Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

[Guest guest]

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Dear list, Namaste.

 

I've been reading a few articles elequently written by our great Guru, Narasimha, and have a few questions..

 

1. Why is Narayana Dasa compression applicable when its clearly based on the Suns travel throughout the signs.. I'd offcourse acknowledge this if the compression was done in intervals that fit with the exact transit of the Sun, such as annual horoscopes, however the compression to 120 years doesn't make sense to me.

 

2. If Compression is done to 120 years, then how is Antar/PratyAntar/Sookshma Dasa Pravesh Charts applicable as they do not follow the exact motion of the sun?

 

I hope this sparked some thinking..

 

Best wishes, Visti.

[Guest guest]

Narasimha,

Can I see your reply to Visti's question. He has raised nice questions.

With Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

" Visti Larsen " <vlarsen

<varahamihira >

Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:48 PM

[sri Guru] Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Dear list, Namaste.

 

I've been reading a few articles elequently written by our great Guru,

Narasimha, and have a few questions..

 

1. Why is Narayana Dasa compression applicable when its clearly based on the

Suns travel throughout the signs.. I'd offcourse acknowledge this if the

compression was done in intervals that fit with the exact transit of the

Sun, such as annual horoscopes, however the compression to 120 years doesn't

make sense to me.

 

2. If Compression is done to 120 years, then how is

Antar/PratyAntar/Sookshma Dasa Pravesh Charts applicable as they do not

follow the exact motion of the sun?

 

I hope this sparked some thinking..

 

Best wishes, Visti.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

I was going to skip your question, but Sanjay asked me to reply. Here

is my thinking:

 

> Narasimha,

> Can I see your reply to Visti's question. He has raised nice

questions.

> With Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen@h...>

> <varahamihira >

> Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:48 PM

> [sri Guru] Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya

>

> Dear list, Namaste.

>

> I've been reading a few articles elequently written by our great

Guru,

> Narasimha, and have a few questions..

>

> 1. Why is Narayana Dasa compression applicable when its clearly

based on the

> Suns travel throughout the signs.. I'd offcourse acknowledge this

if the

> compression was done in intervals that fit with the exact transit

of the

> Sun, such as annual horoscopes, however the compression to 120

years doesn't

> make sense to me.

 

Whether we are compressing Narayana dasa to a period that " fits with

the exact transit of Sun " or not is irrelevant. Basically Narayana

dasa of a human being shows how lagna progresses during his maximum

life period (paramayush), i.e. 120 years. The first 120 years of

Narayana dasa computed us show how lagna progresses during one's

paramayush.

 

In a non-human chart, paramayush may be less than 120 years. For

example, paramayush of an Indian PM's tenure is 5 years and

paramayush of a lunar new month chart may be 29.25 days. Then we

simply compress Narayana dasa to that period.

 

The issue is not that Narayana dasa is tied to Sun's transit. The

issue is that the *measurement of time* is tied to Sun's transit!! We

measure time in terms of Sun's longitude.

 

This is true irrespective of how much period we are compressing to.

For example, let us say we are finding compressed Narayana dasa for a

lunar new month chart. At the beginning of the lunar month, Sun may

be at 23Sc00. At the end, he may be at 21Sg45. In that case, Sun

moved by 28.75 deg during the month. So the length of the month is

28.75 degrees of Sun (see, we are measuring time in terms of Sun's

longitude). When we compress 120 solar years of human paramayush to

this time, each years corresponds to 28.75 deg/120=14.375 arc-minutes

of motion by Sun! We can do the same thing for antardasas,

pratyantardasas etc.

 

So the issue is that TIME is measures in terms of Sun's motion. The

paramayush need not be in multiples Sun's motion theough one rasi as

you seem to suggest.

 

> 2. If Compression is done to 120 years, then how is

> Antar/PratyAntar/Sookshma Dasa Pravesh Charts applicable as they do

not

> follow the exact motion of the sun?

 

I answered above.

 

> I hope this sparked some thinking..

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

My dear Visti,

I know that you mean well, but your choise of words is not very sweet.

Kindly try to avoid terms like kicking while addressing Jyotish Guru's. i do

not kick anyone, I cannot although I was pretty good at soccer.

