Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Narasimha, My boss is looking for some huge fund for development of the organisation for the last 3 years. He didn't get any success. But, he keeps trying. For the last 13 months, he has completely detached from the day to day activities of the organisation and he is spending day and night for this project. Because of this the organisation's activities are showing downward trend. He is keep saying that next week the fund will come and the next week never comes. During this process of mobilising the fund, he got some financing project idea, which will promise huge regular inflow of fund, which doesn't make any sense to us. But, he is very confident and he is not the person to give up anything easily. So, he is so determined that he will come to normal business only after the fund. But, in our opinion, 3 years are enough and no way he will get the fund. Now, the orgainsation looks like stagnated and no direction or guidance and I can smell something danger could happen in the near future. If it materialise, everything will touch the sky. If it doesn't the opposite will happen. He is not even sure of his birth year. Organisation also do not have the inauguration time. Now, I am requesting a prasna analysis from you. Will any of the projects, he is talking materialise? If so when? If not what will be the fate of the organisation? Will the boss come back to normal business? Thanks in advance. Your sisya Solai Kannan P.S. As per our Gurudeva's advice on Prasna, I am addressing to one person, Mr.Narasimha. The prasna query was there in the mind for the last 2 months, the final decision to make the prasna was made at 6.28 PM on 22nd January 2001. Longitude is 50 E 35 and Latitude is 26 N 13, Time zone 3 hrs east of GMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2001 Report Share Posted January 27, 2001 Have I missed the reply to this? Sanjay Rath - " Solai Kannan " <solai <varahamihira > Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM [sri Guru] Prasna Request > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Narasimha, > > My boss is looking for some huge fund for development of the organisation > for the last 3 years. He didn't get any success. But, he keeps trying. For > the last 13 months, he has completely detached from the day to day > activities of the organisation and he is spending day and night for this > project. Because of this the organisation's activities are showing downward > trend. He is keep saying that next week the fund will come and the next week > never comes. During this process of mobilising the fund, he got some > financing project idea, which will promise huge regular inflow of fund, > which doesn't make any sense to us. But, he is very confident and he is not > the person to give up anything easily. So, he is so determined that he will > come to normal business only after the fund. But, in our opinion, 3 years > are enough and no way he will get the fund. Now, the orgainsation looks like > stagnated and no direction or guidance and I can smell something danger > could happen in the near future. If it materialise, everything will touch > the sky. If it doesn't the opposite will happen. He is not even sure of his > birth year. Organisation also do not have the inauguration time. > > Now, I am requesting a prasna analysis from you. Will any of the projects, > he is talking materialise? If so when? If not what will be the fate of the > organisation? Will the boss come back to normal business? > > Thanks in advance. > > Your sisya > Solai Kannan > > P.S. As per our Gurudeva's advice on Prasna, I am addressing to one person, > Mr.Narasimha. > The prasna query was there in the mind for the last 2 months, the final > decision to make the prasna was made at 6.28 PM on 22nd January 2001. > Longitude is 50 E 35 and Latitude is 26 N 13, Time zone 3 hrs east of GMT. > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2001 Report Share Posted January 27, 2001 Pranaam Sanjay, > Have I missed the reply to this? > Sanjay Rath You haven't. I was in a big dilemma about whether to answer the prasna in my usual way (the same way followed by many astrologers including my father and Dr. Raman, namely using the time and place of queror) or to answer it in your way (namely using the time and place of answerer). Varahamihira is like a classroom and I feel uncomfortable to teach something totally contrary to your teachings in this classroom. However, I have no conviction in this particular teaching of yours and I feel equally uncomfortable to teach the class using something I