Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I also thought for Dhanur lagna, Mars and Sun are yogakarakas, along with Jupiter. And Jupiter is a friend of Mars and Sun..... sohamsa , leoncio barros <leonclarobr> wrote: > Dear Zoran > > Thank you very much for the nice explanation. Please, if possible, see some of my question below (basics). > > >This indicates that your 10th house in the chart is on fire. > question1: That is true because i have passed some periods of fire in 10th house matters (job, workplace). So would it be better not to have Mars in 10th? For instance, another person has a similar combination (pisces lagna, Guru in 5th exalted, Rahu in 10th), although without the vijaya yoga, but Mars is conjuct Ketu,instead (this is not good either). > > question2: what should be the effect of Rahu first in 10th alone as this person i have metioned and second conjunt Mars as my case? I mean how Rahu actuates here in both cases in 10th house matter conjuct Mars and alone? By bad companies, accidents, maquinations, laziness, enemies? > > >Luckily Mangal (devotion-the symbol of Shri Hanuman-bhakti) will win over the neecha Rahu, > > question3- I have a certain difficulty to understand Mars energy, because Mars, according to texts, is a tamasic graha. Although for Pisces lagna, Mars rule the 9th.Shoudnt it be better to make Hanuman stronger than Mars? > > question4:You have written that luckily Guru, my LL,hates both grahas in 10th because of the relationship 6/8 between 10th and 5th. Guru is normally a friend of Mars: so please explain if it is adequate for me the practice of mantras to Mars considering this relatinship 6/8 with Guru? > > > but there would in times be terrible flame in the house. > > That has happende really and because of this i have asked you above if would be better not to have the Vijaya yoga in 10th. > > >Mars dasha is giving the effects of Rahu, which is not good, particularly being in 2nd from Arudha lagna. > > question 5: what should be these effects? > > question 6: If Mars energy may be transmuted than perhaps neecha Rahu energy in 10th may be transmuted too and possible i may use convenientment Mars period (that gives the effect of Rahu). Is this correct? > > >Make Mars stronger > question7 I understand that there are many ways to make Mars stronger like by mantras, coral rock, and including certain martian activities in my life as sports, food a bit more hot, actuating in Engineering field perhaps reserch. Is this correct? > > Thank you very much indeed for you guidance > > Leoncio > ================================================= > > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> escreveu: > Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha, > Dear Leoncio, > > Thanks for the explanation. In my case, dhanu ( related to > > dharma) is 10th house and the warrior Mars is there conjunct the > > adharmic graha Rahu, forming a Vijaya Yoga. Jupiter is in 5th > > exalted. But the 10th house is second from the AL in 9th ( a dharma > > place too). Seems like the 10th resambles really kuruksetra, isn`t > > it? I fiery sign sign with a fiery graha conjunct a tamasic node. > It is VIjaya Yoga, and I hope you understand its implications. When > Shri Hanuman (Mangal) went to kill Ravana (Rahu), he finally did it, > but the whole Lanka was set on fire. This indicates that your 10th > house in the chart is on fire. Luckily Mangal (devotion-the symbol of > Shri Hanuman-bhakti) will win over the neecha Rahu, but there would in > times be terrible flame in the house. Guru luckily hates both grahas, > since according to Pachakadi Sambhanda they are in 6th from it. Mars > dasha is giving the effects of Rahu, which is not good, particularly > being in 2nd from Arudha lagna.Rahu dasha will end the strife, since > Rahu will give the results of Mars. Make Mars stronger > Best wishes > Zoran > > > > > > Please, could you help me to understand better these > > combinations. In reality, i am living Mars dasa and after some years > > from now will come the long Rahu period. I am sure this period of > > today and my decision are very important because i have a certain > > liberty after some " batles " that i have won ( dhanu seem to enjoy > > liberty! ); increasing my responsability. Now, i am with a dharmic > > question in my life: what should i do because i have just retired. > > Is there some practice and mantra to help me in this regard? > > > > Thank you very much indeed > > > > Leoncio > > ================================= > > > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> escreveu: > > Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha, > > Dear Laksmi > >> Please don't " ji " me, because I have learnt from you > >> and am your sishya in astro-knowledge and experience. > > Oh, its a sign of respect, not only for your knowledge, but I do > > personally