Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 Jai Jai Sri Jannath!!! Vakratundaya Hum!!! Dear Gauranga, YOU WROTE: >Questions: What if there are more planets in the 12th? Should we consider all Devtas or chose the strongest? Yes, you should chose the strongest (by way of degrees - the one who has won over others). >Same thing: What if there are more planets aspecting it? All the planets aspecting the 12th will give the result. But again, the one who will rule over the rest of the planets will the strongest by the same rule as above. >And finally: What if the Bhavapati stands together with other planets Never mind with whom he is. It is he as the Lord of the 12th who will decide the Ishta. Hare Krishna!!! Regards, Sarat. - Gauranga Das <gauranga Varahamihira <varahamihira > Sunday, December 12, 1999 11:04 AM [Jagannath] Re: UPSJ 1.2.69 > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Gurudeva, > > Pranaams. > > Just to clarify a point: > > > in the Navamsa which is the Dharma Amsa. This act of giving everything > > including Moksha is what we refer to as the fundamental function of the Lord > > and in this we see the Ista Devata or the " Giver of all goodness " . > > When finding out the Ishta devta we look for > > 1) planets in 12th from Krakamsha > 2) if no planets than Rasi Dristi > 3) if no planets in Rasi Dristi then the Bhavapati will signify the Ista Devta. > > Questions: What if there are more planets in the 12th? Should we consider all Devtas or chose the strongest? > > Same thing: What if there are more planets aspecting it? > > And finally: What if the Bhavapati stands together with other planets? > > Your shishya, Gauranga das > > > > > > Om Tat Sat > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > - > > YND <vedant > > Sanjay Rath <srath > > Tuesday, October 12, 1999 19:58 SJVC > > UPSJ 1.2.69 > > > > > > > Dear Gurudev, > > > Please accept my respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath! > > > > > > In your notes to 1.2.69 you write: > > > > > > " This translation is a logical continuation of stanza 1.2.68. Other > > opinions > > > like a benefic in Swamsa giving moksa (emancipation). " > > > > > > The second sentence does not seem a grammaticaly correct one. What did you > > > mean by this statement? > > > > > > Your sisya > > > Yasomatinandana das > > > -----Èñõîäíîå ñîîáùåíèå----- > > > Îò: Narasimha Rao <pvr > > > Êîìó: vedic astrology <vedic astrology > > > > Êîïèÿ: pemmaraju rayudu <pvrrayudu; Sanjay > > <srath; > > > varahamihira <varahamihira > > > > Äàòà: 11 îêòÿáðÿ 1999 ã. 5:37 > > > Òåìà: [Jagannath] EXAMPLE: Phases of good and bad predictions > > > > > > > > > >Namaste friends, > > > > > > > >I mentioned a while ago that an astrologer may experience phases > > > >of good and bad predictions. D-27 (nakshatramsa) is the chart of > > > >strengths and weaknesses as per Parasara. I said that the 2nd and > > > >5th in D-27 show vaag bala (power of speech) and intuition. I > > > >said that we can treat the dasa rasi as per D-27 Narayana dasa as > > > >lagna and do this analysis for various periods in one's life. I > > > >will give an example - myself. > > > > > > > >Because the principles we use have some truth in it, we have > > > >successes even in the worst dasas. Because the principles we use > > > >help only to some extent and a guess has to be made finally, our > > > >successes depend on our luck also. And our luck depends on our > > > >dasas. So we don't have the same amount of successes always. > > > > > > > >* * * > > > > > > > >Birthdata: April 4, 1970, 5:50 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. > > > > > > > >My D-27: > > > > > > > >Ar - Mars; Ta - Saturn; Ge - Mercury & Jupiter; Cn - Sun & Ketu; > > > >Le - Lagna; Sc - Moon & Venus; Cp - Rahu. (Lagna in rasi chart: > > > >Vi.) > > > > > > > >Event data: > > > > > > > >(1) 1998-99: I did not make many public predictions. I made just > > > >one prediction in print and it was a disaster. I predicted very > > > >very confidently that Clinton would be impeached. I was wrong. I > > > >was confident, but wrong this year. > > > > > > > >(2) 1999: I wasn't feeling confident like last year, but I made > > > >some predictions in a magazine. Not all were right, but some were > > > >very correct. I wrote in print that India might have an > > > >unpleasant confrontation after May 18 (air strikes on Pakistani > > > >infiltrators were from May 25), that India would take a bold > > > >stand ( " no talks