house Why not A9? > (11) Judgment and discretion > 5th house? > (12) Reputation > A10 A10 will certainly have a role in reputation as it shows the manifestation of one's karma (activities) in society. But isn't the 5th house more relevant for reputation? > EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He > had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was > stripped of world championshiop in a game. > > (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a > powerful body. Find it in the chart. > > Ans a) > A6 in D10 would show how ones enemies/competitors are percieved in > public life and their power. A7 shows the people the individual > interacts with. > A6 is Gemini with moon (royal planet) and Venus(women and luxurius > people). So the enemies could be percieved that way. Excellent! A6 is very relevant for seeing a public spat. But, while you are there, I want you to ponder over this: The 6th house is supposed to show disappointments, enemies and enmity. Now, what exactly will the 6th house show and what exactly will A6 show? Try to ponder over this! > A7 is in capricorn with Ketu(Inteligent,Cunning) aspected by > debilitated sun (Royal planet, bad ego etc). so the people > interacted by the individual could be of same nature. A7 > is 11the house so the individual could actually have some > gains from this. > > (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find > it in the chart. > > Ans b) > 11th house indicates gains,gifts and Awards. and A11 should show how > titles of championship awarded. So houes where A11 is should show > championships > A11 is 8th house (guruji once said in case of UL in 8th house that > it's a form of rin(debt) ) can this be considered of all other > arudhas also?. > In this case A11 in 8th (also UL) can we say it's form of debt?. > Mars in A11 could indicated gains from Land, Martian activity > like sports etc. Also Mars aspects 10th house. See my answers to others. Why isn't 5th involved? May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Dear Narasimha ji, pranaam Many thanks for correcting my and others attempts at lesson 14. You are a very good teacher. You encourage independent analytical thought and you explain things clearly and systematically. I really appreciate that because when I was living in India it was virtually impossible to find a Jyotisha teacher who was willing or able to share his knowledge freely. So to me, finding a Jyotisha guru like yourself or Sanjay ji is really a type of Bhagagavans kripa. > Why is bank balance an internal matter and not a matter rising in the > material world? Most people keep their actual bank balance secret. In Switzerland there was a case of a man who led a modest life but when he died it was discovered that he had a huge bank balance. That is why I thought that bank balance is an internal affair (2nd house rather than A2). Based on your comments I take another shot at it: 6th house shows the feelings of enmity one harbours or the fear of enemy one has. A6 shows the public fight or litigation one engages in based on those feelings. So Gemini which contains A6 can be the rashi which shows public spat with a powerful body. Sagittarius contains A5. It can bring victory in a championship, particularly because it is also in nine from Lagna and 7th from AL. The common link between A6 and A5 are the common rashis (Sag. Gem.Pis.Vir) because they aspect each other. Out of these Sagittarius is the weakest as the ninth from it, Leo, has powerful affliction by Rahu and its Lord, Sun is debilitated and afflicted by Saturn and again Rahu. Thus Sagittarius could have brought both victory, public spat and loss of championship. Another candidate could be Capricorn because it is the second (maraka) from A5 and 8th (curtailed longevity) of A6 (being afflicted by three malefics and containing deb. Jupiter). But because you specifically mentioned " find the common link " i opt for Sagittarius. Regards Anantarupa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 OM vyam vyasadevaya namah Dear Gurus and fellow students, Please correct my understanding once again. 3rd house shows true valour which is unmanifest, and A3 will show combat & weapons, which are the related to valour, but only exist in this world. I have a question. What does 3rd from AL show? I know it shows how others will perceive you, but there are a few possibilities. It could show how others perceive your combat & weapons. It could also show how others perceive your valour through your combat. Does it show both? Is it possible to see how someone in particular sees you in relation to some matter? You may be very rich, and everyone may think you are rich, but your father may think that you are very poor. How can you see what your father thinks of your wealth? > > I have a couple of other questions that have been bothering me for some > > time. Can you please clarify? Thank you for for these answers. I have to think about it some more. your sishya, ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit http://publish.uwo.ca/~ajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Exercise 1: A1 is in Aq; A2--Pi; A3--Vi; A4--Ta; A5--Sg; A6--Sg; A7--Aq; A8--Aq: A9--Ar; A10--Ge; A11--Sc; UL--Sg Exercise 2: Learning: inside; fourth house as the contents of education (in distinction to fifth house as native thinking ability/intelligence); some might say second house as early learning; ninth house as refined, higher learning. Also, D-24 and 2, 4 and 9 houses in it.. Academic degrees: external; A4 for basic degrees; A9 for university/advanced degrees Also, D-24 and A4 and A9 in it. Devotion: inside; fifth house as the strength, quality and effectiveness of one's practices; ninth house as the strength, quality and effectiveness of finding a relation to guidance and wisdom; first house as one's innate character and type of philosophy. Also, D-9 and D-20 and their 1st, 5th, 9th houses. Reciting mantras: external, A5. Also D-9 and D-20 and A5 in them. Possibly there may be some effect shown in D-5, normally used for political power, and A5 in it. Feeling sick: internal: sixth house especially when it impinges on first house; eighth house. Also, D-6, D-30, perhaps D-8. Being sick and getting treated: external: A6 and A8 Also, A6 and A8 in D-6, D-30 and D-8. A8 in D-8 should refer to death or fatal sickness. Boldness: internal: 3rd house. Also, D-27. Weapons: external: A3. Also A3 in D-27. Luck: internal. Ninth house. Also D-9. Trappings of fortune: external: A9. Also, A9 in D-9. Judgement and discretion: internal. Ninth house for judgement in the sense of wisdom, also tenth house for discretion in the sense of knowing how to proceed. Tenth house because these are factors of experience, the synthesized outcome of everything, the final executive mind a person oper: Also, D-10 and its tenth house for direction and judgement. D-9 for wisdom and perspective. Reputation: external: A10 Also, A10 in D10. Followers: external. Fifth house for successors and students; eleventh house for friends and secret supporters. Eleventh house for friends; A11 for "followers" in the sense of those the world identifies as backers of someone, say the party of a political candidate. Also A11 in D-5. Bank balance: external. A2. Also A2 in D-2. Perhaps also pada of second from HL in D-2! Exercise 3: a) public spat : A6 Here it is Gem with Moon and Ven, showing the issue might be drugs, with db Merc in 10th from it, showing poor judgement as the basis of the spat. Ketu in 9th from A6 shows the withdrawal of due protection from the native. Graha drishti of Mars shows native's desire to wreak vengeance on the public body. b) winning championship: A11 Here it is Scorpio in 10th from11th house. With co-lord Mars in it shows strength or speed contest of some kind. Lord of A11 being Ketu in 11th itself suggests the outcome-- fourth from A11 is outcome of A11 win-- denial of the victory though due. Ju retro and debilitated in third from A11 shows very poor grace in accepting the stripping. But Ketu in fixed sign shows an irrevocable fact. c) losing championship One could have taken another tack for winning and said it is A10. This would be Virgo, with both Jup and Sat in trines. Sat in the ninth would also deny protection. Db Mer as lord of A10 in seventh from it shows the reversal of the victory. extra credit: is the person deserving of losing the championship? lagna is Aries, which has argala from Saturn, but not from Ketu (since Ketu makes argalas in reverse direction and being in 11th from Aries would be like the third from any other graha. But Ketu is a benefic so the argalas in third in case of malefics do not apply.) . Therefore the person's acts are not pure mistakes but have some element of Saturnian wrongdoing, or at best neglect of some precaution that could have been taken. AL is Gemini and includes the dispositors of db Sun and Saturn so some passive-aggressiveness or defiance of authority must be part of the apparent behavior of the person. d) Most likely Narayan dasa is Virgo, with Gemini in tenth from it. Bhukti could be Gem or Scorpio. e) Current dasa is Virgo. Taking bhuktis from stronger of first or seventh from dasa rasi, choose Pisces in seventh giving results in opposite house. Sag giving results in Gemini would be Jun '00 to Nov '00. Thanks for the lesson. Humbly submitted Sat Nam Sat Siri Kaur Rag Asa, Guru Nanak Lakh laskar lakh vaje neje lakh uth karaih salaam Lakha upar furmaees teri lakh uth rakaih maan Jan pat lekhai na pavai tan sabh niraphal kaam Hundreds of thousands of armies, banners, lances may salute you Your orders may be carried out far and wide with great respect If your honor is not approved by Him then all efforts are useless Exercise 1: A1 is in Aq; A2--Pi; A3--Vi; A4--Ta; A5--Sg; A6--Sg; A7--Aq; A8--Aq: A9--Ar; A10--Ge; A11--Sc; UL--Sg Exercise 2: Learning: inside; fourth house as the contents of education (in distinction to fifth house as native