Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Sonali, You can call me Sanjay without a Ji. >When it is said that 'worship of good or evil deities', how do we >co-relate that with people who dont do puja and such ? In Jaimini Sutra (Ref:Jaimini Updesa/SRath) malefics in 12th from Ak can give worship of lower dieties (Ketu not malefic here). Also Maharishi says Venus if being the 12th lord from Ak can gives worship of of lower dieties too. Refer charts like Hitler or Ted Bundy (given in last Jyotish Digest) Note thier 12th from Ak is lorded by Venus and Venus was the Ak. My understanding is, 12th from Ak is Ishta, Ishta means just the desires of the soul. Now when we worship higherforms then it becomes Ishta Devata. 12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul. Everybody has some Ishta follows that path. Naturally a native will be drawn to matters related to 12th Ak and give the person " a purpose " . But proper worship I think we just make sure we are in the right path. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hare Rama Krishna On 11/25/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22 wrote: || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya ||Dear Sanjay P ji,How did you arrive at the birth time.Thanks.Regards,Sonalisohamsa , Sanjay Prabhakaran<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:>> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Jyotishas,> My few comments on the chart,> The chart has Sankranti Dosha. The Birthday (Assumed after Sunrise) lord Is> Venus.>> Atmakaaraka is Mars in Navamsa the 12th from Mars has Saturn indebility> could give worship of similar dieties.> Trines to Atmkaaraka is Venus Giving Skills in Painting, I think the time> could be adjusted to get the Moon in Trines to Venus also.>> The Tithi of Birth is Navami ruled by Sun, Tithi lord is inSankranti Dosha> with close conjunction with Debilitated Venus. Tithi indicates the Desires> of the Individual.>> Note the Chart has a clear Nala Yoga, Where all grahas are in DualSigns.> Giving very flexible character. All planets in the Dual signs inquadrant> gives name across 4 Oceans (Chatusaagara Yoga?). >> The Arudha Lagna have influence of the Jupiter or Moon to make aperson> popular. Note that all Dual Signs arudha are falling in Dual Signs.> Therefore the lagna could be one of the Dual Signs. >> Two Graha in Rashi Sandhi, Sun and Jupiter, Thereby destroyingsignificance> Leo and Pisces and Saggittarius. One of these signes could berelated to 4th> for early of mother too. I suggest Virgo Lagna and below given time.>>>> Warm Regards> Sanjay P>> Hare Rama Krishna>>>>>>>>>> MF Husain>> Natal Chart >> September 17, 1915> Time: 6:18:35> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 20' 00 " , 17 N 40' 00 " > Pandharpur, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Rakshasa - Bhadrapada> Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.25% left)> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)> Nakshatra: Moola (Ke) (25.41% left)> Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (97.58% left)> Karana: Balava (Mo) ( 40.51% left)> Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Li)> Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ar)> Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus)>> Sunrise: 6:16:40> Sunset: 18:29:23> Janma Ghatis: 0.0800>> Ayanamsa: 22-41-00.04> Sidereal Time: 5:29:26>>>> On 11/20/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22> wrote:> >> >> >> > || Om Namo Bhagavatey Satyadevaaya || > >> > Dear Rathji,> >> > I found the following birth details fromwikipedia.org<http://wikipedia.org> > >> > September 17, 1915, Pandharpur, Maharashtra> > (Longitude 75:23 Latitude 17:41)> >> > Brief Summary:> >> > M F Husain is a well known Indian artist. > >> > He first became known as an artist in the late 1940s. In 1952,his> > first solo exhibition was held at Zürich and over the next fewyears,> > his work was widely seen in Europe and USA. > >> > In 1966, he was awarded the Padma Shree by the Government ofIndia.> > In the following year, he made his first film, Through the Eyesof a> > Painter. It was shown at the Berlin Festival and won a Golden Bear.> >> > Early years> > Husain's mother had died when he was an infant. His fatherremarried> > and moved to Indore where Husain went to school. In 1935, hemoved to > > Bombay and got admitted to the J J School of Arts. He startedoff by> > painting cinema hoardings. He was a struggling artist until his> > painting was first exhibited in Bombay.> > > > Later years> > Husain went on to become the highest paid painter in India. Hehas> > also worked on few movies, including Gajagamini (with his muse> > Madhuri Dixit who was the subject of a series of his paintings which> > he signed Fida) and Meenaxi: A Tale of Three Cities (with Tabu).His> > autobiography is being made into a movie tentatively titled " The> > Making of the Painter. " > >> > Regards,> > Sonali> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...