Fw: Dhi Shakti from 5th house

January 11, 2001

Om Hrim Hamsa Soham SwahaDear Jyotisha,

I was replying to this soetime back when I read a letter from Lakshmi Devi and realsied that I had done something very wrong to discuss this in public. The answers are incomplete and am sending this only for your reading if interested. Have no doubt that the great Srila was born in Dhanus Lagna Vargottama..so straight forward so true..I also removed all other e-groups etc from the addresses.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Syamasundara wrote:> Ramadayalu in his Sanketanidhi quotes Lomasa Rsi:> "When the lord of the 12th house occupies the 2nd or the 8th, the natives> devotion to Lord Krsna will be immense. He will be endowed with all good> qualities and will speak kindly. He will be charitably disposed."> Sanketanidhi 6.98>> In this case Guru is lord of 12th in the 8th a great Yoga for making a great> vaisnava.

GURU AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH WITH THE NINTH LORD AND AS THE COMBINATION OF THE 4TH AND NINTH LORD GIVES GREAT RAJYOGA AS WELL AS THE GREATEST YOGA FOR BEING A VAISHNAVA ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NINTH HOUSE IS VISHNU STHANA.

>> Dhi shakti will also be there by having Ninth lord in 9th and having 4th> lord in 5th with Ucha Moon.MARS IN THE FIFTH MAKES ONE RASH AND SHORT TEMPERED BUT INTELLIGENT. POPULARITY WITH THE MOON THERE IS OK, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN WITH THE FIFTH LORD IN DEBILITY WITHOUT NEECHABHANGA BUT FOR THE EXALTATION OF MERCURY. BHAKTI IS ALSO TO BE SEEN FROM THIS HOUSE.> Candra-Mangala Yoga in the Fifth>> In the 5th house we find Mars (Mangala), lord of the 4th and 11th, and> exalted Moon (Candra), lord of the 7th. This is a powerful Raja Yoga as well

> as Candra-Managala Yoga in a benefic trinal house.

WHY SHOULD THE COMBINATION OF THE 4TH LORD AND 7TH LORD BE A RAJYOGA? AT BEST THIS CAN TRANSLATE TO A DHANYOGA BECAUSE OF THE 11TH LORDSHIP OF THE MARS. NORMALLY THIS SHOWS THE WIRSHIP OF RUDRA AND BEING IN THE FIFTH HOUSE IT WILL GIVE THAT SORT OF AN INCLINATION. MARS AS THE FIFTH LORD IN SIXTH GIVES A DIFFICULT SON. PERHAPS I READ SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

On the exoteric level> this (along with Saturn in debilitation in Navamsa) caused some difficulty> in marriage as Mars is conjoined the 7th lord of wife. Prabhupada's wife,> though a devotee, seems to have been rather puffed-up and quite> un-cooperative, reminiscient of Rakshakambal the wife of Ramanujacarya.

THE SEVENTH LORD IN FIFTH HOUSE WILL MAKE A PERSON LOVE (FIFTH HOUSE) ONES WIFE (SEVENTH LORD) AND THE QUESTION OF SEPARATION WOULD NOT HAVE ARISEN. MERELY MARS CONJOINING THE SEVENTH LORD IS NOT REASON ENOUGH TO GIVE A DIFFICULT SPOUSE ESPECIALLY WHEN IN YOUR ABOVE DISCUSSION YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT YOGA, THEN THIS GREAT YOGA SHOULD BE COMING DUE TO WIFE. AND THE SASI-MANGALA YOGA SHALL BECOME VERY FRUITFUL DUE TO SPOUSE. ACTUALLY THE REVERSE IS TRUE AND HENCE THIS YOGA CANNOT BEIN THE FIFTH HOUSE.> While Prabhupada wanted to preach and have pravacana she would prefer to> have tea parties. Indeed the last straw that caused him to leave his family> for good was when his wife Radharani traded his copy of the beloved> Srimad-Bhagavatam for tea biscuits! There was also a lot of disappointment> and misunderstanding regarding children as 5th represents putra-son (see> also 5th lord Venus in debilitated in Virgo).

MERE DEBILITY OF VENUS CANNOT CAUSE MISUNDERSTANDING WITH CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY IN THE NINTH HOUSE AND WITH MERCURY IN EXALTATION. FURTHER VENUS IN THE NINTH MAKES ONE VERY FORTUNATE AND LUCK COMES AFTER MARRIAGE DUE TO SPOUSE. THIS POSITION OF VENUS SEEMS TO CONTRADICT REAL LIFE AS THE REAL GREAT ACHIEVEMENT OF SRILA OCCURED AFTER HE LEFT HIS WIFE AND NOT VICE VERSA.