thinking ability/intelligence); some might say second house as early learning; ninth house as refined, higher learning. Also, D-24 and 2, 4 and 9 houses in it.. Academic degrees: external; A4 for basic degrees; A9 for university/advanced degrees Also, D-24 and A4 and A9 in it. Devotion: inside; fifth house as the strength, quality and effectiveness of one's practices; ninth house as the strength, quality and effectiveness of finding a relation to guidance and wisdom; first house as one's innate character and type of philosophy. Also, D-9 and D-20 and their 1st, 5th, 9th houses. Reciting mantras: external, A5. Also D-9 and D-20 and A5 in them. Possibly there may be some effect shown in D-5, normally used for political power, and A5 in it. Feeling sick: internal: sixth house especially when it impinges on first house; eighth house. Also, D-6, D-30, perhaps D-8. Being sick and getting treated: external: A6 and A8 Also, A6 and A8 in D-6, D-30 and D-8. A8 in D-8 should refer to death or fatal sickness. Boldness: internal: 3rd house. Also, D-27. Weapons: external: A3. Also A3 in D-27. Luck: internal. Ninth house. Also D-9. Trappings of fortune: external: A9. Also, A9 in D-9. Judgement and discretion: internal. Ninth house for judgement in the sense of wisdom, also tenth house for discretion in the sense of knowing how to proceed. Tenth house because these are factors of experience, the synthesized outcome of everything, the final executive mind a person oper: Also, D-10 and its tenth house for direction and judgement. D-9 for wisdom and perspective. Reputation: external: A10 Also, A10 in D10. Followers: external. Fifth house for successors and students; eleventh house for friends and secret supporters. Eleventh house for friends; A11 for "followers" in the sense of those the world identifies as backers of someone, say the party of a political candidate. Also A11 in D-5. Bank balance: external. A2. Also A2 in D-2. Perhaps also pada of second from HL in D-2! Exercise 3: a) public spat : A6 Here it is Gem with Moon and Ven, showing the issue might be drugs, with db Merc in 10th from it, showing poor judgement as the basis of the spat. Ketu in 9th from A6 shows the withdrawal of due protection from the native. Graha drishti of Mars shows native's desire to wreak vengeance on the public body. b) winning championship: A11 Here it is Scorpio in 10th from11th house. With co-lord Mars in it shows strength or speed contest of some kind. Lord of A11 being Ketu in 11th itself suggests the outcome-- fourth from A11 is outcome of A11 win-- denial of the victory though due. Ju retro and debilitated in third from A11 shows very poor grace in accepting the stripping. But Ketu in fixed sign shows an irrevocable fact. c) losing championship One could have taken another tack for winning and said it is A10. This would be Virgo, with both Jup and Sat in trines. Sat in the ninth would also deny protection. Db Mer as lord of A10 in seventh from it shows the reversal of the victory. extra credit: is the person deserving of losing the championship? lagna is Aries, which has argala from Saturn, but not from Ketu (since Ketu makes argalas in reverse direction and being in 11th from Aries would be like the third from any other graha. But Ketu is a benefic so the argalas in third in case of malefics do not apply.) . Therefore the person's acts are not pure mistakes but have some element of Saturnian wrongdoing, or at best neglect of some precaution that could have been taken. AL is Gemini and includes the dispositors of db Sun and Saturn so some passive-aggressiveness or defiance of authority must be part of the apparent behavior of the person. d) Most likely Narayan dasa is Virgo, with Gemini in tenth from it. Bhukti could be Gem or Scorpio. e) Current dasa is Virgo. Taking bhuktis from stronger of first or seventh from dasa rasi, choose Pisces in seventh giving results in opposite house. Sag giving results in Gemini would be Jun '00 to Nov '00. Thanks for the lesson. Humbly submitted Sat Nam Sat Siri Kaur Rag Asa, Guru Nanak Lakh laskar lakh vaje neje lakh uth karaih salaam Lakha upar furmaees teri lakh uth rakaih maan Jan pat lekhai na pavai tan sabh niraphal kaam Hundreds of thousands of armies, banners, lances may salute you Your orders may be carried out far and wide with great respect If your honor is not approved by Him then all efforts are useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Om Krisna Guru ! Hare Rama Krisna ! Here is my attempt to lesson 14 : ANSWER: AL:11,A2:12,A3:6,A4:2,A5:12,A6:9,A7:2,A8:11,A9:4, A10:3,A11:8,A12:9 EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). 