have no conviction in. I could not and cannot make up my mind. I am sorry Solai. Your sishya, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2001 Report Share Posted January 27, 2001 Dear Narasimha, Just calmly follow the description of the Prasna method as outlined in the Prasna Marga. Even today, many people are troubled by questions and often seek a meeting with the Jyotish. Before meeting the Jyotish, they ponder over the question, the way to put the question and what not all and finally having made up their mind, they proceed to the place of the Jyotish and make the Prasna. Now, the Jyotish does not ask " What time did this question first occur to you, nor does he bother about since how long. He simply places the planets according to the time when " HE HEARD THE QUESTION " . Then the procedure follows. Now, take the time when Solai or Karu think about their Prasna, and after a lot of thought they pen it down and put it in a mail. It is possible that the Jyotish maybe travelling and may not be feeling up to the mark. Actually, in Prasna, this " FEELING " is very important as it is the intuition that guides. Then when the time is ripe, the mail is opened and read and chart cast... Thus the time of knowing of the query is the Prasna time for the Jyotish. It is possible that the querist may have thought of umpteen questions, but the one asked is the actual Prasna and the time when the Jyotish (One of the three main representatives of Satya Peetha) reads or hears is the time for the Prasna. the other two are the Doctor (like Brahma his worship or good will gives long life) and Lawyer (like Shiva, his protection always saves a person, sometimes for big crimes as well). Like that Jyotisha is like Vishnu who sustains and guides the native into a meaningful life.. Best Wishes sanjay rath - <pvr <varahamihira > Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:48 AM [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > Pranaam Sanjay, > > > Have I missed the reply to this? > > Sanjay Rath > > You haven't. I was in a big dilemma about whether to answer the > prasna in my usual way (the same way followed by many astrologers > including my father and Dr. Raman, namely using the time and place of > queror) or to answer it in your way (namely using the time and place > of answerer). > > Varahamihira is like a classroom and I feel uncomfortable to teach > something totally contrary to your teachings in this classroom. > However, I have no conviction in this particular teaching of yours > and I feel equally uncomfortable to teach the class using something I > have no conviction in. > > I could not and cannot make up my mind. I am sorry Solai. > > Your sishya, > Narasimha > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Vijay, I haven't read any books on Prasna. I read only the archived mails of Varahamihira. Let us examine the applicability of each possible time given by you, logically, w.r.t an email query. 1. Time when Queriest thought of the prasna It is very difficult to find. Say for example in my case, I was thinking about the prasna, for about two months. First, I thought whether to ask or not. Is it wise ask this personal question in the list? Like wise the discussion was going on inside my mind. Then I postponed it for several other reasons. Then, I decided to make the prasna at one evening. But, at that time I was away from the computer. I was able to send the e-mail only next day morning.(Interestingly, I knew at that time that it is Krishna - Chaturtasi and the luminaries are weak. But, then, I told myself that my inner self and my intuition has decided that this is the time to make the prasna.) So, for common man it is difficult to remember, ACCURACY IS DOUBTFUL. 2. Time when Queriest started typing the prasna3. Time when Queriest sent the prasna Exactly, I had this confusion at the time of typing this query. I knew that Narasimah is having different opinion and I wanted to give all the times related to this query. I was confused, whether to choose the time started to type or the time of sending the query. Then, unable to decide, I didn't mention any of these times. Still, it is very difficult to choose this time. I started to type at 8.10 AM and due to some intervention I finished at 8.50AM. Similarly, some people, will send to out box and then later will send them. So, ACCURACY IS DOUBTFUL IN THESE 2 method of times. 