Your point was good and Narasimha gave the general answer that should

satisfy all. You must realise that we are not yet discussing life beyond

death and even if compression is there, then the compressed dasa will also

continue beyond death if the normal dasa can. For example, although the

Vajpayee Government was pushed out of power dur to cheap politicking,

Vajpayee continued for another six months as the care taker PM. This is the

life beyond the normal term of parliament...

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

" Visti Larsen " <vlarsen

<varahamihira >

Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:25 PM

Sv: [sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Dear Sanjay, thanx for kicking Narasimha into motion.. =)

 

Dear Narasimha, I had kept the fact about Paramayush in mind before asking

the question, however after meditating on it, i felt obliged to ask.

 

Compression can be done for all dasa's, however progressing Dasa's beyond

the persons birth/death can show events before and after the birth/death,

that yet deal with the natives life. Doing this with Vimshottari Dasa, would

offcourse put me on my toes, pointing with great dismay. However if Dasa

progression beyond the birth is possible, then what is the use of

compression i thought.

 

Any how.. Thanx for your answer.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

pvr

varahamihira

Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:11 AM

[sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

I was going to skip your question, but Sanjay asked me to reply. Here

is my thinking:

 

> Narasimha,

> Can I see your reply to Visti's question. He has raised nice

questions.

> With Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen@h...>

> <varahamihira >

> Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:48 PM

> [sri Guru] Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya

>

> Dear list, Namaste.

>

> I've been reading a few articles elequently written by our great

Guru,

> Narasimha, and have a few questions..

>

> 1. Why is Narayana Dasa compression applicable when its clearly

based on the

> Suns travel throughout the signs.. I'd offcourse acknowledge this

if the

> compression was done in intervals that fit with the exact transit

of the

> Sun, such as annual horoscopes, however the compression to 120

years doesn't

> make sense to me.

 

Whether we are compressing Narayana dasa to a period that " fits with

the exact transit of Sun " or not is irrelevant. Basically Narayana

dasa of a human being shows how lagna progresses during his maximum

life period (paramayush), i.e. 120 years. The first 120 years of

Narayana dasa computed us show how lagna progresses during one's

paramayush.

 

In a non-human chart, paramayush may be less than 120 years. For

example, paramayush of an Indian PM's tenure is 5 years and

paramayush of a lunar new month chart may be 29.25 days. Then we

simply compress Narayana dasa to that period.

 

The issue is not that Narayana dasa is tied to Sun's transit. The

issue is that the *measurement of time* is tied to Sun's transit!! We

measure time in terms of Sun's longitude.

 

This is true irrespective of how much period we are compressing to.

For example, let us say we are finding compressed Narayana dasa for a

lunar new month chart. At the beginning of the lunar month, Sun may

be at 23Sc00. At the end, he may be at 21Sg45. In that case, Sun

moved by 28.75 deg during the month. So the length of the month is

28.75 degrees of Sun (see, we are measuring time in terms of Sun's

longitude). When we compress 120 solar years of human paramayush to

this time, each years corresponds to 28.75 deg/120=14.375 arc-minutes

of motion by Sun! We can do the same thing for antardasas,

pratyantardasas etc.

 

So the issue is that TIME is measures in terms of Sun's motion. The

paramayush need not be in multiples Sun's motion theough one rasi as

you seem to suggest.

 

> 2. If Compression is done to 120 years, then how is

> Antar/PratyAntar/Sookshma Dasa Pravesh Charts applicable as they do

not

> follow the exact motion of the sun?

 

I answered above.

 

> I hope this sparked some thinking..

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

You are correct in using the Narayana Dasa as it is. Do not compress it

unnecessarily. Compression etc should be preferred in Mundane charts.

Someday I shall teach you another secret about this Narayana dasa, but use

it as it is with Dasa Pravesh Charts.

With Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

" Visti Larsen " <vlarsen

<varahamihira >

Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:22 PM

Sv: [sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Dear Sanjay, Namaste.

 

I didn't intend my words to be interpretated in any mean way. It seems there

is a cultural difference in our choice of words, i'll try to be more careful

next time.

 

I was good at soccer too!