>wrote:> > >> > >> > > om namo bhagavate vasudevaya> > > Dear Sonali> > > I agree with most of your views except about his views on Hinduism> > part. He is a pervert and thats it. Accept it and let it be. Ifyou> > can get his chart details it will be worth while to study.> > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath> > > * * *> > > Sri Jagannath Center®> > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road> > > New Delhi 110060, India> > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> > > * * *> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > *tat savitur varenyam*> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sanjay P, Namaskar Please add that Venus must be afflicted and associated with the twelfth from karakamsa, for the focus to be on the darker forms. Otherwise a strong Venus in such a position indicates Sri Lakshmi. I’m sure that you knew, just that you left it out. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** Sanjay Prabhakaran [sanjaychettiar] 02 December 2005 23:31 sohamsa Re: Re: M F Hussain birth data || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Sonali, You can call me Sanjay without a Ji. >When it is said that 'worship of good or evil deities', how do we >co-relate that with people who dont do puja and such ? In Jaimini Sutra (Ref:Jaimini Updesa/SRath) malefics in 12th from Ak can give worship of lower dieties (Ketu not malefic here). Also Maharishi says Venus if being the 12th lord from Ak can gives worship of of lower dieties too. Refer charts like Hitler or Ted Bundy (given in last Jyotish Digest) Note thier 12th from Ak is lorded by Venus and Venus was the Ak. My understanding is, 12th from Ak is Ishta, Ishta means just the desires of the soul. Now when we worship higherforms then it becomes Ishta Devata. 12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul. Everybody has some Ishta follows that path. Naturally a native will be drawn to matters related to 12th Ak and give the person " a purpose " . But proper worship I think we just make sure we are in the right path. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hare Rama Krishna On 11/25/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22 wrote: || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya || Dear Sanjay P ji, How did you arrive at the birth time. Thanks. Regards, Sonali sohamsa , Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jyotishas, > My few comments on the chart, > The chart has Sankranti Dosha. The Birthday (Assumed after Sunrise) lord Is > Venus. > > Atmakaaraka is Mars in Navamsa the 12th from Mars has Saturn in debility > could give worship of similar dieties. > Trines to Atmkaaraka is Venus Giving Skills in Painting, I think the time > could be adjusted to get the Moon in Trines to Venus also. > > The Tithi of Birth is Navami ruled by Sun, Tithi lord is in Sankranti Dosha > with close conjunction with Debilitated Venus. Tithi indicates the Desires > of the Individual. > > Note the Chart has a clear Nala Yoga, Where all grahas are in Dual Signs. > Giving very flexible character. All planets in the Dual signs in quadrant > gives name across 4 Oceans (Chatusaagara Yoga?). > > The Arudha Lagna have influence of the Jupiter or Moon to make a person > popular. Note that all Dual Signs arudha are falling in Dual Signs. > Therefore the lagna could be one of the Dual Signs. > > Two Graha in Rashi Sandhi, Sun and Jupiter, Thereby destroying significance > Leo and Pisces and Saggittarius. One of these signes could be related to 4th > for early of mother too. I suggest Virgo Lagna and below given time. > > > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > MF Husain > > Natal Chart > > September 17, 1915 > Time: 6:18:35 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 75 E 20' 00 " , 17 N 40' 00 " > Pandharpur, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Rakshasa - Bhadrapada > Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.25% left) > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > Nakshatra: Moola (Ke) (25.41% left) > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (97.58% left) > Karana: Balava (Mo) ( 40.51% left) > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Li) > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ar) > Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus) > > Sunrise: 6:16:40 > Sunset: 18:29:23 > Janma Ghatis: 0.0800 > > Ayanamsa: 22-41-00.04 > Sidereal Time: 5:29:26 > > > > On 11/20/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Om Namo Bhagavatey