1. Learning -internal-5th house in rasi & D-24 2. Academic degrees -external-A9 in D-24 3. Devotion -internal-5th housein rasi & D-20 4. Reciting mantras-external-A5 in D-20 5. Feeling sick -internal- 6th house and A6(diease) 6. Being sick and getting treated -inter and external- A6 and 12 from A6 is loss of diease means recovery 7. Boldness-internal and external-3rd 8. Weapons external- A3 9. Luck -ext and int- 9th house 10. Trappings of fortune - A9 11. Judgment and discretion - internal-5th house 12. Reputation -external- A5 or 5th house from AL 13. Followers - external-A5 in D-10, D-20(disciple) 14. Bank balance - 2nd and A2 Exercise - 3 Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championshiop in a game. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. D-10 shows carrer and A10 in D-10 shows reputation incarreer. Now 8 house from A-10 in D-10 shows dipute/conflicts (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. Winning is 5 house. Now winnig in general is A-5. If its winning related to it profession, then A-5 in D-10 © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] Loss is 12th house. Loss of championship which is 12 house from A-5 in D-10 (d). I don't know the concept of Narayan Dasa. Waiting for shri.Sanjay Rath's book. Please correct me. Thanks. Minu Desai Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Om Krishnaaya Namah Pranaam Narasimha, EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. So Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is alone and Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works as the lord of Aq.] Arudha Lagna is in Aquarius Dhana Pada is in Pisces Bhratri Pada is in Virgo Matri Pada is in Taurus Mantra Pada is in Sagittarius Roga Pada is in Sagittarius Dara Pada is in Aquarius Mrtyu Pada is in Aquarius Guru Pada is in Aries Karma Pada is in Sagittarius Labha Pada is in Scorpio Upa Pada is in Sagittarius EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). (1) Learning - fourth house - assuming it's related to education (2) Academic degrees - A4 (3) Devotion - fifth house (4) Reciting mantras - A5 (5) Feeling sick - sixth house (6) Being sick and getting treated - A6 (7) Boldness - third house (8) Weapons - A3 (9) Luck - ninth house (10) Trappings of fortune - A9 (11) Judgment and discretion - fifth house (12) Reputation - fifth/tenth house (13) Followers - A5 (14) Bank balance - A2 EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championshiop in a game. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. The sixth house shows enemies. A6 shows public problems with them. A6 is in Gemini. (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. Contests and competitions are shown in the fifth house. As winning a championship is a maya-related thing, A5 is the area to watch. A5 is in Sagittarius. © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] If A5 shows success in competitions, the ninth from it protects this success. If this protection is weak i.e. if the ninth from A5 is afflicted, then loss of championships may occur. The ninth from A5 is Leo (with Rahu in an enemies sign! Yikes!!!) (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. Libra contains the Lord of the house of protection debilitated and aspected by three malefics, with no relief from benefics. Furthermore, the Lord of Libra is situated in A6. Therefore Libra may bring about this event. (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. Libra's Narayana Dasha runs from 1972-1980. Therefore the dispute and Loss of championship may have occured during this period of time. Thanks for your time, Hare Krishna, Pursottam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Dear Anantarupa, > Dear Narasimha ji, pranaam > > Many thanks for correcting my and others attempts at lesson 14. > You are a very good teacher. You encourage independent analytical thought > and you explain things clearly and systematically. I really appreciate that > because when I was living in India it was virtually impossible to find a > Jyotisha teacher who was willing or able to share his knowledge freely. So > to me, finding a Jyotisha guru like yourself or Sanjay ji is really a type > of Bhagagavans kripa. I am glad you feel that way. Giving fine knowledge to anyone indiscriminately may be wrong. But, when there is a worthy student, we should give him/her everything we have. I found that more knowledge and insight comes to me as I share what I know with others. > > Why is bank balance an internal matter and not a matter rising in the > > material world? > > Most people keep their actual bank balance secret. In Switzerland there was By " internal matter " , I do not mean a secret that the world does not know. One's happiness from vehicle, one's intelligence, one's abilities, one's boldness, one's devotion etc LIVE WITHIN oneself. The point is not really whether the world can see them or they are secrets. The point is that those are all things that live inside one. They do not have a clear and measurable definition or manifestation in the materail world. A bank account, a palace (or house), a vehicle, an academic degree, an award, a position of power etc are all clearly defined and EXIST in the material world. Aarudhas (risen ones) show what rises in the material world. If something