4. Time when Astrologer saw the prasna 5. Time when Astrologer attempted the prasna. Let as assume a situation, where somebody called an astrologer over phone to fix an appointment. He says, " I don't have a horoscope, but I want to make a prasna about my job, is it possible for you to do an analysis and if possible can you tell me what time I can come?" The astrologer replies, " OK come at evening" When, he reaches, Astrologer is busy with somebody and the Astrologer came to the person and told, "please wait I will see within half an hour". In this case, the astrologer will cast the chart, only when he sits in front of the person and start the REAL prasna reading. So, although the astrologer know that the prasna is about this person's job in the morning, also he has seen him 30 minutes or 45 minutes ago, the prasna chart will be made only when the astrologer sits SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE. Similarly, I also feel, as far as e-mail is concerned, the time we SIT & START working for this PRASNA READING is the appropriate time. Thanks Solai Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Pranaam Gurudeva, > Just calmly follow the description of the Prasna method as outlined in the > Prasna Marga. The situation dealt with in " Prasna Marga " is: The querist physically meets the astrologer and poses his/her question and the astrologer answers him then. In such a case, chart drawn for the time & place of querist matches the chart with astrologer's co-ordinates. If a prasna is posed on telephone or in emails or not answered immediately, charts based on the querist's co-ordinates and astrologer's co-ordinates are different. Prasna Marga does NOT refer to such cases. So I cannot see how one can claim that " Prasna Marga " supports your view of taking the time & place of astrologer. In fact, Prasna Marga gives a lot of importance, when finding arudha, to the direction the *querist* faces when making the query. Moreover, lagna in the prasna chart represents the querist. All these clearly point to taking the querist's co-ordinates rather than astrologer's. (Otherwise, why would the direction faced by the *querist* matter???) Dr. Raman's daughter (who must've learnt from her father) clearly states her views in her book when dealing with prasnas made on telephone. She suggests taking the co-ordinates of the querist. I have seen many astrologers do the same. THIS, I think, is more consistent with the spirit of Prasna Marga. The bottomline is: (1) Prasna Marga does NOT explicitly resolve the issue arising in telephone/email prasnas across far-away places. (2) But Prasna Marga teaches some concepts that make one think that the querist's co-ordinates are important. Your sishya, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Gurudeva and Vijay, Pranaams. > Gurubhoem namaha > > Pranam Sanjay, > > Your reasoning is good. Your logic is simple: " A queriest need not > exactly know when his question took the final shape " . > And hence, asking him for the time when he/she thought of the question > may not be practically feasible. > > But, then, Prasna Marga and other classics mainly tell us how to do > prasna when queriest approaches us physically. A great deal of > suggestions are given on how to use the direction queriest faces, his > actions etc. > When the question is put on face, astrologer generally answeres there > and then. > > But, when the question is through an email, I have different times now: > 1. Time when Queriest thought of the prasna > 2. Time when Queriest started typing the prasna > 3. Time when Queriest sent the prasna > 4. Time when Astrologer saw the prasna > 5. Time when Astrologer attempted the prasna. > > Out of these, 3 can is preferred by Narasimha. As, it is equivalant to > " Queriest putting the question to the Astrologer " . > There is a small difference in a prasna on face and through an > email/letter. > > When the question is on face, 3 and 4 are one and the same. > > I am uncomfortable with 5. As, this gives some kind of extra control to > the astrologer. Suppose, if few people put some questions to me, if I > want those people, I would try to answere them in a GOOD period only. > > I would like to know what would you suggest among 3,4, and 5. As from my personal experience, I use 3. I have a devotee in Slovenia sending Prashnas to me. He collects them, notes down the time when the question was put to him, and asks them for a number between 1 and 108, to determine the Prashna Arudha in Rasi and Navamsha. Thus we could take it as the devotee represents me, so we take the time when he meets the clients and collects the questions. I take the place of putting the question for the chart. Is this reasonable? So far it looks like it wored out. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Dear Visti, The Prasna is for Narasimha, hence the latter condition is not fulfilled Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen <varahamihira > Monday, January 29, 2001 5:33 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request Om Namo Narayanaya It should be the time when the Astrologer receives the question, through email as the Karma assocaited with the query has now passed to the Astrologer and has to be analyzed then. The time I read your current question was: 12:47:14 PM. The chart is as follows: Date of Birth: January 29, 2001 Time of Birth: 12:47:14 pm Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 12 E 25 Latitude of Birth: 55 N 46 +----------------------+ | Ven | | | HL Asc | | | | Sat | | | Moo | | | Glk | | | | Jup | | | BL | | | Mnd Rah | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | Mer | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Sun | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | Mar | | | GL | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ The Hora is Mercury, and is lagna lord and placed in 9th house, in intellectual Aquarius. Co-Lord Rahu is exalted in Lagna, and Saturn is placed in 12th with Jupiter. This shows that you have posed an intelligent question dealing with the laws of Spiritual matters. Saturn in 12th with Jupiter shows that u've posed the question to a spiritual Organisation, with Jupiterian affiliation(check Sanjays Lagna). Those you work with in this matter are seen from the Darapada. Mars is in Darapada and aspects Mercury, showing that a co-worker/helper, with strong Mars affiliation will react to the question. My lagna is Scorpio. As Mars is also 11th lord you'll gain in learning(4th lord merc), from this question. Moon and exalted Venus in 10th, in very spiritual Pisces is very good for any Brahmin. So very good karma/outcome is assocaited with the query. I always thought this was traditional practice. However now I guess its clear. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Dear Vijay, My comments are given under: - - " Pingali Vijaya Kumara Lakshmi Narayana Rao " <pvklnrao <varahamihira > Monday, January 29, 2001 3:31 PM Re: [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > Gurubhoem namaha > > Pranam Sanjay, > > Your reasoning is good. Your logic is simple: " A queriest need not > exactly know when his question took the final shape " . > And hence, asking him for the time when he/she thought of the question > may not be practically feasible. > > But, then, Prasna Marga and other classics mainly tell us how to do > prasna when queriest approaches us physically. A great deal of > suggestions are given on how to use the direction queriest faces, his > actions etc. > When the question is put on face, astrologer generally answeres there > and then. RATH: IN DEALING WITH PRASNA FROM ROYAL PEOPLE OR BIG PEOPLE WHO OFTEN WROTE THEIR QUERIES ON BHUJA PATRA AND SENT THEM THROUGH A MESSENGER TO THE JYOTISHA RESIDING IN A VILLAGE, THE TIME OF RECEIVING THE PRASNA AND MAKING CHART (IMMEDIATELY NORMALLY) WAS TAKEN AS PRASNA TIME. IF THE JYOTISHA WAS GOING TO A TEMPLE OR TO THE MARKET WHEN HE MET THE MESSENGER, THEN HE WOULD OBSERVE THE LAKSHANA CAREFULLY, RETURN HOME AND DRAW THE CHART FOR THE TIME OF STARTING OF MAKING THE CHART. FROM HERE YOU CAN JUDGE THE ACCEPTABLE PRASNA TIME. FACT REMAINS THAT IF THE JYOTISHA WAS NOT AT HOME, THEN THE TIME WAS NOT THE ORDAINED TIME FOR DOING THE PRASNA AND ON RETURNING HOME, HE WOULD PRAY AND THEN AFTER SEEKING THE BLESSINGS OF THE DEITY, START THE PRASNA. THE TIME WHEN THE KING WROTE OR HOW LONG THE MESSENGER TOOK TO REACH THE VILLAGE WERE COMMUNICATION DELAYS AND DISTURBANCES (PRASNA VIGHNA) THAT ARE NOT CONSIDERED. THERE ARE SO MANY PRASNA THAT WE THINK, BUT THAT NEVER REACH THE JYOTISHA. > > But, when the question is through an email, I have different times now: > 1. Time when Queriest thought of the prasna > 2. Time when Queriest started typing the prasna > 3. Time when Queriest sent the prasna > 4. Time when Astrologer saw the prasna > 5. Time when Astrologer attempted the prasna. > > Out of these, 3 can is preferred by Narasimha. As, it is equivalant to > " Queriest putting the question to the Astrologer " . > There is a small difference in a prasna on face and through an > email/letter. > > When the question is on face, 3 and 4 are one and the same. > > I am uncomfortable with 5. As, this gives some kind of extra control to > the astrologer. Suppose, if few people put some questions to me, if I > want those people, I would try to answere them in a GOOD period only. RATH: WITH MEDITATION, THE ATTACHMENT