Satyadevaaya || > > > > Dear Rathji, > > > > I found the following birth details from wikipedia.org<http://wikipedia.org> > > > > September 17, 1915, Pandharpur, Maharashtra > > (Longitude 75:23 Latitude 17:41) > > > > Brief Summary: > > > > M F Husain is a well known Indian artist. > > > > He first became known as an artist in the late 1940s. In 1952, his > > first solo exhibition was held at Zürich and over the next few years, > > his work was widely seen in Europe and USA. > > > > In 1966, he was awarded the Padma Shree by the Government of India. > > In the following year, he made his first film, Through the Eyes of a > > Painter. It was shown at the Berlin Festival and won a Golden Bear. > > > > Early years > > Husain's mother had died when he was an infant. His father remarried > > and moved to Indore where Husain went to school. In 1935, he moved to > > Bombay and got admitted to the J J School of Arts. He started off by > > painting cinema hoardings. He was a struggling artist until his > > painting was first exhibited in Bombay. > > > > Later years > > Husain went on to become the highest paid painter in India. He has > > also worked on few movies, including Gajagamini (with his muse > > Madhuri Dixit who was the subject of a series of his paintings which > > he signed Fida) and Meenaxi: A Tale of Three Cities (with Tabu). His > > autobiography is being made into a movie tentatively titled " The > > Making of the Painter. " > > > > Regards, > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate vasudevaya > > > Dear Sonali > > > I agree with most of your views except about his views on Hinduism > > part. He is a pervert and thats it. Accept it and let it be. If you > > can get his chart details it will be worth while to study. > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Sonali, The planet in the 12th from the Karakamsa is the one who delivers you not only from this birth, but hopefully from many births. It has lost its grahatva and is then a spark of the Divine. In whichever form, he/she/it should be worshipped. Ideally, it is him whom we should desire the most; that is why he is known as the ishta. This ishta is very personal, and can be with or without form. Best Regards, Sarbani agathachristie22 [agathachristie22] Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:58 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: M F Hussain birth data || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya ||Dear Sanjay, Nitin & Visti,Please call me Sonali (without the ji) too."12th from Ak is the natural desires of the soul""Venus must be afflicted"From this I understand that, the planet in 12th from Karakamsa or lord of that sign, indicates the soul's inclination to a quality represented by that Diety & hence the Worship of that Diety. If this is afflicted then it could give rise to the corresponding bad/evil deeds. So the quality represented by the Diety is the important point here, thats how we can co-relate it with cultures/people who do not puja etc.Please confirm or correct.Thanks.Regards,Sonali sohamsa , Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:>> || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Sonali,> > You can call me Sanjay without a Ji.> > >When it is said that 'worship of good or evil deities', how do we> >co-relate that with people who dont do puja and such ?> > > In Jaimini Sutra (Ref:Jaimini Updesa/SRath) malefics in 12th from Ak can> give worship of lower dieties (Ketu not malefic here).> Also Maharishi says Venus if being the 12th lord from Ak can gives worship> of of lower dieties too.> Refer charts like Hitler or Ted Bundy (given in last Jyotish Digest) Note> thier 12th from Ak is lorded by Venus and Venus was the Ak.> > My understanding is, 12th from Ak is Ishta, Ishta means just the desires of> the soul. Now when we worship higherforms then it becomes Ishta Devata. 12th> from Ak is the natural desires of the soul. Everybody has some Ishta follows> that path. Naturally a native will be drawn to matters related to 12th Ak> and give the person "a purpose". But proper worship I think we just make> sure we are in the right path.> > > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > On 11/25/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22> wrote:> >> >> > || Om Namo Bhagavate Satyadevaaya ||> >> > Dear Sanjay P ji,> >> >> > How did you arrive at the birth time.> >> > Thanks.> >> > Regards,> > Sonali> >> >> >> > sohamsa , Sanjay Prabhakaran> > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > >> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > My few comments on the chart,> > > The chart has Sankranti Dosha. The Birthday (Assumed after> > Sunrise) lord Is> > > Venus.