Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. The second mantra is a powerful and well known Ganapati mantra for removing all oppositions and enmity. The addition of bijas (Juli, these are seed syllables, power packed and pregnant with meaning; it can represent the divine itself) to mantras is a complex procedure and has a whole science behind it. Simply put, 'shrim' is the Ramaa bija or Lakshmivanita. Shrim is a mantra by itself for Lakshmi. And much more. Shrim is a complete universe. This Ganapati mantra appears with different combinations of bijas. One form commonly used, (I have heard both South Indian and Oriya priests use it, as well as it is there in several books) is this: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Gam and glaum are both bijas while hum and phat are astras or weapons indicating the power of this mantra. Svaha is your offering. Svaha is the wife of Agni, and is known as Vahnijaya. (Vahni is fire, jaya is wife). Best regards, Sarbani Om sante sante sarvarista nasini svaha Om (shanti) peace, peace, peace, the destroyer of all foes, (not an any particular form; all forms/formless), svaha - the deva that accepts this fire offering from you, who are offering this with your complete humility. Om srim gam saumya ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vasamanaya svaha om shrim ( the consort of Shambhu etc adorned with ) hrim saumya (Moon in the crest; suamya, the amrita) ganapataye (ganesha in the dative) vara varada (the daily granter of boons) sarvajanam (all forms in his name) me vasamanaya (bring them all under my control) svaha (is the vahnipriya) The Ganeshna mantra from Narada Purana III.67 is slightly different: Om shrim hrim klim (remover of curses) glaum Ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vashamanaya svaha The sage is Ganaka (place this on the head) The metre is Gayatri (on the face) The presiding deity is Ganesha (on the heart) The bija are the Six shaktis beginning with a and the application of the mantra is for the propitiation of Mahaganapati (bijas in the private parts and the feet) When offering the prayer, it should really end with " namah " and when you offer the agni hotra (after 1/10 of the amount to be offered), after each mantra, close with svaha and make the offerings into the fire. The mudra is that of Shiva to be placed in six of the limbs etc. Let you Guru help you with the rest. Hope this helps Love, Swee Blessings, Julli , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Juli, > > Replies below: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > I would like to understand various words in the mantras that I come across, > like Vara, > (The day of the week. Somavar is Monday, Mangalvar- Tuesday etc. > > > Varada, > Mahavishnu- the granter of boons > > >Janam, > (Sanskrit - Janma) Birth - your birth sign where your Moon is placed > > >Me, > (say " may " - unto me) > Vasham, > You mean vacham - the part of speech. In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 12.28 > Vak was born from Brahma's body who attracted his mind to be sexually > inclined, even though she was not attracted to him. But I am inclined to say > that vacham is connected to another word which you have disconnected here. > > Aanaya, > Don't know > > Jatavesase, > Jatu - vesa - se - In his black form (Krishna) > > Sarvarishta, > Sarve- arishta - a destroyer of all foes (enemies) > > > Nashini, etc. > Without form. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Mesdemoiselles, Ever since I heard it at childhood being used on me by family and friends, I'd known arishta to mean ill-luck, primarily. And since your meanings seemed to exclude the element of ill-luck, thought I'd search up my dictionary (relevant excerpt attached). Ill-luck too figures, curiously... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 6/3/05, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbanisarkar wrote: Om namastrivikramayaDear Julli and Swee,Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva isall; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the femininegender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Namaste More q’s: For Nashini, is she one of the Yoginis? Please detail her role. Aristha – is argumentative for me. Foes or enemies or evils are all the same word (perhaps lost in the translation), after all, it is Shiva (who is tamasic in the mantra approach). For the removals of enemies or people in opposition, hum (kavacha) phaT is the addition. What do you mean by astra? Also, which war did Ganapati fight and which weapon? Which word is vahni in this case? For Rama, it is Ra Shrim – the Lotus Kamalaa of Lakshmi. Which colour flower would you recommend? Can you detail this including the meditation: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Thanks so much, Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Friday, June 03, 2005 6:26 PM ; RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. The second mantra is a powerful and well known Ganapati mantra for removing all oppositions and enmity. The addition of bijas (Juli, these are seed syllables, power packed and pregnant with meaning; it