rises in the material world, it does NOT mean everyone can see it!! It can be a secret (like the bank balance in your example). Nevertheless, it materially manifests in this world. On the other hand, abilities, intelligence, happiness, devotion etc are totally internal matters that are subjective. Try to ponder over this and re-read the above if necessary. > a case of a man who led a modest life but when he died it was discovered > that he had a huge bank balance. That is why I thought that bank balance is > an internal affair (2nd house rather than A2). Houses from lagna qualify the true self. They show properties of true self. Houses from arudha lagna qualify the perceived self. They show properties of one's *image*. Arudhas of houses show relevant things that really and materially exist (house, car, bank account, wife, real friends, weapons etc etc). There are 3 things here. For example, take the 5th house. The 5th house shows one's true abilities. The 5th from arudha lagna shows the abilities of the perceived self (one's image). That controls how capable peple think one is. A5 shows the material manifestation of one's abilities. The three are three totally different things. Understand what each stands for, if you want to excel in Jyotish. > Based on your comments I take another shot at it: > > 6th house shows the feelings of enmity one harbours or the fear of enemy one > has. > A6 shows the public fight or litigation one engages in based on those > feelings. So Gemini which contains A6 can be the rashi which shows public > spat with > a powerful body. Perfect! Out of everything I have read so far, you expressed it most accurately. The 6th house shows the feelings of enmity, obstacles and disappointments as faced by one's true self. A6 shows how this manifest materially, which could mean a physical quarrel or argument or spat. > Sagittarius contains A5. It can bring victory in a championship, > particularly because it is also in nine from Lagna and 7th from AL. > > The common link between A6 and A5 are the common rashis (Sag. Gem.Pis.Vir) > because they aspect each other. Out of these Sagittarius is the weakest as > the ninth from it, Leo, has powerful affliction by Rahu and its Lord, Sun is > debilitated and afflicted by Saturn and again Rahu. Thus Sagittarius could > have brought both victory, public spat and loss of championship. What about Libra? It has the weak protector of chamiponship (Sun) and its lord is in A6 showing a spat! > Another candidate could be Capricorn because it is the second (maraka) from > A5 and 8th (curtailed longevity) of A6 (being afflicted by three malefics > and containing deb. Jupiter). But because you specifically mentioned " find > the common link " i opt for Sagittarius. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Dear Minu, You have made excellent progress since you came here! Keep it up! Do read the other replies by me and others. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Om Krisna Guru ! > Hare Rama Krisna ! > > Here is my attempt to lesson 14 : > > ANSWER: > AL:11,A2:12,A3:6,A4:2,A5:12,A6:9,A7:2,A8:11,A9:4, > A10:3,A11:8,A12:9 > > EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using > standard references, you can figure out the relevant > house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: > Identify which of the matters live inside a native > (true houses) and which of them rise in the material > world (arudhas). > > 1. Learning -internal-5th house in rasi & D-24 > 2. Academic degrees -external-A9 in D-24 > 3. Devotion -internal-5th housein rasi & D-20 > 4. Reciting mantras-external-A5 in D-20 > 5. Feeling sick -internal- 6th house and A6(diease) > 6. Being sick and getting treated -inter and > external- A6 and 12 from A6 is loss of diease > means recovery > 7. Boldness-internal and external-3rd > 8. Weapons external- A3 > 9. Luck -ext and int- 9th house > 10. Trappings of fortune - A9 > 11. Judgment and discretion - internal-5th house > 12. Reputation -external- A5 or 5th house from AL > 13. Followers - external-A5 in D-10, D-20(disciple) > 14. Bank balance - 2nd and A2 > > Exercise - 3 > > Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. > He had a quarrel with an international organization, > over which he was stripped of world championshiop in a > game. > > (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat > with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. > > D-10 shows carrer and A10 in D-10 shows reputation > incarreer. > Now 8 house from A-10 in D-10 shows dipute/conflicts > > (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a > championship. Find it in the chart. > > Winning is 5 house. Now winnig in general is A-5. > If its winning related to it profession, then A-5 > in D-10 > > © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. > [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its > prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that > the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. > This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] > > Loss is 12th house. Loss of championship which is 12 > house from A-5 in D-10 > > (d). I don't know the concept of Narayan Dasa. Waiting > for shri.Sanjay Rath's book. > > Please correct me. > > Thanks. > > Minu Desai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 My dear Pursottam (Purushottam), Brilliant! You got everything right, including the optional part of exercise 3. Keep it up! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Om Krishnaaya Namah > > Pranaam Narasimha, > > EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. > [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. So > Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is alone and > Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works as the lord of > Aq.] > > Arudha Lagna is in Aquarius > Dhana Pada is in Pisces > Bhratri Pada is in Virgo > Matri Pada is in Taurus > Mantra Pada is in Sagittarius > Roga Pada is in Sagittarius > Dara Pada is in Aquarius > Mrtyu Pada is in Aquarius > Guru Pada is in Aries > Karma Pada is in Sagittarius > Labha Pada is in Scorpio > Upa Pada is in Sagittarius > > EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you > can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step > ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and > which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). > > (1) Learning - fourth house - assuming it's related to education > (2) Academic degrees - A4 > (3) Devotion - fifth house > (4) Reciting mantras - A5 > (5) Feeling sick - sixth house > (6) Being sick and getting treated - A6 > (7) Boldness - third house > (8) Weapons - A3 > (9) Luck - ninth house > (10) Trappings of fortune - A9 > (11) Judgment and discretion - fifth house > (12) Reputation - fifth/tenth house > (13) Followers - A5 > (14) Bank balance - A2 > > EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a > quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of > world championshiop in a game. > > (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. > Find it in the chart. > > The sixth house shows enemies. A6 shows public problems with them. A6 is in > Gemini. > > (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in > the chart. > > Contests and competitions are shown in the fifth house. As winning a > championship is a maya-related thing, A5 is the area to watch. A5 is in > Sagittarius. > > © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that > trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline > that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a > fundamental principle. Use it!] > > If A5 shows success in competitions, the ninth from it protects this > success. If this protection is weak i.e. if the ninth from A5 is afflicted, > then loss of championships may occur. The ninth from A5 is Leo (with Rahu in > an enemies sign! Yikes!!!) > > (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have > resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. > > Libra contains the Lord of the house of protection debilitated and aspected > by three malefics, with no relief from benefics. Furthermore, the Lord of > Libra is situated in A6. Therefore Libra may bring about this event. > > (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute > dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. > > Libra's Narayana Dasha runs from 1972-1980. Therefore the dispute and Loss > of championship may have occured during this period of time. > > Thanks for your time, > > Hare Krishna, > > Pursottam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Namasthe Narasimha and all, Thanks for the time to do the lesson. I try my best and like to forward to you for correction. EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championship in a game. General observations; Sun, Jupiter and Mercury debilitated in D10 bring lot of success and wealth to the native while Mercury and Jupiter giving a Viparita Raja Yoga (in Rasi and D10). He may have enjoyed lot of power as well, since Sun is 7th from GL in D10 and Rasi. The best or powerful Graha is Sun and the Rasi is Leo in D10. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. I think the nature of the body must be seen from Lagna and D10have nothing to do with that. The strength of indicated by lagna; having Mars in Kendra (Ruchaka Yoga) from Lagna and Moon native had powerful body. Public relations related to achievements can be seen from 7th house in D10. This could be his true nature and debilitated Sun in 7th house with malefic Saturn and Rahu aspects made lot of negative results. How ever, what rises through his action in public must be seen from A7 in D10. A7 is trine from AL is good for relationship, but the lord Saturn in A4 in D10. This made others to think that he is some one who having lack of happiness and in fact he was, as only malefic aspects his 4th in D10. 