> > >> > > Atmakaaraka is Mars in Navamsa the 12th from Mars has Saturn in> > debility> > > could give worship of similar dieties.> > > Trines to Atmkaaraka is Venus Giving Skills in Painting, I think> > the time> > > could be adjusted to get the Moon in Trines to Venus also.> > >> > > The Tithi of Birth is Navami ruled by Sun, Tithi lord is in> > Sankranti Dosha> > > with close conjunction with Debilitated Venus. Tithi indicates the> > Desires> > > of the Individual.> > >> > > Note the Chart has a clear Nala Yoga, Where all grahas are in Dual> > Signs.> > > Giving very flexible character. All planets in the Dual signs in> > quadrant> > > gives name across 4 Oceans (Chatusaagara Yoga?).> > >> > > The Arudha Lagna have influence of the Jupiter or Moon to make a> > person> > > popular. Note that all Dual Signs arudha are falling in Dual Signs.> > > Therefore the lagna could be one of the Dual Signs.> > >> > > Two Graha in Rashi Sandhi, Sun and Jupiter, Thereby destroying> > significance> > > Leo and Pisces and Saggittarius. One of these signes could be> > related to 4th> > > for early of mother too. I suggest Virgo Lagna and below given> > time.> > >> > >> > >> > > Warm Regards> > > Sanjay P> > >> > > Hare Rama Krishna> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > MF Husain> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > September 17, 1915> > > Time: 6:18:35> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 20' 00", 17 N 40' 00"> > > Pandharpur, India> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > >> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Rakshasa - Bhadrapada> > > Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.25% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)> > > Nakshatra: Moola (Ke) (25.41% left)> > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (97.58% left)> > > Karana: Balava (Mo) (40.51% left)> > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Li)> > > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ar)> > > Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus)> > >> > > Sunrise: 6:16:40> > > Sunset: 18:29:23> > > Janma Ghatis: 0.0800> > >> > > Ayanamsa: 22-41-00.04> > > Sidereal Time: 5:29:26> > >> > >> > >> > > On 11/20/05, agathachristie22 <agathachristie22> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > || Om Namo Bhagavatey Satyadevaaya ||> > > >> > > > Dear Rathji,> > > >> > > > I found the following birth details from> > wikipedia.org<http://wikipedia.org>> > > >> > > > September 17, 1915, Pandharpur, Maharashtra> > > > (Longitude 75:23 Latitude 17:41)> > > >> > > > Brief Summary:> > > >> > > > M F Husain is a well known Indian artist.> > > >> > > > He first became known as an artist in the late 1940s. In 1952,> > his> > > > first solo exhibition was held at Zürich and over the next few> > years,> > > > his work was widely seen in Europe and USA.> > > >> > > > In 1966, he was awarded the Padma Shree by the Government of> > India.> > > > In the following year, he made his first film, Through the Eyes> > of a> > > > Painter. It was shown at the Berlin Festival and won a Golden> > Bear.> > > >> > > > Early years> > > > Husain's mother had died when he was an infant. His father> > remarried> > > > and moved to Indore where Husain went to school. In 1935, he> > moved to> > > > Bombay and got admitted to the J J School of Arts. He started> > off by> > > > painting cinema hoardings. He was a struggling artist until his> > > > painting was first exhibited in Bombay.> > > >> > > > Later years> > > > Husain went on to become the highest paid painter in India. He> > has> > > > also worked on few movies, including Gajagamini (with his muse> > > > Madhuri Dixit who was the subject of a series of his paintings> > which> > > > he signed Fida) and Meenaxi: A Tale of Three Cities (with Tabu).> > His> > > > autobiography is being made into a movie tentatively titled "The> > > > Making of the Painter."> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Sonali> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > om namo bhagavate vasudevaya> > > > > Dear Sonali> > > > > I agree with most of your views except about his views on> > Hinduism> > > > part. He is a pervert and thats it. Accept it and let it be. If> > you> > > > can get his chart details it will be worth while to study.> > > > > With best wishes and warm regards,> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > * * *> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center®> > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road> > > > > New Delhi 110060, India> > > > > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162> > > > > * * *> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > *tat savitur varenyam*> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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