Prarabdha karma and Jyotish

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Patraka Prabhu,

 

Libra Lagna make good Jyotisha as their 11th Lord is the natural AK. They

are very good at balancing the plus and minus and giving a balanced decision

on the net effect.

Best Wishes

Sanjay

 

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Robert A. Koch <rkoch

<varahamihira >

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:46 PM

[sri Guru] Prarabdha karma and Jyotish

 

 

> Jaya Jagannatha!

>

> The following is an instructive dialogue between myself, and sisya

> Janardana dasa, that I wished to share with the Varahamihira list:

>

> > Hare Krsna Janardana dasa,

>

> > At 09:44 PM 12/25/00 +1300, you wrote:

>

> >Haribol,

> >

> >Thanks for your reply to my queries in the last email.

>

> You are welcome!

>

> >Is it any more difficult to predict events in the lives of devotees,

> >knowing that they might have changed their karma by chanting/ doing

service

> >etc? The natal chart shows Prarabdha karma whilst the prasna chart can

show

> >the current karma. How do you reconcile the two?

>

> While it is true that the natal chart shows Prarabdha karma, still the

> Prashna chart is dependent on Prarabdha karma also. This is why it is

> important to keep the natal chart and potentials in mind when doing a

> Prashna chart, as the Phala seen therein is dependent on the natal

> chart. For example, if in the natal chart, poverty or and austere life is

> shown, such would not be modified too much if great wealth were indicated

> in Prashna chart.

>

> With regard to devotee's lives, yes, the sting of inauspicious karmas

shown

> in the chart, will be modified to a certain degree by his pious

> activities. This is guaranteed in the shastras, which state that simply

by

> clapping one's hands (Bhaktivinode Thakura said this) in front of the

> temple Deities, millions of karmas will fly away like birds. So this has

> to be taken into account when studying devotees charts, yet it is

> impossible to know how, and to what extent, Krsna will grant His

> Mercy. For the most part, even in the charts of devotees, you will see

the

> challenging dasas issue corresponding Phala (fruits of karmas), as well as

> in good dasas. In my case, for example, the Vimsottari dasa/bhukti of

> Mercury/Saturn was just fantastic for practising and teaching Jyotish, and

> acquiring much popularity and reputation for it, as they respectively rule

> the 9th and 5th houses of my chart, and are in strong sign/houses as well

> as varga locations. During the dasa of Ketu/Venus, on the other hand, I

> could not escape bad karmas coming forth (Ketu being with 6th lord

Jupiter,

> and Venus, lagna lord being combust and weak), and thus I sustained

serious

> bodily injury during that time and had to have surgery. So even though I

> had served reverentially for many years as Krsna bhakta, I still had to

> sustain the results of my dasa Phala. Perhaps it would have been way

worse

> otherwise, but that's impossible to know with certainty.

>

> >I was thinking about jyotish and how it is almost perfect in the hands of

> >an experienced, knowledgable & spiritually inclined jyotish. Is it

> >reasonable to think that the science of jyotish is perfect but the

> >application of it depends on the jyotish?

>

> Absolutely. Its like a well-made car: How well it maneuvers and operates,

> depends largely on the skills of the driver. And so also it is with

> Jyotish, which requires many years of serious study and application,

before

> one can become expert. Still, even the most advanced and expert Jyotishis

> will fail now and then, as the future in totality is known only to

Bhagavan

> Sri Krsna. Fallible human beings can only know so much, according to

their

> study and dedication. Even then, only Krsna gives knowledge to the heart

> and consciousness of a conditioned soul, as stated in the Gita: " matah

> smrtir jnanam apohanam ca " , or " from Me come remembrance, knowledge, and

> forgetfulness " . So that is why sadhana, and pure habits, and above all,

> compassion for all living beings, are the criteria by which the secrets of

> Jyotish, and its proper application, shall be reveled, and not otherwise.

>

> >I have chara atmakarka (sun) related to 11th/8th Lord (Budha) by

> >conjunction in Vrischika lagna. Pt Sanjay Rath says that it's one of the

> >indications of interest in jyotish: chara atmakaraka linked with 11th

house

> >in some way. Also Guru in trines in Navamsa also shows indications. Other

> >than that what does it really mean to have AK and 8th/11th Lord related

in

> >lagna? In your case, I observe that the AK (mars) has no link to the 11th

> >house except the Navamsa connection by aspect. Is the navamsa connection

> >equally valid?

>

> The 2nd is the house of learning, and so the 11th, being 10th from the

2nd,

> shows how learning can be applied occupationally. Also, the 11th is the

> 3rd from the 9th, the third being related to specific talents, and the

9th,

> higher or Sattvic knowledge. The 8th is the house of the metaphysical

> sciences, including Jyotish. Atmakaraka, of course, is related to the

life

> mission and soul's path, and so being in mutual aspect/conjunction with

the

> 11th or 8th houses or lord, can indicate an astrologer. Of course, that

> alone is not enough. See the strong relations (if they exist) between

> Jupiter and the 2nd, as well as trinal houses, in both rasi, and Navamsa,

> Dasamsa, and Siddhamsa (D-24) charts. Naturally, Jupiter in 10th or 11th

> in any of these charts, confirms the native as a practising

> astrologer. Look too for Rahu's influence on any of these houses/charts,

> as well as conjunctions of Ketu with either Mercury or Jupiter. Ketu

> conjunction with the Sun or Atmakaraka, can also indicate the mind of an

> astrologer. Rahu, however, should not be in conjunction of Jupiter or

> Mercury, but preferably should be alone and aspecting the above houses

> (unless, of course, Rahu is the AK). Ketu, preferably, should be with

> Mercury or Jupiter.

>

> Haribol,

> Patraka

>

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