Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 {Om Namo Narayanaya} Respected Sri Vistiji, Namskar. Pardon me for intruding. When there are more than one planet in the tenth, Moon and Ketu? Is it correct to surmise that, thursday being the fourth day of the week from Monday, that Moon would give the effects of Guru, and what further can we deduce if the tenth is Pisces and the lord being Guru. What would then be the effects of ketu? Thanks & Regards Nalini {Om Namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya}sohamsa , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Karu, Namaskar> > The dictum is given by Jaimini: Mercury in the tenth will give the same> effects as Saturn.> > Here he is referring to the effects of Saturn on the lagna, i.e. hard> working, easily adaptable and nervous in crowds. So Jaimini is saying that> the planets in the tenth have an effect on the lagna... why is this? The> tenth house is the strongest house in the chart, as it affects our karma> yoga in this world. How we perform this karma has a deciding impact on who> we are. Hence when judging the personality of the native we must always> consider the tenth house as well, as that will be the mood of the person> when doing their karma yoga in this world.> > Jaimini has through this dictum gone as far as stating the exact effect that> planets in the tenth will have on our lagna. But we require a formula...> i.e. why Saturns effects for Mercury in the tenth? The lagna is the fourth> from the tenth house, and the parampara teaches that we must use the> weekday-order, and count to the fourth weekday from the planet in the tenth.> Example: the fourth weekday from Wednesday (mercury) is Saturday (lorded by> Saturn), thus saturns effects come from Mercury in the tenth.> > Sanjayji has on a different occasion mentioned that this could be applied to> the planets in the eleventh or twelfth from the navamsa lagna as well, but> the planets in the tenth have the prime importance.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Karu> 30 April 2006 15:25> sohamsa > Re: Re: Acqusition of cows-To Visti> > > > Namah Shivaya> > > > Dear Visti,> > <However, the reason that Sun-Jupiter yoga in the tenth gives> animal-husbandry is because this gives the effects of Mercury-Rahu on the> navamsa lagna itself... the principle is to count the fourth weekday> (including the nodes) from both the planets; sun=mercury, and jupiter=rahu.> So, if a mercury-rahu yoga emerges on the navamsa lagna itself, it will also> give animal husbandry. Mercury is in the navamsa lagna and aspected by Rahu,> thus confirming the case.>> > > > I know, same type of rule we use for grahas in 12th from AL. According to my> understanding, this rule has very clear meaning as it shows gains/lossto the> native, when he reject or ignore the "opposite" nature. And it is based on> Kala Chakra. > > But, when we come to Navamsa, you have mentioned grahas in 10th in the> Navamsa, effects to Navamsa lagna. Why it is effecting to Navamsa lagna ?> Why not 11th house or 2nd house ? > > Also, if any grahas in 7th, how it affect to 10th house ? Can we apply the> same rule ?> > > > Secondly, beneficial Grahas in the 10th, according to Parasara are Raja Yoga> Karakas. Don't you think it cause some contradition here ? Perhaps I missed> a lot, or misunderstood this. Could you clear this for me ?> > > > Thanks and Best Wishes> > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Similarly saturn in 10th will give effects of tuesday (4th from satuday). thanks angel --- nalini2818 <nalini2818 wrote: > > {Om Namo Narayanaya} > > Respected Sri Vistiji, > > Namskar. Pardon me for intruding. When there are > more than one planet in > the tenth, Moon and Ketu? > > Is it correct to surmise that, thursday being the > fourth day of the week > from Monday, that Moon would give the effects of > Guru, and what further > can we deduce if the tenth is Pisces and the lord > being Guru. > > What would then be the effects of ketu? > > Thanks & Regards > > Nalini > > {Om Namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} > sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " > <visti wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Karu, Namaskar > > > > The dictum is given by Jaimini: Mercury in the > tenth will give the > same > > effects as Saturn. > > > > Here he is referring to the effects of Saturn on > the lagna, i.e. hard > > working, easily adaptable and nervous in crowds. > So Jaimini is saying > that > > the planets in the tenth have an effect on the > lagna... why is this? > The > > tenth house is the strongest house in the chart, > as it affects our > karma > > yoga in this world. How we perform this karma has > a deciding impact on > who > > we are. Hence when judging the personality of the > native we must > always > > consider the tenth house as well, as that will be > the mood of the > person > > when doing their karma yoga in this world. > > > > Jaimini has through this dictum gone as far as > stating the exact > effect that > > planets in the tenth will have on our lagna. But > we require a > formula... > > i.e. why Saturns effects for Mercury in the tenth? > The lagna is the > fourth > > from the tenth house, and the parampara teaches > that we must use the > > weekday-order, and count to the fourth weekday > from the planet in the > tenth. > > Example: the fourth weekday from Wednesday > (mercury) is Saturday > (lorded by > > Saturn), thus saturns effects come from Mercury in > the tenth. > > > > Sanjayji has on a different occasion mentioned > that this could be > applied to > > the planets in the eleventh or twelfth from the > navamsa lagna as well, > but > > the planets in the tenth have the prime > importance. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa > [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Karu > > 30 April 2006 15:25 > > sohamsa > > Re: Re: Acqusition of cows-To > Visti > > > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > <However, the reason that Sun-Jupiter yoga in the > tenth gives > > animal-husbandry is because this gives the effects > of Mercury-Rahu on > the > > navamsa lagna itself... the principle is to count > the fourth weekday > > (including the nodes) from both the planets; > sun=mercury, and > jupiter=rahu. > > So, if a mercury-rahu yoga emerges on the navamsa > lagna itself, it > will also > > give animal husbandry. Mercury is in the navamsa > lagna and aspected by > Rahu, > > thus confirming the case.