Hari Sauri Prabhu tells me> that Srila Prabhupada's oldest son seems to have been a bit retarded and one> day wandered off, got lost and never returned. His second son Mathura Mohana> was very intelligent and this was even commented on by Bhaktisiddhanta whom> he met. But as he became older he became inimical especially after> Prabhupada took sannyasa. He became a Naxalite (radical, atheistic> communist) and later vainly attempted to sue ISKCON after the death of his> father.CHILDREN GOING INIMICAL IS AN IMPORTANT OBSERVATION. WITH THE FIFTH LORD IN THE NINTH HOUSE WITH THE NINTH LORD A PERSON IS VERY FORTUNATE WITH REGARD TO PROGENY. AT LEAST ONE SON IS VERY CAPABLE AND ENDEARS HIMSELF TO THE NATIVE. THIS IS QUITE INCONTRADICTION TO REAL LIFE.

WITH DHANUS LAGNA, THE FIFTH LORD MARS IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE SHOWING THAT SONS (FIFTH LORS) WILL BECOME INIMICAL (SIXTH HOUSE). SECONDLY, THE EIGHTH LORD MOON CONJOINS THE FIFTH LORD SHOWING THAT ONE CHILD MAY HAVE MIND RELATED PROBLEMS (MOON, 8TH HOUSE-DISEASE). WITH THE FIFTH LORD IN THE SIXTH HOUSE, THE CHILDREN WILL BECOME VERY INIMICAL. THIS ENTIRE FACT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE SASI-MANGALA YOGA IN THE SIXTH HOUSE.

> On the esoteric level his 5th house is a block-buster. Mars as 4th and 11th> lord in the 5th with exalted 7th lord Moon gives a brilliant mind-one> possessing both razor sharp logic (Mars) as well as highly developed> intuition (Moon)-a real spiritual genius.

MARS IS STILL THE FIFTH LORD AND WILL GIVE A RAZOR SHARP INTELLECT AND IS CONJOINED THE MOON TO GIVE A VERY RECEPTIVE MIND CAPABLE OF QUICK REACTIONS. INTUITION IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY JUPITER IN THE TRINES. HOWEVER, COMPARATIVELY, CAPRICORN IS A DUD COMPARED TO THE BRILLIANCE OF SAGITTARIUS.

His talks and writings displayed> his keen ability to analyze the faults of various opposing philosophies and> demolish them-especially the sunya-vada, nirvisesa-vada, and communist> philosophies which are very prevalent today.

SUCH A FIERY PERSONALITY CAN ONLY BE THAT OF SAGITTARIUS. CAPRICORN IS TOO EARTHY TO REACT TO SUCH PHILOSOPHIES SO STRONGLY. IT IS ONLY DHANUS WHO CAN BE SO STRAIGHT FORWARD AND SUCH A GREAT BELIEVER.

> This 5th house combination gave real powers of intuition and combined with> the Viparita Raja Yoga in the 8th house and Raja Yoga in the 9th house> indicates Srila Prabhupada's mystic ability. So many devotees have stated> that on numerous occasions Srila Prabhupada would literally read their minds> to their discomfiture and expose their maya.HOW DO RAJYOGA GIVE MYSTIC ABILITY AND WHERE IS IT MENTIONED THAT VIPAREETA RAJYOGA GIVES MYSTIC POWERS? ABILITY TO FORECAST, TO SEE THE FUTURE AND HAVE SUCH A GREAT VISION ARE THOSE OF BRIHASPATI ALONE. WITH DHANUS LAGNA, HIS MAIN STAR IS THE GREAT JUPITER. CONJOINING KETU IT GIVES MYSTIC ABILITY AND WITH THE SUN IT GIVES THE POWER TO SEE WHERE OTHERS FAIL..THE POWER OF INNER SIGHT.

> 5th & 9th are houses of purvapunya-pious actions from past lives. Their> conditions in Prabhupada's chart indicate that whatever his previous life> may have been, he was certainly a most highly pious and pure soul. In this> life he was surely a Siddha and he displayed it by his thoughts, words, and> deeds.I AGREE . MORE TRUE FOR DHANUS LAGNA WITH MOKSH KARAK KETU AND 12TH LORD WITH LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH HOUSE OF DHARMA WITH THE NINTH LORD AND SIGNIFICATOR FOR DHARMA THE SUN.

HOWEVER THE AFFLICTION TO THE FIFTH LORD LED TO THE LOSS/WANDERING AWAY OF THE SUN AND ITS ILL PLACEMENT IN THE SIXTH HOUSE GAVE THE ENEMITY OF THE SECOND SON. CALL THIS PRARABDHA AS WELL. THIS ALSO INDICATES SOME OF HIS DISCIPLES WHO WILL WANDER AWAY AND OTHERS WHO WILL BECOME INIMICAL AND FRAME COURT CASES...(PERHAPS HAPPENING NOW).> 5th is also the house of mantri and mantra. One who gives advice and> initiation. Srila Prabhupada rose to great heights because of his spiritual> wisdom and ability to expertly guide his students and the world. His books> have been published in scores of languages and printed in the hundreds of> millions-he is a real Jagad Guru not just in name but in fact. The 5th also> indicates prajna-completely expanded intelligence and especially the ability> to foresee what shall happen in the future. Just like a great Rsi of past> times Srila Prabhupada could see the future of human society and out of> kindness he gave us a vast ocean of Spiritual knowledge to offset the coming> difficulties. On a more personal level Srila Prabhupada was a self-realized> soul and was actually living the inner life and was seeing through spiritual> eyes all around him-cutting through the dullness of matter into the essence> of spiritual life. This 5th house condition along with the 8th indicated> that Srila Prabhupada was able to personally see Lord Krsna and other> spiritual personalities face to face because of his spiritual vision.VISION IS FROM THE SUN AND THE SECOND (AND TENTH HOUSES). yOUR STATEMENT IS EASILY EXPLAINED AS FOLLOWS: You wrote: "Srila Prabhupada (Lagna Lord Jupiter) was able to personally see (conjoins the significator of sight the Sun) Lord Krsna (Sun is also the ninth Lord in the ninth house) and other spiritual personalities (The thousand maharishis and saints ride the chariot of the Sun, conjoins Ketu showing such spiritualists and sadhu's) face to face because of his spiritual vision.