WILL GO. THEN ONLY CAN YOU MAKE PREDICTIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE. HOW OFTEN DO WE FIND THAT THE PREDICTIONS MADE FOR THE PEOPLE NOT RELATED ARE VERY CORRECT WHEREAS THOSE FOR RELATED PEOPLE GOES WRONG. THAT IS DUE TO ATTACHMENT. ONE HAS TO SHED ATTACHMENT. THUS CHOOSING A TIME TO DO A PRASNA SHOULD BE AS NATURAL AS GOING TO THE TOILET TO RELIEVE ONESELF. THIS PROCESS REQUIRES SOME PRACTISE AND IMMENCE FAITH IN THE ISTA DEVATA. > I would like to know what would you suggest among 3,4, and 5. RATH: CHOOSE METHOD 4 INITIALLY I.E. THE TIME THE PRASNA ARRIVES AT YOUR DOOR/ COMPUTER OR YOU ACTUALLY OPEN IT AND GET TO KNOW THE PRASNA. I FEEL ACTUAL READING AND GETTING TO KNOW THE PRASNA IS THE CORRECT TIME. WHEN YOU ATTEMPT IS ANOTHER THING AND THIS WILL COME NATURALLY WHEN ONE DAY YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OPEN A LETTER AND THEN SUDDENLY AT THE ORDAINED TIME YOU OPEN IT AND REPLY. THAT DAY, KNOW THAT YOUR SURRENDER TO JAGANNATH IS IMPROVING AND YOU HAVE MOVED AHEAD IN THE GOLDEN PATH OF SPIRITUALITY. > your sishya, > Vijay. BLESSINGS SANJAY RATH > Sanjay Rath wrote: > > > Dear Narasimha, > > Just calmly follow the description of the Prasna method as outlined in > > the > > Prasna Marga. Even today, many people are troubled by questions and > > often > > seek a meeting with the Jyotish. Before meeting the Jyotish, they > > ponder > > over the question, the way to put the question and what not all and > > finally > > having made up their mind, they proceed to the place of the Jyotish > > and make > > the Prasna. > > > > Now, the Jyotish does not ask " What time did this question first occur > > to > > you, nor does he bother about since how long. He simply places the > > planets > > according to the time when " HE HEARD THE QUESTION " . Then the procedure > > > > follows. > > > > Now, take the time when Solai or Karu think about their Prasna, and > > after a > > lot of thought they pen it down and put it in a mail. It is possible > > that > > the Jyotish maybe travelling and may not be feeling up to the mark. > > Actually, in Prasna, this " FEELING " is very important as it is the > > intuition > > that guides. Then when the time is ripe, the mail is opened and read > > and > > chart cast... > > > > Thus the time of knowing of the query is the Prasna time for the > > Jyotish. It > > is possible that the querist may have thought of umpteen questions, > > but the > > one asked is the actual Prasna and the time when the Jyotish (One of > > the > > three main representatives of Satya Peetha) reads or hears is the time > > for > > the Prasna. the other two are the Doctor (like Brahma his worship or > > good > > will gives long life) and Lawyer (like Shiva, his protection always > > saves a > > person, sometimes for big crimes as well). Like that Jyotisha is like > > Vishnu > > who sustains and guides the native into a meaningful life.. > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Dear Gauranga, The time etc he gives be used to determine the circumstances of the person while sending the query. I use this chart for a number of things and also try to find links between this and the Prasna chart for my own studies. The number is the arudha no doubt, but the time you get it- is the Prasna Time you should use. With Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - " Gauranga Das " <gauranga <varahamihira > Monday, January 29, 2001 11:49 PM Re: [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Gurudeva and Vijay, > > Pranaams. > > > > Gurubhoem namaha > > > > Pranam Sanjay, > > > > Your reasoning is good. Your logic is simple: " A queriest need not > > exactly know when his question took the final shape " . > > And hence, asking him for the time when he/she thought of the question > > may not be practically feasible. > > > > But, then, Prasna Marga and other classics mainly tell us how to do > > prasna when queriest approaches us physically. A great deal of > > suggestions are given on how to use the direction queriest faces, his > > actions etc. > > When the question is put on face, astrologer generally answeres there > > and then. > > > > But, when the question is through an email, I have different times now: > > 1. Time when Queriest thought of the prasna > > 2. Time when Queriest started typing the prasna > > 3. Time when Queriest sent the prasna > > 4. Time when Astrologer saw the prasna > > 5. Time when Astrologer attempted the prasna. > > > > Out of these, 3 can is preferred by Narasimha. As, it is equivalant to > > " Queriest putting the question to the Astrologer " . > > There is