Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pranam Sanjay, I have a doubt regarding lession #8. I was trying to calculate visottari for me: Birth Data: 7.34 a.m (IST) (5.30 hours ahead of GMT), September 26,1974, 81E15, 16 N 12 Kethu Saturn (Jupiter) Rasi Moon GL Venus Rahu Ascendant Mercury HL Sun Mars Determining of Starting Dasa: Lagna nakshatra: chitra Janma nakshatra: uttaraa shada (21) in Capricorn. Utpanna nakshatra: 5th from janma nakshatra: Poorvadbadra (25) in Aquarious. Poorvabhadra extends to two Rasis. Namely Aquarious and Pisces. Why did you take it as Aquarious? Why it is not Pisces? For janma nakshatram and Lagna nakshatram you said the sign where Moon/Lagna actually is should be taken. But in case of utpanna nakshatram we may not have any associated planet in that constellation. Taking it as Aquarious, for me, there are 1 planet in quadrants from Moon, 1 planet in quadrants from Lagna and 4 planets from Aquarious. (Even if we take Pisces instead of Aquarious, it is 3 planets in quadrants from Pisces). So, utpanna nakshatra should decide starting dasa. Now let me try bribhagi variation. THRIBHAGI VARIATION: Vimsottari Dasa (started from utpanna star - 5th): Maha Dasas: Jupiter: 1969-07-15 (20:11:55) - 1974-11-14 (19:14:19) (poorva bhadra) Saturn: 1974-11-14 (19:14:19) - 1981-03-16 (00:05:55) (u. bhaa) Mercury: 1981-03-16 (00:05:55) - 1986-11-14 (17:04:43) (Revati) Ketu: 1986-11-14 (17:04:43) - 1989-03-15 (22:39:31) (Aswini) Venus: 1989-03-15 (22:39:31) - 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) (Bharani) Sun: 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) - 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) (Krittika) Moon: 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) - 2001-03-15 (20:29:55) (Rohini) Mars: 2001-03-15 (20:29:55) - 2003-07-16 (02:04:43) (Mriga) Rahu: 2003-07-16 (02:04:43) - 2009-07-15 (12:59:55) (Aadra) Jupiter: 2009-07-15 (12:59:55) - 2014-11-14 (12:02:19) (Punarvasu) Venus MD: 1989-03-15 (22:39:31) - 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) Antardasas in this MD: Venus: 1989-03-15 (22:39:31) - 1990-04-25 (18:27:31) Sun: 1990-04-25 (18:27:31) - 1990-08-25 (12:23:55) Moon: 1990-08-25 (12:23:55) - 1991-03-16 (10:17:55) Mars: 1991-03-16 (10:17:55) - 1991-08-05 (11:13:43) Rahu: 1991-08-05 (11:13:43) - 1992-08-04 (17:02:55) Jupiter: 1992-08-04 (17:02:55) - 1993-06-25 (08:53:19) Saturn: 1993-06-25 (08:53:19) - 1994-07-15 (21:41:55) Mercury: 1994-07-15 (21:41:55) - 1995-06-25 (20:31:43) Ketu: 1995-06-25 (20:31:43) - 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) Sun MD: 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) - 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) Antardasas in this MD: Sun: 1995-11-14 (21:27:31) - 1995-12-21 (10:02:27) Moon: 1995-12-21 (10:02:27) - 1996-02-20 (07:00:39) Mars: 1996-02-20 (07:00:39) - 1996-04-02 (21:41:23) Rahu: 1996-04-02 (21:41:23) - 1996-07-21 (11:26:09) Jupiter: 1996-07-21 (11:26:09) - 1996-10-26 (20:59:16) Saturn: 1996-10-26 (20:59:16) - 1997-02-19 (12:49:51) Mercury: 1997-02-19 (12:49:51) - 1997-06-03 (00:28:47) Ketu: 1997-06-03 (00:28:47) - 1997-07-15 (15:09:31) Venus: 1997-07-15 (15:09:31) - 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) Moon MD: 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) - 2001-03-15 (20:29:55) Antardasas in this MD: Moon: 1997-11-14 (09:05:55) - 1998-02-23 (20:02:55) Mars: 1998-02-23 (20:02:55) - 1998-05-05 (20:30:49) Rahu: 1998-05-05 (20:30:49) - 1998-11-04 (11:25:25) Jupiter: 1998-11-04 (11:25:25) - 1999-04-15 (19:20:37) Saturn: 1999-04-15 (19:20:37) - 1999-10-25 (13:44:55) Mercury: 1999-10-25 (13:44:55) - 2000-04-15 (01:09:49) Ketu: 2000-04-15 (01:09:49) - 2000-06-25 (01:37:43) Venus: 2000-06-25 (01:37:43) - 2001-01-13 (23:31:43) Sun: 2001-01-13 (23:31:43) - 2001-03-15 (20:29:55) NORMAL VARIATION: Vimsottari Dasa (started from utpanna star - 5th): Maha Dasas: Jupiter: 1959-05-14 (15:26:29) - 1975-02-19 (15:26:29) Saturn: 1975-02-19 (15:26:29) - 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) Mercury: 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) - 2010-08-14 (15:26:29) Ketu: 2010-08-14 (15:26:29) - 2017-07-08 (15:26:29) Venus: 2017-07-08 (15:26:29) - 2037-03-25 (15:26:29) Sun: 2037-03-25 (15:26:29) - 2043-02-22 (15:26:29) Moon: 2043-02-22 (15:26:29) - 2052-12-31 (15:26:29) Mars: 2052-12-31 (15:26:29) - 2059-11-25 (15:26:29) Rahu: 2059-11-25 (15:26:29) - 2077-08-22 (15:26:29) Jupiter: 2077-08-22 (15:26:29) - 2093-05-30 (15:26:29) Saturn MD: 1975-02-19 (15:26:29) - 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) Antardasas in this MD: Saturn: 1975-02-19 (15:26:29) - 1978-02-06 (15:26:29) Mercury: 1978-02-06 (15:26:29) - 1980-10-02 (15:26:29) Ketu: 1980-10-02 (15:26:29) - 1981-11-05 (15:26:29) Venus: 1981-11-05 (15:26:29) - 1984-12-19 (15:26:29) Sun: 1984-12-19 (15:26:29) - 1985-11-26 (15:26:29) Moon: 1985-11-26 (15:26:29) - 1987-06-19 (15:26:29) Mars: 1987-06-19 (15:26:29) - 1988-07-22 (15:26:29) Rahu: 1988-07-22 (15:26:29) - 1991-05-14 (15:26:29) Jupiter: 1991-05-14 (15:26:29) - 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) Mercury MD: 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) - 2010-08-14 (15:26:29) Antardasas in this MD: Mercury: 1993-11-11 (15:26:29) - 1996-03-27 (15:26:29) Ketu: 1996-03-27 (15:26:29) - 1997-03-19 (15:26:29) Venus: 1997-03-19 (15:26:29) - 2000-01-03 (15:26:29) Sun: 2000-01-03 (15:26:29) - 2000-11-04 (15:26:29) Moon: 2000-11-04 (15:26:29) - 2002-03-29 (15:26:29) Mars: 2002-03-29 (15:26:29) - 2003-03-21 (15:26:29) Rahu: 2003-03-21 (15:26:29) - 2005-09-24 (15:26:29) Jupiter: 2005-09-24 (15:26:29) - 2007-12-19 (15:26:29) Saturn: 2007-12-19 (15:26:29) - 2010-08-14 (15:26:29) Tribhagi Vimsottari Normal Vimsottari Utpanna Janma Utpanna Janma Went to ISI (studies) August, 1992 Venus-Jupiter Saturn-Saturn Saturn-Jupiter Rahu-Rahu Job offer (from TCS and HCL) Aug 6,1996 and Sep 23, 1996 Sun-Jupiter Saturn-Rahu Mercury-Kethu Rahu-Jupiter Joined in HCL (first and current job) Aug 25,1997 Sun-Venus Saturn-Jupiter Mercury-Venus Rahu-Saturn Marriage March 4,1999 Moon-Jupiter Mercury-Kethu Mercury-Venus Rahu-Saturn Went to US Moon-Mercury Mercury-Venus Mercury-Sun Rahu-Mercury Cameback to India Moon-Mercury Mercury-Sun Mercury-Sun Rahu-Mercury Let me attempt explanations: (I am trying to explain from Tribhagi Utpanna Vimsottari): Bharani is aspected (in Sarvatobhadra chakram) by none. Krittika is aspected (in Sarvatobhadra chakram) by none. Rohini is aspected (in Sarvatobhadra chakram) by Moon in Abhijit and is occupied by Kethu. In D-24, Jupiter owns A4 and 4th house and occupies Lagna. Venus is in 10th house owning 2nd and 9th. Venus also aspects Lagna and A4 and 4th house. Venus and Jupiter are good for education. But, I fail to give good reasoning of why I had a change of placement then (till 10+2 I studied in my native place. Then I went to ISI for higher studies and stayed in Calcutta for 5 years (studying). Then I came to Chennai for Job. Venus is 4th and 10th lord from AL in D-24 and is in 6th. May be a possibly far fetched logic can be Sun owns 12th house in D-24 signifying stay at a gurukul or a institute and Venus is in u.pha (in Rasi) (and also in trine from Sun in D-24). In D-10, Sun is in 11th and also lord of 11th. Jupiter is in 10th house. Jupiter is exalted in D-10 in 10th house and is also aspected by jeevana karaka Saturn and lagna lord Venus. Mercury other benefic is also aspecting Jupiter. So, Sun-Guru gave me job offer. Venus an the other hand, is in 8th house (giving a change in career) and owns A10 and A11 and is in from 10th from Sun. So, it can