Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha Dear Visti, Tough to say. In India it would and this shows in the chart as they get attached or very involved. Sometimes you may get the chart of a couple where the first Upapada has nothing to do with the Lagna of the Spouse, then know that it is the second. In this manner you can check the number of 'marriage like relationships'intervening between the present spouse. The tools are there, but they have to be used with great intelligence. Look at the question of Saptamsa. You see Parasara taught the HORA SHASTRA or that part of Jyotish which is scientific and will reveal itself in all charts irrespective of who it is. Jaimini gave the Upadesa (Advisory Stanza) and showed the detailed examination of spirituality, various Devatas including Ista, Saptamsa, Rudramsa and other such divisions where the hand of God is clearly seen and where His will is going to totally prevail. Take my own chart. In Saptamsa, 7th Lord is Mercury in Scorpio and Mars is in Gemini with Moon. Daughter should be expected, but my mother took my wife to Jagannath and they did a small pooja for a son. I have a son now as the second. Parivartana Yoga worked, but could I have predicted this? Thus in areas where the Jaimini Sutra is going to be used, be careful as you are treading in HIS TERRITORY. If He desires, then OM TAT SAT shall be spoken from your lips. This is the difference between a Jyotisha and a Daivagya. OM TAT SAT With Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - " Visti Larsen " <vlarsen <varahamihira > Thursday, January 11, 2001 1:01 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Marriage questions Om Krishna Guru Dear Sanjay, Namaste. " (more than 1year as you say to count as marriage). " Many of my friends have had long relationships that lasted maybe 2 years, however these occured in very young ages(teenage). Do these still count as Marriage? Please elaborate. Best wishes, Visti. - S Prabhakaran varahamihira Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:24 PM [sri Guru] Marriage questions Om gurave namah Om krishna Guru Dear Sanjayji, Friend of mine is already married. He had a love marriage. Seemingly there does not seem any problem in their marriage. He is also expecting a child now. I do not know if he had any long relationship before.(more than 1year as you say to count as marriage). If one sees such problem in a chart can one suggest Kumbha Vivaha when the person is already married?. I also have other questions. I was trying to predict when i would get married and also to explain many other charts for marriage timing. For this 1. can Jupiters aspect on 2nd lord from upapada be considered as marriage giving?. Can you please tell me difference between the second house from upapada and 2nd lord from upapada. 2. Can Upapada be considered from Navamsa. (I do not remember you using Upapada in navamsa in your book). If yes which of the upapada is more marriage indicator. The Rasi one or the Navamsa one. 3. 7th lord from venus indiactes where the spouse comes from. Is it relative to the place of birth of the navive or his or her current residence?. Yours Sincerely, Shishya S.Prabhakaran varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote: > Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha > Dear Sanjay > Marriage is not going to be a bed of roses for sure. Look at the Upapada in Scorpio (Jup in 10 in debility means the Lagna is Mesha and 12th Lord Jup in debility in Capricorn is in 11th from Pisces i.e. Upapada is Scorpio) with Rahu in debility in 2nd from it and Moon in debility in UL.. Kumbha Vivaha is necessary or 1st attachment goes and second may survive depending on Mercury. > With Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > > > - > S Prabhakaran > varahamihira > Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:17 AM > [sri Guru] Re: Girl lost from 9th Dec > > > Om Krishna Guru > Dear Sanjayji, > One my friend has a similar combination. He has Rahu debilitated > in Sagitarius with Mars ,Moon in Debility in 8th and also Jupiter > in debility in 10th. Will it prove dificult from him too?. > > Yours Sicerely > Shishya > Prabhakaran > > Details of friend. > Date of Birth: February 26, 1973 > Time of Birth: 10:50:00 am > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > Longitude of Birth: 72 E 50 (Bombay) > Latitude of Birth: 18 N 58 eGroups Sponsor Click here to . OM TAT SAT Archive: varahamihira