Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Jyotisha, Very sorry to disturb your sleep. Here is the latest lesson#11 compiled by sarat. I have done some touching and added a few questions that should set your mind into deep thought. Hope you all enjoy it. doubts are most welcome. those who do not ask are the ones who will never learn...so, go ahead and address your questions to the Jyotish Guru's. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath PS In case you have problems downloading, then go to www./Varahamihira and to the files section for Lesson#11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 <HTML><PRE> Hare Ram Krishna Om Ganeshaya Namah. Pranaam to my Jyotish Guru Gambhir singh and Sanjayji, Pranaam to all members of the class. This is my first mail in the group after joining the classes. I had joined the classes few months back and had since been trying to catch up with the class. I'll try to answer the questions of Lesson 11. Q1: Determine the predominating Tatwa in the Lagna of your chart. Ans1: My Lagna is Simha. So the tatwa is Agni. I assumed planets having Rasi aspects on my lagna would alter the tatwa accordingly My lagna is aspected by Exalted Mars : Agni Moolatrikona Moon: Jala Rahu :Vayu Saturn :Vayu Predominantly my lagna has Agni and Vayu Tatwa. ---- ---- Q2: What is implied by the exaltation and debility of Rahu in Taurus & Scorpio respectively? Why is Ketu not exalted for matters of Longevity? Ans : I am not sure about the answer but still let me try. Answer 2A) Rahu should be exalted Taurus for Ayur Matters for following reasons. Rahu is materialistic and cause of rebirth so it would tend to make a person live longer for materialistic gains. Taurus is natural 2nd house(Maraka sthana) and Artha trikona. Being in Taurus It can handle all its significance. It has aspect on Sixth house an Artha(wealth) Trikona, Enemies house and Shad ripu house. It can also aspect natural 10th house another artha trikona. From there it can aspect both the natural houses of longivity 8th and 3rd?(12th aspect). So being in taurus it can happily oversee all its significances. By similar logic. In scorpio (natural 8th) It would aspect 12th,4th (Moksha Sthanas) and 2nd(Marka sthana) and 9th(Dharma)(Retro 12th aspect?) so being in scorpio its not at all having a very happy view and hence debilitated. Answer 2B) For matters related to longivity ketu would not be exalted (happy) because being a Moksha Karaka it is against life. ---- Q3: What do you understand by the terms Moolatrikona and Swakhetra of each of the planets? Explain with illustrations. Ans: I'll try to figure it. Moolatrikona moola could mean root and trik houses are sama dharma houses. so Moolatrikona is where a planet can conduct its dharma duty) in the best manner. Moon's moolatrikona is Libra for following reasons, Moon is Vaisya and Libra is Shudra sign,Artha Trikona and Natural 2nd house of wealth. Moon is Jala Tatwa and Libra is Fixed Earth Sign. Moon signifies mother and Libra's Lord Venus is one of the karakas for father. Moon signifies Mind and heart 2nd house is kutumb. So mind and heart should be devoted to it?. Moon is Sweet speech and Natural 2nd house is mouth. Swakshetra means own house. so the house would have characteristics of the planet itself. for Moon Moon is Brahmana and Cancer is brahmana sign. Moon is Jala tatwa and Cancer is Jala tatwa. Moon signifies mind rules happiness and mind and Cancer is Natural 4th house. Moon signifies Mother and 4th house is signifies mother. For Mars: Mars is fiery Aries is a Agni Tatwa (but sun's half side Scorpio is Jala tatwa why? is it because its an even sign?) Mars is Tamasic Scorpio