until infiltrators leave " ) and that the world > > > >would support India's bold stand (even US did!). I also wrote > > > >that Russia would get into trouble after the eclipse and that > > > >Russia might get involved in an armed conflict. > > > > > > > >Let us see how this fits with my D-27 Narayana dasa. > > > > > > > >* * * > > > > > > > >If you have trouble with calculations, please refer to the > > > >archives for Narayana dasa lessons. > > > > > > > >Because 27 modulo 12 is 3, look at the 3rd lord in my rasi chart. > > > >It is Mars. Mars is in Ar in D-27. Ar is stronger than Li. > > > > > > > >So start dasas from Ar. Ar dasa is 1970-1982. Ta dasa is > > > >1982-1998 (Venus is in Sc). Ge dasa is 1988-2000. > > > > > > > >Antardasas in Ge dasa go as Ge, Cn, Le, Vi etc. > > > > > > > >I ran Ar antardasa during Apr 1998-Apr 1999. I ran Ta antardasa > > > >during Apr 1999-Apr 2000. Let us analyze both now. In each > > > >antardasa, take the antardasa sign as lagna and analyze the > > > >chart. > > > > > > > >* * * > > > > > > > >(1) Ar antardasa: The 2nd from Ar is occupied in natal D-27 by > > > >Saturn. This is not good for vaag bala. Saturn in 2nd weakens > > > >vaag bala (power of speech). > > > > > > > >The 5th house from Ar shows the power of intuition in Ar dasa. > > > >The 5th from Ar is Leo. It is empty and it is aspected by Mars > > > >and Rahu. Neither Mars nor Rahu promises good intuition. Rahu in > > > >fact misleads. > > > > > > > >However, arudha of Venus is in Leo! Watery benefic Venus gives > > > >smooth intuition in 5th. Arudha of Venus in 5th doesn't do that > > > >in reality, but the native will feel that way. So I was very > > > >comfortable with my intuition then and felt it was working > > > >smoothly. > > > > > > > >(2) Ta antardasa: The 2nd from Ta is Gemini. Mercury and Jupiter > > > >occupy it!! So Ta antardasa can be reasonably good for me even in > > > >a bad mahadasa. Mercury and Jupiter in 2nd suggest good vaag > > > >bala. The 5th house from there is Virgo. It has no planets and > > > >the same duo aspects it ffrom Ge. Ethery Jupiter gives good > > > >intuition, while earthy Mercury gives clarity and focus. > > > > > > > >However, arudhas of Sun, Saturn and Jupiter occupy Virgo. Sun and > > > >Saturn in 5th is not good. Saturn in 5th gives hesitating and > > > >lazy intuition. But Jupiter there gives good intuition after some > > > >Saturnine hesitation. So I feel less confident when making > > > >predictions in print this year. Despite some creditable successes > > > >this year, I don't feel too confident when I look at charts this > > > >year. > > > > > > > >* * * > > > > > > > >I hope some ideas presented here will provoke thoughts. > > > > > > > >Points to consider: > > > > > > > >(1) Astrologer's chart also matters, especially when the > > > >principles used are weak. > > > > > > > >(2) Nakshatramsa is important for that. D-24 shows knowledge, but > > > >it is D-27 that shows whether one's intuition is powerful and > > > >whether one's vaak (speech) is powerful. > > > > > > > >(3) Narayana dasa is an excellent phalita dasa and Narayana dasa > > > >of D-27 can be used to time phases of good and bad predictions. > > > > > > > >(4) An astrologer may feel diffident, but make good predictions. > > > >He may feel confident and make stupid predictions. How one feels > > > >is an illusion and that illusion can be different from the > > > >reality. Arudha padas of planets help in understanding the > > > >native's illusions/perceptions. And, arudha lagna helps in > > > >understanding the illusions/perceptions of the world about the > > > >native. > > > > > > > >* * * > > > > > > > >As Satish pointed out, today's astrologers mix up many techniques > > > >because their precise uses are lost to us. We have to understand > > > >the precise uses of varous tools, before astrology is accepted as > > > >a valid subject. We have a herculean task in front of us. > > > > > > > >If we keep faith in Parasara and strive to understand him > > > >correctly, I am confident that we will have an astrology > > > >department in many universities oneday. > > > > > > > >May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > >Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > >HARI OM TAT SAT > > > >Jaya Jagannatha Mahaprabhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > HARI OM TAT SAT > > Jaya Jagannatha Mahaprabhu > > > > ------ > > GRAB THE GATOR! 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