> > > > > > > > > I know, same type of rule we use for grahas in > 12th from AL. According > to my > > understanding, this rule has very clear meaning as > it shows > gains/lossto the > > native, when he reject or ignore the " opposite " > nature. And it is > based on > > Kala Chakra. > > > > But, when we come to Navamsa, you have mentioned > grahas in 10th in the > > Navamsa, effects to Navamsa lagna. Why it is > effecting to Navamsa > lagna ? > > Why not 11th house or 2nd house ? > > > > Also, if any grahas in 7th, how it affect to 10th > house ? Can we apply > the > > same rule ? > > > > > > > > Secondly, beneficial Grahas in the 10th, according > to Parasara are > Raja Yoga > > Karakas. Don't you think it cause some > contradition here ? Perhaps I > missed > > a lot, or misunderstood this. Could you clear this > for me ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and Best Wishes > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Angel, Namaskar No, you must include the nodes following after Saturday. Point is that this is the natural order, i.e. Life from the Sun, then death from Saturn and then the immediete stages of torture in various hells ruled by Rahu, and then conception and ruled by Ketu before life starts again with Sun. So the list is: Sun, Moon, Mars, Merc, Jup, Venus, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu and then all over again. So the fourth graha from Saturn is: Saturn, Rahu, Ketu and then Sun. As for multiple planets, i have not learnt any special rules, so i guess we should take the effects of each of the planets individually. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of angel 01 May 2006 06:53 sohamsa Re: Re: Mercury in the tenth-To Vistiji Similarly saturn in 10th will give effects of tuesday (4th from satuday). thanks angel --- nalini2818 <nalini2818 wrote: > > {Om Namo Narayanaya} > > Respected Sri Vistiji, > > Namskar. Pardon me for intruding. When there are > more than one planet in > the tenth, Moon and Ketu? > > Is it correct to surmise that, thursday being the > fourth day of the week > from Monday, that Moon would give the effects of > Guru, and what further > can we deduce if the tenth is Pisces and the lord > being Guru. > > What would then be the effects of ketu? > > Thanks & Regards > > Nalini > > {Om Namah Shivaya Namah Mallikarjunaya} > sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " > <visti wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Karu, Namaskar > > > > The dictum is given by Jaimini: Mercury in the > tenth will give the > same > > effects as Saturn. > > > > Here he is referring to the effects of Saturn on > the lagna, i.e. hard > > working, easily adaptable and nervous in crowds. > So Jaimini is saying > that > > the planets in the tenth have an effect on the > lagna... why is this? > The > > tenth house is the strongest house in the chart, > as it affects our > karma > > yoga in this world. How we perform this karma has > a deciding impact on > who > > we are. Hence when judging the personality of the > native we must > always > > consider the tenth house as well, as that will be > the mood of the > person > > when doing their karma yoga in this world. > > > > Jaimini has through this dictum gone as far as > stating the exact > effect that > > planets in the tenth will have on our lagna. But > we require a > formula... > > i.e. why Saturns effects for Mercury in the tenth? > The lagna is the > fourth > > from the tenth house, and the parampara teaches > that we must use the > > weekday-order, and count to the fourth weekday > from the planet in the > tenth. > > Example: the fourth weekday from Wednesday > (mercury) is Saturday > (lorded by > > Saturn), thus saturns effects come from Mercury in > the tenth. > > > > Sanjayji has on a different occasion mentioned > that this could be > applied to > > the planets in the eleventh or twelfth from the > navamsa lagna as well, > but > > the planets in the tenth have the prime > importance. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa > [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > Karu > > 30 April 2006 15:25 > > sohamsa > > Re: Re: Acqusition of cows-To > Visti > > > > > > > > Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > <However, the reason that Sun-Jupiter yoga in the > tenth gives > > animal-husbandry is because this gives the effects > of Mercury-Rahu on > the > > navamsa lagna itself... the principle is to count > the fourth weekday > > (including the nodes) from both the planets; > sun=mercury, and > jupiter=rahu. > > So, if a mercury-rahu yoga emerges on the navamsa > lagna itself, it > will also > > give animal husbandry. Mercury is in the navamsa > lagna and aspected by > Rahu, > > thus confirming the case.> > > > > > > > > I know, same type of rule we use for grahas in > 12th from AL. According > to my > > understanding, this rule has very clear meaning as > it shows > gains/lossto the > > native, when he reject or ignore the " opposite " > nature. And it is > based on > > Kala Chakra. > > > > But, when we come to Navamsa, you have mentioned > grahas in 10th in the > > Navamsa, effects to Navamsa lagna. Why it is > effecting to Navamsa > lagna ? > > Why not 11th house or 2nd house ? > > > > Also, if any grahas in 7th, how it affect to 10th > house ? Can we apply > the > > same rule ? > > > > > > > > Secondly, beneficial Grahas in the 10th, according > to Parasara are > Raja Yoga > > Karakas. Don't you think it cause some > contradition here ? Perhaps I > missed > > a lot, or misunderstood this. Could you clear this > for me ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and Best Wishes > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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