is Tamasic (but Moon half side Aries is Rajasic why? is it because its an odd sign?) Mars is Rules physical strength so rules Natural 1st house and 8th house of longivity. But I am not able to apply this logic consitently to all the planets all their properties I will try a bit more a reply latter. If I am wrong I request my guru to correct me. Sincerely Your Sishya Prabhakaran. ********************************************************************** -- These calculations were made using " Jagannatha Hora Lite " . It is a free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net. -- Date of Birth: July 19, 1971 Time of Birth: 9:00:00 am Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 78 E 00 Latitude of Birth: 10 N 55 Lunar month (maasa): Ashadha Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Dwadasi Tithi balance: 0.2921 Nakshatra balance: 0.0354 Sun-Moon Yoga: Vriddhi Sun-Moon Karana: Taitula Vara (weekday): Monday Sunrise = 6:03 am (Apparent rise - upper limb) Ayanamsa = 23-27-47 Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days Planet Position Pada CharaK Ascdt 13 Le 20 Poo.Pha. 1 - Sun 2 Cn 21 Punarvasu 4 DK Moon 22 Ta 51 Rohini 4 BK Mars ® 28 Cp 05 Dhanishtha 2 AK Mercury 27 Cn 05 Aasresha 4 AmK Jupiter ® 3 Sc 10 Visakha 4 GK Venus 21 Ge 29 Punarvasu 1 MK Saturn 9 Ta 51 Krittika 4 PiK Rahu 21 Cp 56 Sravanam 4 PK Ketu 21 Cn 56 Aasresha 2 - BhavaLg 16 Le 21 Poo.Pha. 1 - HoraLg 0 Li 28 Chitra 3 - GhatiLg 12 Aq 47 Satabhisham 2 - Dhooma 15 Sc 41 Anuradha 4 - Vyati 14 Le 18 Poo.Pha. 1 - Pari 14 Aq 18 Satabhisham 3 - I.Chapa 15 Ta 41 Rohini 2 - Upaketu 2 Ge 21 Mrigasira 3 - Kaala 10 Sg 50 Moola 4 - Mrityu 23 Cn 35 Aasresha 3 - ArthaPr 16 Le 45 Poo.Pha. 2 - YamaGha 10 Vi 38 Hastha 1 - Mandi 8 Sc 12 Anuradha 2 - Gulika 27 Li 10 Visakha 3 - +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Sat | | | | | | Ven | | | | Moo | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Sun | | | | | | GL | | Ket | | | | | | | | Mer | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | | | Rah | | Asc | | | | | | MarR | | BL | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | JupR | HL | | | | | | | | | Mnd | Glk | | | | | | | +----------------------+ </PRE></HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2000 Report Share Posted September 26, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Prabhakaran, Take the case of a person having saturn in the 7th house in Aquarius as the predominating kendra, then can we say that Agni would be the main tatwa in the chart? No. The Brahma Yoga gets its strength from kendra and so also the Kendra from Lagna determine the nature of the self. A predominating Mahapurusha Yoga can alter this. Other comments are given below: > I'll try to answer the questions of Lesson 11. > > Q1: Determine the predominating Tatwa in the Lagna of your chart. > Ans1: > My Lagna is Simha. > So the tatwa is Agni. > I assumed planets having Rasi aspects on my lagna would alter the > tatwa accordingly > My lagna is aspected by > Exalted Mars : Agni > Moolatrikona Moon: Jala > Rahu :Vayu > Saturn :Vayu RATH: HOW CAN MOON IN MOOLATRIKONA ASPECT SIMHA? > Predominantly my lagna has Agni and Vayu Tatwa. RATH: SO, WHICH ONE IS PREDOMINATING? THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE PREDOMINANT TATWA. > ---- > > Q2: What is implied by the exaltation and debility of Rahu in Taurus > & Scorpio > respectively? Why is Ketu not exalted for matters of Longevity? > Ans : I am not sure about the answer but still let me try. > > Answer 2A) Rahu should be exalted Taurus for Ayur Matters for > following reasons. > Rahu is materialistic and cause of rebirth so it would tend to > make a