2nd house from lagna and AL afflicted by Saturn and Rahu indicate his argument qualities. A10 in kendra to AL indicate fortunate career (to out siders), but in 6th and kendra form A6 indicate his career could cause enemies as well. A10 of D10 in 6th house, made him to work in a enmity envoirement with lot of competitors and THIS IS THE 4TH FROM AL (HIS HAPPYNESS ACORDING TO OTHERS) AND A6 ( ENEMIE'S HAPYNESS ACORDING TO OTHERS). This complicated combination given him to work in a competitive envoirment with ongoing competitors. ( I cannot understand what sort of game was but, Strong Mars in D1, and Mercury in 10th from Moon in D10 could be indicate some thing) (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. His ability and strength to reach a goal is 5th and his scores is A5 in D10. A5 is in 9th house and the lord id in 10th, debilitated Jupiter is strong to give lot of success. Capricorn (with Jupiter )is aspected by Leo and Leo is owned by royal planets who bring lot of wealth and power. In addition to that, Leo occupied by Rahu and upachaya to AL bring lot of material gains. When Leo, Rahu, activate he can get maximum material benefic like championships etc. © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] Leo is 9th from A5 and protect his reputation. Virgo is 2nd ( maraka) to 5th and Virgo can bring end of his fortune. So he could have loss his championship in Virgo D10 Narayana Maha/ Sub dasa. (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. A5 in D10 is his reputation and it is protected 9th from it LEO who own Sun (Maha Yogada). In addition to protection Leo bring material rise as Rahu in it and in 3rd from AL. (Non of the other single rasi aspect GL,HL and siting in upachaya from AL). Virgo is the place belongs to competitors and Maraka for protector of his reputation. Virgo given the rise to enemies. (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. Narayana Dasa for D10 below. Leo is running from age 19 to 28 is the period he had championship and all benificial results.Next dasa is Pisces who aspects Virgo may be he loss the champion ship. Mercury is the lord of enemy or competitors and 7th from dasa sign. ====================================== Thanks Hare Krshna Karu -------------------------------- Lord of the 10th house is in Scorpio in D10. Stronger from Scorpio and Taurus is Scorpio. Dasa progression as follows. Scorpio 3 years age 1-3 ( Ketu Gemini 8 years 3-11 Capricorn 8 years 11-19 Leo 9 years 19-28 Pisces 1 year 28-29 Libra 8 years 29-37 Taurus 1 year 37-38 Saggitt 0 Cancer 1 year 38-39 Aquarius 6 years 39-45 (Rahu stronger) Virgo 5 years 45-50 Aries 7 years 50-57 Date of Birth: March 9, 1943 Time of Birth: 2:29:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 87 W 39 Latitude of Birth: 41 N 52 +----------------------+ | | | | AL | | | Asc | | | | Mer | | Sat | Moo | | | GL | | | | | | | Ven | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | JupR | C H A R T 3 | Rah | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | BL | | | | Glk | | | | | | HL | | | | Mar | | | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Narasimha, My fingers seem to be too quick on the 'send " button. Just wanted to add In Leo dasa in the example chart, Saturn ruler of the 6th from Leo is in the 10th and is aspected by Mars. Lagna is Aquarius, from which D-10 is in the 8th house. Hence spat with powerful international body in this period. Am I right? --aphoton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Om Krishnaaya Namah Pranaam Narasimha, Thanks for your e-mail and encouragement. As you said Libra was the correct Narayana Dasha, I have attempted to narrow down the timing, although I've stuck primarily to Vimshottari as I don't feel as confident with Narayana Dasha interpretation. I have however used it to compliment and support my analysis. I would appreciate your (and anyone else's) comments. You have indicated that Libra's Dashamsha Narayana Dasha, running from 1972 to 1980 was the period the event happened. Picking up from there. The Vimshottari Mahadasha at the time was that of the Moon. In the rashi, the Moon is the Lord of the Lagna in the tenth house, and he is waxing. His dispositor is yogakaraka Mars, exalted in the seventh, and aspecting his own tenth. One would therefore expect fairly good results in career matters and fame at least during parts of Moon Mahadasha. In the Navamsha, these indications are confirmed, where the Moon is the in the eleventh house of gains aspected by yogakaraka Mars, although here is also rules the twelfth house of losses, hinting that the native may face losses. In the Dashamsha, Chandra Deva is in the third house (boldness) in A6 suggesting that the native may publicly show bold behaviour e.g. confronting his opponents and enemies. The Moon is however also associated with Dashamsha maraka Venus, and is aspected by the eighth Lord Mars. The Moon's dispositor is debilitated in the twelfth of loses. Combining these indications, one might suggest