like you very much. > > >> Now, coming to the topic on hand, I agree with you > >> that Dhanus is a saattwik sign, (i better agree, > >> seeing that its our common ascendant:--))) but still > >> it is a fire sign and fire is rajo guni. Dhanus > >> represents battle grounds, military camps etc and > >> that's hardly saattwik, isn't it? Infact this > >> description makes Dhanus sound more like a house of > >> Mars, the war lord, than that of jupiter! > > I agree with the fact that Dhanush is a fiery sign, but it is the > > highest form of Agni tatva. There are two aspects of Agni tatva, one > > is fire and another is light. It has not to do with the war in real > > sense, but it is the war for dharma, as beautifully explained in > > Bhagavad Gita, where Kurukshetra is the field -Kshetra of Karma- Kuru. > > Thus, dhanu indicates the moral fight for dharma, where the main > > massage tells us that we cannot stay away from this karma, but perform > > the right activities. And what is the right activity? That is why > > Arjuna is confused. However, Shri Krishna tells him: " Nistrai Guna > > bhava Arjuna " - Be without the three gunas, transcend this field of > > karma- Be your SELF- ATMAN, that is the true message. So I would not > > assign sign dhanu with war in this low sense. > > > >> Dhanus is a sign where jupiter is in " avarohana " , > >> i.e., heading towards debility, while mars is in > >> " aarohana " , heading towards exaltation. > > Very Good point indeed. Mars in exaltation is MahaPurusha, however In > > dhanu, Mars is just to enter exaltation Uchchbhilashi,indicating that > > his attitude is calm, before the battle, a true warriour has to be > > perfectly calm and composed, like a steel, not a raw iron. For that > > reason Mars rules Sama Veda, where Sama indicates balance, composed. > > After performing his dharma, a Guru becomes weak, a new cycle is > > beginning, that is why fiery signs indicate Sat Yuga. > > > >> Dhanus is not > >> a pure sattwik / passive sign like pisces, it is a > >> kshatriya / martian sign..Parasara says so. Dhanus is > >> a sign of attachment to " action " based on one's > >> " dharma " . And, all action / attachment to action is > >> rajasik in nature, according to Sri Krishna.I know > >> that you will not think that I am showing off when I > >> quote from scriptures...you know the scriptures and me > >> too well to think that! > > No, On the contrary, I appriciate that, I know you well, to think that > > you are showing off. No please, go on. I personally beleive that that > > dhanu does not show attachment to action and that Shri Krishna does > > not advise that. He advises: " Nistrai Guna Bhava ARjuna " be without > > tri gunas. I personally beleiva that the more we concur rajas, the > > more satva will come. Dhanu is natural 9th house of the Kaal Purush, > > and is the place of Isha -God, It is the guiding principle of our > > birth. I cannot assign rajas guna to it. Actually, Chara signs are > > rajas, stira signs are tamas, and dvishabhava sign (dhanu is here) are > > Satva as far as creation is concerned. > > > > >> The term " Vaiswanara " refers to the cosmic fire as > >> also the digestive fire. The manipura chakra lording > >> digestive fire is ruled by Mars. It can also be > >> recalled that the creation of Brahma started from this > >> point...hence this is the begining of creation. > >> Infact, the first veedhi of Vaiswanara nakshatra > >> mandala is called " aja " meaning " unborn " as well as > >> " goat " (mesha?). All this is taken from Vishnupurana > >> and I will give the link below, so if you have missed > >> it earlier, you can go through it now. I would > >> appreciate your comments on it very much. > > >> sohamsa/message/28 > > > I hate myself for not knowing Hindi, othervise I would take a leave > > from here and lock myself into one of yours huge libraries and will > > not leave it for months... I will have to go through it, so we can > > discuss it. > > >> And, Lord krishna says that > > >> Aham vaiswanarobhutwa praninam dehamasritah| > > >> That's the first devolvement of God into creation. > >> and, i hope you are able to see the diagram drawn by > >> me, because Sourav ji had some difficulty there. > >> Infact, what you see there is an approximation of > >> " yoni " ...the seat of creation. > > I will be back after I take more insight into your paperwork from > > Mumbai. You did a great job I remember. So far, I think that you are > > right in seing the Agni in Dhanu. But I beleive that Agni you see > > refers to light not to fire itself. > > Lot of regards and thanks for this nice thread, > > Zoran > > > >> Regards, > >> Lakshmi > > Novo Messenger com voz: ligações, Avatars, novos > > emoticons e muito mais. Instale agora! > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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