[Jagannath] Ve in the 12th house

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Om Jaya Jaya Jagannatha Namamyaham

Dear Sateesh & Khalsa,

You are mixing up. The method of selection is as follows:-

1. Check if there are planets in Kendra's to Lagna. If so, then the specific

Dasa is called TARA Dasa which is a variation of Vimsottari Dasa, but

commences from the strongest planet in the Kendra. The periods are the same

as Vimsottari as Tara is the wife of Jupiter who is the Guru of vimsottari

dasa (16 = 10+6 or Jup = Sun+Moon).

2. If the kendras are not fully occupied, then check the stronger between

the Lagna and the Moon for initiating the Vimsottari Dasa.

Now in the horoscope of Sateesh, all the four Kendra are occupied. Thus

rule (1) above shall apply. Among the four planets, the Moon is the

strongest and shall furnish the first Dasa. Thus, his first dasa shall be of

the Moon. This is Tara Dasa which is a variation of Vimsottari and is seen

in the charts of Sri Ram et.al.

I think S.Khalsa has understood the point correctly.

Om Tat Sat

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Makara@Starfleet <makara

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Cc: S Khalsa <akath11; <vedic astrology >

Wednesday, December 29, 1999 12:38 AM

[sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Ve in the 12th house

 

 

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Below is the Dialogue that S Khalsa and I started off when he mentioned a

> reference to your " Crux of Vedic Astrology " - the Subject was regarding

> whether to take Vimshottari Dasa from the Moon or from the Lagna (this is

an

> odd case).

>

> SK has provided me with his answer (according to his interpretation of

your

> Book's instruction), and has advised to double-check with you so that we

> both understand it fully.

>

> Please read on -

>

> ======================

>

> [1st Dialogue]

>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Ve in the 12th house

>

>

>

> [sateesh]

>

> I do not know how to determine which is Stronger - is it to be decided

only

> between [Lagna and Moon], or between [Lagna and Moon and Sun]?

>

> I have attached my Rasi and Navamsa - please could you help me by

> determining which is Stronger (Lagna or Moon), and also if you have time

> explain how you reached this Conclusion?

>

> Apr 15,1973

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>

>

> [sK]

>

> Dear Sateesh,

>

> Yes , it is very interesting and revolutionary the ideas Sanjay Rath is

> reporting and expounding. I am getting my information on this from pp.

2--6

> of Crux of Vedic Astrology.

> I am seeing the changes indicated to be illuminating too. The rules

> are very complex in some cases.

>

> In your horoscope, you have Moon in the Lagna. This is a special case

> question to put to Sanjay for a definite answer. My opinion, only, would

be

> as follows:

>

> If there are four planets in kendras from lagna take the strongest of

these

> rather than the Moon as the origination point for Vimshottari dasha.

>

> However, in your horoscope the other three planets in kendra, Mercury,

Rahu

> and Ketu are all in signs of debilitation. Therefore Moon itself is the

> strongest planet.

>

> So take Vimsottari dasas as usual from Moon itself. Let me know if you

> find out more!

>

>

>

>

> [2nd Dialogue]

>

>

> [sateesh]

>

> Dear SK,

>

> You saw something I missed - that Rahu/Ketu/Mercury are ALL Debilitated -

> thereby, the Moon gets the Honour as Starting Point (for Vimshottari

Dasa).

>

> [sK]

>

> But I agree, Sateesh, we have still not solved the original question of

> Lagna OR Moon. The relevant quote from " Crux of... " is on p. 6. :

>

> " For example, if in a chart, planets are present in all quadrants, the

Vim.

> dasa initiated from the Moon star etc. will not yield satisfactory

results.

> The strongest planet in the quadrants furnishes the first dasa. Thus if

the

> Moon is in Margasiras and Rahu, being the strongest planet in a quadrant

> furnishes the first dasa, it is called " Sampat dasa " as Rahu owns the

second

> star from Margasiras. "

>

> In your horoscope, IF Moon is ruled out totally because of the quadrant

> situation, then perhaps it would be Lagna furnishing the starting point

and

> the first dasa would be called Sampat as Lagna is one star beyond Moon and

> the rulership going to Mars the first dasa would be of Mars.

>

> But I would guess dasas would be reckoned from Moon in its own star. This

> then is a Tara dasa sequence, following in the same order as Vimsottari,

but

> each dasa has the names Janma, Sampat, Vipat, Kshema, Pratyak, Sadhana

etc.

> and each of these names refers to a special effect of that dasa.

>

> =======================

>

> Sanjay - please could you settle this question for us with a definite

> answer, according to your Method? Take Vimshottari Starting Point from

> Lagna (27*55, Chitra, Virgo) or from Moon (11*08, Hasta, Virgo)?

>

> Many thanks, and very best regards - Sateesh.

>

>

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