that whilst the earlier part of Moon Mahadasha may bring career success and fame, one may have problems with enemies, and these will cause loses to the native leading to the native facing some sort of a 'death' in his/her career. Antardasha's - Libra Narayana Dasha begins in 3/1972. Mars antardasha begins in 4/1972, running until 11/1972. Mars is yogakaraka in the rashi chart, and is exalted in a Kendra forming a Ruchaka Yoga. He is very strong. In the Navamsha, he is again the yogakaraka and is in parivartana with Jupiter. He has no afflictions. In the Dashamsha, he is the Lagna Lord, in his own house in the eighth, this time aspecting Saturn. But Saturn is the Lord of the tenth and eleventh. By Rasi Drishti, he is aspected by Jupiter, the ninth and (twelfth Lord). Overall, Mars is an extremely strong planet, and to me appears to be showing Dridha karma related to success in career. Appearing in the Moon's Mahadasha, Mars's antardasha must have brought great fame, and popularity, even though it is just the beginning of Libra Narayana Dasha, which, rather blatently, is afflicted. In particular, three planets hit me as being the antardashas who could bring about the dispute and consequent loss - Mercury, Jupiter and Rahu. Rahu's bhukti runs from 11/1972 up till 5/1974. In the Dashamsha, he is in the fifth, thus weakening the protection of A5. His dispostor is debiliatated. On the other hand, Rahu is aspected by both trinal Lords and even though they are both debilitated, they must act as a strengthening factor. Furthermore, in the Rashi he is not in anyway severely afflicted (at least compared to the other two) and in the Navamsha, he is in a nice trine, associated with the benefic Jupiter. He sponges all these nice qualities and instead will cause Jupiter to give bad effects, as explained in Phaladipika. So Rahu is not such a serious threat, I don't think. In fact he may still give benefits although, his dasha allows the protection of A5 to be attacked. Jupiter and Mercury are more serious. In the Rashi, Mercury is the twelfth Lord (of Loss) and also A6 (physical manifestations of conflicts with enemies). He is in the eighth, afflicted by the nodal axis, and by Saturn. There is a natural benefic aspect from Jupiter, although he rules the sixth of enemies, and ninth as well. Some relief may come from being hemmed in between Venus and the yogakaraka, although Mercury bhukti's will probably bring about health problems especially as Mercury rules A6, which shows the physical appearance and diagnosis etc. of being sick, and the Rashi chart is concerned with the body in particular. In the Dashamsha Mercury is the Lord of the sixth and A6 debilitated in the twelfth, indicating Loss due to problems with enemies. However Mercury is supported by two benefics who cast their rashi drishti on Him. Finally Jupiter, who I think gets my vote. Jupiter is the Lord of the sixth in the twelfth in the Rashi chart, aspecting the Lord of the twelfth and of A6, the theme of Loss due to public problems with enemies again repeating itself. In the Navamsha, while he is the fifth Lord, all his good effects are sponged away by Rahu, and Jupiter is left to act in a malefic way. It's rather like films where you see Rahu has just mugged Jupiter, taken his clothes and left Jupiter his. Rahu's in disguise :-) The most powerful indication comes from the Dashamsha where Jupiter is the Lord of A5 and of the twelfth, and he is severely afflicted. He is debilitated in the tenth of karma, while aspected by three powerful papas, Mars, Saturn and Rahu. Nasty. So while I think the contest between Mercury and Jupiter is close, the fact that Mercury has his supporters (Moon, Venus) to help in bad times and to give him his walking stick, whereas Jupiter is deliberately being tripped up even while in a fragile conditions by conspirators (Mars, Saturn, Rahu) with no friends makes me think Jupiter's antardasha running from 5/1974 to 9/1975 may have brought the loss. I'm not completely discounting Mercury, but rather than tossing a coin, I'll go for Jupiter especially based on the Dashamsha Narayana antardasha. While it's been established that Libra is the antardasha that brought the event, what's even weirder is that while this Jupiter antardasha is running, from 11/1974 to 7/1975, Libra's Narayana antardasha is running as well!!! By transit Saturn is transiting the twelfth, activating Jupiter's malefic effects when his dasha's running, and also in the Navamsha, the twelfth Lord of loss is in Gemini. I must say that the transit pattern does not look like I would have expected for the matter, but for now I'll stick with this and once we know the real date, perhaps we can look at transits as a group. So Moon-Jupiter + Libra-Libra = 11/1974 - 7/1975. That's my bet. Would love to hear any comments/constructive criticism, Hare Krishna, Pursottam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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