a small difference in a prasna on face and through an > > email/letter. > > > > When the question is on face, 3 and 4 are one and the same. > > > > I am uncomfortable with 5. As, this gives some kind of extra control to > > the astrologer. Suppose, if few people put some questions to me, if I > > want those people, I would try to answere them in a GOOD period only. > > > > I would like to know what would you suggest among 3,4, and 5. > > As from my personal experience, I use 3. I have a devotee in Slovenia sending Prashnas to > me. He collects them, notes down the time when the question was put to him, and asks them > for a number between 1 and 108, to determine the Prashna Arudha in Rasi and Navamsha. Thus > we could take it as the devotee represents me, so we take the time when he meets the > clients and collects the questions. I take the place of putting the question for the > chart. Is this reasonable? So far it looks like it wored out. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > <gauranga > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2001 Report Share Posted January 30, 2001 Pranaam Sanjay, > RATH: IN DEALING WITH PRASNA FROM ROYAL PEOPLE OR BIG PEOPLE WHO OFTEN WROTE > THEIR QUERIES ON BHUJA PATRA AND SENT THEM THROUGH A MESSENGER TO THE > JYOTISHA RESIDING IN A VILLAGE, THE TIME OF RECEIVING THE PRASNA AND MAKING > CHART (IMMEDIATELY NORMALLY) WAS TAKEN AS PRASNA TIME. IF THE JYOTISHA WAS > GOING TO A TEMPLE OR TO THE MARKET WHEN HE MET THE MESSENGER, THEN HE WOULD > OBSERVE THE LAKSHANA CAREFULLY, RETURN HOME AND DRAW THE CHART FOR THE TIME > OF STARTING OF MAKING THE CHART. FROM HERE YOU CAN JUDGE THE ACCEPTABLE > PRASNA TIME. > FACT REMAINS THAT IF THE JYOTISHA WAS NOT AT HOME, THEN THE TIME WAS NOT THE > ORDAINED TIME FOR DOING THE PRASNA AND ON RETURNING HOME, HE WOULD PRAY AND > THEN AFTER SEEKING THE BLESSINGS OF THE DEITY, START THE PRASNA. THE TIME I have 3 sincere questions which I hope you will answer to my satisafaction: (1) Since you referred to " Prasna Marga " , could you kindly give any references in it to the above procedure? (2) Prasna Marga stresses the importance of arudha and arudha is defined based on the direction faced by the querist (and not the astrologer). Why? If the direction faced by querist is important, aren't so the physical location and rising sign at the querist's place? If the physical location and rising sign at the astrologer's place are important, why isn't arudha defined based on the direction faced by the astrologer? (3) Why does lagna in a prasna denote the querist and his intentions (and NOT astrologer and his intentions)? > WHEN THE KING WROTE OR HOW LONG THE MESSENGER TOOK TO REACH THE VILLAGE WERE > COMMUNICATION DELAYS AND DISTURBANCES (PRASNA VIGHNA) THAT ARE NOT > CONSIDERED. > THERE ARE SO MANY PRASNA THAT WE THINK, BUT THAT NEVER REACH THE JYOTISHA. Your sishya, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2001 Report Share Posted February 1, 2001 Dear Gurdeva, Pranaams. And what place should be used? The place where the question was put or where the astrologer is? Your shishya, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: " Sanjay Rath " <srath Címzett: <varahamihira > Elküldve: 2001. január 29. 20:18 Tárgy: Re: [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > Dear Gauranga, > The time etc he gives be used to determine the circumstances of the person > while sending the query. I use this chart for a number of things and also > try to find links between this and the Prasna chart for my own studies. The > number is the arudha no doubt, but the time you get it- is the Prasna Time > you should use. > With Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > - > " Gauranga Das " <gauranga > <varahamihira > > Monday, January 29, 2001 11:49 PM > Re: [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear Gurudeva and Vijay, > > > > Pranaams. > > > > > > > Gurubhoem namaha > > > > > > Pranam Sanjay, > > > > > > Your reasoning is good. Your logic is simple: " A queriest need not > > > exactly know when his question took the final shape " . > > > And hence, asking him for the time when he/she thought of the question > > > may not be practically feasible. > > > > > > But, then, Prasna Marga and other classics mainly tell us how to do > > > prasna when queriest approaches us physically. A great deal of > > > suggestions are given on how to use the direction queriest faces, his > > > actions etc. > > > When the question is put on face, astrologer generally answeres there > > > and then. > > > > > > But, when the question is through an email, I have different times now: > > > 1. Time when Queriest thought of the prasna > > > 2. Time when Queriest started typing the prasna > > > 3. Time when Queriest sent the prasna > > > 4. Time when Astrologer saw the prasna > > > 5. Time when Astrologer attempted the prasna. > > > > > > Out of these, 3 can is preferred by Narasimha. As, it is equivalant to > > > " Queriest putting the question to the Astrologer " . > > > There is a small difference in a prasna on face and through an > > > email/letter. > > > > > > When the question is on face, 3 and 4 are one and the same. > > > > > > I am uncomfortable with 5. As, this gives some kind of extra control to > > > the astrologer. Suppose, if few people put some questions to me, if I > > > want those people, I would try to answere them in a GOOD period only. > > > > > > I would like to know what would you suggest among 3,4, and 5. > > > > As from my personal experience, I use 3. I have a devotee in Slovenia > sending Prashnas to > > me. He collects them, notes down the time when the question was put to > him, and asks them > > for a number between 1 and 108, to determine the Prashna Arudha in Rasi > and Navamsha. Thus > > we could take it as the devotee represents me, so we take the time when he > meets the > > clients and collects the questions. I take the place of putting the > question for the > > chart. Is this reasonable? So far it looks like it wored out. > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > <gauranga > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > _______ > > > > Get your free @ address at > > > > > > > > OM TAT SAT > > Archive: varahamihira > > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > > > > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Dear Narasimha, - <pvr <varahamihira > Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:54 PM [sri Guru] Re: Prasna Request > Pranaam Sanjay, > > > RATH: IN DEALING WITH PRASNA FROM ROYAL PEOPLE OR BIG PEOPLE WHO > OFTEN WROTE > > THEIR QUERIES ON BHUJA PATRA AND SENT THEM THROUGH A MESSENGER TO > THE > > JYOTISHA RESIDING IN A VILLAGE, THE TIME OF RECEIVING THE PRASNA > AND MAKING > > CHART (IMMEDIATELY NORMALLY) WAS TAKEN AS PRASNA TIME. IF THE > JYOTISHA WAS > > GOING TO A TEMPLE OR TO THE MARKET WHEN HE MET THE MESSENGER, THEN > HE WOULD > > OBSERVE THE LAKSHANA CAREFULLY, RETURN HOME AND DRAW THE CHART FOR > THE TIME > > OF STARTING OF MAKING THE CHART. FROM HERE YOU CAN JUDGE THE > ACCEPTABLE > > PRASNA TIME. > > FACT REMAINS THAT IF THE JYOTISHA WAS NOT AT HOME, THEN THE TIME > WAS NOT THE > > ORDAINED TIME FOR DOING THE PRASNA AND ON RETURNING HOME, HE WOULD > PRAY AND > > THEN AFTER SEEKING THE BLESSINGS OF THE DEITY, START THE PRASNA. > THE TIME > > I have 3 sincere questions which I hope you will answer to my > satisafaction: > > (1) Since you referred to " Prasna Marga " , could you kindly give any > references in it to the above procedure? RATH: GOING TO MARKET ETC IS NOT GOING TO BE MENTIONED IN ANY THEORY BOOK. THE ANCIENTS WERE VERY BRIEF AND PRCISE IN WHAT THEY RECORDED. WHAT WILL BE THE PRASNA TIME AS PER YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN THE ABOVE CASE? > (2) Prasna Marga stresses the importance of arudha and arudha is > defined based on the direction faced by the querist (and not the > astrologer). Why? If the direction faced by querist is important, > aren't so the physical location and rising sign at the querist's > place? If the physical location and rising sign at the astrologer's > place are important, why isn't arudha defined based on the direction > faced by the astrologer? RATH: THAT IS ONE METHOD OF FINDING THE ARUDHA SINCE THE ASTROLOGER SITTING UNDER A TREE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE ALL AROUND. WHEN ONE HAS A FIXED DESK AND A FIXED CHAIR FOR THE CLIENT, THIS IS NOT VERY RELEVANT AS THE ARUDHA WOULD BE THE SAME IN ALL THE CASES. KNOWLEDGE GIVEN IN THE TEXTS SHOULD BE USED WITH DISCRETION AS THEY HAVE GIVEN ALL POSSIBLE METHODS. CHOOSE WHAT IS RIGHT.. THIS IS WHERE JUPITERS DISCERNING POWER HELPS. > (3) Why does lagna in a prasna denote the querist and his intentions > (and NOT astrologer and his intentions)? RATH: THE 12TH HOUSE FROM LAGNA REPRESENTS THE ASTROLOGER AND HIS GOOD/EVIL. > > WHEN THE KING WROTE OR HOW LONG THE MESSENGER TOOK TO REACH THE > VILLAGE WERE > > COMMUNICATION DELAYS AND DISTURBANCES (PRASNA VIGHNA) THAT ARE NOT > > CONSIDERED. > > THERE ARE SO MANY PRASNA THAT WE THINK, BUT THAT NEVER REACH THE > JYOTISHA. With Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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