Guest guest Posted December 11, 2000 Report Share Posted December 11, 2000 -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) <Shyamasundara.ACBSP Címzett: Ram Kumar-Jaswal <ram.kumar.jaswal; Sanjay Rath <srath; Jyotish Services <Jyotish.Services Másolatot kap: <vedic astrology >; <varahamihira > Elküldve: 2000. december 11. 7:30 Tárgy: Asura yoga or Viparita raja Yoga? > > Dear Ram, > > Unlike what was mentioned in the mail of Syamasundara Prabhu, ASURA YOGA > > IS CAUSED ONLY, I REPEAT ONLY, BY THE PLACEMENT OF THE GREAT BENEFIC > > JUPITER IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. > > This is simplistic and superficial. As a scholar such as yourself knows > there are exceptions to every rule, this goes for Guru in the 8th house as > well. Just as I had previously stated that Lagna Lord conjuct Rahu/Ketu > causes problems I am aware that there will be special exceptions as in the > case of Satcitananda Bhaktivinode Thakura. Those exceptions depend on > special circumstances prevailing in the chart. > > > > Before going into timing events, my request to all was to try to > > understand Srila Prabhupada, his greatness, his unflinching devotion and > > try to satisfy oneself as to whether the chart in front can explain the > > real Srila. Nothing else to add to this most august gathering, > > Yours humbly, > > Sanjay Rath > > When I look into the chart I don't see Asura yoga but Raja Yoga in the 8th. > > Shyama > www.ShyamamasundaraDasa.com > > 2.6.1 Viparita Raja Yoga > > The problem with such blanket statements as " Jupiter in the 8th is an > asura-yoga " is that they ignore the exceptions. In fact it is not so much an > exception but rather a major principle in astrological synthesis of > determining what part of the spectrum of results a planet, sign or house > will give. This result is determined by carefully balancing several factors > before reaching a decision. It is not that Jupiter in the 8th house will > give the same identical result for each person who has this configuration. > The result will vary considerably according to the following criterion: What > sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the ruling planet of > the 8th house, what is the relationship between the planet who rules the 8th > house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or conjoining the 8th > house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th house; is the planet > situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in between by positional > strength (stana-bala), temporal strength (kala-bala), etc.; are any special > yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses does the planet who is > tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully scrutinizing the situation > should a person make a decision. > > In this case Nalini Kanta [and Sanjaya Rath] has ignored the concept of > astrological yoga. In astrology certain combinations of planets either in > combination of signs, houses, nakshatras, or planets will constitute a yoga > which will give special results. It adds another dimension to astrology. > > One of the yogas is called Viparita Raja Yoga (VRY) which I will now > describe in detail. As already mentioned the 8th house is considered to be > quite evil, its portfolio mainly ruling over death. There are other negative > houses in the horoscope namely the 6th-sickness, enemies, obstacles, > injuries, accidents, etc. And the 12th-loss, poverty, confusion, wandering > aimlessly, self-destruction, insanity, imprisonment, etc. > > Not only are the houses evil but so are the planets that rule the evil > houses. Suppose down the street from where you lived was a saloon/brothel, > doubtlessly an evil establishment. Do you doubt that the person who owned > such a place would also be of immoral disposition? > > Therefore wherever such evil planet goes he wreaks destruction. So what to > do with the evil lords of the 6th, 8th, and 12th? The best place for them to > be is to stay in one of these houses then they cause no harm but rather > increase benefits. This is the idea of Viparita Raja Yoga. The formal > definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22: > > " If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in > the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the > 12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three > lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or > conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other > planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings > and blessed with fame and wealth. " > > Satyacarya in his Jataka Satyacariyam confirms this stating: > > " If the lord of the 8th house is in the 6th, 8th or 12th, he will make the > significations of these houses prosper . . . " > > There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no > other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces > Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th > lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but > because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th, > then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In > this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position. > > So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita Raja > Yoga can be said to exist. This Viparita Raja Yoga is a very favorable one > and will give different results depending on the planets and houses > involved. > > Now let us revert to Srila Prabhupada's chart. In his case he has Capricorn > Ascendant and in the 8th is Jupiter, Sun and Ketu. Jupiter is the lord of > 12th and the Sun as the lord of the 8th is in his own house, the 8th. Thus > we have a perfect Viparita Raja Yoga. The lords of 8th and 12th conjoined > together in the 8th. Not only that but Jupiter is able to aspect the 12th > house from this position and make its spiritual significations strong. > > Even without the Viparita Raja Yoga, Sun in the 8th is very powerful because > it is a dictum of astrology that whenever a planet is posited in his own > sign or aspects his own sign, that sign (and house which the sign rules) > becomes very strong. So the Sun is bound to give good results. But what of > Jupiter as 12th lord in the 8th? Here is the opinion of several authorities. > [italics mine.] > > Parasara Muni: > " If the 12th lord is in the 8th, the native will always gain, will speak > affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good > qualities. " Brhat Parasara Hora Sastra 24.140 > > > Satyacarya: > " If the lord of the 12th house is placed in the 8th, the native will > experience happiness and unhappiness in almost equal amounts. Benefic > combinations cause auspicious results to happen. [such as planets in 5th and > 9th as is found in Prabhupada's chart.] If there is combination with the > lord of the 6th house, the period will prove to be extremely auspicious and > cause good results to happen. Also, the effects will be modified by the > nature of the planets associated with the lord of the 12th house. " > Satyajatakam 4.12.8 > > Ramadayalu in his Sanketanidhi quotes Lomasa Rsi: > " When the lord of the 12th house occupies the 2nd or the 8th, the natives > devotion to Lord Krsna will be immense. He will be endowed with all good > qualities and will speak kindly. He will be charitably disposed. " > Sanketanidhi 6.98 > > Bhrgu Samhita Paddhati (BSP) says the following about Jupiter as the 12th > lord in the 8th in Leo: > " . . . ; gets power by spending much money acquired in foreign countries; . > . .gets the power of old and serious things helping the life career [mystic > and occult knowledge, ancient lore, knowledge of past lifes, metaphysics, > philosophy, etc.] . . . spends the daily routine of life with great dignity > and influence. " BSP p. 567 > > B.V. Raman: > " The native will be rich and celebrated, will enjoy a luxurious life with > many servants waiting on him. Gain through deaths and legacy is indicated. > Interest in occult subjects and devoted to Lord Visnu, he will be righteous, > famous and a gentle speaker being endowed with many good qualities of head > and heart. " How To Judge A Horoscope Vol. 2, pg 420. > > >From Transcendental Hoproscope of Srila Prabhupada by Shyamasundara Dasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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