person live longer for materialistic gains. RATH: RAHU IS A GREAT KILLER. HE DOES NOT MAKE A PERSON LIVE LONGER, BUT SHORTER LIFE IS GIVEN BY IT. HE WOULD PREFER THET YOU DO NOT FULFILL ANY DESIRE, AND CREATE MORE NEW DESIRES SO THAT YOU RETURN TO THIS PLANET AGAIN AND AGAIN. > Taurus is natural 2nd house(Maraka sthana) and Artha trikona. > Being in Taurus It can handle all its significance. > It has aspect on Sixth house an Artha(wealth) Trikona, Enemies house > and Shad ripu house. > It can also aspect natural 10th house another artha trikona. > From there it can aspect both the natural houses of longivity 8th > and 3rd?(12th aspect). > > So being in taurus it can happily oversee all its significances. RATH: BRILLIANT POINT. > By similar logic. > In scorpio (natural 8th) It would aspect 12th,4th (Moksha Sthanas) > and 2nd(Marka sthana) and 9th(Dharma)(Retro 12th aspect?) so being > in scorpio its not at all having a very happy view and hence > debilitated. > > Answer 2B) For matters related to longivity ketu would not be exalted > (happy) because being a Moksha Karaka it is against life. RATH: NOT REALLY AGAINST LIFE. EXALTED KETU WILL MEAN MOKSHA ATTAINED AFTER DEATH. HOW CAN ANY JYOTISHA SAY THIS AS THIS IS THE PERSONAL AFFAIR OF GOD AND THE PLANETS CANNOT DICTATE TERMS TO BHAGAWAN. THEY ARE SUBSERVIENT TO HIM. THAT IS WHY BEING THE MOKSHA KARAKA KETU GIVES THE AYANA TO BHAGAVAN, BUT CANNOT ACHIEVE ITS SIGNIFICATION OF GIVING MOKSHA INDEPENDANTLY BY BEING EXALTED FOR AYUS MATTERS. > ---- > > Q3: What do you understand by the terms Moolatrikona and Swakhetra of > each of the > planets? Explain with illustrations. > > Ans: I'll try to figure it. > > Moolatrikona moola could mean root and trik houses are sama dharma > houses. so Moolatrikona is where a planet can conduct its dharma > duty) in the best manner. RATH: RIGHT, USE THE TERM " OFFICE " TO EXPLAIN MOOLATRIKONA. > Moon's moolatrikona is Libra for following reasons, RATH: WHERE DID YOU GET THIS. WHAT ABOUT TAURUS? > Moon is Vaisya and Libra is Shudra sign,Artha Trikona and Natural > 2nd house of wealth. > Moon is Jala Tatwa and Libra is Fixed Earth Sign. > Moon signifies mother and Libra's Lord Venus is one of the karakas > for father. > Moon signifies Mind and heart 2nd house is kutumb. So mind and > heart should be devoted to it?. > Moon is Sweet speech and Natural 2nd house is mouth. > > Swakshetra means own house. so the house would have characteristics > of the planet itself. RATH: RIGHT, USE " HOME " TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THIS. > for Moon > Moon is Brahmana and Cancer is brahmana sign. > Moon is Jala tatwa and Cancer is Jala tatwa. > Moon signifies mind rules happiness and mind and Cancer is Natural > 4th house. > Moon signifies Mother and 4th house is signifies mother. > > For Mars: > Mars is fiery Aries is a Agni Tatwa (but sun's half side Scorpio is > Jala tatwa why? is it because its an even sign?) > Mars is Tamasic Scorpio is Tamasic (but Moon half side Aries is > Rajasic why? is it because its an odd sign?) > Mars is Rules physical strength so rules Natural 1st house and 8th > house of longivity. > > But I am not able to apply this logic consitently to all the planets > all their properties > I will try a bit more a reply latter. If I am wrong I request my guru > to correct me. > > Sincerely > Your Sishya > Prabhakaran. BEST WISHES SANJAY RATH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 || gurubhyoem namaha || Q1: Determine the predominating Tatwa in the Lagna of your chart. My lagna is Libra: Vayu tattva Mercury is in Libra: Bhu tattva Langnes is in Leo: Agni tattva Lagnes is Venus: Jala tattva Jupiter is aspecting