can represent the divine itself) to mantras is a complex procedure and has a whole science behind it. Simply put, 'shrim' is the Ramaa bija or Lakshmivanita. Shrim is a mantra by itself for Lakshmi. And much more. Shrim is a complete universe. This Ganapati mantra appears with different combinations of bijas. One form commonly used, (I have heard both South Indian and Oriya priests use it, as well as it is there in several books) is this: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Gam and glaum are both bijas while hum and phat are astras or weapons indicating the power of this mantra. Svaha is your offering. Svaha is the wife of Agni, and is known as Vahnijaya. (Vahni is fire, jaya is wife). Best regards, Sarbani Om sante sante sarvarista nasini svaha Om (shanti) peace, peace, peace, the destroyer of all foes, (not an any particular form; all forms/formless), svaha - the deva that accepts this fire offering from you, who are offering this with your complete humility. Om srim gam saumya ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vasamanaya svaha om shrim ( the consort of Shambhu etc adorned with ) hrim saumya (Moon in the crest; suamya, the amrita) ganapataye (ganesha in the dative) vara varada (the daily granter of boons) sarvajanam (all forms in his name) me vasamanaya (bring them all under my control) svaha (is the vahnipriya) The Ganeshna mantra from Narada Purana III.67 is slightly different: Om shrim hrim klim (remover of curses) glaum Ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vashamanaya svaha The sage is Ganaka (place this on the head) The metre is Gayatri (on the face) The presiding deity is Ganesha (on the heart) The bija are the Six shaktis beginning with a and the application of the mantra is for the propitiation of Mahaganapati (bijas in the private parts and the feet) When offering the prayer, it should really end with " namah " and when you offer the agni hotra (after 1/10 of the amount to be offered), after each mantra, close with svaha and make the offerings into the fire. The mudra is that of Shiva to be placed in six of the limbs etc. Let you Guru help you with the rest. Hope this helps Love, Swee Blessings, Julli , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Juli, > > Replies below: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > I would like to understand various words in the mantras that I come across, > like Vara, > (The day of the week. Somavar is Monday, Mangalvar- Tuesday etc. > > > Varada, > Mahavishnu- the granter of boons > > >Janam, > (Sanskrit - Janma) Birth - your birth sign where your Moon is placed > > >Me, > (say " may " - unto me) > Vasham, > You mean vacham - the part of speech. In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 12.28 > Vak was born from Brahma's body who attracted his mind to be sexually > inclined, even though she was not attracted to him. But I am inclined to say > that vacham is connected to another word which you have disconnected here. > > Aanaya, > Don't know > > Jatavesase, > Jatu - vesa - se - In his black form (Krishna) > > Sarvarishta, > Sarve- arishta - a destroyer of all foes (enemies) > > > Nashini, etc. > Without form. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Still argumentative for me. In jyotish terms, that is. Mars and Saturn are 2 great malefics and they hardly bring luck and not give dosha and that’s one thing a dictionary can never do is to replace such arguments……….perhaps they’ll bring out a thesauraus one day On Behalf Of Ramapriya D Friday, June 03, 2005 7:02 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Mesdemoiselles, Ever since I heard it at childhood being used on me by family and friends, I'd known arishta to mean ill-luck, primarily. And since your meanings seemed to exclude the element of ill-luck, thought I'd search up my dictionary (relevant excerpt attached). Ill-luck too figures, curiously... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 6/3/05, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbanisarkar wrote: Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Om Namastrivikramaya Dear Rama and Swee, Swee, Rama is closer to the meaning. Rishta, from Rish dhatu, means, harm, troubles, evil, including physical troubles, hence Monier Williams refers to it as injuries and wounds as well. Arishta is that which indicates or signifies or heralds rishtas, or troubles and harm. It does not refer to the people who are doing this as such but more to the fact, that there are these problems. But I agree with you in that, wholistically, arishta signifies the doer and the deeds. Hope this helps. Regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Ramapriya DFriday, June 03, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Mesdemoiselles, Ever since I heard it at childhood being used on me by family and friends, I'd known arishta to mean ill-luck, primarily. And since your meanings seemed to exclude the element of ill-luck, thought I'd search up my dictionary (relevant excerpt attached). Ill-luck too figures, curiously... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 6/3/05, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbanisarkar wrote: Om namastrivikramayaDear Julli and Swee,Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva isall; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the femininegender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Thank you for the clarifications. On the Yoginis, this is what I’ve found (from a website) Tantric texts identify Puri as a pitha of Jagannath Bhairava and Vimala-Bhairavi. She is also called Kshetrasakti. Subhadra of the Jagannath triad is identified as Ekanamsa or Katyayan a form of Durga. By about 12th Balarama Dasa in his Bata Avakasa (16th century A.D.) has described that Jagannath was attended by the sixty-four Yoginis Katyayinis, Sapta Matrikas, Vimala and Viraja. The same work also says that seventy six mother goddess like Sakambari,-Durgeswari, Kali, Ramachandi, Kothesvari, Bhayavati, Vaseli, Hadimai, Kotambachandi, Brahmani, Savitri, Sarla Chandi, Aparajita Pingala, Sasakama, Marakarama, Heryula, Kalapati, Kalijai, Kalaratri, Kalika, Pateli, Kalasuni, Charchika, Chhayamaya, Vijaya, Chandraghanta, Kalashanta, Kalamukhi, Trutikhai, Hemasanti, Sarpamukhi, Jagulai, Hadabai, Samalai, Mangala, Karunai, Barunai, Terasuni, Tareni, Jareni, Mareni, Sapanacheti and Kanakesvari etc. The Prachi Mahatmya also mentions deities like Chandaghanta, Ramachandi and Bhagavati. Sarala Das describes Ugratara, Chachesvari, Baseli, Mahesvari, Kalika, Konkali, Abhimukhi, Janguli and Sarla in his work Arka Kshetra to have been incorporated into the fold of Jagannath Triad Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:43 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om Namastrivikramaya Dear Rama and Swee, Swee, Rama is closer to the meaning. Rishta, from Rish dhatu, means, harm, troubles, evil, including physical troubles, hence Monier Williams refers to it as injuries and wounds as well. Arishta is that which indicates or signifies or heralds rishtas, or troubles and harm. It does not refer to the people who are doing this as such but more to the fact, that there are these problems. But I agree with you in that, wholistically, arishta signifies the doer and the deeds. Hope this helps. Regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Ramapriya D Friday, June 03, 2005 10:32 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Mesdemoiselles, Ever since I heard it at childhood being used on me by family and friends, I'd known arishta to mean ill-luck, primarily. And since your meanings seemed to exclude the element of ill-luck, thought I'd search up my dictionary (relevant excerpt attached). Ill-luck too figures, curiously... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 6/3/05, Sarbani Sarkar <sarbanisarkar wrote: Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Trying to answer your queries . 1. Nashini is from 'nasha' meaning to destroy. Nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender. By itself it is not so commonly used; but it is used more as a suffix. For example, Durgatinashini (Dur (bad, evil) + Gati (direction, movement) + Nashini (destroyer in feminine gender) is one who destroys our bad/wrong gatis or directions in life. It is an adjective as well as a name of the Divine Mother. Compositely, it also means one who destroys all troubles. Similarly, you can have Kulanashini, or one who destroys the kula. Or Sarvarishtanashini, that is one who destroys all the arishtas. Hence the mantra devata of this mantra is a female deity. 2. Hum is not kavacha here (I think you are thinking of the nyasas ). It is the kurcha bija and is used for damana or suppression. Phat is an astra or weapon. Together, 'hum phat' is used to empower the mantra further. As it is, the mantra is for the control of all evils and obstacles that is directed at oneself. With hum you are able to suppress the evils/obstacles and with phat, fight them. It makes the mantra more potent. In mantra shastra terminology they make a mantra more fiery (aagneya or raudra mantras). 3. Each bija has multiple names. So Svaha, the wife of Agni is called vahnijaya. Vahni is another name for Agni. 4. Similarly, Shrim bija has multiple names including Ramaa (wife of Vishnu) bija, Lakshmi bija etc. Shri is Lakshmi herself, and dwells in the heart of Vishnu. The colour of lotus for Lakshmi? I suppose that depends on the form. Pink for Lakshmi, White/Blue for Kamalatmika and so on. In season, Jagannath is adorned with lotus garlands and flowers. Lotus is the symbol of the heart-lotus. Who, but Narayan sits there! 5. The dhyana mantra for this ganapati mantra is common irrespective of the bijas. You can use the same dhyana as the one for the mantra you mentioned. Best Regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Swee ChanFriday, June 03, 2005 10:38 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Namaste More q’s: For Nashini, is she one of the Yoginis? Please detail her role. Aristha – is argumentative for me. Foes or enemies or evils are all the same word (perhaps lost in the translation), after all, it is Shiva (who is tamasic in the mantra approach). For the removals of enemies or people in opposition, hum (kavacha) phaT is the addition. What do you mean by astra? Also, which war did Ganapati fight and which weapon? Which word is vahni in this case? For Rama, it is Ra Shrim – the Lotus Kamalaa of Lakshmi. Which colour flower would you recommend? Can you detail this including the meditation: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Thanks so much, Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarFriday, June 03, 2005 6:26 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. The second mantra is a powerful and well known Ganapati mantra for removing all oppositions and enmity. The addition of bijas (Juli, these are seed syllables, power packed and pregnant with meaning; it can represent the divine itself) to mantras is a complex procedure and has a whole science behind it. Simply put, 'shrim' is the Ramaa bija or Lakshmivanita. Shrim is a mantra by itself for Lakshmi. And much more. Shrim is a complete universe. This Ganapati mantra appears with different combinations of bijas. One form commonly used, (I have heard both South Indian and Oriya priests use it, as well as it is there in several books) is this: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Gam and glaum are both bijas while hum and phat are astras or weapons indicating the power of this mantra. Svaha is your offering. Svaha is the wife of Agni, and is known as Vahnijaya. (Vahni is fire, jaya is wife). Best regards, Sarbani Om sante sante sarvarista nasini svaha Om (shanti) peace, peace, peace, the destroyer of all foes, (not an any particular form; all forms/formless), svaha - the deva that accepts this fire offering from you, who are offering this with your complete humility. Om srim gam saumya ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vasamanaya svaha om shrim ( the consort of Shambhu etc adorned with ) hrim saumya (Moon in the crest; suamya, the amrita) ganapataye (ganesha in the dative) vara varada (the daily granter of boons) sarvajanam (all forms in his name) me vasamanaya (bring them all under my control) svaha (is the vahnipriya) The Ganeshna mantra from Narada Purana III.67 is slightly different: Om shrim hrim klim (remover of curses) glaum Ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vashamanaya svaha The sage is Ganaka (place this on the head) The metre is Gayatri (on the face) The presiding deity is Ganesha (on the heart) The bija are the Six shaktis beginning with a and the application of the mantra is for the propitiation of Mahaganapati (bijas in the private parts and the feet) When offering the prayer, it should really end with "namah" and when you offer the agni hotra (after 1/10 of the amount to be offered), after each mantra, close with svaha and make the offerings into the fire. The mudra is that of Shiva to be placed in six of the limbs etc. Let you Guru help you with the rest. Hope this helps Love, Swee Blessings, Julli , "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Juli, > > Replies below: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > I would like to understand various words in the mantras that I come across, > like Vara, > (The day of the week. Somavar is Monday, Mangalvar- Tuesday etc. > > > Varada, > Mahavishnu- the granter of boons > > >Janam, > (Sanskrit - Janma) Birth - your birth sign where your Moon is placed > > >Me, > (say "may"- unto me) > Vasham, > You mean vacham - the part of speech. In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 12.28 > Vak was born from Brahma's body who attracted his mind to be sexually > inclined, even though she was not attracted to him. But I am inclined to say > that vacham is connected to another word which you have disconnected here. > > Aanaya, > Don't know > > Jatavesase, > Jatu - vesa - se - In his black form (Krishna) > > Sarvarishta, > Sarve- arishta - a destroyer of all foes (enemies) > > > Nashini, etc. > Without form. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Thank you for the extensive explanation. However, I have one more q: When do you decide if the feminine form works better for you? Sanjay ji had a quick lesson on that one in the West Coast Conference; as I have too many to sift through, can you please give us a recap? Thanks so much. Love, Swee p/s I love the green colour, it’s so peaceful. On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:45 PM ; RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Trying to answer your queries . 1. Nashini is from 'nasha' meaning to destroy. Nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender. By itself it is not so commonly used; but it is used more as a suffix. For example, Durgatinashini (Dur (bad, evil) + Gati (direction, movement) + Nashini (destroyer in feminine gender) is one who destroys our bad/wrong gatis or directions in life. It is an adjective as well as a name of the Divine Mother. Compositely, it also means one who destroys all troubles. Similarly, you can have Kulanashini, or one who destroys the kula. Or Sarvarishtanashini, that is one who destroys all the arishtas. Hence the mantra devata of this mantra is a female deity. 2. Hum is not kavacha here (I think you are thinking of the nyasas ). It is the kurcha bija and is used for damana or suppression. Phat is an astra or weapon. Together, 'hum phat' is used to empower the mantra further. As it is, the mantra is for the control of all evils and obstacles that is directed at oneself. With hum you are able to suppress the evils/obstacles and with phat, fight them. It makes the mantra more potent. In mantra shastra terminology they make a mantra more fiery (aagneya or raudra mantras). 3. Each bija has multiple names. So Svaha, the wife of Agni is called vahnijaya. Vahni is another name for Agni. 4. Similarly, Shrim bija has multiple names including Ramaa (wife of Vishnu) bija, Lakshmi bija etc. Shri is Lakshmi herself, and dwells in the heart of Vishnu. The colour of lotus for Lakshmi? I suppose that depends on the form. Pink for Lakshmi, White/Blue for Kamalatmika and so on. In season, Jagannath is adorned with lotus garlands and flowers. Lotus is the symbol of the heart-lotus. Who, but Narayan sits there! 5. The dhyana mantra for this ganapati mantra is common irrespective of the bijas. You can use the same dhyana as the one for the mantra you mentioned. Best Regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, June 03, 2005 10:38 PM ; RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Namaste More q’s: For Nashini, is she one of the Yoginis? Please detail her role. Aristha – is argumentative for me. Foes or enemies or evils are all the same word (perhaps lost in the translation), after all, it is Shiva (who is tamasic in the mantra approach). For the removals of enemies or people in opposition, hum (kavacha) phaT is the addition. What do you mean by astra? Also, which war did Ganapati fight and which weapon? Which word is vahni in this case? For Rama, it is Ra Shrim – the Lotus Kamalaa of Lakshmi. Which colour flower would you recommend? Can you detail this including the meditation: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Thanks so much, Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Friday, June 03, 2005 6:26 PM ; RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. The second mantra is a powerful and well known Ganapati mantra for removing all oppositions and enmity. The addition of bijas (Juli, these are seed syllables, power packed and pregnant with meaning; it can represent the divine itself) to mantras is a complex procedure and has a whole science behind it. Simply put, 'shrim' is the Ramaa bija or Lakshmivanita. Shrim is a mantra by itself for Lakshmi. And much more. Shrim is a complete universe. This Ganapati mantra appears with different combinations of bijas. One form commonly used, (I have heard both South Indian and Oriya priests use it, as well as it is there in several books) is this: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Gam and glaum are both bijas while hum and phat are astras or weapons indicating the power of this mantra. Svaha is your offering. Svaha is the wife of Agni, and is known as Vahnijaya. (Vahni is fire, jaya is wife). Best regards, Sarbani Om sante sante sarvarista nasini svaha Om (shanti) peace, peace, peace, the destroyer of all foes, (not an any particular form; all forms/formless), svaha - the deva that accepts this fire offering from you, who are offering this with your complete humility. Om srim gam saumya ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vasamanaya svaha om shrim ( the consort of Shambhu etc adorned with ) hrim saumya (Moon in the crest; suamya, the amrita) ganapataye (ganesha in the dative) vara varada (the daily granter of boons) sarvajanam (all forms in his name) me vasamanaya (bring them all under my control) svaha (is the vahnipriya) The Ganeshna mantra from Narada Purana III.67 is slightly different: Om shrim hrim klim (remover of curses) glaum Ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vashamanaya svaha The sage is Ganaka (place this on the head) The metre is Gayatri (on the face) The presiding deity is Ganesha (on the heart) The bija are the Six shaktis beginning with a and the application of the mantra is for the propitiation of Mahaganapati (bijas in the private parts and the feet) When offering the prayer, it should really end with " namah " and when you offer the agni hotra (after 1/10 of the amount to be offered), after each mantra, close with svaha and make the offerings into the fire. The mudra is that of Shiva to be placed in six of the limbs etc. Let you Guru help you with the rest. Hope this helps Love, Swee Blessings, Julli , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Juli, > > Replies below: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > I would like to understand various words in the mantras that I come across, > like Vara, > (The day of the week. Somavar is Monday, Mangalvar- Tuesday etc. > > > Varada, > Mahavishnu- the granter of boons > > >Janam, > (Sanskrit - Janma) Birth - your birth sign where your Moon is placed > > >Me, > (say " may " - unto me) > Vasham, > You mean vacham - the part of speech. In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 12.28 > Vak was born from Brahma's body who attracted his mind to be sexually > inclined, even though she was not attracted to him. But I am inclined to say > that vacham is connected to another word which you have disconnected here. > > Aanaya, > Don't know > > Jatavesase, > Jatu - vesa - se - In his black form (Krishna) > > Sarvarishta, > Sarve- arishta - a destroyer of all foes (enemies) > > > Nashini, etc. > Without form. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Om Namastrivikramaya Dear Swee, Which lesson of Sanjayji's are you referring to here? I don't remember any in the west coast! Nevertheless, let me try to answer your question. I think there are multiple ways to determine when to choose a female form. I will mention a few brief points quickly. 1. One simple basic method is to look at the 5th house in the rashi chart. If the planet placed there or its lord are feminine, or if the sign of the house is a feminine or an even sign, then it will indicate that you will be attracted to female deities and the worship of such deities will be beneficial for you. You will have to take into your assessment the aspects as well. We have some indications by which we determine the form. You can take Harihara's classification as a guideline here. Like, Martian influences on female deities indicate Chamunda and her forms. Saturn indicates Kali. Rahu indicates Durga. A Martian form of Venus may indicate the particular form of Lakshmi, like Kanakdhara etc. 2. The Moon per se, associated with your house of worship, your AK, Karakamsha etc. indicates the devi. If exalted, and well placed and aspected, more so. The phase of the Moon and the tithi can indicate the precise form of the deity. The dark half is usually reserved for more ugra rupas while the bright half indicates more saumya rupas. It is said the full Moon is like Tripura while Amavasya is like Kali. Saguna and Nirguna. And so on. 3. The deity for Palana Devata that is the 6th from the Amatyakaraka in the navamsha, is always a female deity, for who else but the mother does palana, or nurtures us? 4. When seeking for a direction in life, while groping for the right gati, who else but the mother to show you the right gati? 5. For those with troubled minds, afflicted Moon...see in the chart if devi worship is suitable, the prescribe such mantras. 6. For those in whose charts, the Moon indicates a blessing, enhance that blessing with worship of the Divine Mother. 7. For siddhis, nothing like the mahavidyas, but only if you know how. Also, when there is some great affliction/problem in the chart, only an ugra rupa of the devi can remove such problems. No one burns our sins better than Kali. But so does Krishna. So many say Kali and Krishna are supposed to be the one and the same. The Krim and Klim bijas. No one controls Rahu better than Durga. Remember Rama worshipped Chamunda before going to war. 8. The Moon is the Mother. If she reveals herself in the chart, then I suppose we should jolly well worship her, in the form she appears. The Moon shows the direction of the mind. If wrong, the Mother can put it on the right track. On the track of moksha marga. Best regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Swee ChanSaturday, June 04, 2005 7:25 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Thank you for the extensive explanation. However, I have one more q: When do you decide if the feminine form works better for you? Sanjay ji had a quick lesson on that one in the West Coast Conference; as I have too many to sift through, can you please give us a recap? Thanks so much. Love, Sweep/s I love the green colour, it’s so peaceful. On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarSaturday, June 04, 2005 2:45 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Trying to answer your queries . 1. Nashini is from 'nasha' meaning to destroy. Nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender. By itself it is not so commonly used; but it is used more as a suffix. For example, Durgatinashini (Dur (bad, evil) + Gati (direction, movement) + Nashini (destroyer in feminine gender) is one who destroys our bad/wrong gatis or directions in life. It is an adjective as well as a name of the Divine Mother. Compositely, it also means one who destroys all troubles. Similarly, you can have Kulanashini, or one who destroys the kula. Or Sarvarishtanashini, that is one who destroys all the arishtas. Hence the mantra devata of this mantra is a female deity. 2. Hum is not kavacha here (I think you are thinking of the nyasas ). It is the kurcha bija and is used for damana or suppression. Phat is an astra or weapon. Together, 'hum phat' is used to empower the mantra further. As it is, the mantra is for the control of all evils and obstacles that is directed at oneself. With hum you are able to suppress the evils/obstacles and with phat, fight them. It makes the mantra more potent. In mantra shastra terminology they make a mantra more fiery (aagneya or raudra mantras). 3. Each bija has multiple names. So Svaha, the wife of Agni is called vahnijaya. Vahni is another name for Agni. 4. Similarly, Shrim bija has multiple names including Ramaa (wife of Vishnu) bija, Lakshmi bija etc. Shri is Lakshmi herself, and dwells in the heart of Vishnu. The colour of lotus for Lakshmi? I suppose that depends on the form. Pink for Lakshmi, White/Blue for Kamalatmika and so on. In season, Jagannath is adorned with lotus garlands and flowers. Lotus is the symbol of the heart-lotus. Who, but Narayan sits there! 5. The dhyana mantra for this ganapati mantra is common irrespective of the bijas. You can use the same dhyana as the one for the mantra you mentioned. Best Regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of Swee ChanFriday, June 03, 2005 10:38 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, Namaste More q’s: For Nashini, is she one of the Yoginis? Please detail her role. Aristha – is argumentative for me. Foes or enemies or evils are all the same word (perhaps lost in the translation), after all, it is Shiva (who is tamasic in the mantra approach). For the removals of enemies or people in opposition, hum (kavacha) phaT is the addition. What do you mean by astra? Also, which war did Ganapati fight and which weapon? Which word is vahni in this case? For Rama, it is Ra Shrim – the Lotus Kamalaa of Lakshmi. Which colour flower would you recommend? Can you detail this including the meditation: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Thanks so much, Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarFriday, June 03, 2005 6:26 PM ; Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Mantra Glossary Om namastrivikramaya Dear Julli and Swee, Just adding one or two fine tuning points to these discussions. In the first mantra, 'sarvarishtanashini', that is sarva + arishta+ nashini. Sarva is all; arishta is troubles, evils, nashini is one who destroys in the feminine gender, implying the invocations is to a female deity. The second mantra is a powerful and well known Ganapati mantra for removing all oppositions and enmity. The addition of bijas (Juli, these are seed syllables, power packed and pregnant with meaning; it can represent the divine itself) to mantras is a complex procedure and has a whole science behind it. Simply put, 'shrim' is the Ramaa bija or Lakshmivanita. Shrim is a mantra by itself for Lakshmi. And much more. Shrim is a complete universe. This Ganapati mantra appears with different combinations of bijas. One form commonly used, (I have heard both South Indian and Oriya priests use it, as well as it is there in several books) is this: Om gam glaum ganapataye vara varade sarva janamme vashamanaya hum phat svaha Gam and glaum are both bijas while hum and phat are astras or weapons indicating the power of this mantra. Svaha is your offering. Svaha is the wife of Agni, and is known as Vahnijaya. (Vahni is fire, jaya is wife). Best regards, Sarbani Om sante sante sarvarista nasini svaha Om (shanti) peace, peace, peace, the destroyer of all foes, (not an any particular form; all forms/formless), svaha - the deva that accepts this fire offering from you, who are offering this with your complete humility. Om srim gam saumya ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vasamanaya svaha om shrim ( the consort of Shambhu etc adorned with ) hrim saumya (Moon in the crest; suamya, the amrita) ganapataye (ganesha in the dative) vara varada (the daily granter of boons) sarvajanam (all forms in his name) me vasamanaya (bring them all under my control) svaha (is the vahnipriya) The Ganeshna mantra from Narada Purana III.67 is slightly different: Om shrim hrim klim (remover of curses) glaum Ganapataye vara varada sarvajanam me vashamanaya svaha The sage is Ganaka (place this on the head) The metre is Gayatri (on the face) The presiding deity is Ganesha (on the heart) The bija are the Six shaktis beginning with a and the application of the mantra is for the propitiation of Mahaganapati (bijas in the private parts and the feet) When offering the prayer, it should really end with "namah" and when you offer the agni hotra (after 1/10 of the amount to be offered), after each mantra, close with svaha and make the offerings into the fire. The mudra is that of Shiva to be placed in six of the limbs etc. Let you Guru help you with the rest. Hope this helps Love, Swee Blessings, Julli , "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Juli, > > Replies below: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > I would like to understand various words in the mantras that I come across, > like Vara, > (The day of the week. Somavar is Monday, Mangalvar- Tuesday etc. > > > Varada, > Mahavishnu- the granter of boons > > >Janam, > (Sanskrit - Janma) Birth - your birth sign where your Moon is placed > > >Me, > (say "may"- unto me) > Vasham, > You mean vacham - the part of speech. In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3, Ch 12.28 > Vak was born from Brahma's body who attracted his mind to be sexually > inclined, even though she was not attracted to him. But I am inclined to say > that vacham is connected to another word which you have disconnected here. > > Aanaya, > Don't know > > Jatavesase, > Jatu - vesa - se - In his black form (Krishna) > > Sarvarishta, > Sarve- arishta - a destroyer of all foes (enemies) > > > Nashini, etc. > Without form. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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