RE: [Gajapati] RE: Ratna versus Uparatna, Partha

June 20, 2005

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Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani,

Namaste

Wow, what a

treat! I canâ€™t wait for the notebook from you J I consider both my son

(Partha) and I blessed.

I shall look

up the words I need to and post these off for you.

May you have

a pleasant trip. If Serbia

is anything like Slovenia,

they are pretty well set up for broadband/internet cafes etc.

Hugs to Zoran et al.

Love,

Swee

Gajapati [Gajapati ] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar

Monday, June 20, 2005 10:18

AM

Cc: Gajapati

[Gajapati] RE: [Jaya

Jagannatha] Ratna versus Uparatna, Partha

Shri Brahmadaru

Smarami,

Dear Swee,

I would sure love to

hone my limited knowledge of Sanskrit with you. It is a good learning

experience for me. I am unsure of my internet access in the next month or so.

But from August I should be able to have it once again. And I will surely write

then. Meanwhile I will work on vaidurya and whatever other words you have on

the list. I have one more suggestion for you and Partha for Gajapati. I was

thinking that while I am attending the conferences, I will choose one paper or

one astro principle that was discussed in a day which was interesting and post

it to and Gajapati. Like an astro notebook, and in that way I would

feel that I am carrying all of you with me in the conferences. If there is

nothing interesting I wont write. And of course, internet access withstanding.

If it is ok by you and Partha, I will do it.

Best regards,

Sarbani

On Behalf Of Swee Chan

Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:55

PM

SJCA

[Jaya Jagannatha] Ratna

versus Uparatna - Sanjay ji & Sarbani

Importance: High

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay

ji, Sarbani and those in the know J,

Namaste

On the

discussion on RATNA versus UpaRATNA, letâ€™s refer to GaruÃ²a PurÄÃ«a

Chapter 70, slokas 7-8

I need your

honest opinion and translation especially on sloka 8.

bandhÅ« kaguÃ±jÄsakalendragopajavÄsamÄsá¹›ksamavará¹‡aÅ›obhÄá¸¥|

bhrÄjiá¹£á¹‡avo

dÄá¸imabÄ«javará¹‡ÄstathÄpare kiÅ›ukapuá¹£pabhÄsaá¸¥|70|7

Meaning:

some of the rubies are associated with the earthy red ochre (colour; as in guÃ¯jÄ

berry); vermillion, red lotus, saffron; some have the colour of lÄkÃ±a juice.

Although the re colour has uniformity, the centre has a special manifest

brillliance which makes the ruby self luminous.

à¤¸à¤®à¤¾à¤¨à¤µà¤°à¥à¤£à¤ƒà¥¤

khindurapadmotpalakuá¹…kumÄnÄá¹

lÄká¹£ÄrasasyÄpi samÄnavará¹‡aá¸¥|

sÄá¹dre â€˜pi rÄge prabhayÄ

svayaiva bhÄnti svalaká¹£yÄá¸¥ sphuá¹amadhyaÅ›obhÄá¸¥||70|8

Meaning: Some of these rubies

which appear to be the same as that of the lÄkÃ±Ä hue (in

close proximity) are also endowed with the all good qualities of the ruby that

reflect and refract the rays of the Sun, illuminating all the surrounding

objects.

Sarbani, I will write a list

of which I will require the root words to them. These will help me immensely in

identifying what those gemstones are. Do let me know when you can spare

sometime.

Much appreciated.

Love,

Swee

June 20, 2005

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Shri Brahmadaru Smarami,

Dear Swee and Partha,

Thanks. Last time in Serbia, we did not have much net connection. But in the USA we are all wired up pretty well! London...cyber cafes galore unless we are staying in a modern place where they are broadbanded. Thanks for your good wishes. See all of you in a bit.

Best regards,

Sarbani

On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 20, 2005 3:41 PMGajapati ; Subject: RE: [Gajapati] RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ratna versus Uparatna, Partha

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani,

Namaste

Wow, what a treat! I canâ€™t wait for the notebook from you J I consider both my son (Partha) and I blessed.

I shall look up the words I need to and post these off for you.

May you have a pleasant trip. If Serbia is anything like Slovenia, they are pretty well set up for broadband/internet cafes etc.

Hugs to Zoran et al.

Love,

Swee

Gajapati [Gajapati ] On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarMonday, June 20, 2005 10:18 AM Cc: Gajapati Subject: [Gajapati] RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ratna versus Uparatna, Partha

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami,

Dear Swee,

I would sure love to hone my limited knowledge of Sanskrit with you. It is a good learning experience for me. I am unsure of my internet access in the next month or so. But from August I should be able to have it once again. And I will surely write then. Meanwhile I will work on vaidurya and whatever other words you have on the list. I have one more suggestion for you and Partha for Gajapati. I was thinking that while I am attending the conferences, I will choose one paper or one astro principle that was discussed in a day which was interesting and post it to and Gajapati. Like an astro notebook, and in that way I would feel that I am carrying all of you with me in the conferences. If there is nothing interesting I wont write. And of course, internet access withstanding. If it is ok by you and Partha, I will do it.

Best regards,

Sarbani

On Behalf Of Swee ChanSunday, June 19, 2005 11:55 PMSJCA[Jaya Jagannatha] Ratna versus Uparatna - Sanjay ji & SarbaniImportance: High

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay ji, Sarbani and those in the know J,

Namaste

On the discussion on RATNA versus UpaRATNA, letâ€™s refer to GaruÃ²a PurÄÃ«a Chapter 70, slokas 7-8

I need your honest opinion and translation especially on sloka 8.

bandhÅ« kaguÃ±jÄsakalendragopajavÄsamÄsá¹›ksamavará¹‡aÅ›obhÄá¸¥|

bhrÄjiá¹£á¹‡avo dÄá¸imabÄ«javará¹‡ÄstathÄpare kiÅ›ukapuá¹£pabhÄsaá¸¥|70|7

Meaning: some of the rubies are associated with the earthy red ochre (colour; as in guÃ¯jÄ berry); vermillion, red lotus, saffron; some have the colour of lÄkÃ±a juice. Although the re colour has uniformity, the centre has a special manifest brillliance which makes the ruby self luminous.

khindurapadmotpalakuá¹…kumÄnÄá¹ lÄká¹£ÄrasasyÄpi samÄnavará¹‡aá¸¥|

sÄá¹dre â€˜pi rÄge prabhayÄ svayaiva bhÄnti svalaká¹£yÄá¸¥ sphuá¹amadhyaÅ›obhÄá¸¥||70|8

Meaning: Some of these rubies which appear to be the same as that of the lÄkÃ±Ä hue (in close proximity) are also endowed with the all good qualities of the ruby that reflect and refract the rays of the Sun, illuminating all the surrounding objects.

Sarbani, I will write a list of which I will require the root words to them. These will help me immensely in identifying what those gemstones are. Do let me know when you can spare sometime.

Much appreciated.

Love,

Swee