Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Om Namah ShivayaDear Guruvi/Gurujanas,What does the LMT in the Data window [underneath the Time Zone] in JHora refer to - Local Mean Time? As opposed to the GMT? Right? The two obviously give very different results, especially in the D-Charts. JHora says, it's "useful for old dates" and I was wondering why the variation in the use value? But firstly, which one should one prefer? LMT or GMT? Thanks for enlightening. Best regards,Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 hello Patheya GMT is always better then LMT..when birth placed data is available..regard2008/8/29 Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal Om Namah ShivayaDear Guruvi/Gurujanas,What does the LMT in the Data window [underneath the Time Zone] in JHora refer to - Local Mean Time? As opposed to the GMT? Right? The two obviously give very different results, especially in the D-Charts. JHora says, it's " useful for old dates " and I was wondering why the variation in the use value? But firstly, which one should one prefer? LMT or GMT? Thanks for enlightening. Best regards, Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Om Namah ShivayaNamaskar Amit,Thank you for your mail. I somehow have a great inclination to use the precision data especially about the geographical coordinates, thankfully made available by, e.g. microsoft and google. And I find the results startlingly more illuminating. But this is only if I, or the natives, know the exact location of the event, including birth. Similarly, I was wondering if the local time might not be a better option, for GMT afterall is a very broad receptacle for mapping time onto huage geographical areas. I look forward to hearing more on this. Best regards,Patheya--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote:Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: J Hora querysohamsa Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 3:20 AM hello Patheya GMT is always better then LMT..when birth placed data is available..regard2008/8/29 Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal Om Namah ShivayaDear Guruvi/Gurujanas,What does the LMT in the Data window [underneath the Time Zone] in JHora refer to - Local Mean Time? As opposed to the GMT? Right? The two obviously give very different results, especially in the D-Charts. JHora says, it's "useful for old dates" and I was wondering why the variation in the use value? But firstly, which one should one prefer? LMT or GMT? Thanks for enlightening. Best regards, Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Namaste, This is not an issue of " precision " . It is merely an issue of how the clock used for measuring the time was set. Everybody in India sets their clocks to one time now (IST - 5:30 east of GMT). If you ask ten people in ten Indian cities " what is the time right now " , they should all say the same thing (unless their clocks were wrong). A person in Calcutta does not set a time that is a few minutes ahead of a person in Bombay. In other words, all their clocks are set to the LST - local standard time. In case of India, LST used is IST. In case of USA east coast, the LST used is EST. If you don't check LMT checkbox, JHora will NOT use GMT as you were saying BTW - it uses the LST of the place. For one city, this LST may be 4 hours west of GMT and for another city it may be 5:30 hours east of GMT. In all likelihood, the clock used would've been set for the local standard time anyway. If someone was born in *old* days when there was no standard time and every place used their own local mean time based on the exact longitude (i.e. time in Calcutta will be ahead of time in Bombay), then check the LMT checkbox. Basically, the person giving you the birthtime should tell you whether a clock set for LMT or LST was used for measuring the time. However, nobody sets clocks for LMT these days and you can safely assume LST. Only when you deal with very old charts, you need to worry. Birthdata given in some charts in Dr Raman's " Notable Horoscopes " uses LMT and he mentions it specifically when giving the time. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------ sohamsa , Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Namaskar Amit, > > Thank you for your mail. I somehow have a great inclination to use the precision data especially about the geographical coordinates, thankfully made available by, e.g. microsoft and google. And I find the results startlingly more illuminating. But this is only if I, or the natives, know the exact location of the event, including birth. Similarly, I was wondering if the local time might not be a better option, for GMT afterall is a very broad receptacle for mapping time onto huage geographical areas. I look forward to hearing more on this. Best regards, > > Patheya > > hello Patheya > > GMT is always better then LMT..when birth placed data is available.. > > regard > > 2008/8/29 Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Dear Guruvi/Gurujanas, > > What does the LMT in the Data window [underneath the Time Zone] in JHora refer to - Local Mean Time? As opposed to the GMT? Right? The two obviously give very different results, especially in the D-Charts. JHora says, it's " useful for old dates " and I was wondering why the variation in the use value? But firstly, which one should one prefer? LMT or GMT? Thanks for enlightening. Best regards, > > > Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Om Namah ShivayaNamaste Narasimhaji,Thanks for your response. I thank you for the clarification that JHora DOES use the local time in the calculations, and NOT the standardized time. I think the larger part of my quandary was about the precision of geographical coordinates. Would you rather that the preset coordinates about a place should be preferred, as opposed to the more precise data, which is also available now a days. I have often found useful to locate the "address" of birth through the geo-mapping tools and sometimes the results are seemingly more satisfying. Best regards,Patheya--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote:Narasimha Rao <pvr Re: J Hora querysohamsa Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:40 AMNamaste, This is not an issue of "precision". It is merely an issue of how theclock used for measuring the time was set. Everybody in India sets their clocks to one time now (IST - 5:30 eastof GMT). If you ask ten people in ten Indian cities "what is the timeright now", they should all say the same thing (unless their clockswere wrong). A person in Calcutta does not set a time that is a fewminutes ahead of a person in Bombay. In other words, all their clocksare set to the LST - local standard time. In case of India, LST usedis IST. In case of USA east coast, the LST used is EST. If you don't check LMT checkbox, JHora will NOT use GMT as you weresaying BTW - it uses the LST of the place. For one city, this LST maybe 4 hours west of GMT and for another city it may be 5:30 hours eastof GMT. In all likelihood, the clock used would've been set for thelocal standard time anyway. If someone was born in *old* days when there was no standard time andevery place used their own local mean time based on the exactlongitude (i.e. time in Calcutta will be ahead of time in Bombay),then check the LMT checkbox. Basically, the person giving you the birthtime should tell you whethera clock set for LMT or LST was used for measuring the time. However,nobody sets clocks for LMT these days and you can safely assume LST.Only when you deal with very old charts, you need to worry. Birthdatagiven in some charts in Dr Raman's "Notable Horoscopes" uses LMTandhe mentions it specifically when giving the time. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------ sohamsa , Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya> > Namaskar Amit,> > Thank you for your mail. I somehow have a great inclination to usethe precision data especially about the geographical coordinates,thankfully made available by, e.g. microsoft and google. And I findthe results startlingly more illuminating. But this is only if I, orthe natives, know the exact location of the event, including birth.Similarly, I was wondering if the local time might not be a betteroption, for GMT afterall is a very broad receptacle for mapping timeonto huage geographical areas. I look forward to hearing more on this.Best regards,> > Patheya> > hello Patheya > > GMT is always better then LMT..when birth placed data is available..> > regard> > 2008/8/29 Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal> > Om Namah Shivaya> > Dear Guruvi/Gurujanas,> > What does the LMT in the Data window [underneath the Time Zone] inJHora refer to - Local Mean Time? As opposed to the GMT? Right? Thetwo obviously give very different results, especially in the D-Charts.JHora says, it's "useful for old dates" and I was wondering whythevariation in the use value? But firstly, which one should one prefer?LMT or GMT? Thanks for enlightening. Best regards,> > > Patheya--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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