 

Yes I now understand why one would use compression, and would fully support

it in judging mundane events.

 

However I'm quite satisfied with the results i'm getting from uncompressed

Narayana Dasa combined with Dasa Pravesh charts. Maybe the Compression

should apply stronger when judging longevity of the native?

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Sanjay Rath

varahamihira

Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:37 PM

Re: [sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

My dear Visti,

I know that you mean well, but your choise of words is not very sweet.

Kindly try to avoid terms like kicking while addressing Jyotish Guru's. i

do

not kick anyone, I cannot although I was pretty good at soccer.

Your point was good and Narasimha gave the general answer that should

satisfy all. You must realise that we are not yet discussing life beyond

death and even if compression is there, then the compressed dasa will also

continue beyond death if the normal dasa can. For example, although the

Vajpayee Government was pushed out of power dur to cheap politicking,

Vajpayee continued for another six months as the care taker PM. This is

the

life beyond the normal term of parliament...

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

" Visti Larsen " <vlarsen

<varahamihira >

Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:25 PM

Sv: [sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Dear Sanjay, thanx for kicking Narasimha into motion.. =)

 

Dear Narasimha, I had kept the fact about Paramayush in mind before asking

the question, however after meditating on it, i felt obliged to ask.

 

Compression can be done for all dasa's, however progressing Dasa's beyond

the persons birth/death can show events before and after the birth/death,

that yet deal with the natives life. Doing this with Vimshottari Dasa,

would

offcourse put me on my toes, pointing with great dismay. However if Dasa

progression beyond the birth is possible, then what is the use of

compression i thought.

 

Any how.. Thanx for your answer.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

pvr

varahamihira

Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:11 AM

[sri Guru] Re: Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

I was going to skip your question, but Sanjay asked me to reply. Here

is my thinking:

 

> Narasimha,

> Can I see your reply to Visti's question. He has raised nice

questions.

> With Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen@h...>

> <varahamihira >

> Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:48 PM

> [sri Guru] Applicability of Narayana Dasa Compression?

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya

>

> Dear list, Namaste.

>

> I've been reading a few articles elequently written by our great

Guru,

> Narasimha, and have a few questions..

>

> 1. Why is Narayana Dasa compression applicable when its clearly

based on the

> Suns travel throughout the signs.. I'd offcourse acknowledge this

if the

> compression was done in intervals that fit with the exact transit

of the

> Sun, such as annual horoscopes, however the compression to 120

years doesn't

> make sense to me.

 

Whether we are compressing Narayana dasa to a period that " fits with

the exact transit of Sun " or not is irrelevant. Basically Narayana

dasa of a human being shows how lagna progresses during his maximum

life period (paramayush), i.e. 120 years. The first 120 years of

Narayana dasa computed us show how lagna progresses during one's

paramayush.

 

In a non-human chart, paramayush may be less than 120 years. For

example, paramayush of an Indian PM's tenure is 5 years and

paramayush of a lunar new month chart may be 29.25 days. Then we

simply compress Narayana dasa to that period.

 

The issue is not that Narayana dasa is tied to Sun's transit. The

issue is that the *measurement of time* is tied to Sun's transit!! We

measure time in terms of Sun's longitude.

 

This is true irrespective of how much period we are compressing to.

For example, let us say we are finding compressed Narayana dasa for a

lunar new month chart. At the beginning of the lunar month, Sun may

be at 23Sc00. At the end, he may be at 21Sg45. In that case, Sun

moved by 28.75 deg during the month. So the length of the month is

28.75 degrees of Sun (see, we are measuring time in terms of Sun's

longitude). When we compress 120 solar years of human paramayush to

this time, each years corresponds to 28.75 deg/120=14.375 arc-minutes

of motion by Sun! We can do the same thing for antardasas,

pratyantardasas etc.

 

So the issue is that TIME is measures in terms of Sun's motion. The

paramayush need not be in multiples Sun's motion theough one rasi as

you seem to suggest.

 

> 2. If Compression is done to 120 years, then how is

> Antar/PratyAntar/Sookshma Dasa Pravesh Charts applicable as they do

not

> follow the exact motion of the sun?

 

I answered above.

 

> I hope this sparked some thinking..

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha