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Feladó: Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA)

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Címzett: Ram Kumar-Jaswal <ram.kumar.jaswal; Sanjay Rath

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Elküldve: 2000. december 11. 7:30

Tárgy: Asura yoga or Viparita raja Yoga?

 

 

> > Dear Ram,

> > Unlike what was mentioned in the mail of Syamasundara Prabhu, ASURA YOGA

> > IS CAUSED ONLY, I REPEAT ONLY, BY THE PLACEMENT OF THE GREAT BENEFIC

> > JUPITER IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE.

>

> This is simplistic and superficial. As a scholar such as yourself knows

> there are exceptions to every rule, this goes for Guru in the 8th house as

> well. Just as I had previously stated that Lagna Lord conjuct Rahu/Ketu

> causes problems I am aware that there will be special exceptions as in the

> case of Satcitananda Bhaktivinode Thakura. Those exceptions depend on

> special circumstances prevailing in the chart.

>

>

> > Before going into timing events, my request to all was to try to

> > understand Srila Prabhupada, his greatness, his unflinching devotion and

> > try to satisfy oneself as to whether the chart in front can explain the

> > real Srila. Nothing else to add to this most august gathering,

> > Yours humbly,

> > Sanjay Rath

>

> When I look into the chart I don't see Asura yoga but Raja Yoga in the 8th.

>

> Shyama

> www.ShyamamasundaraDasa.com

>

> 2.6.1 Viparita Raja Yoga

>

> The problem with such blanket statements as " Jupiter in the 8th is an

> asura-yoga " is that they ignore the exceptions. In fact it is not so much an

> exception but rather a major principle in astrological synthesis of

> determining what part of the spectrum of results a planet, sign or house

> will give. This result is determined by carefully balancing several factors

> before reaching a decision. It is not that Jupiter in the 8th house will

> give the same identical result for each person who has this configuration.

> The result will vary considerably according to the following criterion: What

> sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the ruling planet of

> the 8th house, what is the relationship between the planet who rules the 8th

> house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or conjoining the 8th

> house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th house; is the planet

> situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in between by positional

> strength (stana-bala), temporal strength (kala-bala), etc.; are any special

> yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses does the planet who is

> tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully scrutinizing the situation

> should a person make a decision.

>

> In this case Nalini Kanta [and Sanjaya Rath] has ignored the concept of

> astrological yoga. In astrology certain combinations of planets either in

> combination of signs, houses, nakshatras, or planets will constitute a yoga

> which will give special results. It adds another dimension to astrology.

>

> One of the yogas is called Viparita Raja Yoga (VRY) which I will now

> describe in detail. As already mentioned the 8th house is considered to be

> quite evil, its portfolio mainly ruling over death. There are other negative

> houses in the horoscope namely the 6th-sickness, enemies, obstacles,

> injuries, accidents, etc. And the 12th-loss, poverty, confusion, wandering

> aimlessly, self-destruction, insanity, imprisonment, etc.

>

> Not only are the houses evil but so are the planets that rule the evil

> houses. Suppose down the street from where you lived was a saloon/brothel,

> doubtlessly an evil establishment. Do you doubt that the person who owned

> such a place would also be of immoral disposition?

>

> Therefore wherever such evil planet goes he wreaks destruction. So what to

> do with the evil lords of the 6th, 8th, and 12th? The best place for them to

> be is to stay in one of these houses then they cause no harm but rather

> increase benefits. This is the idea of Viparita Raja Yoga. The formal

> definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22:

>

> " If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in

> the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the

> 12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three

> lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or

> conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other

> planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings

> and blessed with fame and wealth. "

>

> Satyacarya in his Jataka Satyacariyam confirms this stating:

>

> " If the lord of the 8th house is in the 6th, 8th or 12th, he will make the

> significations of these houses prosper . . . "

>

> There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no

> other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces

> Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th

> lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but

> because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th,

> then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In

> this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position.

>

> So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita Raja

> Yoga can be said to exist. This Viparita Raja Yoga is a very favorable one

> and will give different results depending on the planets and houses

> involved.

>

> Now let us revert to Srila Prabhupada's chart. In his case he has Capricorn

> Ascendant and in the 8th is Jupiter, Sun and Ketu. Jupiter is the lord of

> 12th and the Sun as the lord of the 8th is in his own house, the 8th. Thus

> we have a perfect Viparita Raja Yoga. The lords of 8th and 12th conjoined

> together in the 8th. Not only that but Jupiter is able to aspect the 12th

> house from this position and make its spiritual significations strong.

>

> Even without the Viparita Raja Yoga, Sun in the 8th is very powerful because

> it is a dictum of astrology that whenever a planet is posited in his own

> sign or aspects his own sign, that sign (and house which the sign rules)

> becomes very strong. So the Sun is bound to give good results. But what of

> Jupiter as 12th lord in the 8th? Here is the opinion of several authorities.

> [italics mine.]

>

> Parasara Muni:

> " If the 12th lord is in the 8th, the native will always gain, will speak

> affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good

> qualities. " Brhat Parasara Hora Sastra 24.140

>

>

> Satyacarya:

> " If the lord of the 12th house is placed in the 8th, the native will

> experience happiness and unhappiness in almost equal amounts. Benefic

> combinations cause auspicious results to happen. [such as planets in 5th and

> 9th as is found in Prabhupada's chart.] If there is combination with the

> lord of the 6th house, the period will prove to be extremely auspicious and

> cause good results to happen. Also, the effects will be modified by the

> nature of the planets associated with the lord of the 12th house. "

> Satyajatakam 4.12.8

>

> Ramadayalu in his Sanketanidhi quotes Lomasa Rsi:

> " When the lord of the 12th house occupies the 2nd or the 8th, the natives

> devotion to Lord Krsna will be immense. He will be endowed with all good

> qualities and will speak kindly. He will be charitably disposed. "

> Sanketanidhi 6.98

>

> Bhrgu Samhita Paddhati (BSP) says the following about Jupiter as the 12th

> lord in the 8th in Leo:

> " . . . ; gets power by spending much money acquired in foreign countries; .

> . .gets the power of old and serious things helping the life career [mystic

> and occult knowledge, ancient lore, knowledge of past lifes, metaphysics,

> philosophy, etc.] . . . spends the daily routine of life with great dignity

> and influence. " BSP p. 567

>

> B.V. Raman:

> " The native will be rich and celebrated, will enjoy a luxurious life with

> many servants waiting on him. Gain through deaths and legacy is indicated.

> Interest in occult subjects and devoted to Lord Visnu, he will be righteous,

> famous and a gentle speaker being endowed with many good qualities of head

> and heart. " How To Judge A Horoscope Vol. 2, pg 420.

>

> >From Transcendental Hoproscope of Srila Prabhupada by Shyamasundara Dasa

>

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