Libra: Aakasa tattva Jupiter in Aq is aspecting Libra: Akasa tattva Aq is aspecting Libra: Vayu Leo is aspecting Libra: Agni tattva Taurus is aspecting Libra: Bhu tattva My Lagna is in Chitra. Martian constellation. Agni tattva. Again Lagna lord Venus will supress out this tattva. The influence of Venus over tattva is minimal (Jala and Agni are both bring down the effect of others). Mainly Bhu tattva with akasa tattva and agni and vayu tattva to follow. MAINLY BHU TATTVA. For the other questions I agree with Raghunatha Dasa and Sureshbabu Chandra. I will ponder over them a little more, and if I get any other reason/explanation I would post it. your sishya, Vijay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Vijaya and all others who attempted the answer to the assignment, Thanks for your sincere attempt. I want to clarify that the Body is composed of four kendra and these four kendra make up the various parts of the body. Akasha Tatwa like ethereal Vacuum permeates all the four kendras. Thus for example the Lagna is Libra. Thus the body is composed of the following parts and these shall be controlled as follows: LAGNA: LIBRA: VAYU: AIRY PARTS 4TH: CAPRICORN: PRITHVI: BONES AND OTHER SOLID PARTS 7TH; ARIES: AGNI: SIGNT, ENERGY AND LIFE FORCE. 10TH CANCER JALA FLUID SYSTEM INC. BLOOD AND LYMPH ETC. Now the next step will be to determine the planets placed in these signs and check as to how they influence each of the Tatwa in your Lagna Kendra (i.e. Physical Body). Thereafter, treat the PAKA LAGNA (sign occupied by the lord of Lagna) as the seat of intelligence and from the four kendra, determine the nature of this intelligence and other tatwa influences on it from the kendra to Paka Lagna. With Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - Pingali Vijaya Kumara Lakshmi Narayana Rao <pvklnrao Varaha Mihira Jyotish List <varahamihira > Friday, September 29, 2000 9:37 AM Re: [sri Guru] Lesson#11 > || gurubhyoem namaha || > > > Q1: Determine the predominating Tatwa in the Lagna of your chart. > > My lagna is Libra: Vayu tattva > Mercury is in Libra: Bhu tattva > > Langnes is in Leo: Agni tattva > Lagnes is Venus: Jala tattva > > Jupiter is aspecting Libra: Aakasa tattva > Jupiter in Aq is aspecting Libra: Akasa tattva > > Aq is aspecting Libra: Vayu > Leo is aspecting Libra: Agni tattva > Taurus is aspecting Libra: Bhu tattva > > My Lagna is in Chitra. Martian constellation. Agni tattva. Again Lagna lord > Venus will supress out this tattva. > The influence of Venus over tattva is minimal (Jala and Agni are both bring > down the effect of others). > > Mainly Bhu tattva with akasa tattva and agni and vayu tattva to follow. > > MAINLY BHU TATTVA. > > For the other questions I agree with Raghunatha Dasa and Sureshbabu Chandra. > I will ponder over them a little more, and if > I get any other reason/explanation I would post it. > > your sishya, > Vijay. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Prabhakaran, > So I should take lagna and kendras to determine the predominant tatwa > and not Rashi drishti's of planet on lagna. > I have Lagna as Simha. Saturn(10),Moon(10) and Jupiter®(4) in > kendras. > Simha = Agni > Saturn = Vayu > Moon = Jala > Jupiter = Aakash. > Since moon is in moolatrikona Can I say the predominant tatwa is > Jala?. RATH: MOON DOES INDICATE JALA TATWA. AND SEEMS TO BE THE STRONGEST IN YOUR CHART. ALSO YOU HAVE STILL NOT TRIED TO ANSWER THE MOOLATRIKONA/SWAKSHETRA DIFFERENCE. NOW I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN EXALTATION AND DEBILITY. BEST WISHES SANJAY RATH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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