Info: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Om Gurave Namah, Shree Ganeshaya Namah, Dear Sanjayji, Pranaam, Very many thanks for answering my questions. I was feeling left out in studies. I'll start keeping notes more now. Till now I used to keep notes of the just calculation details for various parameters and dasas in my excel sheet and not other items as I tend to feel that I can access what I need from the archives of the list/books. I used just read,read and read. > PS: Start fasting on the days of your Upapada and do not jump to conclusions > easily. Study harder and ask questions, make notes. I already fast on Saturdays Sunrise to Sunset everyweek. My mother after consulting an astrologer told me to do so. I suppose it must have been to ensure my father's good health and/or because of saturn's transit on my moon. Should I stop this for thursdays(Upapada lord) or do both?. If it is so I feel i'll continue on saturday. Please advice. I am not perfect with my habits. With your blessings I'll study harder and improve. > > Friend of mine is already married. He had a love marriage. Seemingly > > there does not seem any problem in their marriage. > RATH: Did you check the Lagna of the spouse? SPRABHAK: The Lagna of the spouse is Sagittarrius which is 7th from the 8th of upapada. So this could mean that she is the 2nd. this explains. This marriage could be better as second from 8th of upapada is aspected by Sun and Venus. In such cases If a native asks for remedy should we suggest fasting on the lord of 8th from the Upapada (2nd marriage) or Lord of upapada itself. I think it should be Lord of Upapada as all subsequent marriages are derived from the this. am I right? Yours sincerely shishya S.Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna Om Krishna Guru Hi Sanjayji, You told that the aspect of the jupiter on the second house from UL could bring marraige to a native. 1) Is full aspect of Guru taken for this or also the 5th and 9th aspect can be taken, Please clarify. 2) Also Is this the only method to delianate marraige. 3) What is the significance of marraiges which had not taken place in such a periods. Thanks -Siva varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Prabhakaran, > Answrs/comments below > > - > " S Prabhakaran " <SanjayPrabhakaran@N...> > <varahamihira > > Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:24 PM > [sri Guru] Marriage questions > > > > Om gurave namah > > Om krishna Guru > > > > Dear Sanjayji, > > Friend of mine is already married. He had a love marriage. Seemingly > > there does not seem any problem in their marriage. He is also > > expecting a child now. I do not know if he had any long > > relationship before.(more than 1year as you say to count > > as marriage). > RATH: Did you check the Lagna of the spouse? > > > If one sees such problem in a chart can one > > suggest Kumbha Vivaha when the person is already married?. > RATH:Why Kumbha Vivaha after marriage? No, fasting on Upapada days is > sufficient. > > > I also have other questions. > > I was trying to predict when i would get married and also > > to explain many other charts for marriage timing. For this > > 1. can Jupiters aspect on 2nd lord from upapada be considered > > as marriage giving?. Can you please tell me difference between > > the second house from upapada and 2nd lord from upapada. > RATH YES Guru's aspect on the second from UL, especially in transit gives > marriage. > > > 2. Can Upapada be considered from Navamsa. (I do not remember > > you using Upapada in navamsa in your book). If yes which > > of the upapada is more marriage indicator. The Rasi one or > > the Navamsa one. > Rath: Yes, for timing marriage in Varga (Navamsa) Narayana Dasa. Marriage > occurs when the Narayana sub-peiod aspects the Upapada (invariably). > > > 3. 7th lord from venus indiactes where the spouse comes from. > > Is it relative to the place of birth of the navive or his or > > her current residence?. > RATH: Current in todays context. > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > Shishya > > S.Prabhakaran > blessings to my 'Mita " > Sanjay Rath > PS: Start fasting on the days of your Upapada and do not jump to conclusions > easily. Study harder and ask questions, make notes. > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote: > > > Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha > > > Dear Sanjay > > > Marriage is not going to be a bed of roses for sure. Look at the > > Upapada in Scorpio (Jup in 