be explained why I got a offer in Sun-Venus. But this is not quite convincing. For me in both Rasi and Navamsa, Upapada lagnam is occupied by Rahu. In Rasi, Moon aspects UL in 2nd house from 4th house. Moon is 10th lord in D-9. Moon is dara karaka for me. Saturn is lord of UL and also aspects UL along with 7th lord Mars. Mercury is lord of 9th in D-9 and is in 2nd house. Conjunction of Saturn and Mars may have stopped Saturn from giving the result. I can understand why marriage happened in Moon’s dasa. He was dara karaka and aspect UL in Rasi. He is 10th lord in D-9. From paka lagna (from Venus) he is in 4th in D-9. But, I am not getting convincing reasons of why it was in Moon-Jupiter. Why was not it in Moon-Rahu or Moon-Saturn and not Moon-Mars? Moon-Rahu was a better candidate. Rahu is in 2nd from Venus and pakalagna and is with UL and in 4th from Lagna in D-9. He is also in 11th from Moon. About US trip, Moon is in 7th and owns 10th in D-4. Mercury is 9th and 12th lord in Ascendant. So, Mercury is a strong candidate for foreign travel. So, Moon-Mercury make good sence. Regards, Narayana Rao. P.S. I am giving Tribhagi variation from Janma nakshatra here: Tribhagi Variation: Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Maha Dasas: Sun: 1972-10-14 (09:18:13) - 1974-10-14 (20:56:37) Moon: 1974-10-14 (20:56:37) - 1978-02-13 (08:20:37) Mars: 1978-02-13 (08:20:37) - 1980-06-14 (13:55:25) Rahu: 1980-06-14 (13:55:25) - 1986-06-15 (00:50:37) Jupiter: 1986-06-15 (00:50:37) - 1991-10-14 (23:53:01) Saturn: 1991-10-14 (23:53:01) - 1998-02-13 (04:44:37) Mercury: 1998-02-13 (04:44:37) - 2003-10-14 (21:43:25) Ketu: 2003-10-14 (21:43:25) - 2006-02-13 (03:18:13) Venus: 2006-02-13 (03:18:13) - 2012-10-14 (02:06:13) Sun: 2012-10-14 (02:06:13) - 2014-10-14 (13:44:37) Saturn MD: 1991-10-14 (23:53:01) - 1998-02-13 (04:44:37) Antardasas in this MD: Saturn: 1991-10-14 (23:53:01) - 1992-10-15 (06:03:11) Mercury: 1992-10-15 (06:03:11) - 1993-09-07 (22:56:30) Ketu: 1993-09-07 (22:56:30) - 1994-01-20 (21:25:30) Venus: 1994-01-20 (21:25:30) - 1995-02-10 (10:14:06) Sun: 1995-02-10 (10:14:06) - 1995-06-06 (02:04:41) Moon: 1995-06-06 (02:04:41) - 1995-12-15 (20:28:59) Mars: 1995-12-15 (20:28:59) - 1996-04-28 (18:58:00) Rahu: 1996-04-28 (18:58:00) - 1997-04-10 (18:29:44) Jupiter: 1997-04-10 (18:29:44) - 1998-02-13 Mercury MD: 1998-02-13 (04:44:37) - 2003-10-14 (21:43:25) Antardasas in this MD: Mercury: 1998-02-13 (04:44:37) - 1998-12-03 (09:44:57) Ketu: 1998-12-03 (09:44:57) - 1999-04-03 (03:20:23) Venus: 1999-04-03 (03:20:23) - 2000-03-13 (02:10:11) Sun: 2000-03-13 (02:10:11) - 2000-06-24 (13:49:07) Moon: 2000-06-24 (13:49:07) - 2000-12-14 (01:14:01) Mars: 2000-12-14 (01:14:01) - 2001-04-13 (18:49:27) Rahu: 2001-04-13 (18:49:27) - 2002-02-18 (05:46:16) Jupiter: 2002-02-18 (05:46:16) - 2002-11-21 (04:50:06) Saturn: 2002-11-21 (04:50:06) - 2003-10-14 (21:43:25) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Narayana, I am glad to know that you have been working serously. You have raised a very serious and good point. I will go through that detailed reply at a later time. Check the Longitude of the Moon in Janma Nakshatra to determine its Longitude in Utpanna and other stars. Then the problem about which Rasi the Nakshatra is in will not arise. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Pingali Vijaya Kumara Lakshmi Narayana Rao <pvklnrao Varaha Mihira Jyotish List <varahamihira > Friday, December 15, 2000 2:34 AM [sri Guru] Lession#8 Vimsottari Dasa and Tribhagi. > Pranam Sanjay, > > I have a doubt regarding lession #8. > > I was trying to calculate visottari for me: > > Birth Data: 7.34 a.m (IST) (5.30 hours ahead of GMT), September 26,1974, > 81E15, 16 N 12 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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