> Finally the 5th indicates Prabhutva-administrative ability, aristocratic> position, honor and respect etc. This along with Saturn in the 10th> indicates his great status and ability to build and maintain a durable> spiritual organization.KINDLY EXPLAIN SATURN IN 10TH. I THINK SATURN WAS IN GEMINI IN THE SIXTH HOUSE. SAGITTARIUS LAGNA IS A BORN ADMINISTRATOR AND A KING HAVING A REGAL BEARING, AND VERY GREAT LEVEL OF PERSONAL MAGNETISM. IN COMPARISION, MAKARA IS A SERVANT, RATHER REPUSIVE AND LIVES IN ISOLATION.

> >From this 5th house Mars and Moon aspect the 11th and 12th (Moon doesn't> directly aspect but his influence is transferred by Mars). This indicates> the huge financial success that his mission achieved especially in foreign> lands.

And that this money was only to be used for spiritual not material> purposes. The 11th also shows that Srila Prabhupada met and spoke to many> dignitaries, political and religious leaders all over the world during his> life.> >From Transcendental Hoproscope of Srila Prabhupada by Shyamasundara Dasa>> > Before going into timing events, my request to all was to try to> > understand Srila Prabhupada, his greatness, his unflinching devotion and> > try to satisfy oneself as to whether the chart in front can explain the> > real Srila. Nothing else to add to this most august gathering,> > Yours humbly,> > Sanjay Rath>>> We wonder how many charts of spiritualists you have studied? 10, 20, 30,> 100? I have studied 100's I have about 1000 in my data base. I had too study> them. For many years practically all my clients were residents of ashramas,> very few were non-devotees. I began to see very clear patterns as to what> makes a devotee and what doesn't. Auspicious combinations in the 8th house> is very important for making a real bhakta. That is why I was satisfied that> what I saw before was a classical example of a pure devotee with a powerful> 8th house. Not only that but I can look at a chart and determine if this> person has strong devotional qualities or not and capacity for surrender.> Such capacity for surrender comes from the 12th house especially. Diving> deep into it comes from the 8th. This only holds true if other positive> combinations exist especially involving 5th/9th and Lagna. But 5th/9th> strong without 8th/12th make only a pious man, a scholar seldom a true> bhakta.>>> Shyama

January 12, 2001

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Gurudeva,

Pranaams.

Om Hrim Hamsa Soham SwahaDear Jyotisha,

I was replying to this soetime back when I read a letter from Lakshmi Devi and realsied that I had done something very wrong to discuss this in public. The answers are incomplete and am sending this only for your reading if interested. Have no doubt that the great Srila was born in Dhanus Lagna Vargottama..so straight forward so true..I also removed all other e-groups etc from the addresses.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

I'm completely convinced about Dhanus Lagna after reading this letter by You.

A few comments below:

WHY SHOULD THE COMBINATION OF THE 4TH LORD AND 7TH LORD BE A RAJYOGA? AT BEST THIS CAN TRANSLATE TO A DHANYOGA BECAUSE OF THE 11TH LORDSHIP OF THE MARS. NORMALLY THIS SHOWS THE WIRSHIP OF RUDRA AND BEING IN THE FIFTH HOUSE IT WILL GIVE THAT SORT OF AN INCLINATION. MARS AS THE FIFTH LORD IN SIXTH GIVES A DIFFICULT SON. PERHAPS I READ SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

Yes, the first son wandered off and died in insanity, and another became a Naxalite.

KINDLY EXPLAIN SATURN IN 10TH. I THINK SATURN WAS IN GEMINI IN THE SIXTH HOUSE. SAGITTARIUS LAGNA IS A BORN ADMINISTRATOR AND A KING HAVING A REGAL BEARING, AND VERY GREAT LEVEL OF PERSONAL MAGNETISM. IN COMPARISION, MAKARA IS A SERVANT, RATHER REPUSIVE AND LIVES IN ISOLATION.

Saturn is in Libra in Srila Prabhupada's chart, not in Gemini. You also gave it like this in COVA and VRA.

Your shishya,

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