10 in debility means the Lagna is Mesha > > and 12th Lord Jup in debility in Capricorn is in 11th from Pisces > > i.e. Upapada is Scorpio) with Rahu in debility in 2nd from it and > > Moon in debility in UL.. Kumbha Vivaha is necessary or 1st attachment > > goes and second may survive depending on Mercury. > > > With Best Wishes > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > S Prabhakaran > > > varahamihira > > > Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:17 AM > > > [sri Guru] Re: Girl lost from 9th Dec > > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > Dear Sanjayji, > > > One my friend has a similar combination. He has Rahu debilitated > > > in Sagitarius with Mars ,Moon in Debility in 8th and also > > Jupiter > > > in debility in 10th. Will it prove dificult from him too?. > > > > > > Yours Sicerely > > > Shishya > > > Prabhakaran > > > > > > Details of friend. > > > Date of Birth: February 26, 1973 > > > Time of Birth: 10:50:00 am > > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > > > Longitude of Birth: 72 E 50 (Bombay) > > > Latitude of Birth: 18 N 58 > > > > > > > > OM TAT SAT > > Archive: varahamihira > > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 Jaya Jagannath Dear Prabhakaran, Answrs/comments below - " S Prabhakaran " <SanjayPrabhakaran <varahamihira > Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:24 PM [sri Guru] Marriage questions > Om gurave namah > Om krishna Guru > > Dear Sanjayji, > Friend of mine is already married. He had a love marriage. Seemingly > there does not seem any problem in their marriage. He is also > expecting a child now. I do not know if he had any long > relationship before.(more than 1year as you say to count > as marriage). RATH: Did you check the Lagna of the spouse? > If one sees such problem in a chart can one > suggest Kumbha Vivaha when the person is already married?. RATH:Why Kumbha Vivaha after marriage? No, fasting on Upapada days is sufficient. > I also have other questions. > I was trying to predict when i would get married and also > to explain many other charts for marriage timing. For this > 1. can Jupiters aspect on 2nd lord from upapada be considered > as marriage giving?. Can you please tell me difference between > the second house from upapada and 2nd lord from upapada. RATH YES Guru's aspect on the second from UL, especially in transit gives marriage. > 2. Can Upapada be considered from Navamsa. (I do not remember > you using Upapada in navamsa in your book). If yes which > of the upapada is more marriage indicator. The Rasi one or > the Navamsa one. Rath: Yes, for timing marriage in Varga (Navamsa) Narayana Dasa. Marriage occurs when the Narayana sub-peiod aspects the Upapada (invariably). > 3. 7th lord from venus indiactes where the spouse comes from. > Is it relative to the place of birth of the navive or his or > her current residence?. RATH: Current in todays context. > > Yours Sincerely, > Shishya > S.Prabhakaran blessings to my 'Mita " Sanjay Rath PS: Start fasting on the days of your Upapada and do not jump to conclusions easily. Study harder and ask questions, make notes. > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <srath@v...> wrote: > > Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha > > Dear Sanjay > > Marriage is not going to be a bed of roses for sure. Look at the > Upapada in Scorpio (Jup in 10 in debility means the Lagna is Mesha > and 12th Lord Jup in debility in Capricorn is in 11th from Pisces > i.e. Upapada is Scorpio) with Rahu in debility in 2nd from it and > Moon in debility in UL.. Kumbha Vivaha is necessary or 1st attachment > goes and second may survive depending on Mercury. > > With Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > - > > S Prabhakaran > > varahamihira > > Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:17 AM > > [sri Guru] Re: Girl lost from 9th Dec > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Dear Sanjayji, > > One my friend has a similar combination. He has Rahu debilitated > > in Sagitarius with Mars ,Moon in Debility in 8th and also > Jupiter > > in debility in 10th. Will it prove dificult from him too?. > > > > Yours Sicerely > > Shishya > > Prabhakaran > > > > Details of friend. > > Date of Birth: February 26, 1973 > > Time of Birth: 10:50:00 am > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT > > Longitude of Birth: 72 E 50 (Bombay) > > Latitude of Birth: 18 N 58 > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.